munler (NA)
: Plat 4 Support/mid main LFT for clash
If you're still looking for team, HMU on the client.
: It's getting annoying af to see nothing but Xayah & Kai'Sa in literally every game in Worlds
Welcome to High Elo Botlane meta, where anything other than Xayah or Kai'sa is hard trolling.
HàrrowR (EUW)
: Why do you even play immobile ADCs
The main reason why I play immobile ADC's is that I am just better at playing and find immobile ADC's to just be better ADC's right now. I have never like playing Kai'sa, Lucian, Ezreal and I have always played Varus, Jinx, and Twitch to surprising amounts of effectiveness. I think the main reason why a lot of people have trouble on immobile ADC's is that they are too used to not getting punished by enemies when they have some sort of escape like a dash. On Jinx, Varus, Twitch etc. you really have to believe in the amount of damage you do, and play pretty passively until you get your chances. You can't really just walk in and fight, you have to be very selective about where you are and paying attention constantly to where enemies that can kill you are. That's why you sometimes see ADC's who seem like they are playing way too back in teamfights. It's because they are still thinking about the jungler who might flank and kill them if they aren't far away... Or maybe I'm just scared and bad. Idrk tbh.
: Dear Riot: So about those Warwick bugs.
I'm glad that it's not only my ears that got nuked by WW death sound.
Vexilus (NA)
: The Viability of a 1 Summoner Spell limit and the Improvement of Summoner spells
This is a great idea, but I don't think adding more summoners would be very beneficial. A lot of the ones you added are honestly not useful (Why take Airburst over Flash, Why take Abscond over Ghost). Buffing the ones we never see in play like cleanse or ghost while keeping the others in check is not only more familiar to every player, but it's also easier to balance. I really like your idea for smite. The only thing I think would be a negative is that everyone can buy one and help smite objectives, so we might see 5 smites in play for both sides. Maybe that's what you want, but personally I think maybe moving junglers toward healthier clears and making so smite is added with the enchantment is the best call. That makes it an investment to buy the smite item rather than anyone with extra gold picking it up for some health or objective control.
: elophant I believe has a way to look at all the skins you own
No longer works with new client last time I checked.
: She can say whatever she wants about it if the OP is a minor. Everything you just posted is what is wrong with the world today. If it were my mom, she would sell the computer and keep the money and there wouldn't be a thing I could do about it. No, that isn't being harsh. That is being a parent.
Sxoda (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=1wolfpack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w6ncRjNI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-07-08T23:51:15.606+0000) > > "fall ahead or pull ahead" > Im asking cause I read ur original post and am not sure if it was a mistake or I just have poor English skills. Not sure what you mean by pull ahead
"Fall ahead" sounds quite weird. When you say fall, you assume you went down and therefore, fell behind the enemy. It would have been better to say "I get ahead".
: I agree that's something that would need to be taken into account. You could draw an analogy to poker in that sometimes you just get duece/seven off-suite. It sucks but there's still really good poker players. Also, it would be the same for the enemy team so therefore it would be fair. Or the champion's stats/scaling could be balanced so that a marksman with 70% accuracy would only be expected to hit 70% of last hits and get his items a bit later. There's lots of ways to deal with this tbh.
It's not about accounting for it. It's about how the player would feel about it. It's frustrating on it's own to lose CS as it is but thats due to your own skill. Losing cs due to RNG just feels really bad and annoying.
: Why an "Accuracy" stat would be an interesting addition to League & how it would help balance [Long]
Imagine this: You're farming and a cannon minion comes up. You go to last hit the cannon. Miss. It dies. Do you know how unfun that would be? Lose farm and kills because of RNG like that.
Galiö (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Qukslice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Favf4jnZ,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-07-03T06:23:44.993+0000) > > Please do Swain!!! Morello and don't get close. He can't do anything if u don't get close.
Now thats not a very good tip, is it? If I cant even get close, I'm fucked with any melee champ. Plus morello requires me to be able to burst him down to the point where greivous wounds can take effect. I'd be better of getting an exe at that point.
: TIL that minions in beta looked better
The bigger minions are, the more screen is taken up. I'd rather be able to see my enemies clearly when they decide they want to live with their mage/archer minions. Plus, I think the minions have a certain style to them that makes them seem... cute? (Kinda hard to describe the feeling)
: Thinking of startin a "How to Beat" series for frustrating champions.
