: > [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ggiX0dxr,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-17T22:58:14.889+0000) > > I did read your idea of adding the slow to her E. I didn't comment on it because it's a bad idea. > > Kiting people around and being able to both engage and escape is Akali's thing. She's supposed to be slippery and difficult to catch. The trade-off is that her time to kill is lower than other assassins. She can't insta-kill you unless she's ahead. She needs to take extended trades with multiple rotations to actually get the kill. > > She's just as vulnerable to being CC'd as any other assassin. If you get right in her face, she can't slow you. Her shroud is on a long cooldown. She simply doesn't have enough energy to spam Qs all the way back to her tower. > > Your time to get ahead of Akali is before she builds Gunblade. If you aren't on top when she finishes it, you have lost lane. Start grouping with your team and stop trying to call your jungler in for ganks. All you'll do is feed her double kills. 'This is her thing" is a bad argument to begin with and holds little weight. So is the brilliant idea that you should let Akali take towers unmolested and hope you can zerg down another lane. Moreover, her time to kill is not slower than other assassins at all. With her ult up, which every assassin relies on anyways, she can one rotation any champ that's not a bruiser. With gunblade she doesn't even need to land her E. Her combo is not any more delayed than Katarina's dagger combo, and it does more damage than anything Ekko does. More importantly, her overbearing ability to dictate engagement makes her as much of a scourge in top lane as aatrox mid was, where the toolkit completely abuses champions and unlike ranged champs, she is way more resistant to ganks and is one of the best scaling assassins in the game next to Zed.
> 'This is her thing" is a bad argument to begin with and holds little weight. I agree. > her time to kill is not slower than other assassins at all. It most certainly is. Unless she's ahead already it takes her about 3-6 seconds to 100-0 someone. The reason it takes her so long is because of how much she relies on her passive AAs to get damage on an enemy champion, and because of the way her passive works, she has to literally move away from the enemy champion(or wherever they were when she procced the passive) to get the bonus damage, which takes up a lot of time. > With her ult up, which every assassin relies on anyways, she can one rotation any champ that's not a bruiser. It depends on a lot. If she already has an established lead in lane than yes, otherwise she'll usually need two rotations from of her Q and Passive. Though there are always exceptions. > Her combo is not any more delayed than Katarina's dagger combo, and it does more damage than anything Ekko does. You compare Akali to the AP Assassin with the most delay on their abilities, and then compare both Akali and Kat to arguably one of the weakest AP assassins atm. You're really grasping for straws with this one. > More importantly, her overbearing ability to dictate engagement makes her as much of a scourge in top lane as aatrox mid was, where the toolkit completely abuses champions and unlike ranged champs, she is way more resistant to ganks I agree with this one as well. While she's not as bad as she once was she's still pretty frustrating to go against as a melee toplaner, but that's also a matchup thing. It's not like she counters every champion that goes top, and even if you are in an unfavorable matchup there are still things you can do to win the game. Annoying but not unwinnable. > and is one of the best scaling assassins in the game next to Zed. I wouldn't say she scales well, at least in the way you're putting it. She does better late than most assassins due to her survivability in teamfights which is largely due to her shroud.
