: Bots everywhere
Because {{champion:53}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:61}} and robot skins are popular in league of legends is my best guess.
: Permabanned
If these are your logs and you didn't have a prior punishment its worth a support ticket. EDIT: Since you submitted a support ticket I'm curious how they will respond. But I could see how the crime scene narration would be disturbing.
: Banned for trying to win.
If I had to guess, you were not banned for being bad/unskilled, but because you insulted your teammates and were negative in chat, which I heard can lead to a ban if you do it consistently enough. And from what I know, the chatlogs you get are only examples of your behavior. You can ask riot for more specifics through a support ticket, as they tend not to respond to posts here.
: Great, I get 14 days banned
Trust me, its hard to tell intent over the internet. How do you know that you were being "trolled"?
: so toxic.
I mean, what do you want to discuss? It doesn't look fun to play with someone who says stuff like this in chat.
Sęraph (NA)
: Riot is refusing to send me logs of something I never did
Because some logs are so bad that they shouldn't be repeated.
: More strict player reforms, and reparations to victims of bad player behaviour
I see tons of problems with this suggestion: 1. It makes things worse for lower ranked players who are there because of their current skill at League. As Djinn said, they will see more toxicity and have more lopsided games through playing with wrongly ranked players through no fault of their own, 2. It encourages toxicity because it grants more tangible feedback and a potential lp boost if people can bait others into toxic behavior and report them for it. 3. Some players would view being demoted as a reward, as they get to stomp lower ranked players. Think about how many people already use smurf accounts or do "bronze to challenger" videos just so that they can be matched with iron/bronze players. Its a bad idea to use a punishment that could be easily viewed as a reward, as it would encourage the behavior and make it more common. 4. When toxicity punishments directly affect matchmaking, you run into a prisoner's island scenario which riot specifically wants to avoid: https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/01/ask-riot-banished-to-prisoners-island/
Ulanopo (NA)
: That would be why Tantram keeps talking about 1 vote being the same as 9.
Its pretty funny how it is counterintuitive.
: Permabanned
I wonder if you were banned for consistently behaving this way. I also know that after a 14 day ban the threshold is a bit lower, even for months afterwards (depends on games played).
: Permabanned
I think it would help to share your chatlogs to put this into context if you want to argue about why you were banned. EDIT: Arcade Lulu beat me to saying that :P
: PLAYING JAYCE ADC GETS YOU BANNED/
I don't think riot's IFS takes champion/role into account when handing out bans, only the text content of your logs. Riot only hands off the text content of what you said in that game when you are reported, nothing more nothing less. And I don't think you were reported because you went Jayce ADC...
: I'm just curious, as a level 100+ account, why are you spamming bot games? That's the only suspicious thing I saw, I could see for an easy first win of the day, but you play many a day.
> [{quoted}](name=SupportPlank,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JgEEEoME,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-10T21:34:07.545+0000) > > I'm just curious, as a level 100+ account, why are you spamming bot games? > That's the only suspicious thing I saw, I could see for an easy first win of the day, but you play many a day. I mean why do you think thats suspicious?
: I was unjustly banned, my states League Of Legends Tournament is in 2 days and im crying please help
I mean from what I could see on stream, I can fully understand why you would get banned for this behavior.
: Toxic player at aram
All I can say is, I find this post and complaint awkward, when riot has a bot working 24/7 that punishes for stuff like this, if you reported him.
: **Something interesting there :** All the people who comment on this post, only discuss and stop on the part 1 where I made a mistake. No comment on part 2, where there is no fault, no error, no flame. There is a certain language of "flame to flame" deafness whereas the flame goes only in one direction. I was just banished because of the auto system, it's a pity you do not recognize it.
> [{quoted}](name=Kuroki Kaze,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=01fo3j5I,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-03-31T20:48:21.181+0000) > > **Something interesting there :** > > All the people who comment on this post, only discuss and stop on the part 1 where I made a mistake. > > No comment on part 2, where there is no fault, no error, no flame. There is a certain language of "flame to flame" deafness whereas the flame goes only in one direction. Maybe because you don't need 2 games of bad behavior to get a ban?
