: Warwick's tail is so fluffy
Pyrosan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:16:56.271+0000) > > I'm not the one who said anything outlandish that needs to be qualified. I also don't need to quote someone else to make these claims. > > If you want to press me about the winrates don't matter thing, I could make fun of you for ignoring 39% winrate ryze being the best champion in the game or I could reference 56% winrate mumu, or any of the games who's winrates fluctuate between 30 and 70% despite being unpatched for years, but because you seem to be getting really upset I don't want to say anything that would be too humiliating. (Yes, i'm a big softie, I know). > > Stuff like the Jhin Janna business speaks for itself. you've claimed you've done research and you're proposing gamebreaking buffs to varus so present the research you've done to validate your claims for a champion buff lol i've been typing inbetween deaths on an aram lad i'm not upset i'm just asking for you to stop lying about you doing research when you're unwilling to show us the research that validates him being buffed you certainly haven't been masters if you don't think this is gamebreaking so let's throw the lying out of the window tell me what you've compared, what you've researched and what actual perspective you're speaking through if you want to have an actual discussion so far you've said "na it's not gamebreaking because i play on na im masters play on 200 ping" - where are the stats to say he deserves a buff?
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:21:30.374+0000) > > Except it isn't actually a game breaking buff and I already explained why. > > And the stats suggesting he deserves a buff are his own values and kit relative to every other champion in the game. > > The same subject matter concerning *Any* champion to be buffed or nerfed since league's release. so i've asked you 5 times to show me any form of research you've done and you still have failed to present any actual evidence, quotes, research or anything along the lines outside of you saying you have experience on the champion lol i don't care if you don't think it's game breaking, show me the stats to why it wouldn't be game breaking and why giving him some crazy ass buff would put him in line with other kits varus's r is used to lockdown on champions of priority, it's a a free gank mechanic and can easily pickout champions as it is rewarding players for using the ultimate optimally isn't something you should do, you don't get rewarded by the game for being good at the game you reward yourself by winning games lol varus isn't bad doesn't need adjusitng other champions need to be toned down to his level and then you'll have balance stop tryna make everything crazy so it's balanced mr korean masters and since we're going as personal to look at op.gg's Zed 33% (3W 6L) 2.27 KDA you're certainly not masters if you're losing like that in level 19 lol now actually goodbye as my SR round is starting, :^)!
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:14:43.283+0000) > > still waiting for you to quote any research you've done zzz I'm not the one who said anything outlandish that needs to be qualified. I also don't need to quote someone else to make these claims. If you want to press me about the winrates don't matter thing, I could make fun of you for ignoring 39% winrate ryze being the best champion in the game or I could reference 56% winrate mumu, or any of the games who's winrates fluctuate between 30 and 70% despite being unpatched for years, but because you seem to be getting really upset I don't want to say anything that would be too humiliating. (Yes, i'm a big softie, I know). Stuff like the Jhin Janna business speaks for itself.
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:16:56.271+0000) > > I'm not the one who said anything outlandish that needs to be qualified. I also don't need to quote someone else to make these claims. > > If you want to press me about the winrates don't matter thing, I could make fun of you for ignoring 39% winrate ryze being the best champion in the game or I could reference 56% winrate mumu, or any of the games who's winrates fluctuate between 30 and 70% despite being unpatched for years, but because you seem to be getting really upset I don't want to say anything that would be too humiliating. (Yes, i'm a big softie, I know). > > Stuff like the Jhin Janna business speaks for itself. you've claimed you've done research and you're proposing gamebreaking buffs to varus so present the research you've done to validate your claims for a champion buff lol i've been typing inbetween deaths on an aram lad i'm not upset i'm just asking for you to stop lying about you doing research when you're unwilling to show us the research that validates him being buffed you certainly haven't been masters if you don't think this is gamebreaking so let's throw the lying out of the window tell me what you've compared, what you've researched and what actual perspective you're speaking through if you want to have an actual discussion so far you've said "na it's not gamebreaking because i play on na im masters play on 200 ping" - where are the stats to say he deserves a buff?
