Slade25 (NA)
: Everyone is too busy talking about conqueror to notice the actual problem: AP itemization.
tbh the problem is just oblivion orb+sorc shoes honestly, it used to be morellos-liandries-sorcs for most ap mid core but now because they have easy access to early double pen+ morellos is actually really good and cost efficient they spike way harder and quicker
Akumu (NA)
: This entire Preseason is a massive failure.
it has been out for 5 days lol
: To be honest, Stormrazor is just a line of bandaid fixes that they've been making to ADC for well over a season now. If they really just wanted to tone back ADC power in 8.11, that was easily achievable by reverting the buffs that they gave Shiv+RFC. Shiv was part of the huge problem with Marksmen in season 7 because they used *it* as a bandaid fix for ADC2k17lul problem, basically pidgeon holing marksmen into building Shiv in order to be relevant. :/ Even though there are four different zeal items, the default, correct choice is still Shiv, regardless of what's going on in the game. Which is frustrating as there are three other zeal items and, at this point, they could remove the other three and just leave Shiv and everything would be fine. I wish, instead of continuing to bandaid fix the ADC roster like this, they'd actually put time and fucking effort into reworking Zeal items and marksmen itemization into things that would vary every game. Like give the zeal items unique interactions with each other that would change which ones you'd build each game. And give ADCs back ER; the crit based version of ER was literally the best iteration that's ever been in the game and many marksmen relied on it heavily to function properly. For that matter, I wouldn't mind Stormrazor if it actually worked like a normal ADC item should; if it rewarded an ADC for providing consistent DPS in fights rather than rewarding them for waiting to do as much front loaded damage in a single AA. There's a reason that Stormrazor was abused by assassins and its purely because it behaves and acts *more* like an assassin item than it does as an ADC item.
The stuff about shiv is literally not true, rfc is still usually the default choice for the majority of adcs with the exception of some champs (trist=shiv, twtich ashe=runnans)
: Why Do I Even Bother Playing This Game Anymore
if u peaked d1 last season i can see u getting stuck mid-low diamond if ur main sucks but srsly if u cant even get to d5 idk, permaboom mental and tilt i guess
: > [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rWRGB6c3,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-08-18T19:11:49.125+0000) > > Stormrazor should not have been introduced > Essence reaver should not have been reworked into a "only lucian item" > > other changes were fine except zeal items should have cost 2800 gold instead of 2900 Hey now, ER is busted on Twitch. It gives a free AS steroid on his ult and lets him pop _multiple_ contaminates.
its really not, if you get it early it gimps your powerspike and if you get it lategame then your autos are already doing more than your contaminate
Rioter Comments
: I Hate The Disrespect For Low Elo Players
but low elo players are literally worse
: Part of the beggining tutorial should be an unwinnable lane, heres why
"Smurf" you're not fooling anyone buddy, a simple opgg shows that you have a 45% wr in gold
Terchio (NA)
: It definitely helps Kog more. Kog can use it defensively, Shaco can use it offensively, but at the end of the day, Kog at very least brings the fight closer to his tower/allies and reduces Shaco's potential kill window. It may be 2 "flashes" vs 1 in mobility, and sounds good on paper, but dropping to 1 vs 0 is detrimental to the immobile champion.
yeha thats what i was tryna say, think i should probably rewrit my comment because the grammar is p bad
Pika Fox (NA)
: Tbh immobile champs are hurt more by flash than it helps. Shaco with flash is going to kill you harder from farther away. Flash isnt really going to do nearly as much for kog/velk etc.
"Flash helps shaco more than kogmaw" L M A O I don't think I've laughed so hard at a comment on this website before. Doesn't matter if shaco will kill you harder, the main value flash has for champs like kog are is how you can use it defensively. Flash is 10x more useful on immobile than mobile champs
: I can agree entirely. I was Gold 2 last year, and going 8/2 in my new-years placements shot me down to Silver 3, and I've been struggling to escape this hell-hole a second time. I didn't get worse! All the knowledge and experience I've accumulated over these years didn't magically poof away! I have a ton of Silver friends who I could solemnly vouch are really, really good, and I have a ton of Gold friends who actually sacrifice their MMR just to duo with me because they know I can hold my own well enough to not burden my team. But when I get three games in a row of 0/11/2 trundle supports, it just completely shatters any hopes I can possibly have of climbing my way out of here. Sometimes it feels like I'm just cursed.
You have 1252 games in silver with a negative winrate. Do you really believe that you haven't gotten worse?