: chat restrict for banter
How do you expect us to believe you when you dodge the issue of providing proof?
NerfTiamat (EUNE)
: Wdym the link doesnt work only i can see it?
> [{quoted}](name=NerfTiamat,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kVpqmoNA,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-03-24T06:14:08.065+0000) > > Wdym the link doesnt work only i can see it? correct.
NerfTiamat (EUNE)
: I was unfairly banned by rito after playing for 5 years and spending 200 euros (not rich nor poor)
This looks like it has timestamps because riot support gave it to you. If you want to show us your original conversation with riot support, posting screenshots is the way to go, as the link doesn't work.
Snow831 (NA)
: Reasonable chat restriction. Good job riot. (Sarcasm)
I mean if someone is already trolling, why add salt to the wound by complaining and agonizing about it to everyone else?
Ultimargo (EUW)
: Facing Neeko top makes me a bad person.
They cannot handle neeko. {{champion:518}}
: Account Suspended, looking for some thoughts
I mean, posting chatlogs will allow us to discuss specifics, but flaming flamers is generally a terrible idea.
Tioym (EUW)
: My First Chat Restriction and it's Unwarranted
When trying to defend their innocence, why do people complain about other "toxic players" and say that they should be banned and they haven't been without any knowledge about their other games? Also, how is your communication *not* childish?
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2Ep6wW5L,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-12T19:32:04.576+0000) > > Okay, fine, that part is fine - which is why I didn’t include it. > > Still doesn’t excuse the other lines that I pointed out - what’s your excuse for those (which are all clearly in violation of the Summoner’s Code)? Me telling Ezreal he's not good at this game is my response to him telling me how bad i am and that I'm iron tier and it's my fault that we're losing the game. me saying I'm not flaming and that I smashed Kayle is in response to them tell me I LOST lane and I suck. Otherwise I wouldn't have said anything to this guy which I didn't until he ran his mouth. me calling him a tool is because he flamed me for not using my ult when I did and flashed my CD. He was just trying to tilt me at that point. me "score shaming" was 3 people on my team blaming me YET AGAIN for the reason that we're losing. Me saying "from the MF you fed" is after Ezreal BLAMING ME YET AGAIN for feeding the MF and I'm telling him no it was not my fault. I was done at that point because I tried to be a team player by asking for help in the beginning of the game and just not flamed. and finally I wanted to FF because it was just a bunch of blaming at that point and i wanted out. How is that wrong?
Im sure the people who flame at you have similar reasons. So who is wrong?
: I really wish the chat would be removed for soloQ and kept for Duo/flex
1. Riot, a few years back, used to effectively perma chat-restrict people, and stopped because people resorted to griefing when they couldn't chat. Why do you believe people who act toxic will not act toxic when chat is removed from the client? 2. There are people who use chat as a means of tactical communication/teaching/discussing/making online friends etc. and don't use it to be toxic. How would they react to having chat removed when they don't use chat irresponsibly in the first place?
: > [{quoted}](name=insomniacjezz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iL1eyEnn,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-04T03:04:19.396+0000) > > Why did you see fit to ban his champion then pick his second choice? Cus it was funny {{champion:36}}
> [{quoted}](name=Yasuo VS Riven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iL1eyEnn,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-04T03:04:45.810+0000) > > Cus it was funny {{champion:36}} If you act like a jerk, don't be surprised when you see more jerks.
: Ten reasons why it's better not to flame back
#11. You are making the flamer's flame feel more justified in their eyes. Don't give them an excuse that you were fully in control over.
MirrorU (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=PurpleYukari,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TtrUNkUt,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-02-24T17:43:41.216+0000) > > I've seen people act toxic in real life. And you want to know what happens to them, they get asked to leave, because they are making it worse and uncomfortable for people around them. Why should virtual spaces be any different? Why do you think the "You can just put on headphones and mute them out or ignore them, so they don't need to be kicked out?" wouldn't work as a defense? I've seen people act toxic in real life and never be asked to leave. See how that works? I can name irrelevant shit too.