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:11:31.976+0000) > > oh mb didnt realise you were a level 19 acc ive been trolled LOL > > good one u got me In my defense I have spent more time in masters + than I have sub 30 on NA despite living in korea and playing on the NA server with a whooping 230 + ping
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:14:51.460+0000) > > In my defense I have spent more time in masters + than I have sub 30 on NA despite living in korea and playing on the NA server with a whooping 230 + ping ye me too chinese challenger right here play on na with 500 ping mb
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:10:28.572+0000) > > quote your sources > winrates > comparisions > > and nah that's literally what casters say about kaisa when casting lcs lol > > dont kno why im still bothering Winrates aren't indicative of a champion's strength or performance, so we found your first error right there. And if you're quoting lcs shout casters over the colormen (play by play) we found your second problem. Looking at your op.gg, your mmr is probably the third. Sorry, but if safety was the end all be all of making a good adc than jhin janna would be meta right now and clearly that isn't the case. I thought you said you were going, but it turns out you're still here, just despondent and more inclined to shut down and run away from facts.
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:13:55.904+0000) > > Winrates aren't indicative of a champion's strength or performance, so we found your first error right there. > > And if you're quoting lcs shout casters over the colormen (play by play) we found your second problem. > > Looking at your op.gg, your mmr is probably the third. > > Sorry, but if safety was the end all be all of making a good adc than jhin janna would be meta right now and clearly that isn't the case. > > I thought you said you were going, but it turns out you're still here, just despondent and more inclined to shut down and run away from facts. still waiting for you to quote any research you've done zzz
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:02:16.405+0000) > > vayne isn't any form of s tier > kog isn't any form of s tier > kaisa's only picked because of how safe she can be > > bruh > > just go look at some stats there's like 10 websites and bring everything into perspective If you think Kai'sa is getting picked for her safety you're missing out on why Kai'sa is so good. Kog is definitely S tier right now, and I don't know what type of nonexistant stats you're talking about or what stats that don't support your narrative you are referencing.
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:08:46.475+0000) > > If you think Kai'sa is getting picked for her safety you're missing out on why Kai'sa is so good. Kog is definitely S tier right now, and I don't know what type of nonexistant stats you're talking about or what stats that don't support your narrative you are referencing. oh mb didnt realise you were a level 19 acc ive been trolled LOL good one u got me
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:02:16.405+0000) > > vayne isn't any form of s tier > kog isn't any form of s tier > kaisa's only picked because of how safe she can be > > bruh > > just go look at some stats there's like 10 websites and bring everything into perspective If you think Kai'sa is getting picked for her safety you're missing out on why Kai'sa is so good. Kog is definitely S tier right now, and I don't know what type of nonexistant stats you're talking about or what stats that don't support your narrative you are referencing.
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:08:46.475+0000) > > If you think Kai'sa is getting picked for her safety you're missing out on why Kai'sa is so good. Kog is definitely S tier right now, and I don't know what type of nonexistant stats you're talking about or what stats that don't support your narrative you are referencing. quote your sources winrates comparisions and nah that's literally what casters say about kaisa when casting lcs lol dont kno why im still bothering
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=0002000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:03:31.107+0000) > > played since s1 but alr > ima go > dont rly wanna debate anything with u You lost interest trying to debate when your first argument was a swing and a miss.
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=00020000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:05:26.664+0000) > > You lost interest trying to debate when your first argument was a swing and a miss. i mean u still aint done any research but alr its not going 2 happen cya
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:58:43.947+0000) > > it'd be one of the most toxic changes of this patch because varus would become s+ tier and pick or ban > i don't think you understand the strengths of varus kit and what he already provides to a team so i don't really think you should be proposing gamebreaking changes to his kit lol > > review every other changes then propose changes based on actual statistics not "buff this champ so u get viewers rito" cause no one comes to twitch to watch varus gameplay lol If you think noone goes to twitch to watch varus gameplay you must have joined this season or last ;)
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=000200000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:01:19.794+0000) > > If you think noone goes to twitch to watch varus gameplay you must have joined this season or last ;) played since s1 but alr ima go dont rly wanna debate anything with u
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:58:43.947+0000) > > it'd be one of the most toxic changes of this patch because varus would become s+ tier and pick or ban > i don't think you understand the strengths of varus kit and what he already provides to a team so i don't really think you should be proposing gamebreaking changes to his kit lol He wouldn't be S+ tier, he would be s- tier behind ka'sa , Vayne and situationally kog maw. And i'm saying that as one of the biggest varus advocates there is. This would be a large buff but it wouldn't be comparable to purple side lethality varus before itemization nerfs, dragon reworks and his Q change.