Elohaven (NA)
: Shouldn't be 100-0'ing people that early unless fed. Udyr is a juggernaut who should have had some health (10% or so) after that full combo. He got caught out - cool. But he shouldn't have been bursted that fast.
lol "juggernaut" he's level 7 bro he probably hasnt even finished any item other than his smite enchant and at most a ruby crystal for tankiness
5050BS (NA)
: Where do people get these % gold efficiency numbers?
wildfox99 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=JamesTheMage15,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jj0LJfXW,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-06-20T22:44:21.452+0000) > > Astral Scimitar (inspired by {{item:3139}}) > > Cost: 3000 gold > > Build path: {{item:3191}} + {{item:3113}} + {{item:1027}} + 700 gold > > 65 AP > 55 Armor > 5% Movement Speed > > UNIQUE Passive: Block 5% of incoming physical damage > > ______________ > > Thoughts? I added the small mana portion because most mages go oom really easily if they rush zhonyas, so this is a good alernative. Also, the small ms boost, i dont really have an explanation, i just kinda felt like it belonged on the item. Maybe its a stupid idea idk. it doesn't give any mana pool,so why {{item:1027}} ? btw it would be kinda weak,it should be at least **75** ap 55 armor **7**%ms UNIQUE passive : block 5% + **(1.5% every 100 AP)** physical damage damage and regenerate it as mana
that item is literally 130.7% gold efficient WITHOUT the passive lmfaooo
: I feel like moving Ultimate Hat to Domination will make Sorcery Tree obsolete.
Yeah sorcery sucks lol celerity is fucking dick, so is gathering storm, transcendence and absolute focus. Let's not forget about the "free hexdrinker" every assassin apparently got from nullifying orb, guess thats shit too.
Rexxiee (NA)
: The crit changes will just send crit adcs back to the dumpster...
trist weak for 2 years lol. you're right though, fuck lucian when he's strong
: *When the enemy fed xayah has a 1.5k hp shield and has dmg reduction from locket*
: as a midlaner and toplaner i find myself more discouraged to make plays in a losing botlane
You don't ever do everything 100% all the time- if it is more beneficial to stay in your lane and pressure objectives in order to win the game, who gives a shit about your team's losing lane. If it's more beneficial to just roam bot- e.g you have your tp up, just killed a turret top and it's crashing into their tower, why not just go bot and collect a few free kills. It isn't your responsibility to win their lane for them, but it is in your best interest to stabilize a losing lane so you have a higher chance of winning a game.
: It is his main damage, Q has 140% ap ratio with Lich bane and is targeted while E and R are unreliable due to the delay.
I said without the auto attack, straight up the spell only is pretty garbage
: Evidence: Last night our toplane DC'd 3 minutes into the game. Despite the enemy toplaner having free farm/turrets, we still won the game 4v5 pretty easily. Proof that toplaners are useless and have no impact on the game.
I'm sure that your 23-2 katarina didn't do anything and it's just solid proof toplane is useless
: Depends. As a 300k+ mastery Viktor player, I don't think I've oneshot someone with Q only, however an overfed Draven for example can do that. And Viktor Q has a cooldown, even though it's short, while ADCs can keep autoing for crits up to 1k dmg with fullbuild.
viktor's q isn't even his main damage lol (at least the part w/o the auto)
saltran (EUW)
: Twicht nerfs on the PBE
Glad they nerfed the uninteractive point and click ability, but I still think it's kinda funny varus and kogmaw still get to run around with their bullshit ass 1 item powerspike
NiamhNyx (NA)
: Lane Towers
They literally used a summoner spell (forgot the name, think it was "fortification" or something) to make the tower last longer. Before that it was still dying pretty fast.
: in no dimension cait and draven are weak
Fervor loss hurt draven a lot, idk about cait
: Agreed. This shit {{champion:96}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:67}} all need DIRECT NERFS Along with small nerfs to a few items like {{item:3087}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3094}} {{item:3085}} (preferrably cost nerfs over anything that directly hurts stat efficiency ASSUMING THE ABOVE MENTIONED CHAMPIONS RECEIVE DIRECT NUMBER NERFS).
Tristana was troll pick tier before rapid fire and shiv came along, historically whenever trist is strong it's because of items that synergize well with her (she's THE rapidfire+shiv combo abuser)
: > [{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pWMYEbhz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-14T16:14:30.575+0000) > > Support is the easiest role. > Stop acting like it is hard. Okay my AD carry, you go ahead and engage. Also ward and peel for me. And do it all without stepping slightly out of position, gaining minion aggro, and don't do it while I'm in the middle of an auto animation. You have 12 seconds. Go for it, whole team is depending on you. Edit - take the kill and you are reported.
> [{quoted}](name=DragonTroopBeta,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pWMYEbhz,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2018-01-14T20:36:25.199+0000) > > Okay my AD carry, you go ahead and engage. Also ward and peel for me. And do it all without stepping slightly out of position, gaining minion aggro, and don't do it while I'm in the middle of an auto animation. > > You have 12 seconds. Go for it, whole team is depending on you. > > Edit - take the kill and you are reported So support is hard because you need to trade properly and not be out of position. K Although I do agree supports get blamed too much.
koshkyra (NA)
: I winder why ADCs are so op..
