: Riven's shield cooldown needs to be addressed
If they're not gonna nerf Spear or Conq which is what is making her too strong I'd rather have them change it from 10/9/8/7/6 second CD to like 11/10/9/8/7 and balance from there, maybe add a nother second to the CD, but she builds CDR and scales heavily off of it for combo potential... but every item in the past 3 years has loads of CDR now, plus Essence Flare being moved to an Item that gives HP just makes it super annoying to go vs her I imagine, wasn't already like she was considered toxic to go against either.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rïvêń,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QHHT6cgu,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-02-28T22:19:44.626+0000) > > Hey, I'm being civil here and looking at facts, and facts show that it's NOT just Riven that's too strong right now, sure she may be super toxic to go against, or super fun to, I've heard both of those from people, just depends on who you like to play and how much you like dealing with people who can combo you, E.G I've seen Fiora mains say the matchup is fun, but seen Sion mains say it's a shit show, which is correct. > > Toxic =/= OP 54% winrate with a 15% pick rate is definitely OP. I don't care what you say, the facts tell us otherwise.
> [{quoted}](name=Raymønd Åmantius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QHHT6cgu,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-28T23:23:05.222+0000) > > 54% winrate with a 15% pick rate is definitely OP. I don't care what you say, the facts tell us otherwise. Mate, I did not say she's not op I am saying that RIGHT NOW, there are at least 5 other toplaners that are as high winrate as Riv right now, with similar Pickrates, those champs are not op because they're just op-kitwise, they're super strong because of new Conq, Conq saw a rise in many toplaner's winrates in one patch alone, not just Riven, but if you're dead set on nerfing a champ on the basis of 54% Winrate you may as well nerf Nunu,Udyr,Jinx,Sona,Yorick,Kled,Ahri,Quinn and Sivir, throw in a Nami at 53.3% aswell. (Jinx, Nami and Sivir are also at 15% pickrate btw) Source: https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/home/ All I'm asking is to stop, and ask yourself what is broken about her, people say Animation cancels need to be removed but don't understand that her current numbers ARE balanced by the fact she can Animation Cancel, if she couldn't, her Q wouldn't be 15 damage level one, base (Used to be 5 damage before S8, when they adjusted ALL the champions early game) So if you think it's because her numbers are too high, then "Fixing" the animation cancels she's been balanced around since 2011 won't do anything but raise them. If you think it's because she does too much damage too fast early game and mid game, while being even with her? Well a majority of that comes from Conq giving her Bonus AD, increasing her damage from EVERY ability, and increasing her survivability artificially, You'll find a aggro Riven just building Spear of Sholjin because why not? Who doesn't like URF? Riven hasn't been a issue for YEARS, only reason she saw pro-play (THAT I know of) is because of a Riven main going pro (Viper I believe) Riven went from being Fairly strong at High Elo, 38% Winrate in players who are just playing her to just being super strong at all elos regardless of skill, in ONE patch, the same Patch that introduced Spear of Sholjin AND then it increased even more next patch, which is new Conq. (The 38% Winrate in new players is taken from the Tweets between a Rioter and Hashinshin about the Skill difference of Riven and Jax, which takes Riven players on average ~200-300 games to get to the same avg Winrate as Jax players with ~50 games, which was 52% at the time I believe)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rïvêń,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QHHT6cgu,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-02-26T23:34:06.831+0000) > > You can find similar winrates and PR's on a lot of toplaners who use Conqueror or Spear, everyone expected Riven to become too strong after new Conq and Spear combo... > > It's not that the champ with 49-51% WR for years is broken, it's that Riot released another broken Rune iteration and decided to keep the too strong Essence Flare. > > Edit: https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/home/ lmfao a riven main saying all this, not surprised
> [{quoted}](name=Raymønd Åmantius,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QHHT6cgu,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-02-28T21:39:15.794+0000) > > lmfao a riven main saying all this, not surprised Hey, I'm being civil here and looking at facts, and facts show that it's NOT just Riven that's too strong right now, sure she may be super toxic to go against, or super fun to, I've heard both of those from people, just depends on who you like to play and how much you like dealing with people who can combo you, E.G I've seen Fiora mains say the matchup is fun, but seen Sion mains say it's a shit show, which is correct. Toxic =/= OP
: Nerf Riven
You can find similar winrates and PR's on a lot of toplaners who use Conqueror or Spear, everyone expected Riven to become too strong after new Conq and Spear combo... It's not that the champ with 49-51% WR for years is broken, it's that Riot released another broken Rune iteration and decided to keep the too strong Essence Flare. Edit: https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/home/
: There seem to ba a pretty high number of people who do not like the direction of the last 2 Aether Wing Kayle evolutions. I understand that changing them would be impossible considering the time and effort already invested into this, but could we get the option to choose which form to use once we unlock it (Ctrl+5)? Similar to how GGMF and DJ sona choose their forms?
> [{quoted}](name=Lulu the Support,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=fBd0Atr4,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-02-21T10:20:39.281+0000) > > There seem to ba a pretty high number of people who do not like the direction of the last 2 Aether Wing Kayle evolutions. I understand that changing them would be impossible considering the time and effort already invested into this, but could we get the option to choose which form to use once we unlock it (Ctrl+5)? Similar to how GGMF and DJ sona choose their forms? Dunno why you're downvoted, It's a legendary skin and the base form is what we have currently all game on Live Servers, and I loved that skin so much it was by far my favorite, maybe being able to keep it and just having her second sword n shit still come out at level 6 if you toggled it would be nice, It looks so good but post lvl 11 it gets super bulky and weird.
: The worst part about the Kayle rework...
Meanwhile her other skins are fucking amazing https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/champion-kayle-morgana?utm_source=LeagueClient&utm_medium=OverviewTier1
: > [{quoted}](name=SitPoopyPants,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OFL6U5tL,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:47:17.013+0000) > > https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-unmasked.jpg > https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-battleborn.jpg > https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-aether-wing.jpg > I'm not asking for Riot to get rid of her helmet, but the hair she has in this rework of hers is disgusting! > https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ffixlkmb.jpg%5B%2FIMG%5D&key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&width=425 Skins aren't a part of the character itself. Not saying I dig the white hair, but I'd prioritize more armor over blonde hair any time.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OFL6U5tL,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:22:40.090+0000) > > Skins aren't a part of the character itself. > > Not saying I dig the white hair, but I'd prioritize more armor over blonde hair any time. Quite positive the first skin at the top he posted is literally just "Unmasked Kayle" as in, that's what her hair is normally suppose to look like under the helm though, I am interested in how they change it however.

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