: Why are they removing annie from the game
: With new garen GU, Yi's dueling lackluster, Make guinsoo melee and buffed... List of problems oflol
From my experience it seems that adc's were better off with crit and attack speed. So why do they need guinsoos? Needs to be melee only like it was intended to be. It is with the sated devourer effect and that was for junglers who farmed for 20 minutes or more for stacks. Its annoying that any ranged character can pick one up and one shot people.
Rioter Comments
: Oh i forgot mf. one of the worst ones tbh. thanks babe <3
Just play a tank i was mf ulted past game not gonna say it hurt at all cause i ran in it with my mundo r xD
: draven, jhin, kaisa, ezreal, and caitlyn one shot you.
I also 1v1 jhin in front of thresh and i did more damage than him. lvl 12 jhin
: draven, jhin, kaisa, ezreal, and caitlyn one shot you.
fought a jhin and i was mundo he did 0 dmg and i took his turret in front of him while running in circles to bait 3 enemies to chase me around while my team is getting baron. Yea just pick some tank with good defence/damage and you are strong against most burst but keep in mind irelia and yi aren't burst or just ad buyers so watch out. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
koshkyra (NA)
: 95% of the things wrong with the game right now are just symptoms of the insane damage.
Or you can choose a tank and cs properly and not get 'one shot' {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} This meta doesn't exist because damage was actually lowered(electrocute 220-180 lost 10% scaling, scorch 30-60 to 10-30, sudden impact nerfed, duskblade nerfed from 350 to 30-150 compensation: take wards easier and 3 lethality, new armor shards) The problem with the game is these reworks that shouldn't be existing like irelia, warwick, galio, Yorick, ryze, and all skirmishers and (divers) that can duel or oneshot defensive people) neeko and lux aren't a problem so is zoe cause u can easily build tank and they do no dmg but those i mentioned are the reason for this 'damage meta ' and i agree there is a lot of lethality items but armor negates it so nerfing duskblade that hard is bad game design for noob enhancing.....
Rioter Comments
: For Riot Gameplay team: Lux needs a rework her damage is 'too much' for a support(also ahri, lulu)
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/6f/Miyuki_Mitsuhashi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180914193158 this is lux's designer, her only champs released are lux and pantheon 2 cancer champs. She quit riot just after releasing lux.
Terozu (NA)
: Yi really has basically 0 personality actually.
Wrong again. It was his personality that is why i mained him. The voices of Yi taunts and everything is legit..... But we have these champs that do some lap dance for dance(lux) a manly man will want some of that lap dance not be the lap dancer himself which is why i think all male lux players are just mental in the head.
: Are you nutz or something or are you trying to kill the game lux isn't hard to fight in lane just cause u can't fight her and those other champions doesn't mean for roit to nerf them lux is one of the easiest caster champions to fight with in supp and mid lane it's about how u deal with her she doesn't have alot of dmg in her kit to begin with first of all only if u dodge it it'd just about dodging her ablities you crying to roit to nerf underatted champions that is very selfish this is why the adcs got nerf cause players like you don't know what is balance and what's not think what to do in game and study the champion before you type this in the board I don't main these champions but I hate to see players stop playing them cause your spoil
Look Brand has some counterplay his stun isn't that long so i have time to escape ahri uses wqr but with defensive tools i shouldn't be one shot as well against ahri but lux she can Q and then e r and do nearly 60% of my hp regardless if i have significant MR or not. She will always be able to extend her cancerous combo with her passive.
: > [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rH26LswB,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-26T23:08:51.969+0000) > > She was released as a caster with an emphasis on supporting her teammates, actually. > > As in her designer stated that verbatim &quot;Lux is a caster champion with a support emphasis&quot;. > > She was also a light version of Morgana, and her abilities are designed for a duo lane. Hence the AOE shield, the double snare meant for 2 enemy champs and the aoe slow. The ultimate was a way to pick off escaping enemies her laning partner couldnt catch. > > Again her designer said, &quot;She is similar to Morgana in playstyle, although her focus is on her control and support aspects. > > It takes so little time to just go look at her spotlight. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJB6JWDESWU > > Please, check your own info. They're unranked level 30 new player Yi spammer so the trash noob salt is strong
And what do you spam Katarina or something? Don't you ever just play certain champs for fun and that they have an interesting lore and personality(Yi is a master swordsman)
Gra4iX (EUW)
: Says the Level 30, which never played Rank or have knowledge of the game... its so cringy to read this and sad that you took the time to write this instead of training. To counter a Champ you have to learn them. You have to know when they have no Skills up, like iam an Adc and see Lux has no Q so i engage and Kill her in 2-4 seconds before her Q is up again. And you definetly didnt learn anything... sorry for some wrong words i just woke up and read this in my feed. Greetings from Germany... With other words stop complain, learn the game or let it be. There are also much videos that help to understand whats going on in the Rift. I also dont like every Champ but i dont care cause i know how to kill them :) {{champion:103}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:145}}
: Git gud. That post is freaking trash. You been playing for what? 2 seasons? Get lost.