> [{quoted}](name=MirrorU,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TtrUNkUt,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-02-24T17:53:13.612+0000) > > I've seen people act toxic in real life and never be asked to leave. See how that works? I can name irrelevant shit too. Yeah I see how that works. Not gonna help you with your account or keeping it.
MirrorU (NA)
: Get rid of punishment system
I've seen people act toxic in real life. And you want to know what happens to them, they get asked to leave, because they are making it worse and uncomfortable for people around them. Why should virtual spaces be any different? Why do you think the "You can just put on headphones and mute them out or ignore them, so they don't need to be kicked out?" wouldn't work as a defense?
: Just wondering if I deserve the chat-restriction?
> [{quoted}](name=BowMaster930,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0hGFM6va,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-22T13:43:10.509+0000) > > I flamed back at the people who were flaming me. > That is why the punishment is deserved, because riot punishes people for flaming their teammates. You were making accusations to other players and report begging to harass them. Also threatening to tilt if others didn't surrender.
rujitra (NA)
: Sure. But I've never done so enough to get punished with a chat restriction. Much less two chat restrictions. Much less a 14 day ban. Much less a permanent ban. The system ignores mild toxicity once in a while. If you're consistently and frequently toxic, however, that's not okay, and that's not normal. And no, the system doesn't care how much you get reported. In fact, I asked Riot once and I'd been reported almost 100 times in my most recent 100 games. I didn't get so much as a chat restriction. Because I hadn't misbehaved.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KZFoVOzv,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-02-22T01:15:55.555+0000) > > And no, the system doesn't care how much you get reported. In fact, I asked Riot once and I'd been reported almost 100 times in my most recent 100 games. I didn't get so much as a chat restriction. Because I hadn't misbehaved. I'm still surprised that you got reported that often in a sample of 100 games.
rujitra (NA)
: Some fun maths.
But trolls are more **visibly** common on your team because enemy team trolls isn't directly visible often if they are on the enemy team, unless they take it to all chat or try to throw the game. Also as trolling is often directed towards teammates and not the enemy team, it doesn't feel as negative when you are on the trolls enemy team. That is why the misconception exists, in spite of rioters and others using logic to show that its **not** the case. The experience is why. Of course, some people who troll will claim the deck is stacked against them, but being a troll yourself changes the chances.
: Anything from the permaban experiment?
Well riot has been silent about it since then so I don't know if they are going to do anything. But from them saying that other previous experiments like this have failed, it seems unlikely.
: What is ban worth about this?
> What is ban worth about this? If you have been banned 18 times, clear communication from Riot about what is banworthy, and have over 50 logs worth of examples, why do you even need to ask this question? You can write an entire guide on how to make ban-worthy communication with how much you've been banned.
: Unbanned?
> [{quoted}](name=AthiestJew,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Adt1rhu8,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-16T17:05:18.938+0000) > > I think all players should deserve a second chance and have their accounts unbanned. It says they will never ever unban players that are toxic but they go against their own rules and unban big names . I have not been banned but i don't think it is fair. What do you guys I think they tried that previously, as they genuinely want to give people second chances. But its demoralizing when most people don't reform with that second chance.
Malphite75 (EUNE)
: Game 1 Pre-Game LoL Sloth: yo fizz LoL Sloth: can ya go top? LoL Sloth: me and my premade want to go bottom In-Game LoL Sloth: simon says LoL Sloth: fucking dogs LoL Sloth: take his blue udyr LoL Sloth: fuck that motherfucker route up LoL Sloth: najebany? LoL Sloth: bo ja tak LoL Sloth: WE ARE THE D LoL Sloth: WE ARE THE D LoL Sloth: WE ARE THE D LoL Sloth: WE ARE THE D LoL Sloth: WE ARE THE D LoL Sloth: WE ARE THE D LoL Sloth: BLITZ LoL Sloth: U FUCKING DOG LoL Sloth: WE ARE THE D LoL Sloth: YOU ARE THE SHITTEREST LoL Sloth: WE ARE THE D U DISGRACEFULL FUCK LoL Sloth: LEAR TO PLAY AND NOT BE BRAINDEAD %%% LoL Sloth: GRABBING LEONA IN LANE XDDDDDD LoL Sloth: BRAINDEAD FUCK LoL Sloth: BLITZ MF %%%%%%S XD LoL Sloth: BLITZ + MF IS GAAAAAAY LoL Sloth: XD? LoL Sloth: XDDDDDD LoL Sloth: THATS A SPICY ONE LoL Sloth: EZ Post-Game LoL Sloth: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD LoL Sloth: EASY GAME LoL Sloth: XDDDDDDDDD LoL Sloth: LOSER LoL Sloth: EAT SHIT LoL Sloth: i wish i could honor you udyr xD LoL Sloth: xDDDDDDDD
I would be scared if riot thought this behavior was completely acceptable, tribunal or no tribunal.
