Vekkna (NA)
: I wasn't soliciting opinions on champions that I hate. Sorry, but I don't really care if you agree with my totally subjective, 100% anecdotal point of view. The goal of my post is to say that when the champs I listed (amongst others) are **strong** you feel like you're being cheesed. Even a lot of champs with reasonable win rates feel like absolute cancer to play against, even when you win, and Yasuo and Zed are great examples of that. My entire point is that of all the major balance issues in the game right now, Sona is one of the few that doesn't directly translate to me having a miserable fucking experience playing against her. I can see her. I can punish her. I can kill her. It's not like WW where he runs you down at 600 MS and kills you with a suppress into a fear while healing off the turret damage. While being immune to peel and following you automatically when you flash. So if I have to choose between a 50% WR Warwick pulling that fucking bullshit and a 56% WR Sona that dies to any pick, I pick the overpowered Sona because she's more fun to have in the game. If she assassinates me, I can always say "well, at least she didn't have 4000 hp." To clarify, I'm not biased for or against Sona. I don't have a vested interest in whether she's strong because I feed on her no matter how strong she is, and I don't play her much anyway.
The problem with Sona's kit is something we're going to soon see with Zoe, Orianna, and every other mage with an empowered Auto Attack. Sheen/Lich Bane. After getting 1050 gold (or less in some cases), her Q poke was literally a triplicate hit that, under the new system, equated to half your health at level 4. Zoe can do that too, in two ways if you're good with her Q. When you couple that with Sona's ability to make carries faster (E), and braindead heal/shield (W), she has to sacrifice something somewhere. They are overdoing it, but I sense that it's not because of Sona herself, but something that's going to change 8.1 with the runes.
Akaash (NA)
: Zoe support significantly stronger on blue side than purple side.
Having seen a level 6 Zoe Q - R - Flash(W) - Flash(F/D) - Q Cruise Missile 100-0 a full health ADC and vanish back to where her R started, I will say that she's overtuned. But we accept the map as fair. The advantages are flipped when you lane swap anyway.
: > [{quoted}](name=RAMP Schmidtty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RbYztjWI,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2017-10-27T22:38:57.582+0000) > > Against Mordekaiser/Alistar, I'm not sure what would have. > > Against a traditional lane, I couldn't say. > > Nashor's Tooth seems to be a really strong item. Popping up in all kinds of crazy builds in every role. nashors and guinsoos give the two highest amounts of attack speed of any item, and also scale really well into ap 80 and 70 ap respectively and 50% and 73% attack speed respectively So 150 ap, 123% attack speed 20% cdr double on hit nashors and guinsoos proc + whatever on hit you have passively or purchased. {{item:3153}} Doubling borks passive is strong on its own. with a lil ad to top the cake This is the reason the champs who use these items are balanced around them, such a powerful combo.
Speaking purely from opinion, Rageblade is the key to a lot of very specific "hyper-carry" types. Kayle, of course, being the poster child of Rageblade because it also double-procs her E, which is her entire kit. xD But doubling BORK is always good. How long can anyone survive taking 16% Max HP Damage + Everything else? As a "Bottom Laner", BORK is actually a fairly mandatory third purchase on almost every ADC that doesn't build it sooner. It's really strong too.
: > [{quoted}](name=RAMP Schmidtty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RbYztjWI,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-10-27T22:30:34.304+0000) > > {{champion:15}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3124}} {{item:3085}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3153}} > > I've seen that work. ^^ Recently too. i love off meta builds, buttt the question that should be asked is not what worked, but would something else have worked better?
Against Mordekaiser/Alistar, I'm not sure what would have. Against a traditional lane, I couldn't say. Nashor's Tooth seems to be a really strong item. Popping up in all kinds of crazy builds in every role.
Niyumi (NA)
: Between WoW and FFXIV...
There is this really great MMO called "Real Life" that is totally worth your time investment.
Purgë (EUW)
: Ardent canser is still cancer
{{champion:18}} with {{item:3031}} {{item:3087}} and any third completed item? Yep, good to go. Censer had nothing to do with a 3-item Tristana stomping your ass. A 3-Item Tristana is supposed to do that.
