: Two sisters and a wolf [Lore theory about Jinx, Vi, and Warwick]
I always thought Warwick was their father but you have a point there.
d00mface (EUW)
: Why would they fight? They're boyfriends. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Pika Fox (NA)
: Mord would win, easily. Aatrox is old, worn out and weak. He is no longer anywhere remotely close to his prime, and cant even exist for an extended period of time since no host can actually handle his weakened power.
But what about Pre-Darkin Aatrox?
: We don’t know how Morde’s Necromancy interacts with Celestial magic. For all we know Morde could imprison a Darkin weapon in his own Shadow realm and render it moot. Edit: Morde could probably wield a Darkin weapon
Yeah, he could imprison on it inside but only for a few seconds before returning because it isn't really dead so it doesn't belong in the Death Realm.
Jaspers (EUW)
: I know you didn't but but they aren't Ascended, they are souls trapped in weapons malforming bodies. A weapon is still just that an inanimate thing, drop it and it stays there. Disconnect the weapon from the host, what do you get? Send a body to the death realm but leave the sword, what do you get? Just saying Ascended's die to make sure people know they do. I think everyone makes too much of Ascendeds/Darkins and make them out to be too powerful. Also think people make out like Aspects are too powerful too, beating a Pantheon is not a feat, everyone has done it. :P Pretty sure throw anyone (other the voidborn obviously) into the Void they'd die, Aatrox and Morde alike.
Only two people have been stated in lore to be able to kill Pantheon. Aurelion Sol and Aatrox. I don't know where you're getting that from. I agree with you about the darkin sword stuff but Ascended Aatrox has been stated to kill beings like Ornn. Something I haven't seen Morde do at all and safe to say that he couldn't do so to a similar being. Nasus killing one and Taanari killing one kinda don't mean anything because the beings in mentioned are the same as them. 3 ascended and Setaka died to the Void which we can all say has even more destructive and corruptive power than Mordekaiser.
: Well I’m going to give Mordekaiser the edge due to his knowledge in magic. Aatrox’ Blood magic can’t really affect the Tinhead, and if anyone can understand and use magic powerful enough to destroy a Darkin, it would be Mordekaiser. I somehowe doubt that’s Aatrox has the magical know-how to permanently destroy Mordekaiser, if even just killing Mordekaiser is possible. In fact, I would go so far as to say that Mordekaiser could take on all five of the Darkin, at the very least, the three we’ve already seen. As for the respective armies, I’ll give that to Mordekaiser. Army of ghosts tends to outmatch army of thralls.
Don't know about that. I seriously doubt Mordekaiser can destroy a curse made from celestial magic by the Aspect Of Twilight. We all know that the Aspect of Twilight is one of the most powerful beings in the universe that can affect the world on a global scale unlike Morde. Neither does Morde because necromancy and spirit magic won't cut it and again, the curse was made with celestial magic. You're overrestimating Mordekaiser's capabilities. Mordekaiser won't be able to handle even two and even more, three celestial/sun powered god warriors. Sure but Aatrox would use and meld his army into his own and improve his form even more. He would become gigantic and then he'll be able to take care of the army of ghosts and Morde.
Rioter Comments
: Demigods vs. Lissandra
Feels like if Volibear wants to finish the job then he could. I think we can say that Volibear/Ornn/Anivia are much more powerful than the other demigods and are essentially, the Big Three. I'm cinfident to aay that Lissandra won't be able to remove Ornn or Volibear at all. Also, were you thinking of Blackforst Anivia when you said Liss plans on corrupting her?
Jaspers (EUW)
: I'd rather he lacks it so he stays this homicidal maniac we have, what are they going to do? Make him relateable? Please, nut job wants to do nothing but kill, let him stay that way. BUT having something would be nice, the champ is Kayn mind you, so he has the bulk but Rhaast plays a big role so why not something.
They don't have to really make him relatable but he should really have a backstory on either how he became worthy of ascension or during his prime and fallen days.