PzyXo (EUW)
: You need to remove AP assassins
> [{quoted}](name=PzyXo,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EELFiGUQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-17T11:16:07.450+0000) > > these champions are just cancer and aren't doing assassins's job. Every AD assassin have a bad late game that makes him a free kill. But these fucking kata/akali/diana/sylas are above that. They have a good laning phase, good midgame, getting ez fed, good late game, can be carries, oneshot tanks... What the fuck is that ? Playing against Akali and killing her over and over than she just oneshot your ass at level 12 ? what the fuck ? fix your goddamn game. I can't really speak for the others, but I can at least give my insight on Akali. She's a bit frustrating sure but it's not like she doesn't have counterplay. I personally find AD assassins to be more frustrating, but that's just how it is, different players like and dislike different things. > a good laning phase Her pre 6 is ok, she can fight most melee's at lvl 3, but struggles against certain mages. If you have good positioning as a mage(like lux or xerath) Akali shouldn't be able to get you, especially if you have barrier/exhaust, so she'll have to roam to snowball. > good midgame She has a great midgame if she manages to get a kill or two in laning phase, and it's not bad if she doesn't. This is where Akali's strongest, right after finishing gunblade. > good late game Definitely doesn't. Her lategame is alright if the enemy team doesn't know how to focus her in teamfights. It's good for an assassin, but no assassin wants to make it to late. If the game doesn't close by end of midgame she's gonna have a much harder time contributing. > oneshot tanks This is when I lose you. Like, she _can_ oneshot tanks, but only when: A. Akali is really ahead B. The tank is really behind C. Neither A, nor B is the case, but the tank isn't building properly and doesn't respect the Akali's damage. In normal circumstances Akali shouldn't ever be able to oneshot a tank. > Playing against Akali and killing her over and over than she just oneshot your ass at level 12 ? Just because she's behind doesn't mean she won't be able to assassinate you if given the chance. It's literally her only job as an assassin. As a squishy even when the Akali's behind you still have to respect her damage and keep good positioning, otherwise you die.
: because riot fucked the ranked system this season ):
People say they fuck the ranked system every season though.
Alissian (NA)
: Project Akali chromas still bugged
enshine (NA)
: ok since akali doesn't get true stealth anymore
The blink was clunky af, sure it made the veigar matchup bearable, but overall I prefer her W without it. Her current W is pretty much the same as it was pre 6.22, when ricklessabandon fucked her kit up, except it was smaller and wasn't a donut. Also, if there's one thing current Akali definitely doesn't need, it's more mobility, she's already one of the most mobile Champions in the game.
Barkley (NA)
: Nah. It'll be Victorious Aatrox/Sejuani/Irelia/Sivir/Yuumi/Sona Its based on pro play, because that's all Riot cares about.
: i perma ban {{champion:122}} fuck that champ unless i play {{champion:105}} , then i can outplay him hard
: Riot, Why are you removing champs that can go AP or AD
What? If anything AD Akali is much stronger after her rework. I personally prefer her AP build but a lot of Akali mains have had success with her AD/Bruiser builds, her rework has given her a lot of build diversity.
: Bring back game mode rotation, this team fight tactics isnt cutting it. Urf is better than tft.
'AR'URF is most definitely not better.
DGËN (NA)
: Huh thx for the advice but I thought event prestige skins wouldn't show up in the prestige shop?
> [{quoted}](name=DGËN,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vsrEvtbA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-06T14:10:34.318+0000) > > Huh thx for the advice but I thought event prestige skins wouldn't show up in the prestige shop? They don't
: I can't believe you're getting rid of the old cursor
Nekorus (NA)
: honestly i think {{champion:15}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:16}} are hotter than {{champion:84}} but hey thats just my opinion. Also i think im about to die because of how long it took me to get to the comment section.
> [{quoted}](name=Nekorus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7u1F2U0W,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-29T00:32:42.843+0000) > > honestly i think {{champion:15}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:16}} are hotter than {{champion:84}} but hey thats just my opinion. Also i think im about to die because of how long it took me to get to the comment section. Qiyana's hairdo legitimately bothers me. It's like her hairdresser put a dead rat on her head. Soraka's goat legs and her being purple are also a pretty big hurtle for me to get over but the rest are fine.
: Akali Bug That Caused Me To Die Multiple Times
Now I could be wrong I'm pretty sure that's happening due to the 8.24b changes. Because of those changes, before obscurity was removed Akali would be "revealed" briefly and would have a white silhouette, but since obscurity is gone now she's straight up revealed.
: How big should your champion pool be for ranked?
Have at least one champion you're comfortable with in each role, in case you're autofilled, but have a focus on one or two champions and get really good with them. Tbh I just one trick Akali in ranked, not that I've really played much ranked this season.
: What runes do you think are the best for akali?