: Why does silver
Because Silver? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: PSA: Sivir Still Has a .50 Ap Ratio On Her Q
{{champion:15}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3124}} {{item:3085}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3153}} I've seen that work. ^^ Recently too.
: If I'm playing kogmaw and my support is a zed, then I'm not going to walk up for cs unless it's under my tower. I'm just not going to go in range of their engage.
If you're going to abandon your lane to free farm, you might as well roam instead of waiting to miss two out of three CS to your tower and their pressure. Reinforcing an opinion with an opinion leaves you with an opinion. There is **always** more than one way.
: I play a ton of him and don't think he's actually that difficult. Just gotta pick him into mages instead of assassins and youre good to go
Your experience doesn't exactly define all. I personally find current Ryze to be simple. QWQEQ...EQ...EQ...WQEQ... It's all about experience and what you do well as a player. As sad as it may sound, I know a person who can play Azir all day long who thinks Tristana is hard to play. The hardest champions are the ones that are both mechanically difficult for you and tactically out of your element style wise. In my case, personally, that ends up being champions like Kalista, Talon, and Fiora.
: Yeah but you know how many of us like to do things as quick as possible :P
For Higher Elo players, this mission was just three (maybe four) normal games. Sometimes there really isn't any point to rushing.
: Yeah I understand that. Can you imagine the shit they would have gotten if they had announced that Immortals wasn't going to make it right before they went 0-4 in week 2?
I think they already knew. How else can you explain the total and complete change in both play and spirit from Week 1 to Week 2?
Breaku (NA)
: they've been operating without profit and only two minor sponsors for over a year and are faced with $10mil LCS fee, $20mil OWL fee and construction costs for overwatch arena all funded by venture capitalist investments...
Immortals is owned by people who don't need capital investments to make this work. They are far, far from broke. In fact, they were booted from the LCS for making a significant investment in their Overwatch portion. The owner of Immortals is beyond wealthy enough to afford all of this without any assistance, and the fact that he is so insanely in love with e-sports makes this decision by Riot utterly self-defeating.
: Unconventional way to stop flamers (as a bystander)
My answer always ends up being, "Because it was fun." Anything they say after that is irrelevant, because I have work to do on the rift and don't have time to chat. Odds are, that if you aren't in someones headset, nothing you say to them has any meaning anyway, so why bother at all? Play the game. Play your way. Have your fun. "Life is to short to be pissed off all of the time."
: Ornn the Train Conductor
"I can suplex that train." - Sabin
Chermorg (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dragfin,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lV491jek,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-17T15:12:51.052+0000) > > Get help then. If someone kills themselves because someone told them to do so then there are bigger problems besides that. If someone continues to live their life with all these pent up feelings about suicide and are intelligent enough to acknowledge them and they don't seek help than all they want is attention. Nothing more and nothing less. Get help or follow the words of an idiot. That is the only two choices they have and coming here and whining about it is nothing more than attention seeking. I honestly don’t see how you can legitimately defend telling a stranger on the internet to kill themselves over a stupid video game.
> [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lV491jek,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-10-17T15:15:19.526+0000) > > I honestly don’t see how you can legitimately defend telling a stranger on the internet to kill themselves over a stupid video game. It is never really in defense of the action, but in the reaction of the weaklings that take the words of total strangers to heart. There is always more than one side. I do not agree with trying to injure someone with words, one way or another. However, if you are so weak of heart that the words of someone who does not matter to you can injure you so deeply, then you do need to seek someone to really talk to. Stay Frosty, Friends.
: Worlds 2017 Drinking Game.
I tried drinking 1 beer per teamfight last night. 9 beers didn't cut it.
Durzaka (NA)
: Why are ADCs in worlds starting Relic Shield?
I'll take Relic Shield for three reasons. 1. To help rush Ardent Censer Support. 2. To help feed a Carry Support like Vel'Koz, Brand, Zyra, ect. 3. Because my Support did not buy a Gold Item.
: Wrong. Apparently more think its bad than just me. It's way better to get your item first. Those champs may be "ok" but they are far better off getting their item first.