: adc in 2k17 no longer applies tbh considering cait and xayah
adc in 2k17 except for cait/draven/twitch. Doesn't have the same ring though.
Korios (EUNE)
: So... do all Darkins have double "a" on their names?
Maybe Varus only has one A because he's not fully corrupted yet. Hmmmmmmm
: change kog'maw E for pete sake
His E is better than his passive. If you die at the max of W range, you're never gonna ever hit passive.
Red Silk (NA)
: Mrw Im a yas main and I hear about a mini-rework...
Honestly, I feel bad for Yas mains. Yas isn't broken(watch as I get slammed for saying that). Yas is all about opportunities. Ever since 10 bans, banned almost 6 out of 10 games. That sucks, especially when you put so much time into a champ. Everyone bans him because of memes and random hatred. Now, a mini rework. Just so they can try to help yas. It won't work but they tried at least.
Paroe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ńø Çígâr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HPdI9Ivs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-30T22:07:47.447+0000) > > Yeah, literally the start of this season ADC was trash. Lolno. They werent, it was just a meme because of how strong assassins were. Marksman are the strongest theyve ever been. @thread Pre-crit marksman werent super strong but at no point in the games competitive history has marksman never been mandatory. Long story short, ADC mains cried about how they couldnt kill things as fast as 1000AP mages and that tanks wouldnt die very fast to them. In response to their crying, riot created crit. Crit turned out to be so toxic dodge was created as a direct counter, but crit proved to be the lesser of two evils and thus stayed.
Ummmm. Assassians made ADC shit. It was unrewarding and unfun to play when you just got consistently four man dived for only your tower and dragon. It didn't even matter if you got fed as ADC because Zed or Wukong would literally fuck you into the next dimension, making you useless. Personally, I think Crit is in a good spot. People just hate the RNG aspect of it. I do too. You can still counter it though. Randuin's omen and Frozen Heart basically make crit a useless stat if you buy them and since GA now gives armor, even other ADC's can sorta kinda be protected. Dodge was removed because it was cancerous as fuck and probably 10x more cancerous than crit. Imagine being about to kill somone just for their 1% dodge to come in and save their ass. Plus, dodge affects every champ. Everyone autos. Dodge was literally a god stat. (I never played with dodge so honestly I have no clue how it played. Don't take most of the bottom paragraph seriously unless I made some good points in which case please do take it seriously. It was based on speculation.)
: when is Riot going to realize Garen is the weakest champion in high elo
Garen is pretty shit but why do you have to be so agressive to most of the playerbase? The game isn't only about you and what you want to happen. Sadly enough, some Garens can actually do decent in my ELO and I don't want or need Garen to be running around one shoting me because his laner fed him and he got damage buffs. Anyways, Honestly, what Garen needs is to get rid of his ult and get rid of his w. His Ult is just a shit ton of hidden power that you can never really expect especially when you're the villian. Not to mention that "the villian" sounds like Riot asked a person with mental disorder to name Garen's passive. His W is just a button you press. It feels like it does nothing while it does a shit ton in the background, once again bringing in hidden power. 30% of all damage taken is a lot and that includes true damage. Plus, 30 free resistances when he kills 120 minions. It's fine to make a noob friendly character but they also have to be at the very least playable at higher tiers (A.K.A Warwick).
: For how strong Xayah's DPS is, the burst on her E is pretty ridiculous
Funny how while you guys have been complaining about about Xayah, I've beat every Xayah I laned as an ADC main. You'd think that a dumb Silver 2 would've had no chance in hell of beating an "OP, Overtuned, Overloaded pile of shit" but here I am. I wonder why?
: The College Championship Bracket is Set!
I wish we could see Team Rosters. I kinda wanna know what the average rank for the college's that got in are.
: Disappointing shop skins.
I got a lot of good skins that I really want but no RP to buy them. Actually makes me really sad. I got: Dragonslayer Vayne(which is decent but I already have arclight) PickPocket Twitch (also decent but I have SSW) Bloodmoon Jhin(Only 540 RP too) Cosmic Reaver Kass(Because Kass is busted as fuck) Mecha Kog'Maw (good skin even if it's not as good as Pug'Maw) and finally Earnest Elf Trist (which is only 260 RP and yet still legendary) I'm an ADC main and I play a lot of Kass too. ᴾᶫᵉᵃˢᵉ ˢᵉᶰᵈ ᴰᵒᶰᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰˢ
: No. Because the ADC is a glass cannon. Jayce can easily kill glass cannons in 1 combo. And adcs are almost always gonna be 2 levels behind the top/mid laners duo to having to share the exp with their support. The thing was, was Rakan could charm, heal, shield, then after all those are off, I go to engage the Xayah and she ults being untargetable.