: Take a look at Necrit, a lore youtuber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKwR-tC53UI. And Rhaast is a darkin, which have plenty of lore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knRpuWCQMhE Keep in mind these are older ones, watch his newer videos for more
I know about Necrit. His newer videos don't really have anything to do with the Darkin. I'm talking about lore specifically on Rhaast but I guess I might be able to get something else out of the video.
: Because Nunu and Willump are partners and both are a part of their kit. Nunu uses his flute to summon snowballs and help his allies/Willump while Willump hits people, eats things, pushes snowballs, and roots people Nunu hits. They also both use their powers together for their ult. Their kit is very much the both of them while Kayn's kit is just Kayn doing things and Rhaast just doing evil scythe things. Rhaast is meant to be a one note character, his purpose is character development for Kayn.
Aren't Kayn and Rhaast partners? Without each other, they aren't a champion. Both are integral parts of the kit. Without Rhaast, Kayn is nothing.
: ***
Then why is it in the game, the name is still Kayn? You do know that the wiki cam be changed right? Someone who is unsatisfied with it changed it. And you call me toxic? Look who is name calling and is spouting some bs. It sucks even more to have people like you in this community of good manners and hospitality. I think you're the one who looks up to them buddy. Not me. Uuuh what? I didn't complain about the lore though? I complained about Rhaast. Don't put words in my mouth. You just wish I'd say those things to prove your nonsense. I don't play NA league. I play in the Garena. I'm well over 100 levels in. I don't want to hear that from you. You aren't even a moderator or a famous guy here. Just some toxic guy. You don't represent them and stop putting words in their mouths. The only people I recognize that are known here in boards are Warlord Rhinark, theIceborne, Ryzethesmurf, Hyper10plosion (the power levels guy) and Camille. Who the hell are you? Now you try to act all high and mighty and walk off on your high horse acting like you won.
: I agree, a little reason as to how he became a crazy bloodthirsty snark machine would be great. Was he always a bloodthirsty maniac and did his Ascension emphasize that? Or did it come after the Void war? What was he like that he was respected enough to be allowed to ascend? I know people say Rhaast can be a little one-note, but we just don't know that much about him. I think some back story and some development of his relationship with Kayn could remedy this. Do Kayn become somewhat close despite their nasty rivalry? What does he think of Kayn other than his value as a host? Will his opinion change over time? From their dialogue you almost get the feeling that Rhaast kind of likes some of Kayn's behaviors, even though he effectively wants him dead. Kayn almost feels glad to have someone validate him, even if its an awful person like Rhaast. There's a lot of potential there. Rhaast is as much a Champion as Kayn. You have the potential to play as him and only him. It only makes sense that he gets some lore more focused on him.
It's just a shame Riot doesn't recognize him though I think? Riot named Nunu, Nunu **and Willump**, meaning they recognize Willump as a champion too. Right? People say that Rhaast is a one note character but we don't know anything about his past to conclude that. He might've even been the opposite of what is now back then.
: For real. The excuse of him not being a champion makes totally no sense not only for Kai and Valmar but also all the lore they release with random people that arent even champions. Rhaast needs lore we know nothing about him and hes IMO the most important part of Kayn's story, Kayn is just a edgy shadow ninja whos great at every weapon, theres nothing that interesting with that until you bring in the Darkin. He was even name dropped in the Twilight of the Gods story from one of the other Darkin so he obviously is important to the story of the Darkin or atleast has a part that should be told. Hopefully when Riot finally gets around to releasing the Darkin female or the last unknown Darkin rather than these other champs like Yuumi or Qiyana they'll release some lore to show some more love to the Darkin and especially Rhaast.
I agree. Without Rhaast, Kayn isn't that much interesting. He is jsut a teenager who is good with any weapon which is again, uninteresting. Rhaast is an important part of Kayn's story and what people forget is that he is going back to Ionia with Rhaast to report to Zed and once Zed finds out what Rhaast really is, he might attempt to try and dispose of him but Kayn will prevent him from doing so and a battle will ensue.