Not wrong. Kalista relies on attack speed to move. Twitch relies on attack speed to stack poison for Contaminate, which is far more deadly than any BF sword until his first full item, which should be IE. Varus can rely on AS to stack his passive and reduce cooldowns, so it is not a waste if you are forced to back before 1300. Kayle just relies on attack speed period. There are situations where speed is superior to power. There are champions that rely on it. Vayne, as well, to proc Silver Bolts. Gnar to proc Hyper. As I said, your opinions aren't really all to meaningful, especially when backed by mere supposition and the idea that your opinions should be law. There is *always* another way. Always.
: Worlds Patch: before 7.19 Current Patch: 7.19 Things have already changed
Worlds is on Patch 7.18 with the additional condition of Ornn being perma-banned from the tournament.
: PSA: As an ADC, do NOT go for Berserker Greaves first!
Kalista, Twitch, Varus, and Kayle should all be building it first. If you don't understand why, study the champions kits. Your opinion of the item, or what you think is best for the world, is largely irrelevant to anyone that isn't you. There is a reason the pros do it.
: well , might it useful on oriana because of her passive actually
In her case specifically it also really helps you when your opponent is playing well and making you miss your skillshots. Ori has a nasty scaling to her AA's thanks to Clockwork Windup anyway and Nashors only makes her toss junk like her father used to. I'm a "bottom laner", so I'm used to fighting with AA's anyway. But when I see a Mid build Nashors on any AP mid, I understand why. They feel like they can still win lane with just AA's. Some players let you AA them to death and don't even realize it.
DevenZxZ (NA)
: CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT 4v5 LP LOSS
If it takes the other team an hour to beat you and your team has a certified (greyed and x'd out at the end of the game) afk'er...your entire team should gain 10LP just for holding out so well.
: well my friend , depends on which champion you buy it actually :) if you buy it on teemo is pretty useful , but buying it on syndra in my opinion is not that relevant , as syndra can deal big damage without it ! :)
The three champions I build it on in Mid: Orianna (Rush against Katarina/Zed/Fizz), Syndra (Second after Morello, only when against heavy divers), and Janna (Yes that Janna). Orianna, for obvious reasons, synergizes with Nashors anyway (Clockwork Windup) and it really helps me even trades against the teleporting divers that often dodge her ball or do something to make me expend it.
XJochumX (EUW)
: If someone banns mission related champs on purpose, is it bannable?
Take a screenshot, send it to Riot, and let them decide.
Tik115 (NA)
: New missions and......Hold up
It says PVP modes. I can see a solid 5-man melee team winning in Nexus Siege.
: Anyone worried about the majority of mages building the same items ?
{{item:3115}} catches me a lot of grief in Mid. I don't really know why people freak out about it when I buy it on any bursty mage that gets reduced to auto-attacking after expending their kits. As a "bottom laner", I am used to swinging autos around. Nashor's tooth is savage in this regard and still grants 80AP + 20%CDR. Combined with a Morello's I can proceed to buy pure cancer without worrying about CDR at all (Ludens, Liandry's, Deathcap, ect.) People would be more willing to experiment if they weren't threatened with being reported the moment they try to flex their creativity.
: ok guys, who do you think are the champs who are cwf (crazy when fed)
{{champion:202}} I've been on both sides of this guy getting nasty fed. When your first shot hits for 80+% of a squishy HP bar, you know you're broken.
Rioter Comments
: THAT'S the learning curve that riot is suggesting ?
You have to consider a fair portion of his "power" is lost to that. That's why I'm surprised he hasn't shown up in Support yet.
: where is the incredibly difficult part in ornn's kit that makes his shit winrate acceptable
Having games last past 30 minutes so that everyone on your team has his upgraded item.
SirPurrr (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=RAMP Schmidtty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cROyLGM8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:41:24.812+0000) > > The technical term would be "Fixed Time of Use". Elixirs only start when you're dead because your purchase into a full inventory automatically uses it. Simply time the purchase with your respawn. They give you two timers to keep track of grey screen. Why though? It just seems like a stupid gotcha which takes away from focusing on the actual game. You've already made the decision to get an Elixir and now you have to sit there in inventory till 1 second before you spawn rather than watching the game and thinking about the next steps. Just dumb.
If your inventory isn't full, the item won't use itself when you buy it. If your inventory is full, it will. This isn't hard to work around. I still get to look around. When the grey fades and I'm alive again, I buy the elixir as I start running and go about my business. However, if there is space in your inventory, it will sit there until you actually use it like any other potion.