I go Precision with Domination second, Conqueror into tanks, Fleet into pretty much everything else, but especially into poke.
huhndog (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Prestige AkaIi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fimzPqdj,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T10:55:40.830+0000) > > Not as good as Akali or Irelia tho. She also has about the same popularity as Akali, Akali's is 8.4%, while Diana is 8.1%. Gotta take that with a grain of salt since you are talking about your main...
> [{quoted}](name=huhndog,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fimzPqdj,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T11:15:27.141+0000) > > Gotta take that with a grain of salt since you are talking about your main... I guess... I don't like that I'm automatically biased because I'm talking about a champion I'm familiar with. Don't get me wrong, I am happy Akali is getting another skin, but objectively I believe she has earned a hell of a lot of money with her rework and new/updated skins that came with it, which is why she got the skin over a champion like Diana, or Talon. I'm not sure with Irelia, but just think about it a little, Akali has gotten incredible skin sales since her rework, especially with all the attention she got with her KDA + Prestige KDA skins. Not even including how much promotion POP/STARS gave league and the skins, that video was everywhere with almost 245 million views. Of course, this is mostly conjecture due to the fact that Riot hasn't publicly released their earnings for individual skins, so it's not like we can prove it, and I didn't really start this thread to get into a "he said she said" sort of thing. The popularity I'm mentioning is how often she is played in league of legends not how well advertised she is, otherwise Akali would likely win by a landslide due to the KDA video. The stats I used in my previous comment were taken from a fairly reliable site. Although they are changing pretty rapidly due to the new patch, and the fact that since Akali has changes she'll probably be played by more people. As I'm writing this she has a 10.6% popularity and Diana has 9.0%. [Feel free to check yourself.](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com) Diana wouldn't have been a bad choice for the skin, but strictly for profits Akali (and probably Irelia) make more sense to Riot.
: > [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JhfEIQBg,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-17T06:39:39.164+0000) > > Here's everything I don't like about this thread: > 2) You seem to not understand why assassins have lower cds and mobility in comparison to mages. Assassins are normally *melee* champs. Without gap closers Tell me 1 assassin that doesn't have a gap closer
> Assassins are normally melee champs. Without gap closers, they wouldn't be able to do their job of quickly descending on targets and bursting them. Lol he wasn't saying they don't have gap closers, you misunderstood.
huhndog (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fimzPqdj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-16T21:13:09.748+0000) > > Riot only does what makes sense as a business, and Akali and Irelia are more profitable than Diana. It is sadly the world we live in now. actually diana has pretty good skin sales for not being that popular of a champion!
> [{quoted}](name=huhndog,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fimzPqdj,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-17T01:11:30.525+0000) > > actually diana has pretty good skin sales for not being that popular of a champion! Not as good as Akali or Irelia tho. She also has about the same popularity as Akali, Akali's is 8.4%, while Diana is 8.1%.
: Who's Your Current Perma-Ban (If You Have One)?
It's always either {{champion:90}} or {{champion:25}} for me. {{champion:90}} since after his rework in the MSMU and {{champion:25}} since forever, really annoying kits.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Why isn't the design team being held responsible for this game's state?
I'm just hoping the Akali changes that Repertoir is working on help move her into a more balanceable state. I'm so sick of having her soloqueue viability nerfed because of how oppressive she is in proplay. I'm also hoping the changes push her into being more of an assassin, like she's supposed to be, rather than having more of a skirmisher's playstyle.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: same garbage thread
Honestly... Like I know she isn't in a balanced state, but some of these threads are ridiculous.
: AKaLi Is BaLaNcEd Durrrr 41% wR
> instantly murders tahm and Nocturne with 1 rotation+Tiamats. Stopped reading.