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:00:34.363+0000) > > He wouldn't be S+ tier, he would be s- tier behind ka'sa , Vayne and situationally kog maw. > > And i'm saying that as one of the biggest varus advocates there is. > > This would be a large buff but it wouldn't be comparable to purple side lethality varus before itemization nerfs, dragon reworks and his Q > change. vayne isn't any form of s tier kog isn't any form of s tier kaisa's only picked because of how safe she can be bruh just go look at some stats there's like 10 websites and bring everything into perspective
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:46:09.082+0000) > > he doesn't need buffing and you dont needa correct grammar :D! It's not a question of whether or not he needs to be buffed so much as weather it would be a healthy positive change for the game. There is also a concern of whether or not it would break the game. Yes, it would be a healthy change for reasons already listed. No, it would not break the game or even make him a top tier adc. And the final nail in the coffin, It might even give varus a little more exposure and that would be good for viewership. :)
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:54:22.649+0000) > > It's not a question of whether or not he needs to be buffed so much as weather it would be a healthy positive change for the game. > > There is also a concern of whether or not it would break the game. > > Yes, it would be a healthy change for reasons already listed. > > No, it would not break the game or even make him a top tier adc. > > And the final nail in the coffin, It might even give varus a little more exposure and that would be good for viewership. > > :) it'd be one of the most toxic changes of this patch because varus would become s+ tier and pick or ban i don't think you understand the strengths of varus kit and what he already provides to a team so i don't really think you should be proposing gamebreaking changes to his kit lol review every other changes then propose changes based on actual statistics not "buff this champ so u get viewers rito" cause no one comes to twitch to watch varus gameplay lol
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:40:21.901+0000) > > it's a terrible suggestion i dont know what else the boards could say If you can't come up with an argument for why this is a terrible suggestion, despite being adverse to it and disposed TO argue against it, you must not be able to come up with any ideas. Is it really so fault - proof that it can't be criticized? Great! It is an excellent idea and should be implemented. Don't* btw
> [{quoted}](name=AlphaM Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=v1XxpR5g,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:41:41.259+0000) > > If you can't come up with an argument for why this is a terrible suggestion, despite being adverse to it and disposed TO argue against it, you must not be able to come up with any ideas. Is it really so fault - proof that it can't be criticized? Great! It is an excellent idea and should be implemented. > > Don't* btw he doesn't need buffing and you dont needa correct grammar :D! you don't need to do anything extra to get the perks of it so it just makes it overloading him for no reason he can still be rewarded for using it single target you aren't erasing any benefit while giving him more, overloading a champ 4 no reason is a bad idea there u go bye
: Varus ult is often used as a single target cc
it's a terrible suggestion i dont know what else the boards could say
: *I had to log in to get this data* {{champion:17}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:113}} All top :^)
> [{quoted}](name=ZenithEevee,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fM80f70f,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-07-18T17:10:14.376+0000) > > *I had to log in to get this data* > {{champion:17}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:113}} > All top :^) What do you run on Sej top? I play her a bit mid and top Mine's usually like {{item:3068}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3083}}
: Is this a problem for anybody else?
You can get loot boxes from getting S's on champions you haven't already gotten an S on yet
Rioter Comments
: ARAM BUG IVERN
Yeah I experienced it too, wherever Ivern placed a bush it'd remain there after vanishing then create some like shadow vision kinda thing
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YX1irrT8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-17T23:24:42.991+0000) > > Aatrox was always designed around being a drain tank/life steal champion though Finaly, someone else to stop the flood of these kind of posts. Especially from people who have not **one** Aatrox game on their profile.