: > [{quoted}](name=Maid of Plays,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BVacYkLZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:50:22.760+0000) > > wouldn't a melee save mean you have a decent chance of getting tagged with the charm yourself? You sit back and wait for it, Devour has a pretty decent range over Rakan's Quickness (especially now since they lowered the collision radius) and since Rakans WR it means there's 1 second where Rakan can't move to charm you as he's in the channel for Grand Entrance. > [{quoted}](name=RAMP Schmidtty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BVacYkLZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:51:12.765+0000) > > Rakan is actually a hard counter to Tahm because of his RW. He'll get both of you, thus, Tahm can't eat anyone until the damage is already done. > > Alistar's Headbutt is the only Melee move I've seen that can kick an Ring Rakan away without being charmed. It's the exact opposite, if you're so close to your squishy carries that he can tag you both in RW that's a misplay on your side, not because Rakan "counters" Tahm.
> [{quoted}](name=DotEleven,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BVacYkLZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:53:24.023+0000) > > You sit back and wait for it, Devour has a pretty decent range over Rakan's Quickness (especially now since they lowered the collision radius) and since Rakans WR it means there's 1 second where Rakan can't move to charm you as he's in the channel for Grand Entrance. > > It's the exact opposite, if you're so close to your squishy carries that he can tag you both in RW that's a misplay on your side, not because Rakan "counters" Tahm. I've never seen a TK do well in lane against anything/Rakan. He has to sit to far back to be useful and one good W will doom you both. You, literally, sacrifice lane to survive. In the current meta, that just isn't tenable.
: As someone that has over 1000 games of Aram across my accounts, I can honestly tell you these are exaggerated. Theres no champ that is 100% useless, and theres certain build paths that can make any champ viable (especially with the large amount of starting gold givign you a major head start.) Reliable heals are on the ground, on your summoner skill. Bursty mages are awesome in aram, as long as your team isnt ALL AP. If the enemy is building MR then whoever is AD on your team will shred them. I honestly cant name one champ that doesnt have a decent aram strategy to them. The one lane, 5 enemies and close walls make every champion at the very least, viable. And my final point was actually a guess at first, until I op.gg'd you. I mean no disrespect by this. But if you're bronze 3, you dont get to decide whats broken or which champs are useless. The fact you're in bronze means you dont understand the champs enough to use to their potential, so you cant say who is useless or not. Change your way of thinking, stop blaming riot, and start looking to the source of the problem: you. After that youlll climb my dude.. Just gotta recognize you're in bronze for a reason, and stop blaming anyone but yourself.
Well, to be fair, champions like Udyr and Garen have a hard time out there early. Players who aren't fond of melees will have all kinds of trouble without gap-closers in the ARAM environment. Champions like Sona and Veigar own the bridge, so there definately are tiers of effectiveness. But, and this is a big ol' booty, a strong player can make anything work out well enough to win.
: Where is Tahm in all this mess?
Rakan is actually a hard counter to Tahm because of his RW. He'll get both of you, thus, Tahm can't eat anyone until the damage is already done. Alistar's Headbutt is the only Melee move I've seen that can kick an Ring Rakan away without being charmed.
Glumpert (NA)
: I have attack move click on t and I do basically the same as you but hold space. I just thought if the semi locked worked like it does in HotS it'd be convent to see more of what's in front of you while you do that.
I know people who can barely function on the unlocked cam as it is. I'd hate to confuse them even more. xD I personally wouldn't mind it as long as it wasn't convoluted and reasonably effective.
: > [{quoted}](name=RAMP Schmidtty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KbmdATKl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:39:31.689+0000) > > Only non-dashing melee's are useless in ARAM. Healing reduction prevents healers (specifically Sona) from being untenable. > > But you should know that Riot will not ever balance the champions or items around ARAM. 100% of their balancing efforts go onto the Rift, and the Rift only. Thus, ARAM is just a fun mode. you mean soraka
No, it's Sona for ARAM. Her perpetual healing/shielding from her W is far more dangerous on her because of how brutal she already is there. Sona is one of ARAM's most abusive Champions even with the healing reduction.