Maybe you shouldn't be 2v1ing then?
: Jarvan's lance origins; Demacian conspiracy?
Darkin Demacia DOUBLE D's!!! Darkin is Demacia corrupted confirmed.
k wìx (NA)
: {{champion:99}} I believe Lux is in an awesome spot, fills that Ranged Nuker role very well. She has very defined strengths and weaknesses, and her scaling is on point. {{champion:254}} Great engage tools, counterable, and not too absurd on the burst. she's exactly what i think of when the term 'bruiser' comes to mind. {{champion:15}} Really, really well balanced ADC here - she is surprisingly versatile and defensive, with some amazing late game potential. {{champion:74}} Potent but balanced. His burst is extreme but his shots and skills are tough to line up and he's super vulnerable. I think he's one of the better balanced mages currently. {{champion:201}} Super well balanced. Great use of CC - hits the sweet spot between 'too tanky' and 'not tanky'. Not overbearing. You know where you stand and how fucked you are with Braum. It never feels unfair when you get control'd. {{champion:26}} My personal main - I love the Z-Train. He's terrifying in good hands, and has a pretty high skill cap. He mixes an excellent slice of burst, control, and area denial. His weakness is simply mobility. He really can't deal with the likes of 'mobility' kits. His bomb stun and remake were handled fantastically. Don't change a thing, Riot! {{champion:498}} Call me crazy, and I know its early, but man - her Kit is fantastic, she is one of the best new designs out of riot in a long time. Her burst is nuts, but the setup for it is rough.
Tbh, I think Sivir is actually under powered in most curcumstances. All she does that is particularly niche for her is team speed buff which is meh if your team isn't able to capitalize it and she's basically lost the "I clear huge waves in 3 autos" identity she had because Xayah not exists. All she needs to do is chuck feathers and then bring them back and she chunks the wave.
: I'm afraid that this will happen: Patch 7.9: Mid-season Update; no extra balance changes. Patch 7.10: It's too early to make any assessments, still working through the data. Patch 7.11: Graves and Lee Sin have fallen in popularity. This might be a sign that the mid-season affected them negatively. Patch 7.12: Graves and Lee Sin have fallen off the radar. Patch 7.13: The community cries about nerfing Lee Sin and Graves now and again but the Rage Train has become a Rage Bobby Cart so it gets ignored. Patch 7.14: The community attaches this annoying horn to the bobby cart so someone agrees to look at Lee Sin and Graves. Patch 7.15: Still looking. Patch 7.16: The verdict is that Lee Sin and Graves are too strong at the moment. They both get Shyvanna-level mini-updates on the PBE and weird new gimmicks. Patch 7.17: After community backlash, the changes are reverted. New changes are promised, but they couldn't meet the deadline so they'll have to wait until the next patch. Patch 7.18: -3 AD. ... Patch 7.20: Some tournament is coming up so Lee Sin's ult now also reduces enemies' Armor by 15/20/25% for 6 seconds. Graves' ult stuns the first enemy it hits. Both get +10% to their AD ratios.
They mini-reworked Lee and Graves and yet, people complained about it. What do you want Riot to do if they can't change without getting backlash but can't not change without getting backlash?
Skylarke (EUW)
: [Champion Concept] Lyra, the Mechanical Curator
I'm worried that it's stepping a little bit too close to Quinn's fantasy. I look at her and I see Quinn through and through. There isn't much that distinquishes her from Vel'koz in terms of research or Quinn with the bird thing. I do think it would be cool if they were tied together in a way. Maybe they are sisters where Quinn was on the more militaristic side and Lyra was more of a researcher. Explains the bird connection. Still, she needs a new identity. Maybe more of an archeologist than an actual researcher (What is she actually researching anyway?)
: Legacy Client Now Retired
Is anyone else having issues with the client not properly showing IP? It says in-client that I have 6300+ IP but I can't buy any 6300 champions.