: Stand behind minions and you've completed countered lux's snare. Just because you can't dodge a combo doesn't mean it's broken. Stop crying and adapt. Don't blame your losses on broken champions and look at what you're doing wrong. I detest crybabies.
Smart lux players don't immediately Q they wait for me to walk around them knowing i have flash/alpha strike or something. So they harrass with e and r or ignite then when i don't feel like dying to wait for her Q. I do it then i'm snared anyways at point blank range.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kaiyaan Dior,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rH26LswB,comment-id=0021,timestamp=2018-12-26T21:09:30.426+0000) > > Ok so I&#x27;m a support main who plays casually but there is a reason why some the champions which are mentioned are almost never seen in high elo game play or competitive at the support role. I myself am no where near that level of high elo. But its easy to see in some games. In lower level games a brand v thresh match can be won by either side, but in higher elos a large portion of the time the win goes to the thresh due to other people&#x27;s comments when they mentioned knowing skill cool down timers for different champions and the fact that you mentioned Lux as the main focus of the article but she has no mobility what so ever and is easily punished by champions like a Thresh and others with alot of cc. I never used to try and remember cooldowns and got my ass kicked because of it but saying their is no counter play isn&#x27;t really true. Also I&#x27;m kind of curious as to what champions you pick into these high-ish damage range supports. I checked their opgg nonstop Master Yi very INTeresting level 30 unranked duo queues with a friend thats gold+ plays vs unranked low mid gold/plat, I legit lost braincells looking at their opgg, I actually wanna gtfo my house for once. Kappa
: Melee champs need buffs, if ya wont nerf lux make melee have an advantage over ranged so its fair
one thing is good when you get hit with a ranged aa it gives you movement speed and tenacity if you melee
Rioter Comments
: Lux is literally used as a model for 2 champion releases... Riots lack of creativity or prank??
I mean before i could just feel good on banning lux and ahri but now its impossible cause Zoe, and Neeko are 2 more that play exactly the same way and are safe but do 999999999999 damage on melee champs.
Rioter Comments
: For Riot Gameplay team: Lux needs a rework her damage is 'too much' for a support(also ahri, lulu)
Its funny how the last 3 mages I mention are following lux playstyle clones. Zoe: CC thats dumb then has this burst lux: throws Q that also CC in a line then bursts Neeko:'throws' loop that roots then bursts Does Riot have any creativity at all? Or do they just want make melee champion lane like hell so much? Now do you wanna buy lux skins??
: what if they nerf ludens and gunblade? Also what if they nerf void staff and rabaddons also make zhonyas nerfed(seekers no armor more ap and less stasis) also morrello changed to low hp again and nerfed now if riot wanted to make this game more healthy they wouldn't nerf every assassin ad item they would nerf zoe items.
but because the above is not happening now i am abusing AP items in this season :) I mean i won with ap master yi with highest damage while one shotting TF thats some wierd stuff considering i have no scaling LUL
: Saying Zed needs buff tells me your mind isn't worth changing.
what if they nerf ludens and gunblade? Also what if they nerf void staff and rabaddons also make zhonyas nerfed(seekers no armor more ap and less stasis) also morrello changed to low hp again and nerfed now if riot wanted to make this game more healthy they wouldn't nerf every assassin ad item they would nerf zoe items.
: For Riot Gameplay team: Lux needs a rework her damage is 'too much' for a support(also ahri, lulu)
UPDATE: well one thing is certain when you gank lux you have some sort of gap closer/flash but the big issue in this case is that her Q has more range than your gap close ability so you will have to walk in a danger zone where you may as well die for trying to gank her. with that in mind i do think she does worse if you have/are a good jungler who will 'camp' her every min. other than that there is nothing stopping her from ruining bot. AND if you camp her every min what about other lanes so you still would lose out.