: you forget champions like leblanc, or any fun champion really, who a little poke and you might as well die, literally. i don't want balance, i want a healing pool/ mechanism to heal in game besides those 4 health packs, which, lets face it your team is gonna take anyways
Wait...you actually play ARAM with an expectation of never dying? There's your problem right there.
SirPurrr (NA)
: PSA: Elixirs Start When You Buy Them Even If You're Dead
The technical term would be "Fixed Time of Use". Elixirs only start when you're dead because your purchase into a full inventory automatically uses it. Simply time the purchase with your respawn. They give you two timers to keep track of grey screen.
: Can we talk about ARAM
Only non-dashing melee's are useless in ARAM. Healing reduction prevents healers (specifically Sona) from being untenable. But you should know that Riot will not ever balance the champions or items around ARAM. 100% of their balancing efforts go onto the Rift, and the Rift only. Thus, ARAM is just a fun mode.
Zahkara (NA)
: How does Poppy pop?
A lot of Poppy's early damage comes from her base stats and her kit. Try adding something like a Sheen into Iceborn Gauntlet for more damage. They actually work pretty well on her, especially when you land your combos.
Glumpert (NA)
: Can we make semi locked camera reset when you unlock and lock back?
I have "Attack/Move/Click" bound to the space bar and the "Lock/Unlock" camera bound to V. When kiting, I lock the cam and use alternating click to move/space to attack and unlock the cam when it's time to go.
: If Bjergersen had visa issues for worlds and couldn't play who would be asked to replace him?
It wouldn't happen. The team orgs are way to good at what they're doing for this to ever be an issue. At the very least, the host country would certainly grant a temporary passport for the duration of the event.
Tace36 (NA)
: Supports you suck at the game
They got to Plat 5 by being a strong teammate. You clearly aren't one if you don't understand why help arrives and when. Your mechanics clearly got you where you are. If you were a better teammate, you'd probably be in Master.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=RAMP Schmidtty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HkxLh3ny,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:11:50.884+0000) > > No, because not all Support Mains are female. > > You should know that most of the actual females that play games in general won't advertise that fact, and that the ones who do are usually men trying to goad you out of something. You don't have to be female to be considered an "e-girl". You just have to play an enchanter support and just follow the adc around while begging for attention.
> [{quoted}](name=Dasdi96,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HkxLh3ny,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-09-24T19:20:55.352+0000) > > You don't have to be female to be considered an "e-girl". You just have to play an enchanter support and just follow the adc around while begging for attention. This is called a Trap in the real world. The champion played doesn't define the gender of the player. -snip, no gender discussion-
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Is it true that all janna mains are e-girls?
No, because not all Support Mains are female. You should know that most of the actual females that play games in general won't advertise that fact, and that the ones who do are usually men trying to goad you out of something.
  Rioter Comments
Die Alone (EUW)
: Why not just remove the Support role?
So what would be your solution? All you really did was complain about Support but you offered no actual options to fix it. This is called whining, by the way. There are 4 reliable sources of gold on the map. The 3 lanes and the Jungle. What is the fifth player supposed to do? Supporting the team seems like a good call, and because they are severely hamstrung in gold, their items have to be worthwhile or you'll have season 6 all over again. So what do we do? Make the game 4v4 and change everything about what League of Legends is? Do we add 2 more meaningless roles for each other lane and make it 7v7? Do we have them turn the game into HoTS and let the entire team split gold/exp across the whole map? Do we force them to bracket each "Position" into a hard-set line? Given the options, and what the game was like during Season 0-3, I personally think they've found a fairly useful balance for the "fifth player" conundrum.
ganggoink (EUW)
: Nobody in this world can tell me Lulu, Janna, Soraka, kog, twitch and Tristana are balanced
Sounds like your problem isn't with the champions you're playing against, but rather in farming up in opposition to them. Every champion feels OP when you're behind.
: Am i the only one having trouble with doing the baron mission?
I don't think the Baron mission requires a victory. Not 100% sure of that, but mine was done after my first game after the mission launched. You can always play a Blind pick game or a Ranked game that will almost certainly yield a Baron, but otherwise, your idea to just keep playing is really the only way.
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