: I agree. Sorry to go off topic a bit here but I felt like mentioning this.. I'm sorta still sad that the overall lore suggests that each Darkin dislike each other (almost hate each other). I always sort of imagined them being this sort of 3 evil brothers in arms.
I still think they do consider each other brothers but they are the type of brothers who really understand each other and still hate each other. Aatrox and Rhaast still refer to each other as brothers. Also they had some personal history if this helps. Aatrox considered Rhaast strong and was disappointed when he killed him. Rhaast took note of Aatrox' skill.
: Here's the thing though. I say this with all the love in my heart, Rhaast isn't that interesting. He's a **Fantastic** character with great personality, but overall, the dude was just some jerkbag conquering stuff and enslaving people. People are mixing up a fun character, for an interesting character, cause Rhaast is equally, if not possibly greater, a one-note character like Kayn. Why did Valmar and Kai get their own lore? Because uh, they're still a major factor for the story against the darkin Varus, trying to wrest control from him. They're the focal point around the character, these two lovers forged into one. Their love is the entire reason they currently stand against Varus. If anything, until Riot extremely slightly fleshed out Varus by giving him old Varus lore before he was a Darkin, Varus was the one with no lore and background. Why? Because the Darkin aren't the main character of these stories. They're antagonists, and while they do need to be fleshed out a little, they are not who the story revolves around. Kayn is the main character of his story, Rhaast is the obstacle between him and his goal. If Rhaast was a deeper character, maybe more lore would be needed, but as he is now, Rhaast is an extremely one-note character. His motivations: To be free and go killing stuff. His past: He was free and killing stuff. His ideal future: To be free and killing stuff, and then maybe getting depressed like Aatrox. Aatrox has lore, because he doesn't have any host to care about, and hosts become a use and discard aspect of his life. Aatrox is the actual character here, not the conflict between Darkin and Host.
We don't know enough about Rhaast's past to draw conclusions that he has always been an evil guy. We know that not all Darkin stayed the same as they were during their prime. Take Aatrox as an example, he wasn't this depressing, angry and fearsome before. Before he became like that, Aatrox inspired armies and was the definition of nobleness aside from Setaka. He still had good intentions back then. Was Rhaast always like this? Is killing ability worthy of ascension? For all we know, he might've the embodiment of justice in his prime and spread order and justice wherever he went. Maybe that's what made him worthy of ascension, because he was the ultimate cop, and now he become the literal embodiment of chaos and madness. Even antagonists deserve backstory or lore. There are plenty of antagonists in league that got lore and background. Again, Rhaast's past is completely unknown to us so we can't jsut draw conclusions that he was like that before.
: honestly I think Rhaast is the most genuinely evil of all the Darkin. Varus is on a vendetta of vengeance, Aatrox has plenty of mental issues, Rhaast is the one darkin who seems to just enjoy killing, he is just unlucky to be inexperienced in possessing a vessel and ending up with a powerful wielder who's will power is holding him back. really, think about it. the darkin tend to pervert the purpose of their weapons (symbolically). Aatrox uses the noble sword for senseless slaughter for his own selfish reasons. Varus is stated to use his arrows to terrorize victims instead of the precise, quick kill the bow is used for. Rhaast? Rhaast uses a Scythe, a weapon associated with killing and killing only (in terms of as a weapon, not a gardening tool lol). and another thing. Rhaast exhibits a deep cunning and manipulation against Kayn, showing a sharp intellect and patience. once he takes over Kayne, he becomes an ECSTATIC mass murderer. please note this seems to be the only goal of Rhaast when free, unlike Aatrox and Varus. in conclusion, by himself Rhaast is just an evil Darkin with nothing more than bloodlust fueling his every action.