> [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YX1irrT8,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-17T23:27:13.156+0000) > > Finaly, someone else to stop the flood of these kind of posts. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Removing Aatrox revive is removing his core idea
Aatrox was always designed around being a drain tank/life steal champion though
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x0HevyM4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T23:14:45.339+0000) > > Calm down, it's being fixed lol Lol no. Riot has made horrible choices for years and now they all compile into this shit fest.
> [{quoted}](name=Düff McWhalen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x0HevyM4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T23:17:12.478+0000) > > Lol no. Riot has made horrible choices for years and now they all compile into this shit fest. They've generally been okay when it comes to bugs and such, there's only like 2/3 champions that have been notoriously buggy and they're reworking them as they're outdated. I don't really like jumping on a bandwagon of hate when they've been consistent in that area, hate the changes sure but for a free to play game they're doing outstanding with bug management and anti-cheat {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Saxmara (EUNE)
: ELECTROCUTE DOESNT WORK!!!
Calm down, it's being fixed lol
Jahseh (NA)
: Manaflow band broken on Zilean
Manaflow is broken on every champion, not just Zilean
: Qiyana missing from BLIND DRAFT?
She's been disabled because of bugs, check the ! ping in the top right on the website here or go to the client and it's on top left
: What completely bogus things have you seen on the new Death Recap?
Akali hit me for 42 damage with master Yi's passive lol
: [Gameplay] Swain not activating manaflow band with pass-through Q.
It's not Swain's that broken it's the mana rune which is broken for every champ
Crocele (NA)
: does any champion use conditioning?
Conditionally Sejuani, maybe Mundo?
: No RP win/lose after matches.
: Reform development team
Uhh, don't know? Become the CEO of Riot I suppose
Zyorhist (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vuOcuAoy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:41:38.129+0000) > > I used to be stuck in silver for quite sometime until I started watching LS (Nick) > > He's made tutorials and tells you how to manage your waves while telling you how you're being an idiot, went from S4 to D2 on EUW because of that mans Do you have a link
> [{quoted}](name=Zyorhist,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=vuOcuAoy,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T18:24:01.884+0000) > > Do you have a link https://www.youtube.com/user/lastshadow9 His videos are pretty lengthy, just look at some of the coaching sessions he's done and you'll pick up from what he's saying
Fazazer (NA)
: Teleport Spell doesn't teleport but activates cooldown if tower is destroyed.
That is the mechanic of the spell. has been since teleport first existed
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=M9WbselZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:20:23.868+0000) > > Aatrox's identity was never in reviving, it was being a life-steal/drain-tank > Sylas just got a (2 SECOND MAGIC IMMUNITY) on his E, can literally steal everyone's ultimate lol > > Fizz buff and Renek are stupid though It's a magic resist shield. It's worse than a regular shield, completely ineffective in top. New Aatrox's identity to me was his revive, in a way it showed the theme of how he "never dies"
> [{quoted}](name=Lushsmoke,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=M9WbselZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T16:22:56.531+0000) > > It's a magic resist shield. It's worse than a regular shield, completely ineffective in top. > > New Aatrox's identity to me was his revive, in a way it showed the theme of how he "never dies" Sylas was designed for mid tho
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yQEAgYvd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:52:52.086+0000) > > As someone from EUW I've literally moved to NA because of how shithole toxic the community is over there, plz dont jebait this Aw sorry. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
> [{quoted}](name=WyvernEgg,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yQEAgYvd,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:54:53.991+0000) > > Aw sorry. Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
: EU > NA
As someone from EUW I've literally moved to NA because of how shithole toxic the community is over there, plz dont jebait this
: Annie infinite Stun // Morde Q in ult
They've already both been disabled for bug-fixing, look in the top right for the yellow !
Zyorhist (NA)
: Looking to improve
I used to be stuck in silver for quite sometime until I started watching LS (Nick) He's made tutorials and tells you how to manage your waves while telling you how you're being an idiot, went from S4 to D2 on EUW because of that mans
: INT/GRIEF/Trolls
Ehh not really the post is still relatively pointless, the boards can't do anything to help you other than talk to you, just submit your requests to Riot support instead of getting upset over someone telling you the rules {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: patch 9.14 Bugs so far
I just went into practice tool with Swain and his E was fine with me - though someone else reported it, do you have anyway to successfully repeat it being invisible?
