: Riot's punishment system is generally automated. thats very sad ok well league is run by trolls confirmed im quitting soon
I feel the same way. They dont think that if they actually track the trolls more most likely less people would be toxic. but htey dont wanna hear that
: Thankfully, some of those questions you posed are questions with definite answers. > How exactly does the IFS work? The short-version is, it's a machine-learning program that is designed to read and interpret chat in various languages. It uses a number of context clues to determine the underlying intention of the chat (whether it's negative or not, etc.), and determines whether or not it should issue a punishment based off of the severity and frequency of the player's offenses. > What does it detect? At the very least, all forms of chat misbehavior, and there's no real reason not to believe that it is also programmed to try to discern intentional gameplay misbehavior. > Are we notified every time the system issues punishment, or only sometimes? This is something that is generally unclear. On the community side, we understand it as an "only sometimes" sort of deal; infrequent reminders that reports matter. However, Riot comments point towards it being that the system notifies you when your report triggers a punishment; naturally within a span appropriate to recent memory. This is a question that generally deserves better clarification. > Does it take into account pre-game and post-game chat, or only in-game chat? It takes into account all chat from the first second of Champion Select to the last leave of the post-game lobby. As soon as you're matched with other players, the IFS has all three instances of the game to look at when reviewing behavior. > How about griefing via pings? Uncertain; to my knowledge, ping abuse may be a manual-review covered thing, but it's probable that the IFS can detect ping abuse, too. > How many reports does it take for the system to do something about a player's behavior? In the context of a given match? Only one. The IFS is coded to only review a player's behavior in a given match if the amount of reports filed against that player is greater than a value of zero. Anything beyond the first report is only acknowledged insofar as notes that potentially help discern the misbehavior in question, and, for the aforementioned punishment notification. How many valid reports does it take for a punishment to be issued is another question entirely, however, and the answer to that one is; it depends on the situation. More egregious offenses are punished faster, but low-key toxicity and general negativity may take a while of buildup before it merits a punishment. > Are all reports seen as equal, no matter how serious the offense? Yes. All reports do is trigger a review, and in that capacity, are no greater than one another. I suppose it could be said that more accurate reports (accurate report categories, concise details, etc.) could be more valuable than run-of-the-mill, generalized reports, but that's just supposition.
> At the very least, all forms of chat misbehavior, and there's no real reason not to believe that it is also programmed to try to discern intentional gameplay misbehavior. I don't agree with this. It has been multiple of games where I get a player who doesn't wanna defend the base or doesn't wanna group with the team even when the game itself dictates we must do this in accordance to the mechanics, and yet, the players just stays in the lane giving the game away while the team gets 4v5'd with a baron
Rioter Comments
: My english teacher told me this : If you wanna do something right,,, do it yourself .
Yeah and Riot doesnt want it that way. Riot wants yo-u to play as a team. You can only do so much solo on League
: Your rank is not determined by any one game, but several.
Im not talking about placements, im talking about climbing
: >Thats what my logic is A flat earther would say the same, and still be wrong. Your petty insults also don't give you credibility.
Flat Eath believers are pretty much on the stupid spectrum
: That's kinda the idea of MMR. People who consistently make bad plays will drop over time. People who consistently make better plays will rise over time. It's not bannable.
But some of these mistakes costing OTHERS their LP too, and when you try to tell them what to do, they think its flaming and now im here like... ok, go feed to your heart contets then, ill try not to do the same, but i might die for being overextended
: >I think youre stupid. The other guy thinks you are stupid for making these pings. Since you are both on the same ELO (otherwise you wouldn't be in a team), statistically speaking either of you could be right, and neither of you has the necessary authority of superior knowledge to ascertain whos right and who isn't. Also, league is not a zero sum game of binary decisions. You being right about the strategy doesn't make the other guys strategy wrong. >just because you THINK its right DOESNT TRASNLATE to BEING right. Funny, because...you think that you are right. I love it when people defeat themselves in an argument.