I know that but I want to know about his past. Was he really always like that? Was murderous intent and ability recognized as something worthy of ascension? If so why? What forced him to become a Darkin so malicious? What are his views of being trapped in his own weapon? What I truly want know is his backstory or ayleast some parts of his past.
: When have they given this excuse: "Don't give us the excuse of Rhaast not being a champion." for literally ANYTHING? They give lore for people who aren't champions all the time. Not only that, but RHAAST IS A CHAMPION. Literally the whole point of Kayn is that he's two different timelines in one champion. One where Kayn wins and one where Rhaast wins. Your name literally changes to Rhaast when you go red form, he is very much a champion. You're really trying to bait people into getting angry over Rhaast lore when he at least has lore. There is still a Darkin we haven't even heard about... and you're over here worrying about a Darkin that at least has lore? Why the hell wouldn't they give Rhaast lore eventually? Like what is up with your mindset? He's literally part of one of the most interesting stories riot has with Zed and Ionia. League's lore is finally starting to move forward, he'll probably be getting stories with Kayn and his attempts at manipulating Kayn. Stop searching for a problem where there isn't one. Rhaast isn't of concern lore wise. It's clear you're not even a big fan of the lore just by how obnoxious you sound to anyone who does.
They did though. Just can't remember what post it was from. If Riot recognized Rhaast as a champion, shouldn't it be Kayn and Rhaast and not only Kayn? You're spouting bs. You clearly haven't played Rhaast at all. Your name doesn't change to Rhaast at all when you pick Rhaast. Again, you're just spouting bs. Interesting parts? Like what? He only featured at the END OF KAYN'S STORY. Hell, even in the Twilight of Gods, he only got a single mention. There is a problem though. Why couldn't they updated Rhaast during the Darkin Update? And that Darkin isn't really a apart of the game yet. Why should I and others worry about something that isn't even in the game yet? We'd rather worry about something that is IN the game. Rhaast IS A CONCERN LORE-WISE. You do realize that Rhaast will be brought to Zed and when Rhaast corrupts Kayn or him, both of which are extremely exceptional assassins, he can cause a country-scaled massacre across Ionia. Even if he isn't, that is not an excuse not to give him lore. Mundo got lore even though he contributes zero percentage to Zaun's story. Who are you to say that I'm not? That's your perspective there buddy. Name-calling won't get you anywhere with me. I'm not obnoxious, I'm just stating facts, seomthign you don't seem to understand and just start to spout some bs. Should've known better than to expect good hospitality and manners here but here you are.
Rioter Comments
: So Mordekaiser Could BeThe Strongest Being?
{{champion:136}} : Am I a joke to you?
: low odds but might still stand a chance: {{champion:266}} darkin, so ascended lvl of strenght at least {{champion:127}} power from a watcher or something i think {{champion:75}} ascended being {{champion:58}} same as susan {{champion:101}} op ascended {{champion:142}} i think ascended or something probably stronger: {{champion:34}} a god {{champion:516}} a god {{champion:106}} a god {{champion:432}} a celestial being (above a god) but he aint a fighter so idk stronger than mord for sure: {{champion:136}} he launch galaxies at people not a champion but, the watchers (only exist in lore) kinda strongest being in league {{champion:17}} mord fuked if he face him 1v1, he is the only reason the watchers dont dare invade runatera
I think the Ascended and the Aspects win since they are fueled by celestial energy which is superior to Morde's magic. Also, Morde can't be killed but it doesn't mean he is impossible to 1v1.
: Yes but Ixtal apparently assisted in the creation of the Sun Disks. Also they fell apart after both the Void War and Azir's failed Ascension. Ixtal survived, Shurima as it was once known did not.
It is said that Ixtal **likely** assisted which means it's just an assumption and not a fact. Shurima has now also been rebuilt by Azir and it's Ascended are still around.
: I wonder since the new lore says that Ixtal joined Shurima and contributed some of the first Ascended, is Aatrox's accent from the region? It would explain why his accent is different from the other Darkin and Ascended.