: Banns are usless they do not improve the beheavior of ppl, and are super unfair.
No need to stress people out more by typing out their mistakes in front of the whole team, or through using hate speech.
: Another why am I chat restricted thread
You were chat restricted because in the process of trying to fight toxicity, you were retaliating by calling others toxic and blaming. I think the lesson you got from this experience is a good idea.
Lemar (NA)
: I'm a soft inter, AMA
If people did not react to you soft inting, would you still do it?
larlzo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=swastika mann,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=00060000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-04T19:05:50.699+0000) > > It's S8 bronze with almost 300 games.. press X to doubt. but that's not the matter here, the matter is you thinking that you should have some sort of trial because you spent money on esport skins no buying the skin doesnt matter. its that i showed support for riot games. and the content that they offer. and what do you doubt? that this isnt a alt account?
> [{quoted}](name=larlzo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=LAnwEzch,comment-id=000600000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-12-04T19:08:43.327+0000) > > no buying the skin doesnt matter. its that i showed support for riot games. and the content that they offer. and what do you doubt? that this isnt a alt account? Those games don't look supportive for the fans.
: How do I find the chat logs?
> [{quoted}](name=OOgoathamren,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XpQ2uNaO,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-12-02T16:57:39.023+0000) > > How do I find the chat logs? Try logging into the client with your banned account, it should give a popup with your logs. Also, I would recommend removing the summoner name from your post, as Riot doesn't want players to be shamed. If they are violating rules they will be banned.
: Watching Replays on Reports?!
Riot keeps records of all game chatlogs (pre/post/ingame) and timestamps. There even used to be a tribunal system where players could see, in-game chat, timestamps, and # of reports/report reasons. They have access to all replays, and more, such as data on how the client was played with mouse movements/other client information (useful for detecting boosting/scripting/botting). The stats you see on sites like op.gg? As the base data is provided by a Riot api, they have access to all of that information, and more. Rioters have also referenced internal stats and interfaces that presumably help them make decisions on who to ban.
: Mute them then, you cant expect people in a competetive game over the internet to get banned because you are being "harrassed" by being told you're reported.
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcSnipeyz,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Je452Y6c,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2018-11-27T05:47:50.187+0000) > > Mute them then, you cant expect people in a competetive game over the internet to get banned because you are being "harrassed" by being told you're reported. I don't expect that they will be banned, as it isn't up to me. I meant this as a response to the OP, to put some perspective on what he said and most likely why he was punished.
: Can somebody explain the toxicity in this chatlog that i'm perm banned for?
I don't want someone to harass me by telling me that they are reporting me. I don't want to be told what I am doing wrong when I didn't ask for it. And my guess is that there were others in your game who did not appreciate that input.