I know why I said it and I did not beat myself because goes to show that I was carrying them until they got over confident and forgot who had the dmg. Mistakes after mistakes happened and many were preventable but ppl wouldnt listen and would proceed to blame it on me bc "what were you doing" and im over here like "i wasted my pings to tell you i dont have anyrhing dont fight" but you fight, thats the bad call, thats the mistake, thats the stupid play. Dawg, when three ppl are in on the same thing, its pretty much a good thing
: So, you think if someone doesn't play exactly by your standards, doesn't react as you want them to and doesn't abide by exactly how you think they should mean their inferior to you? The fact that you call out their decisions or bad play or react as you do but yet define them as "stupid" is quite ignorant and simply as bad as the griefers I was talking about. Who are you to insult them or to think they're inferior? They're playing a video game. Not everyone is only focused on improving themselves. It can be a combination of improving, testing their skills, or trying to simply have fun by stepping up in a ranked game. But do not for a second think you're superior to them by any means. They're just as human as you are and they have every rights to make mistakes and make their own choices. Quite honestly, the real issue here is your attitude and how you treat these players as if they're inferior to you. Simply bad taste.
Doesnt have to be MY standards. I have learned a lot of the game throughout the year, what I need to work the most of is wave management and tack of jungle which is the hardest but gotten pretty good at it lately. Meaning, i know when I need to back, how far extended I should NOT BE depending oh our vision in which side of the map. If youre in a ranked game, you must be serious, if you coming to jerk off, do us a favor and queue up for a draft pick instead. If ,my awareness of the map, my cs skill and other things in regards to how to win the game, is better than my team...Thus, i do have more skill than my teammates and must use that to help them. I say it like it is, if you did something wrong on it ill tell you nice try, it could go better
: Wanna know my logic ? Why do you care for monkeys ,,, solo carry your team ...
Its hard when they dont push waves and you have to do everything yourself. Especially when you back and the team decides to fight without you
: >If three people pinged you about 3 to 4 times each one, and you still stay on that spot or doing whatever youre doing. I think youre stupid. P Or, bear with me on this, they might think the people who are spamming ping are wrong. Three people telling someone to go back doesn't always translate to being right either. Or they muted their teammates for spamming pings. Making a wrong tactical decision is not against the rules.
Thats what a mistake is, and it could cost you the game. Do you want to win LP or lose LP ?
: This is two months old. Also it's a comparison of principle. Obviously the MLB is more serious business than League public client, but sportsmanship applies in the same manner. .
Hell nah. It applies differently.... there are a lot of bats on that field, and a lot of strong moderfukers
: 'gg ez' is just how salty winners celebrate man. Everytime, regardless if it's on my team or the opposing team, you ARE going to get reported, because there's nothing I hate more than people not being able to simply enjoy the win and have to make others feel like shit because they feel even more of a winner that way somehow. It's actually cancerous.
HAAAAAA WEAAAAAAK
: But they are humans. They have their own reason, goals, feelings and trying to accomplish what they believe could win the game. You can't punish them for that. I can't speak for all of them, but not all of them are doing this to provoke you or others. This is a video game that's completely based on competitive teamwork. The people on the other end of that avatar aren't shadows. They're not objects that you can control nor can you understand their full intentions. Yes, there are players who griefs, that can be reported and will be penalized if its consistent on their end. But you can't expect people just to abide and follow every pings or communicate how you want them. Because they ARE humans.
If three people pinged you about 3 to 4 times each one, and you still stay on that spot or doing whatever youre doing. I think youre stupid. Plain as that. Also, just because you THINK its right DOESNT TRASNLATE to BEING right. If you think going into a 1v5 its a good idea, then yorue stupid. Plain and Simple
Rioter Comments
: Well the system is for people who have never played league before and dont know what the runes are actually good for. You and I can go back and forth about how much of a special boy you are, but it's honestly not going to get us anywhere. Peace.