No, the lore says that they "likely" meaning it is assumed and not sure that they contributed. It is just an assumption that they contributed to Shurima merely because the Ixtal is older. Aatrox is not from Ixtal.
: Qiyana - Special Interactions!
Qiyana: "What does Shurima have?" Several godlike ascended that could level your entire city or wipe out your armies all by themselves, A sun disk that was made to create said godly ascended, and weapons such as the Shuriman Colossus in Ryze's video. Also, the Shurima is also comepletely large while Ixtal is only half the size of it.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Craft Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=89xO9qch,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-03-04T04:11:16.751+0000) > > Also, Zoe happens to be a Lunari. Zoe also happens to be a successor of the girl who trapped the darkin in the first place. She could finish them off, if she cared.
Only if Zoe can trick the Darkin. Only reason that the Aspect of Twilight did those things is because she had help from another Darkin.
: Female Faces
Why would they bother changing the face when you aren't gonna see it anyway at all.
: Without armor, your army will lose. That’s just how medieval fighting works. Is he afraid to die? Maybe, I dunno. In his lore he puts himself in life threatening situations with regularity including promising to be killed by a witch where his armor would not protect him. But pointing out that he wears something necessary to be effective at his job with the self satisfaction that you’ve somehow said something cutting and enlightening is bizarre.
I don't know how you think I tried to say something cutting and enlightening but that is your fault He puts himself into life threatening situations with regularity so that his men and his people can be safe. Being fearful doesn't mean you can't act at all. It simply means that you are afraid of what might happen so you try to do something to prevent that. Wearing armor is necessary for his job so that magic is nullified and he won't die. The fear of death is still there. The reason petricite armor was made is becuse of their fear of magic. This is deeply embedded into Garen when he was a child ever since his uncle was killed.
: Wearing armor does not mean you are afraid to die, means you smart enough to attempt to keep from dieing. Big difference. And not wearing armor doesn't mean you embrace death, it simply means you dont think you need armor. Now you can wear armor and be afraid of death, but wearing armor does not = afraid of death. Wearing the armor is not making you afraid of death, but being afraid of death could make you wear armor. See the difference?
People wear armor to keep themselves from dying is basically fearing death. It is also the general consensus for almost everyone that wearing armor will prevent anyone from dying. One of the reasons armor was invented was so that people won't die. Wearing armor isn't making you afraid death if you are already scared of it. You fear death so that's the reason you wore the armor in the first place Not wearing armor in a battlefield means that you are not afraid to die at all. It isn't just something that soldiers think they don't need. A person knows the risks of not wearing armor into battle and yet he still did not wear it. That must meam he is either brave or foolish. If you are trying to be condescending then you shouldn't have bothered replying to my comment.
: Honestly, Morgana's line to Garen kinda annoyed me. "Those who wear armor are afraid to die." Bitch do you know how insane medieval battlefields are? Weapons are flying around, arrows are shot at you, there is a mass of a hundred men with spears all attempting to stab you in rows. What fucking moron wouldn't wear armor?
The point is that wearing armor means that you are afraid of getting hit by weapons which basically means death so you wear armor to prevent that. It signifies that you are afraid to die to those so you wear armor instead. I just repeated myself though. Not wearing an armor however means you are either extremely brave or foolish and you are not afraid to die but you instead embrace it.
: The worst part about the Kayle rework...
You're complaining about her neck? You do know that you look at her from the top right? You won't even see it. Have you seen RiotAugust's post? They are doing something about it. Her wings are a whole lot better than the previous ones.
Käcey (NA)
: Made a screenshot armor edit of the kayle rework
The wings are horrible to look at even if you make it detailed. It would also shrink her model, making her a midget once more. Since I personally like the color red. It looks more appealing to the eyes.
: I don't think it's that bad I just don't want the unnecessary sexualization and want her to have bigger wings.
Bigger wings = smaller model RiotAugust specifically said that he does not want that.