Leon4167 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Prestige AkaIi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e71Ek77o,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-25T19:34:31.906+0000) > > I'm not saying the nerf wasn't justified or whatever, I'm not getting into it because she's getting pretty significant changes in a patch or two anyway, so it doesn't matter. > > However, saying she's the Assassin that snowballs the strongest in the game is simply untrue, in every ELO except GM+ almost every assassin can snowball easier than Akali can. She is incredibly safe when played well, but she can't one shot tanks, even if she's fed. Obviously there are exceptions, but if the tank knows what theyre doing she won't "oneshot" but she can duel them pretty well, as she has a lot of consistent damage. Before MSI Akali was ripping apart Vlad in matches left and right. I know you said except elos GM+ but that's where the balancing should be concern on. If the best are struggling against her then she needs to be nerfed. Though I do agree that nerfing her passive is stupid she performs way too well at the highest elo and I understand the thought of nerfing her just not her passive or at least not by this much.
I had to reread your comment as most of it has nothing to do with what I said and I was confused with why you were replying to me specifically, but I'll do my best to reply well anyway. Vlad vs. Akali is a skill matchup, better player wins, even now. That grandmaster+ comment wasn't about balancing, it was about her snowball potential. Outside of grandmaster+, where Akali is truly strong, she doesn't snowball as easily when compared to other assassins. I'm not exaggerating when I say that every assassin is easier than Akali right now, except maybe Kat, still talking about below grandmaster btw. As I stated at the beginning of my comment, I never really wanted to get into whether she deserved to be nerfed or not, but since you brought it up: Imo they needed to bridge the incredible gap between her being so problematic in high elo, while being really bad in solo queue, not simply buff or nerf her. Which is what they are trying to do with the upcoming changes, which is great. Again I never said anything about nerfing her passive, I'm pretty impartial to the change. I believe they nerfed her passive the deal with how she's a better skirmisher than an assassin, but they nerfed her skirmisher half without buffing her assassin half, making her just not great at either. Looking forward to these changes, hopefully they push her into being a balanceable assassin instead of an unbalanceable skirmisher.
Xavanic (NA)
: She is the most snowbally assassin in teh game rn, and her top lane is actually too strong, since most top lane champs rely on aa's she can avoid a large amount of their dmg with just shroud and get fed, once she's fed it doesn't matter how tanky you are, she WILL one shot you
I'm not saying the nerf wasn't justified or whatever, I'm not getting into it because she's getting pretty significant changes in a patch or two anyway, so it doesn't matter. However, saying she's the Assassin that snowballs the strongest in the game is simply untrue, in every ELO except GM+ almost every assassin can snowball easier than Akali can. She is incredibly safe when played well, but she can't one shot tanks, even if she's fed. Obviously there are exceptions, but if the tank knows what theyre doing she won't "oneshot" but she can duel them pretty well, as she has a lot of consistent damage. TLDR: Other than the fact that she can avoid a good deal of damage, most of what you said is wrong.
: I'm done!
Laura Bailey is overrated.
Knelliel (NA)
: Blood Moon Akali Discussion
You don't have to like it, but saying it's low quality compared to the generic, overdone current bloodmoon skinline is a bit much. Plus keep in mind it's a 975rp skin, not a 1350rp skin, it's quite high quality for what you pay imo.
: > [{quoted}](name=Calibur66,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Fd86kj5r,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-13T00:07:20.904+0000) > > Jesus, she doesn't need reverting, Riot just need to get over their "Every champ needs to have something completely unique" thing and get rid of her true stealth. > > As soon as they just admit its a nightmare trying to balance her when she has true stealth on her shroud, they can return it to normal stealth or something in between and give her her back all the power they just keep taking and taking so they don't have to nerf the shroud. > > Do not, for the love of god, revert her to that mess because she is incredibly fun to play, pretty much everyone agrees that everything about her now is better, except for the ridiculous issues with trying to balance around a champ that has true stealth. > > Nerf the shroud, give her damn damage back. her shroud was awesome season 8 this new shroud is straight garbage. no real escape potential like there was before her rework.