Rioter Comments
: I find it amusing when Riot specifically comes out with elaborate articles addressing things like this when we all know you know whats wrong with the client because you have testers that work for Riot. You know like the players know, that this client is, lets be real, piss-poor. It's even to the point where people CANNOT even play the game because of it. And I'm not just referring to people with toasters or low spec laptops. I've tested the alpha beta bs client on multiple desktops and laptops and it is uhhhh, well I strongly prefer the smoothness of the legacy client. The legacy client itself was actually just getting good. This is coming from someone who's played since the beginning. The legacy client was not always the best and I honestly can admit that it took years for the legacy client to even be what it is today. To just scrap it for some half-assed polished pos is bogus. I get it tho, deadlines and manpower. Why keep working on 2 clients when you can focus on one, It's clear the new client needs attention, that is why I'm guessing you are scrapping the obviously better optimized legacy client. But the reality is as the players, we have no real say and we do understand that you aren't concerned with us as much as you lead other people to believe. I've seen a real shift in company/player relationships since around Season 3/4. Bottom line is you're worried about your bottom line. Which is understandable because it is a free game so I appreciate what you do, I just wish you were more honest, straight up and transparent with your community. This is really starting to feel like a dictatorship. I no longer fall for the illusion that you really care about all of the community because you are definitely catering to e-sports and people with high-end computers. It's fine tho. All companies shift once they see that money, respect and attention coming in. League of Legends is the only MOBA like it so you pretty much have that going for you right now. Once that is factored out and LoL becomes stale and old, remember the reasons that happened were entirely your fault and not the fault of your loyal playerbase. I'm excited to see where League is going, it really has come a long way but again, work on your honesty because you've blatantly lied in the past and have done it here. Usually I would say I dont mind a company changing their mind about something but you basically don't even change your mind... You say one thing and do another knowing that we are just going to accept it. Thats Love. P.S. Ignoring real issues by saying "Enable Low-Spec Mode" isn't fixing anything. The client is laggy, unresponsive, crashes, etc. BUT yall already know that lmao This has become a pointless conversation at this point as your responses have become predictable while offering no _real_ solutions.
Probably gonna get downvoted to shit because of this but meh. > I find it amusing when Riot specifically comes out with elaborate articles addressing things like this when we all know you know whats wrong with the client because you have testers that work for Riot. You know like the players know, that this client is, lets be real, piss-poor. I actually prefer the New Client to the Old Client. It looks better, will do (and already does) many more things than the old client, and pushes league to be more creative. It's just a matter of opinion. > It's even to the point where people CANNOT even play the game because of it. And I'm not just referring to people with toasters or low spec laptops. I've tested the alpha beta bs client on multiple desktops and laptops and it is uhhhh, well I strongly prefer the smoothness of the legacy client. Honestly, and I don't mean to be mean or rude or anything but, people who aren't able to even play league just because of the new client should really upgrade their computer. It's stupid to think the Riot would purposely inhibit their ability to create and improve League because somebody out there doesn't have a computer that is able to run League. Technology moves forward and leaves behind anyone who doesn't come with it. > The legacy client itself was actually just getting good. What? Did you mean it was getting better? If so, that's bullshit. > This is coming from someone who's played since the beginning. The legacy client was not always the best and I honestly can admit that it took years for the legacy client to even be what it is today. To just scrap it for some half-assed polished pos is bogus. I don't even understand your view here. You're saying that the Legacy Client isn't the best the client and that it needs some improvement and then you're saying that the New and Improved client is a piece of shit. Choose what you want. Either the legacy client but made better (which still won't do anything because one of the major reasons that the old client is being scrapped is due to constraints caused by the client) or a different but better new type of client (Which still doesn't make sense because the New client right now still is being built to be better, stronger, faster, and harder). > I get it tho, deadlines and manpower. Why keep working on 2 clients when you can focus on one, It's clear the new client needs attention, that is why I'm guessing you are scrapping the obviously better optimized legacy client. Nope. It's being scrapped because it was built with outdated technology that constrained the creativity and features that Riot wants to introduce. There's no point in having two clients anyway. Why would