: > Ahri's kit is too old looking and wierd yet can decimate any one and at the same time dashes infinitely. Giving her charm buffs is not good that champ needs flat out rework. >Also any champ that looks like they do too much easy damage without any downsides needs one. > here is my list > 2. Ahri No. She does not have infinite dashes. She can dash **3 times** with a delay in between. Then her ult is put on a **1:30** second cool down. You get such a long time to abuse that. She doesn't need a rework. Not every champ needs a rework. Advice, play the champion before complaining so you can get a feel of their weaknesses. Don't just come to boards and write a wall of text because you got destroyed by a champion. You just need to get better at this game. >Does damage frequency(low,medium,high,too much) Counterplay Gameplay effectiveness(has tools when behind to do well or not) Ability sequence and what it does also how fast are the abilities AP or AD, Supp mid laner? - Medium. - Yes theres counterplay, dodge her charm, if you can't then bring cleanse. Not that hard. Abuse her 1:30s ult cd. Abuse when she misses charm. - When ahri is behind she has no potential to kill any squishy that's full hp. Go on and play her and see for yourself. She's got cc and that's all she brings to the team. She's not a pure stat check champion. - R-E-Q-W. Fast rotation. - Mid laner. She doesn't need nerfs. Ahri is only strong to you because you don't know how to counter her. After all, we are just playing rock paper scissors in the end. Edit: If you're talking about support ahri then .. god help you.
Damage is one but her kit is kinda old. Her w doesn't do anything meaningful and her q needs more delay since its just a stronger version of ekko Q that heals. E is ok just need that damage amp tuned down. R is ok as long as she can't do it if the enemy deals damage to her(they have to attack you to make it stay still.) thats honestly more better for her cause they can buff it then....
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=PumpPenta,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p79JVM8p,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-19T18:05:33.217+0000) > > Trinity force doesn&#x27;t need more than an ability use and does closely to old dusk damage as much as it procs but duskblade needs you to be unseen to bring it back. > To be honest they should remove the ward utility and the slow(who even notices this) then bring its damage back. The difference between duskblade and triforce is that triforce is 3700+ gold. While duskblade is 2900. And that’s a HUGE difference. Also you have to actively use triforce to justify buying it, where as duskblade is just a passive damage boost you don’t think about.
i wouldn't mind buying a 3700 gold duskblade that is powerful thats what it needs a gold cost increase but more power less ward junk
: > [{quoted}](name=Sewer Side,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p79JVM8p,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-12-19T02:31:46.730+0000) > > What items are big brained? Duskblade Stormrazor Black cleaver Ludens echo.
Trinity force doesn't need more than an ability use and does closely to old dusk damage as much as it procs but duskblade needs you to be unseen to bring it back. To be honest they should remove the ward utility and the slow(who even notices this) then bring its damage back.
Rioter Comments
: @Riot: What's with you & your fetish to constantly give Lux's ult cooldown refund buffs?
https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2934218681/230359722?tab=overview
: List of champions that should not exist
There just champs that have oppressive kits in one way or another. You forgot rengar XD
: Jinx
Hahahaha no man its not that meta because i got past lvl 6 without problems in my lane and then snow balled after getting a good gank in(this is on LAN)
: Um no. This item is braindead enough.
But here is a match you played in that shows how it could need more damage https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2932512416/223291330?tab=overview
Rioter Comments
: heimer is a blatant problem and only trolls will defend him.
Rioter Comments
: U have really weird thinking process How is having all pointclick abilities and having no counterplay fun? and calling champions with skillshots that u can dodge/flash away cancerous? Its like completely opposite
Skillshots are the reason i don't main xerath/TF anymore its just unwanted and if you could dodge an ult you pretty much erased his initiation and ect Itemization is good against easier champs but against skillshot champs you can not only itemize against them but dodge the said skillshots as much as you like so again its cancer in the sense that you might not even get to do anything in a teamfight if they have a lot of movement.
: So why are skillshots and counterplay bad?
because counterplay should be itemization not the actual ability itself. So people actually have to spend some gold to counter a champ or reduce effectiveness. a lot of skillshot champs have dodgable ults which is pretty nuts if you ask me.
Eedat (NA)
: Uhhh Zed's ult takes .75 second to go off then has another 3 second delay. Shaco revolves around pretty much stacking a shit ton of damage onto a single auto to do like 75%+ of their HP in a single auto from invisibility. He doesn't use his boxes to assassinate people. Fizz waits on his R before doing anything. Talon's burst is much faster than a Zed or Fizz. Kayne has a pretty long delay on his R. Shaco's, Rengar's, and Leblanc's is probably the fasted. Closely behind is Talon and Kha.
The issue with shaco is the early game assassinations he lacks compared to kha'zix or talon. For example at lvl 3 shaco's q is short and he will e and aa a lot but this doesn't mean a kill a lot of the time. Zed doesn't need R to kill usually since his damage is fast enough already. Fizz can still slightly duel without R he just seems to do everything easy while its lached on the enemies. Rengar has only one gap closer compared to kassadin's ult spam at lvl 6.