> [{quoted}](name=DevilSlayerGray,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Fd86kj5r,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-13T03:18:11.290+0000) > > her shroud was awesome season 8 this new shroud is straight garbage. no real escape potential like there was before her rework. Now I'm not saying I don't want a revert, but her shroud in s8, or specifically post patch 6.22, felt really clunky and I personally hated it, and I know I wasn't the only one. Like it or not the current shroud is more like pre - patch 6.22 and therefor more true to old Akali than the second iteration of shroud. I never liked that clunky blink on that shroud, revert to pre - patch 6.22 or I don't want it.
: Unpopular opinion on Akali
She needs another Aatrox sized rework. Doesn't really matter to me how she ends up I'll just keep playing her I guess.
: Odyssey: Extraction and Star Guardian Invasion need to come back
> These two modes were the most _boring _ things Riot has ever made. ftfy Odyssey just became a fight in champ select between people getting missions, it was a nightmare. I hated that you had a choice between 5 champs, none of which I enjoy playing personally. PvE is just boring in general though. I don't even remember anything engaging in the star guardians gamemode so I can't really get into the specifics about that. I'm not saying don't bring them back because tons of people enjoyed them, I'm just saying please don't attach missions to them so I don't have to play them, because I, myself, did not. At all.
: FOR THE AKALI FANS
Unfortunately it doesn't seem like they're going to re-release the Prestige Skins, they addressed this in this [Ask Riot article](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/04/ask-riot-next-chroma-sale/). "Other than the loot system, we don’t currently have any plans to bring back retired Prestige skins."
: Can the Prestige Kai'sa skin/ Akali ever come back besides being in hextech?
They have already answered your question on an [Ask Riot article](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/04/ask-riot-next-chroma-sale/). "Other than the loot system, we don’t currently have any plans to bring back retired Prestige skins."
Syrile (NA)
: Ehh. Akali is still pretty toxic, to be fair. However, you will get lots of hate for stating the truth.
Syrile (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Galiö,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PJk4iKaY,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-22T02:30:25.341+0000) > > And she would atkeats take a hit or 2 from a turret if she bothered to attack you under turret. Vlad doesn't take any of the damage :p Not if you knew how to time it. And Vlad could not break his untargetability and then go back into it after he attacked, repeatedly, and then escape easily without taking any damage after hitting you in the face for 7 seconds.
Taking turret shots was unavoidable if the Akali was under turret and wanted to deal damage to an enemy. She had to reveal herself to do damage, and her shroud didn't cancel turret shots after they'd already targeted her, timing had nothing to do with it.
FkValeRly (EUW)
: true, akali is fucking disgusting
: What champs do you actually find fun anymore?
I've been really only playing {{champion:84}} & {{champion:18}}, both of which I enjoy a lot. I've only semi recently picked up ADC Tristana, I used to play AP Tristana back when it was decent, and I've just always been playing Akali since I started league. She was the first champ I bought back in 2014 and I've been maining her since.
huhndog (NA)
: I just wish taliyah's q could have aoe again ;-;
: Those are stats. Doesn't classify her as a main support. It's still true, and still the case. She was created as a mid lane mage. Still is one. Again, only going bot because the meta has pushed her there for the time being- too many high mobility overpowered assassins right now.
Zyra was a midlaner until the meta shifted her to support, same with morgana. Blitzcrank was originally designed as a midlaner as well. Thresh was originally designed as a toplaner. Lux may have been a midlaner, and still doesn't fit the support role imo, but I just wanted to point out that it isn't uncommon at all for champs designed for other roles to be pushed support. Just because she was designed as a midlaner doesn't mean she isn't considered a support now, like so many other champs before her.
: Wait...Why does Akali still have a grace period when leaving her shroud?
CLG ear (NA)
: Can they make a Chroma of regular Akali skin where she doesn't have tattoos
> Cuz the tattoos are ugly Get with the times old man D:< jk I just want a red chroma for base Akali, so I can have crimson Akali back ;n;
: me banning Akali every game
Literally had a b2 Zed main on my team ban my Akali and run it down my lane simply because I'm an Akali main yesterday, felt real bad. I can respect not liking a champ and banning them because of that alone, but don't be like that zed main.