anyone want to maintain an old, outdated, 6 year old client when a fresh new, state of the art client is literally waiting to be built completely. > But the reality is as the players, we have no real say and we do understand that you aren't concerned with us as much as you lead other people to believe. I've seen a real shift in company/player relationships since around Season 3/4. Maybe because every player never seems satisfied with what Riot offers and instead yells and screams at them about everything that goes wrong (or what they think went wrong). Like seriously, if you want something to happen, you don't insult the shit out of them. > Bottom line is you're worried about your bottom line. Which is understandable because it is a free game so I appreciate what you do, I just wish you were more honest, straight up and transparent with your community. This is really starting to feel like a dictatorship. It sorta is their game. Sure, they take player feedback into account, but players haven't had the huge amount of sway that they believe they have. >I no longer fall for the illusion that you really care about all of the community because you are definitely catering to e-sports and people with high-end computers. It's fine tho. All companies shift once they see that money, respect and attention coming in. I don't see how Riot is catering to people with high-end computers. If they were catering to high-end, they would make the actual game much more graphics intensive. Believe it or not, you're not the only person who plays this game. Just because Riot tries to incorporate every demographic into it's decision doesn't mean you're being looked over. > League of Legends is the only MOBA like it so you pretty much have that going for you right now. Once that is factored out and LoL becomes stale and old, remember the reasons that happened were entirely your fault and not the fault of your loyal playerbase. This is the exact reason why League won't become stale and old. They changed things to make it better and to add new features for the playerbase and now the playerbase is coming back and saying that everything should stay the way it was before. The Legacy client was 6 years old. It was made in Beta phase with minimal technology. Wouldn't you consider that stale and old? I would. Let's face it, the only reason people want the client to stay the same isn't because of lag issues (for the most part), it's because some people don't want League to change it's style. > I'm excited to see where League is going, it really has come a long way but again, work on your honesty because you've blatantly lied in the past and have done it here. Usually I would say I dont mind a company changing their mind about something but you basically don't even change your mind... You say one thing and do another knowing that we are just going to accept it. Thats Love. Curious to see when this happened. Too bad you didn't leave any examples. For now though, I'mma call it all bullshit. > P.S. Ignoring real issues by saying "Enable Low-Spec Mode" isn't fixing anything. The client is laggy, unresponsive, crashes, etc. BUT yall already know that lmao This has become a pointless conversation at this point as your responses have become predictable while offering no real solutions. Low-Spec mode is the solution. Low-Spec was literally made for people with low-spec computers. I have two computers. One that uses Low-Spec and one the doesn't. Both run the Client completely fine, with no lag and rarely any crashes. Maybe you shouldn't be using your limited experience to attempt to generalize everyones experience.
: I might be jumping the gun here but is this legit?
I kinda wanna see a mordekaiser with spiked fists for weapons.
Niyumi (NA)
: Compared to bullshit like ADCs, Yasuo, Yi and the like? Absolutely weak. Yet, instead of nerfing the drain tank one shot gods, we nerf Camille, Galio, Taliyah, Sol and so on.
> Compared to bullshit like **ADCs**, Yasuo, Yi and the like? https://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/050b3d97315779571458ebcbed3db4b6f8e38-wm.jpg?v=3
Reletr (NA)
: Nope, I see it, under the Varus. It's called team fights, there's a lot of crazy stuff
Leonerdo (NA)
: How are people not tired of "My shitty teams keep me from climbing" threads?
Sometimes it feels like it tbh. I try my hardest to jungle to my potential every game but when every lane is losing and I'm playing warwick, I want to die.
: @Riot For how long are you going to keep ignoring Sona?
Just because Urgot or Evelynn or whoever is played at high Elo doesn't invalidate their chances for a full VGU. Urgot might be played but his lore is an incoherent mess and his textures are as old as the game.
JuhnChan (NA)
: In an ideal situation where he doesn't get instantly bursted down, yes. In this "everything kills everything in 1.58 seconds" meta, very often no. Especially because his basic healing doesn't kick in until he's already half dead. Get stunned once without your E on and I guarantee you will die. Sometimes it's hard for *me* to activate it in time. I don't expect our friend Lapis would be able to. Conditional tankiness, when in slow hands, may as well not be tankiness at all in this case.
Early game that might be the case but I find when you build him semi-tanky he can become very tanky mid to late game ish. Of course, not fed sion levels of tank, but tanky enough to withstand a couple champs worth of damage.
Νichirin (EUNE)
: Pick a champion quote and add after "in my ass."