Andevar (NA)
: Talon bursts faster than almost every champ on this list except Leblanc. The rest are very delayed damage. Ex: Fizz needs to wait for his R. Zed needs to wait for his R to finish. None of these assassins can really 100-0 faster than Talon. If you look up the flower combo for Talon, you’d understand why his combo is the quickest out of all the assassins on this list. I’m not sure about the rest of them, but I’m fairly sure Leblanc should be 1st, Talon 2nd, Kassadin or Kha 3rd, and Zed 4th
Indeed definitely faster than most. updated.
: lol .>{{champion:24}} .> awesome champ choose one Skillshots are way better cuz they have counterplay and u can dodge them not like pointclick abilities
well, if i'm serious about it, i can constantly one shot luxes with ap jax ease. and abilites having excessive counterplay is not fun. i rather jax like you mentioned since here check it out: well idk about you but there is no fun in having 4 skillshots. he has all targetted pretty much which means i can pretty much relax and play him aggressively without caring about if enemies will dodge my q or not. sounds like a fun champ doesn't he? he does a lot of burst and is fun. but still skill shot champs are cancer to play if behind jax is not. he is very fun regardless. Q: great gapcloser w: damage E: stun r: tanky mode has passive damage
iiGazeii (NA)
: When a champion is "easy" to play, that gates a lot of their power behind the ease of use. Difficult skillshots on more powerful abilities make champions feel extremely rewarding. The idea that you could continue getting better and improve is really satisfying, compared to hitting the ceiling on a champion because mechanically, they aren't challenging, so all of their skill comes from positioning and game sense. Also, are you seriously calling Pyke a Braum clone?
Pyke idea: hey you know we always hear that assassins like zed love to roam bot and kill the laners so how about we make a support ad assassin YEA! thats great! lets make his ult a big giant death mark. Also how about health becomes damage on him yeah! very supporting indeed! but all in all look at what you speak of, malphite is stronger than darius but darius takes more skill. camille is weaker than jax cause hes easier and more effective. Zoe is a harder version of lux. ect And Yi is easy to play yet he is stronger than most champs in a duel and including yasuo or camile which has harder mechanics.
: You forgot the (infinitely long) delay on Shunpo
Doesn't affect her much but it gets in the way if your trying to escape a point and click ability since he technically has 0.15 seconds to land it.
Rioter Comments
: SEROIUSLY??? You're gutting celerty becuase ADC's are taking it??
Thanks for nerfing lux movement speed i guess! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Rioter Comments
: How can u even talking about toxic champion when u are playing yi and pantheon
> [{quoted}](name=Step Sis Lux,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=enkqLsXi,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-07T16:27:08.942+0000) > > How can u even talking about toxic champion when u are playing yi and pantheon yi glass cannon has counterplay(cc+assassins like zed/ahri) but he is just very fun to play and rewarding but i don't think i can keep someone at their turret as yi for 10 min straight.
: How can u even talking about toxic champion when u are playing yi and pantheon
> [{quoted}](name=Step Sis Lux,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=enkqLsXi,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-07T16:27:08.942+0000) > > How can u even talking about toxic champion when u are playing yi and pantheon They are melee fighters/slayers so similar to how yasuo and fiora works they do well in duels. getting rooted then one shot is not allowing me to aa her or use my abilities. so its not a duel its digustingly broken.
: > [{quoted}](name=PumpPenta,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=enkqLsXi,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-11-07T16:15:53.083+0000) > > her gameplay design is if you get hit by her Q you get one shot. this can happen whether she is 0/4 or 5/0 i have seen it. Sorry but she is unable to do that until lvl 6 and even then she would need to have poked you down somewhat. You dying that much is not lux fault but your own. It is 100% unacceptable to die that much that early against anyone, regardless of who you are using
> [{quoted}](name=ZephyrDrake,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=enkqLsXi,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-11-07T16:25:37.142+0000) > > Sorry but she is unable to do that until lvl 6 and even then she would need to have poked you down somewhat. You dying that much is not lux fault but your own. It is 100% unacceptable to die that much that early against anyone, regardless of who you are using She is that type of champ who can kill a laner all day and not put herself in any danger(well haha she does for a bit standing outside my tower range, but what should i expect from a low elo jungler?)
: nice typical salty player answer that just lost to lux Thats how i see u after this
> [{quoted}](name=Step Sis Lux,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=enkqLsXi,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-07T16:20:51.990+0000) > > nice typical salty player answer that just lost to lux > Thats how i see u after this On top of my puny combo lets just say she used w as well now that's messed up for me isn't it?
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