: > [{quoted}](name=VoraciousX,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0e4VaUfJ,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-11T07:34:59.963+0000) > > New Akali is fine, old Akali was overpowered and only required a 75 or 50g item for her entire enemy team to counter her BEFORE 6.22. That wasn't really counterplay. It was an item completely removing the champion from the game. New Akali is both better for the game(she has more counterplay) and more fun(she doesn't just mindlessly use point and click damage to one shot you). I don't understand why people want to revert her. It makes no sense to me. As for people wanting to revert Irelia, I see that as salty players being mad because they don't have an ability that turns entire 1v1s in their favor whether you engage on her or she engages on you. New Irelia is pretty similar to old Irelia, but she has a better ultimate, and an actual stun with counterplay. Btw Pink Wards don't exist anymore, and stealth consists of two different types. Types you can see with Control Wards(the new pink ward basically, that form of stealth is called camouflage, and is used for engage type stealth that lasts longer and is used out of combat mainly like Twitch Q, Eve's passive, etc) and stealth you CAN'T see with control wards(in combat stealth with shorter durations and mainly used to drop aggro etc, like Vayne's ultimate, Akali's W, etc). Old Akali didn't have counterplay on a LOT of her kit. You just were forced to take her damage if you got anywhere near her. New Akali has plenty of it. Same for Irelia. Old Irelia didn't have a lot of counterplay, new Irelia does. > > Btw that wasn't a rework on Akali herself, that was a rework on STEALTH that affected Akali. They also gave her a bit of love in the form of making her shroud a dash. Old akali was a noob stomper. Nowhere near op. Pink ward+stun/snare and she couldn't do crap in teamfights. She was good for smurfing in like bronze to get 40 kills. Her laning phase was shit, she had super bad early game.
> [{quoted}](name=Heko The Man,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0e4VaUfJ,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-11T07:45:37.761+0000) > > Old akali was a noob stomper. Nowhere near op. Pink ward+stun/snare and she couldn't do crap in teamfights. She was good for smurfing in like bronze to get 40 kills. Her laning phase was shit, she had super bad early game. Old Akali was OP in low elo, while the new Akali is OP in high elo/pro-play. I loved the old Akali, and I love the new Akali, but they both have problems, especially when it comes to balancing their kits. I'd say the new Akali is overall healthier with a fair amount of counterplay. The old Akali was a more stat-check, linear design, whereas new Akali probably has too many ways to outplay her opponents if she plays well. Outside of Diamond+ I wouldn't say she's OP.
Hinode (NA)
: [GAMEPLAY] Akali shroud not working properly, showing up all over the map
I think it tends to happen when your OS/Graphics Driver needs to be updated. My friend had this happen to him, it was fixed after he updated his PC.
: > [{quoted}](name=VolatileAkali,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ou8htRvr,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-24T17:55:40.257+0000) > > High risk means she is gated to get her reward. > > Kayn is gated by his passive but when he gets shadow assassin. He has an amazing movement speed buff and amazing mobility (E). WQ combo + dusk to ult is the fastest assassin combo I had ever seen to kill a carry. He isn't that risky unless you go in and kill the adc but he goes deep in his team. > > Katarina is definitely risky but no where near Akali. Katarina assassination pattern is consistent and quick. I'd say she is about medium to high risk. Also she can kill one or more than one easily since her all of her abilities is AoE, beside E. Resets grant her more options to escape, re-position or continue to slaughter them. > > She is definitely not high risk, she has too much safety shit in her kit and good to shit that she isn't that risky. > > Talon... HAHAHAHA. Please don't make me laugh. > > Because unlike other champions, she is one of the oldest champion to have a heal and all of these years. Old Akali mains played her for her heal + triple dash resets. Your stupid to think Akali can scale into the late game. She falls so hard that people even joke about her falling harder than Pantheon in season 2. I have played every major iteration of Akali, this iteration is definitely the most slap on the face iteration ever. All those assassins require snowballs. Have you ever seen a lb who isn’t atleast 2000gold ahead. It’s fucking sad. And yeah. Akali doesn’t scale now, because she doesn’t Heal for her entire hp bar ever second. And again. Kayn is risky because he is the actual weakest champion in the game until he transforms. Also he has probably the most counterplay of any assassin. Walk towards him and his damage is cut nearly in half.