Triforce and black cleaver OP
Seen (NA)
: What is the one phrase that puts you on full tilt?
: Kha'Zix Buff on PBE?
Kha is strong because of his cheese lvl 6 r evo to run around invis at 7000 miles per hour, probably going to nerf that and encourage q evo again
Skorch (NA)
: Yknow, that Diana did a LOT of damage. But do you know something even more weird i noticed. The Fact that they had 2k gold up, 2 turrets, Diana was level 10, it was 2/3rds of the way through the game, and... most importantly... HAD 221 AP. Sorry but Runes dont give that much. And even then, AD assassins can do the same thing with {{item:3142}} or {{item:3147}} Katarina with {{item:3146}}. I'll admit that damage was pretty crazy. But i dont believe that "Not even 1 item" crap at all. Hell the Vi one too, There is no way Red team was 5 turrets up at 20 min with a 6k lead and Vi had 1 1/2 items. And if that Item was triforce I 100% see her autos doing a little over 100 damage.
: No, ADCs need to be nerfed to Cait/Lucian levels. If you buff those, you'll just have another season with them dominating. ADCs should all be nerfed until they are no longer mandatory.
Ah yes, the classic nerf all adcs until they feel like shit, the PINNACLE of human thinking and the reason riot should hire people like boards posters to balance the game.
Niyumi (NA)
: Not even. Half of your team is irrelevant if your bot lane isn't doing well, and the only job your jungler and top lane has is to keep your ADC alive and set up kills for them. Your mid laner just applies ambient damage, might pick up a kill or two, and is otherwise just a zoning bot. Game is just more snowbally, so you can't hold back a team on your own anymore. Now it requires your ADC, because they're the only ones that can put out enough damage. In your latest poppy game, your adc went 9/4/10 and their's went 2/8... the reason you lost was because of your level 10, presumably afk yasuo. Stop pushing a false narrative just so you can get upvotes on this shitty forum.
Niyumi (NA)
: You know what bothers me most right now? In your latest poppy game, your adc went 9/4/10 and their's went 2/8... the reason you lost was because of your level 10, presumably afk yasuo. Stop pushing a false narrative just so you can get upvotes on this shitty forum.
McFatal (NA)
: there is something about fighting against vayne as a melee that i cant seem to understand
So you aren't stronger than an adc in a 5v5.... gee whiz guys, better fire everyone at riot!!!!!
: It's better to focus on someone's argument rather than their rank. They could be posting on a smurf account, they could have better game knowledge than their ability to play it, etc. It's better to focus on their words, rather than what their supposed rank is.
Dont think a smurf would have a 30% winrate...
Rendrex (EUW)
: The only 'expensive' adc item besides Infinity is Reaver which is build only on a few.
Atlas (EUNE)
: ***
First of all, yes you can climb with any champion, stop blaming external factors on why you yourself cannot climb. Yes, some champions will be weaker than others, but that is always going to be the case (strong champs and weak champs), there is no way to make every champ the exact same.
: there are too many bad players in this game
Buddy, you're a Janna player.
WolfChases (EUNE)
: How comes that Hashinshin isn't baned?
Because he's just an annoying %%%%t. If annoying %%%%s faced some kind of punishment in this game, half the playerbase would be gone right now.
xGunna1 (EUW)
: champs that are broken with scripts
: Why playing top lane sucks
so you lose games where at least 60% of your team is doing bad?
: unless shes against a fucking mf zyra or some aids like that she can go toe to toe with any adc look at any vods or even look at parts of the second yt video, she wins 2v2s easily
Being weak early game /=never being to win a 2v2 ever
Itankyou (NA)
: The defensive masteries blow.
Ah yes, aftershock is the shittiest mastery in the game. /s
: vayne needs to be fixed
"easily lane dominant"
: ADC dmg
Adc's are not "oneshotting" you.
DarkRooster (EUNE)
: I see you are new to micro transaction era. When you mature you will understand it. But i said everything there is to say, we paid for this game and we will ask for this game to retain its quality. No i am not minority technically, they stopped releasing player numbers and experts have pinpointed that majority from peak have already quit. So basically its minority with majority of it crying about the game in forum, reddit, another forums and game itself. There is 100 people crying about game state and 1 replying that he really likes it. When you pass middle school you will get a lot about statistics. Also LoL in global fame is known as one of the most cancerous games out there. If you ever bring it up in random place there will be more haters than lovers.
Nayzumi (NA)
: League is at a state in the game where it's not even enjoyable to play anymore.
nobody actually cares, if you guys are gonna quit, just quit.
Rioter Comments
aZ3R0n (NA)
: Simple ideas to prevent this game from being so steamrolly that the game is decided in 5 minutes.
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