: Old Kayle design + new Kayle ability particles would be ideal. Six wings would be a fine stylistic addition too. The new armor, body, and face are otherwise drastically worse. Also the blue plastic sword looks dreadful. This is not a quality improvement and should not be released anywhere close to what is shown in the preview. I play with the Iron Inquisitor skin so hopefully that one isn't ruined like the classic skin apparently is. I still have hopes that the new kit could be good.
Well it hasn't been released at all except the test servers. You say it like Riot will release like that.
: I voted for overhaul. Loved the multiple wings, so they could stay (although maybe a little bit bigger would help), but she needs more armor. I would also do a big revamp for the armor design and the white/gold color scheme in general, since she looked a bit too much like Galio for my tastes. Perhaps maybe try to give her a different body shape, face shape, or hair style while I'm at it (her old hair style suited her way better, and while the face isn't the biggest deal with Kayle, to me the only requirement that needs to stay is that she needs to look somewhat like Morgana. And I'm sure it wouldn't kill Riot for both of them to have a slightly more diverse face from the other female characters).
I don't think they will change her face at all since your view is from the top. They migjt change the body but not the face. She is supposed to be from Demacia. Ofcourse she'll have a demacian theme.
Rioter Comments
: Kayle's visual design missed the mark
The level of ungratefulness in this is overwhelming.
: Those are not permanent ends at all. Kaisa grew up without Kassadin for years and both of them were heavily affected by the Void. How could they possibly move on? What would they even do with themselves? How are they supposed to become a family when they don't even understand themselves anymore? Nami's duty as a Tidecaller is done when she retrieves the moonstone. Like the hobbits in LOTR, Nami's not going to be unaffected by her journey abroad. It's unlikely she'll be able to go back to being a normal fishgirl civilian. How is she supposed to live in ignorance once more now that she's seen what the rest of the world has to offer? How can she just settle down and have kids or whatever when she knows the Void is not just under the sea with her, but all across the world? Irelia's the most baffling of these examples of not-political-leaders because she *is* a political leader. Her conflict with Karma is specifically a political one; Irelia believes they should fight and abandon tradition to slaughter the Noxian threat, while Karma urges a more cautious approach. Irelia also has problems with the Kinkou and others who stood neutral during the war. Even if all of that ended in peace and harmony, there's no guarantee that Noxus would not come back, or that some other power would not try to take Ionia's riches. And there's Xayah and Rakan's revolution to consider.
It doesn't hurt for them to try though? Kassadin did all those things to find her. He isn't just gonna leave her be again after the Void has been dealt with. He may not know how to be a father but it doesn't hurt to try. If he does try then that's what I call a character developing. Kai'sa is incapable of feeling emotion but she isn't dumb enough to not understand what people try to say to her. They don't have to be a normal family but they can still be a family regardless. Nami is fascinated by the world above her but that doesn't mean she will help them. Her duty lies beside her own tribe and she prioritizes her people's lives more than the surface world. Sure, the Void is everywhere but that doesn't she has to go everywhere to fight it. The Marai tribe are dealing with their own void problem and like I said, she cares more about her people than the surface. Let's say that she wants to explore. That's it. Her story permanently ends with her exploring the world and eventually returning home to bring gifts to her people. Irelia is a bad example I admit but I have plenty other examples. Like in my post, Darius would probably settle down when he gets too old (evidence of this is through Tahm Kench) or die in battle to Garen. Draven can't shine forever in the spotlights so he either dies in his last glorious battle or retire and settle down, becoming a retired star like irl, gloating or what his prime was like. Aatrox permanent end would be him becoming too powerful and the Aspect finishes the job for good this time with the moon ritual and then they fight long-lasting brutal fight with Aatrox happily and finally dying in the end. Aurelion Sol has finally broken free from Targon's grasp and obliterates Mount Targon to ashes. He now then continue what loves and does best; creating stars and watching them grow, he would occasionally close a void rift now and then but would still continue doing what he loves to do. Maokai would restore the Shadow Isles back to what it once was and he return to being a normal tree once again, just like what he wanted to be again. Kled does what he does best, defending and galloping about his territory. Master Yi has taught all of what he knows about Wuju to Wukong and spends the rest of his days meditating and die of old age while Wukong would continue the art of Wuju and teach it to others eventually reviving the Wuju style. Riven's story has already ended. She has reconciled and now lives her days spending time with her new family and helping others. Edit: I could go on but there are so many of them.