Akali needs to snowball too, every assassin does. If Akali doesn't snowball then she basically needs to build bruiser or she will be terrible late. > Akali doesn’t scale now, because she doesn’t Heal for her entire hp bar ever second. She never scaled well, even with the heal, her having a heal doesn't mean she scaled well... nor did she heal for her "entire healthbar," at least not since her rework. > And again. Kayn is risky because he is the actual weakest champion in the game until he transforms. just lol I can tell you play Kayn with all this bias.
: > [{quoted}](name=VolatileAkali,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ou8htRvr,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-24T17:09:15.087+0000) > > Every assassin in the game is low to medium risk and high reward. Akali is THE highest risk and somewhat rewarding assassin. So stop bull shitting. Kayn is high risk (shit early) Katarina is high risk (requires snowball) Leblanc is high risk (requires snowball) Talon is high risk (requires snowball) What does akali risk with her heal? She got a free lane so she just gets to scale to the end of the earth. It’s not like she falls off.
> She got a free lane so she just gets to scale to the end of the earth. It’s not like she falls off. I was with you until you said this. She falls off fucking hard if she doesn't snowball and end the game before 30 minutes. I agree the heal doesn't make sense in her current kit, yes it was part of her identity, but she was far too safe with it, but you can't pretend that she has a great late game. She has a lot of ways to delay a fight late, but she does not scale well, she needs to play around her team because she can't do much on her own late. (This isn't me saying I'm happy with them removing her heal, I still think it was a part of her identity and it's upsetting that it got removed. I am saying that it was too strong coupled with her shroud at the time.)
: Riot should be more careful with reworks.
I've been playing Akali since s4 and I love the new Akali thank you very much.
: Look RiotGame, Math is my worst Subject in School
Akali is an early to mid game champion, like most assassins, her goal is to snowball out of laning phase. Tbh **old **Akali had a better late game than current Akali, current Akali if she goes even in lane tends to fall off around 30 min.
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: > [{quoted}](name=VolatileAkali,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qhe3Qczu,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-17T13:03:55.024+0000) > > If she is against you at top. Get a tank, and if she is going AD bruiser and her team is mixed damage. Go your normal build. Get bone plating and camp her ass with your jungler. Camp a champion with 5 escapes XD which barely falls off
Unless she snowballs she falls off pretty damn hard tbh, and even when she snowballs it's just a matter of time. She has a better lategame as AD Bruiser, but if you're playing AP assassin she has a pretty lackluster lategame.
: I mean Riot basically forced Irelia to stay top when they butchered her W so I don’t see why Akali should be allowed to be top (when she was intended from the get go to be a midnlaner)
I wouldn't say she's "allowed" to be top, as that's the only lane atm where she can actually function. She was intended to be a midlaner, but then all the complaining about her got her nerfed, and they took away all of the sustain that allowed her to survive midlane. Toplane was always the better lane for Akali pre rework as well, which is why one of their goals with the rework was to skew her towards midlane more, obviously that didn't end up going well. I don't think they ever intended to prevent her from playing top though, so even if she was a better midlaner you'd still likely see the occasional top Akali. She'll need some pretty major tweaks, maybe even a mini-rework, to be able to play midlane well again, and I don't think Riot knows what they want to do with her yet, so for now I think she's staying primarily top. (unless they want to give her some form of sustain again, and revert the 8.24b shroud nerfs which really never should have happened if they had removed obscure from the beginning.)
: Buff AP assassin Akali
Her nerfs on patch 8.24b need to be reverted imo. That's all I want.
: "we can't smash our faces and heal like a soraka anymore, rework bad" Akali mains shouldn't be taken seriously
Pls don't lump us all with him :/
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