: Then we go back to {{champion:29}} {{champion:51}} being God Tier ADCs while every1 else is sub par.
I'm willing the bet we're gonna see a lot more Vayne if tank meta happens.
: "normal"? what ADC did i leave out? Vayne? Lucian (a caster)? Bro ADC isnt weak anymore.. you are like 3 patches behind.
Lethality is what made those adc's broken. What happens when it's nerfed? Varus and Mf are both mostly fucked and the rest have to go back to crit and AD to do damage. They might live longer sure, but they won't do anywhere close to what they did before especially with the new tank meta developing.
: > Support is weak in general right now because ADCs are pretty weak Yeah we are weak..{{champion:21}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:51}}
Normal "Adcs" per say are weak. Ad Casters in adc aren't.
: Which skin is your absolute favorite in the game?
Infernal Nasus.. Smoke weed everyday.
: 1. Every champion's positioning is important. But Lee's not that much because he's so mobile he has no problem getting out of his bad position. 2. You mean the insane base stats, shield, not having mana nor high CDs and free lifesteal jungling? Wow so hard. 3. See points above + when he misses his Q, his MVS just lets him walk to the target, because it's so damn high. 4. If you miss your Q in ward -> W -> R -> Q -> Q, you should probably not even log in on Boards to comment about champion difficulties.
So if Lee Sin is the god of all things holy, why don't we see him win in every game? According to Champion.gg, Lee Sin is sitting at a 49.3% win rate and a 27.64% playrate and only makes it to positive winrates after 15 to 50 games. For a hyper mobile, reliable, easy jungling, basically noob proof jungler, Lee Sin seems like a difficullt champion at many different skill levels. How about you post some actual facts supported by actual evidence from websites and the like? Not hard to google some stats and base your arguements off of there. Especially since not everyone who plays Lee is a combo stringing god.
: AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Seriously, you are trolling now. This conversation ended, you have no interest in getting a solution, Azir is the hardest champion in the game without doubt and you clearly did never even touch Zyra, otherwise you would know how unforgiving she is. But what to expect from a Garen player :')
His combo isn't the only thing that could make him difficult. What about positioning? What about jungling? What about ganking lanes well? Not to mention, his real damage would come from his q. If he misses his q, he's missing out on basically half of his damage.
: Varus Jhin or Jhin Varus.
Good thing Jinx is just gonna fly right under the radar. Hehe
: The enemy fiora is 1v5ing in our base at level 12
: Forget MF or Jhin , the most abusive case of lethality from range has to be ...
: The Number Game (Imported from Oceana?)
: So what exactly makes Koreans so much better at the game?
I'd boil it down to two reasons. 1. The Culture South Korean culture towards professional gaming is much more embracing than almost all western cultures. It's basically promoted and taken very seriously (So much so that laws were actually passed that make it illegal to cheat). Kids play more games and play them more seriously. When they mature, you get players like Faker. 2. Internet Access and Speed Internet is a lot better in South Korea than in most Western countries. Better internet means better game experience which means better players.
: >The thing is that assassians aren't really causing the problem (at least for me it isn't). Often times, I'm getting 1v1'd by tanks like naut and I lose. u shouldnt 1v1 a tank in first place. why are u in 1v1 situation ? > Simply put, thornmail fucks my lifesteal and then his base damage comes through along with his bullshit shields and his perma cc. f*ck this item... but {{item:3072}} counter thornmail
> u shouldnt 1v1 a tank in first place. why are u in 1v1 situation ? It's just a scenario. Many things can happen in a game that can lead to a 1v1. > f*ck this item... but {{item:3072}} counter thornmail Thornmail still hurts it's lifesteal though. Sure the shield is nice but more likely than not (I haven't tested it yet), you won't be lifestealing (or you'll lifesteal negligible amounts) with BT as the only lifesteal item. Add a sunfire on top of that and the shield quickly goes down the drain if the ADC wanted to trade with the tank.
: princesses will always cry{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
The thing is that assassians aren't really causing the problem (at least for me it isn't). Often times, I'm getting 1v1'd by tanks like naut and I lose. Simply put, thornmail fucks my lifesteal and then his base damage comes through along with his bullshit shields and his perma cc. Another example of this is Hecarim. Runs straight to you no problem and charges, doing 80% of your health with his combo and then spamming his q to kill you. Poppy can do this, Maokai can do this etc. etc.
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