: Tbh Azir's arc wouldn't end after probably beating Xerath and rebuilding Shurima. He has Noxus to worry about, the Void, Shadow Isles etc. Nation leaders in general won't have their lore ended unless they die, and please, PLEASE don't kill Azir.
I like to think that after Azir rebuilds his Shurima, he would pass the crown to Sivir because Azir knows that his time is over and a new leader must rise.
: "Permanently end?" There's no permanent end (outside of death), friend, there's just a point where the storyteller stops talking. There are very few champions that could even have a true "ending" wherein their story is complete and they have nothing else to do or anywhere else to go. Example1: Even if Shurima is rebuilt and the issue of Emperor/Empress decided, there will be political issues to deal with. The Void will always be a problem. The potential threat of the Darkin returning. Noxus remains an imperial powerhouse. Shurima may very well decide to expand east, into Kumungu (or whatever that are of jungle is called now) Example2: Let's say Nami gets the moonstone and returns home. Would the Marai tribe truly feel like home anymore? Now that she's seen so much of the surface world, seen so much of not just the world but the very real threat that the Void beneath her people poses to all of it? Could she really just go back under water and live her life as it was? Example3: Even if the Freljord units under Ashe, Sejuani joins her as her military commander, and Lissandra sees the error of her ways and joins with them both (incredibly unlikely), that would mean that the Freljord just became an international power. They would have to deal with Noxus and Demacia (heck, the two might see a united Freljord of this scale as a legitimate enough threat to necessitate it). The demigods of the Freljord are still a thing. etc etc
Most champions can have a permanent ending. Perhaps only Nation leaders such as Swain, Ashe, and Jarvan will never have an end. But other champs can and they don't have to die to do so. Kassadin and Kaisa finally accomplishes their goal of banishing/destroying the void and Kass has found his daughter. They now live the rest of their days living like normal family. Nami's tribe way of dealing with the Void is through the moonstone. That's why they sent her out in the first place. She would bitterly leave the surface world for her people and protect them using the moonstone. Noxus finally leaves Ionia alone for good, what will Irelia finally do now? She's not a political/spiritual leader like Karma. She's more of a general really and generals are only necessary in war. I like to think Irelia's story to end and spends the rest of her days dancing with her blades and possibly be a teacher of her martial art or what. Only political leader will never have an end until they die.
: To have a good story and development before they are finished from being in the spotlight. And I would very much like if some characters die.
Hmmm alright. How would you like Camille's story to end?
Rioter Comments
Wulfston (NA)
: The Morgana VGU - A promise almost surely broken (non-gameplay)
Who said a Fallen angel is supposed to be intimidating? A fallen angel could mean an angel who rebels, fallen from grace, and ruined wings. This is a matter of opinion.
Terozu (NA)
: {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Whether or not they will actually happen us up in the air and definitely not set in stone. Hell for all we know they're visions of a goddamned alternative future and that's if they get included at all.
It's not canon as of now but it will.
drash79 (NA)
: Height comparisons for Awaken
You are doing god's work. I personally like details like their heights.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-01-13T10:32:31.424+0000) > > What are you talking about? > First off we dont know who would win but you realize True Ice can kill Azir? its lethal > You realize that Liss has been alive for thousands and thousands and thousands of years long before shurima was on the map, she knows about shurimas rise and fall, what do you think how much knowledge on azir and general magic she gained throughout that time? > > Renekton beat Volibear? Only the Darkin have been obeserved to go toe to toe with a demigod not a normal ascended and just because darking can go toe to toe doesnt mean that they would win.,, > > So all you can do is speculate and lets not forget Azir has missed a lot being dead over thousands of years while lissandra has been expanding on knowledge.. Im not saying she wins Im just saying we can speculate Volibear likely wins. He's the elemental personification of the storm and of he's anything like Ornn he could be almost the size of mountains if he wanted.