: Since league is all about movement! "lets buff hard cc then take away electrocute's proc!"
Most mobility champions are S tier right now, who do you think is bad? {{champion:91}} {{champion:141}} Both King's in their respective lanes lol
: You've been disconnected from chat...
They've already said it's down for maintenance, just click on the yellow ! on the top right or top left in the client to see what's going on
: [Annie stun bug] and [client friends not connecting bug]
Annie's already been disabled for bug-fixing and the chat's down for maintenance because Riot's a small indie company Just click the yellow ! next to your username up top
Jóę (EUW)
: annie stacks bug
Annie has already been disabled while she's being fixed, this is also the teamfight tactics bug report section
Wda04 (NA)
: 9.14 so buggy
Yes, everyone is experiencing the same issues as indicated by the yellow "!" in the top left, just give them an hour or so to ice everything out
NoxianPoro (EUNE)
: Swain e visual bug and other glitches
Just relaunch your client or file-check it, I'm not having the same issue
Nazgul10 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=nJP5BAQK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:22:22.201+0000) > > She's already disabled and she's only been "broken" for like 10 minutes, so don't make it a "when will you" when they're already working on it lol It's kind of sad though. 3 damn champions went to live servers with completely game breaking bugs on them. How did this even happen?
> [{quoted}](name=Nazgul10,realm=EUNE,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=nJP5BAQK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:23:46.385+0000) > > It's kind of sad though. 3 damn champions went to live servers with completely game breaking bugs on them. How did this even happen? I don't know how it went through I just dislike the attitude of flaming riot for being slow when they disabled her within seconds of her being broken lol Best guess; they changed too many variables and forgot and overlooked some things, 30 champions directly effected this patch
Moaning (NA)
: Game Breaking Annie Bug (Passive Stun)
Annie's been disabled for bug-fixing http://prntscr.com/ogcyco
: Annie BUG STUN
She's already disabled and she's only been "broken" for like 10 minutes, so don't make it a "when will you" when they're already working on it lol
: HIre new people on the balance team.
Aatrox's identity was never in reviving, it was being a life-steal/drain-tank Sylas just got a (2 SECOND MAGIC IMMUNITY) on his E, can literally steal everyone's ultimate lol Fizz buff and Renek are stupid though
: > [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rnMEo5E9,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-16T22:34:58.642+0000) > > It's not that they're doing worse it's just that when you're behind in the jungle now you cannot come back into your JG Lol, innocent you. Probably didn't play when this BS XP catch up mechanic wasn't around.
> [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rnMEo5E9,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-07-16T23:53:17.586+0000) > > Lol, innocent you. Probably didn't play when this BS XP catch up mechanic wasn't around. I have played since season 1 lol
: Well it is the stupid decisions which cause them to fall behind. Invading while their own camps exist, Not ganking top lane despite the top laner freezeing the wave, Ganking bot because the 'dragon is important' but taking no dragons, and the worst of the lot, The afk farmer who isn't playing either of Karthus or Nasus. These things existed in the past season but such mistakes are punished way harder in s9.
> [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rnMEo5E9,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-16T22:37:07.096+0000) > > Well it is the stupid decisions which cause them to fall behind. > > Invading while their own camps exist, > Not ganking top lane despite the top laner freezeing the wave, > Ganking bot because the 'dragon is important' but taking no dragons, > > and the worst of the lot, > The afk farmer who isn't playing either of Karthus or Nasus. > > These things existed in the past season but such mistakes are punished way harder in s9. Everyone makes stupid choices though it's just super impactful when you do it in the JG Die Mid as Akali until you're 0/5 and you can still kill your laner and farm, die in the JG and all your shit is gone lol
: Is it just me or is the skill level of the average jungler much lower than what it used to be?
It's not that they're doing worse it's just that when you're behind in the jungle now you cannot come back into your JG Lane losing? You've lost that part of your JG eg; Gromp if bot is losing, Krugs if top is losing You died? All your JG is gone and you just have to eat shit and gank
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Pyrosan

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