: Game 1 Pre-Game Theloric966: tough game In-Game Theloric966: im gonna go take his red Theloric966: dw Theloric966: ty dar Theloric966: gg Theloric966: ok? Theloric966: i cant gank if you keep pushing the lane Theloric966: gj bot Theloric966: cd Theloric966: sorry Theloric966: dude wtf Theloric966: chill Theloric966: S4 Theloric966: why? Theloric966: yeah Theloric966: my fault Theloric966: 0/3 because uou cant ward Theloric966: ok? Theloric966: dude youre toxic asf Theloric966: S4 Theloric966: so? Theloric966: dude get a life, seriously Theloric966: thresh and ziggs hella toxic Theloric966: first no drake, you complain Theloric966: then i get drake you complain Theloric966: can you guys please rep thresh and ziggs Theloric966: toxic as fuck Post-Game Theloric966: yeah im silver? so? Theloric966: jesus guys, its a fucking game, can you relax
> [{quoted}](name=Theloric966,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=UoFvpRjV,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-11-17T16:13:26.510+0000) > Theloric966: my fault > Theloric966: 0/3 because uou cant ward > Theloric966: dude youre toxic asf > Theloric966: dude get a life, seriously > Theloric966: thresh and ziggs hella toxic > Theloric966: first no drake, you complain > Theloric966: then i get drake you complain > Theloric966: can you guys please rep thresh and ziggs > Theloric966: toxic as fuck I don't think this was appreciated by the thresh and ziggs.
: > [{quoted}](name=PurpleYukari,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oELdwtdY,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-11-11T08:30:09.541+0000) > > I don't think riot tolerates bronze to challenger, if someone is doing something else illegitimate to demonstrate tihs, such as trolling games or account sharing. Here are some rioters speaking on the topic, and I would be surprised if the stance changed: > > http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4391004&page=1#post46071270 > http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4391004&page=22#post46073826 > > In regards to smurf accounts, I think the system is designed to quickly find the "challenger" players and have them play with others that are high mmr. Riot doesn't ban alternate accounts, and the problem occurs if people try to circumvent the system. Riot are litterally partnering with Bronze to Chall players now days.
> [{quoted}](name=Donstheman,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oELdwtdY,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-11-12T19:13:17.432+0000) > > Riot are litterally partnering with Bronze to Chall players now days. But did these players break the rules? Bronze to challenger doesn't necessarily mean breaking rules, if someone is using a smurf account and then goes into ranked...
: Why is boosting tolerated when streamers do it for views?
I don't think riot tolerates bronze to challenger, if someone is doing something else illegitimate to demonstrate tihs, such as trolling games or account sharing. Here are some rioters speaking on the topic, and I would be surprised if the stance changed: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4391004&page=1#post46071270 http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4391004&page=22#post46073826 In regards to smurf accounts, I think the system is designed to quickly find the "challenger" players and have them play with others that are high mmr. Riot doesn't ban alternate accounts, and the problem occurs if people try to circumvent the system.
PaniczBoski (EUNE)
: I really don't get how u can consider "u toxic" as flaming, lmao. We are not in kindergarden, I got perma banned for calling someone toxic which is obv stating a fact, and other people get perma banned with me *not always* for saying things like *kys* *get cancer* etc. Not fair.
> [{quoted}](name=PaniczBoski,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FXk8y6E8,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-10T22:17:04.585+0000) > > I really don't get how u can consider "u toxic" as flaming, lmao. We are not in kindergarden, I got perma banned for calling someone toxic which is obv stating a fact, and other people get perma banned with me *not always* for saying things like *kys* *get cancer* etc. Not fair. Both irrelevant. True statements can be inflammatory. Worse players don't give you a free pass. Reread the screenshot you provided, as thats the stance on why your punishment will not change.
: Banned by Riot
> [{quoted}](name=Xtremelife4me,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=JQfXPE6G,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-08T06:30:08.624+0000) > > I got banned by talking trash and salty ,toxic riot wish u can get my account back i won't do it again :( Riot has heard that before and tried unbanning accounts. Each time people promise that they won't be toxic if they were unbanned and fail to uphold their promise. Blame the people who were irresponsible for why you most likely won't get the permabanned account back, because its players like these that make these promises seem hollow.
: MMR boosting
I think you guys know what you did wrong if you shared your account...
zafey (NA)
: I see that you often duo with another person. That may be it. It could have been that you lost too many games with that player and people reported you for boosting.
> [{quoted}](name=zafey,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3yaRhNAJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-08T02:45:38.318+0000) > > I see that you often duo with another person. That may be it. It could have been that you lost too many games with that player and people reported you for boosting. Riot doesn't issue penalties for duoing with a specific person often or unintentional loss streaks...
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