Yeah but that didn't stop Aatrox (Darkin) from killing Gods or spirits on the same level as Ornn even before he was a Darkin. Renekton has a chance in beating Volibear.
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: > [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-13T04:01:44.856+0000) > > azir would beat lissandra if he is indeed an arisen because she's basically an ice witch or more plainly, a magic wielder that uses or controls ice (so i'm not sure about the teleport thing) > > renekton would beat volibear, likely being a represetation of power > > I wonder how syndra factors into this as supposedly, she has infinitely growing magic at her disposal > > in your question, it would likely be about who was more clever with their power > > {{champion:75}} Nasus seems to gain his power based on faith(or at least, my justification of sacrifices based on his Q), so oddly enough, i'd place him as the weakest among them unless he has a legion of followers around > > {{champion:101}} : raw, concentrated magical power and influence > > {{champion:58}} : raw, physical power > > {{champion:268}} : superior numbers > > > in numerical order, I'd say overall: {{champion:75}} < {{champion:58}} < {{champion:268}} < {{champion:101}} and syndra would probably be a tie for xerath but could be beaten by azir > > If nasus had a legion of followers, he could overpower his opposition however, so it's all in the circumstances. Azir beats syndra because he has an endless army at his disposal. Syndra ties xerath because it's basically unlimited power against unlimited power, Renekton beats nasus because he can use the physical laws of the universe to his advantage as force is a basic measure for destruction > > I justify azir beating syndra because although she is power hungry, she is less likely to create an extinction level event to win a fight when compared to Xerath What are you talking about? First off we dont know who would win but you realize True Ice can kill Azir? its lethal You realize that Liss has been alive for thousands and thousands and thousands of years long before shurima was on the map, she knows about shurimas rise and fall, what do you think how much knowledge on azir and general magic she gained throughout that time? Renekton beat Volibear? Only the Darkin have been obeserved to go toe to toe with a demigod not a normal ascended and just because darking can go toe to toe doesnt mean that they would win.,, So all you can do is speculate and lets not forget Azir has missed a lot being dead over thousands of years while lissandra has been expanding on knowledge.. Im not saying she wins Im just saying we can speculate One more thing: great Azir couldnt even hold his empire together or survive his best friend, so if he needs any tips on how to build and survive he knows who to ask
Well to be fair, Azir was just a human when his empire was destroyed and when his bestfriend betrayed him. I don't know about Lissandra and her knowledge about Azir and Shurima. Yes, she lived before and after Shurima but that doesn't mean she knows everything about it. It's highly likely that Lissandra at that time was more focused on her plans and the Watchers return rather than something a continent apart from Freljord (it's possible she didn't even heard about these Ascended at all.) Darkin are basically corrupted Ascended and Renekton is a high-tier Ascended on the same level of Nasus. Renekton can stand a chance against Volibear.
: ... in the fields of Demacia? im pretty sure that Lissandra, Xerath, Azir and Volibear would have problems due the petricite.
In the fields of Noxus then? How powerful are the two of them? Who do you think would win?
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Fasmodey (EUW)
: Thats like saying You can't be killed by a knife because both you and knife are made of atoms. Or that water cannot cut a fish because they literally live in water. And trusting on words of Ta'anari is funny since he was tricked by Aspect of Twilight, you know, LeBlanc v2. We still don't know details of Ascension and Aspects. We will see soon, probably in 3 months.
The thought I had was that beams of sunlight like leona's wouldn't affect the Ascended at all since it was literally how they were made ascended in the first place. Leona's way of using the sun is to shoot laser beams like in lore and in game.
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