I had never played league before I started playing LMAO. I used to play WoW , DOTA and Warcraft. And being a risk taker does make me special and better than you <3 BYE
: They are working on a new tutorial currently: https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2018/05/dev-new-player-experience/
Yeah yeah, I read that a couple of days ago. You and I both know that this will take quite some time. Im actually glad they can make the summoners available at lowers levels. Its frustrating wanting to jungle but not being able to use smite
: Again, you and I both know that, but the system isn't designed for us. The newbies don't know that, so letting them choose is meaningless. They are equally likely to choose awful runes and good runes. It gets them into game faster to choose for them, so they can keep learning and get the xp needed to make those decisions. Lots of players get hung up on analysis paralysis when confronted with lots of choices. If that's not you, congrats on having a mental trait for which you can take 0 responsibility! Other people don't work that way; the system helps them.
I get that part that when youre new you wouldnt understand whats good as in for runes. However, the game doesnt really pick the runes for you. it just gives you 4 default pages and thats it. I dont get analysis paralysis not because i dont take 0 responsibility, but because I know how to read and can make sense of what things could paired well with others. When the runes first came out, no one knew wtf to do... But we pulled it through. I literally played a game for every combination of runes and masteries on the champions im best at to understand how the new combinations worked
: There are 2 ways to teach your kid how to swim: throw him in the pool and hope he doesn't drown, or teach him the basics for him to build upon and improve on his own. New leveling system favors the latter than the former.
eeeeh. IDK, im one of those that actually jumped into the water without knowing how to swim.
: You won't know what to swap to until you try out the auto-pages anyway. What's the point of letting people swap around when they've played the game for only a few hours?
EEEH, idk, Grasp Vladimir doesnt sound good, neither does POA Jhin, Just saying
: Because when you're an actual new player, you won't understand what to do with all that stuff. They ease you into it.
Unless they actually changed the mechanics in tutorial and people play it for ever, i guess they'd be ease into it. When I started i dont remember LoL telling me what to build, what runes/masteries to have. Also, just because youre a new LoL player, doesnt mean youre new to MMORPG. This kinda gets on the way of ppl that already have some basic knowledge to the game
: The new leveling experience doesn't cater to smurfs, it caters to actual new players
I know that. However whats the point of unlocking it when you can't change any masteries/runes to actually try out and such. I still cant see the logic
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zPOOPz (NA)
: keep dreaming lol
I dont dream, i hustle
zPOOPz (NA)
: Thanks for proving the system still work to remove toxic players like you {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
Youre welcome :D Though I dont consider myself toxic, but i dont let anyone disrespect me :D
Xidphel (NA)
: Where do you get the tinfoil for your hat?
do you even know how this game works business wise ?
: > [{quoted}](name=RIP TSM,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mlNXI7ZY,comment-id=00000000000000000003000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-18T20:45:11.433+0000) > > You need communication on game, so muting at times can be bad. More than half of you probably think that being told what to do to win the game is flaming. If thats the case, your opinion is still invalid. Look for a better one You can communicate via pings and you have already proved your inability to communicate. Your ban underscores your inability to be civil.
how can you see pings when you mute them ? what
: Nothing of value was lost.
and you make no difference :D
: > [{quoted}](name=RIP TSM,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mlNXI7ZY,comment-id=000000000000000000030000,timestamp=2018-05-18T19:37:49.094+0000) > > If someone smacks the hell outta your face, I guess you&#x27;d sit down in cry instead of getting a hit back. I critic myself. SO your argument is invalid. I have come to understand how the game works You analogy doesn't make sense and doesn't apply to your situation (you are in zero physical danger) nor to my response. You don't have to engage in game chat and you have the ability to mute all. While it's true you can't prevent a bad player from being on your team you can remove potential triggers by not chatting with anyone. If you're unable to control yourself and your actions,the problem lies with you.
You need communication on game, so muting at times can be bad. More than half of you probably think that being told what to do to win the game is flaming. If thats the case, your opinion is still invalid. Look for a better one
Pika Fox (NA)
: No, i used to do some moderation for a small private server. I did my fair share of making people dissappear.
Oh oh, "I used to moderate for a small server and i kicked some ppl out" bruh, get out of here, i do that all day with my discord serve rofl
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mlNXI7ZY,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-18T18:57:23.684+0000) > > You were banned because of the 9 previous penalties you&#x27;ve had, and the fact that you just got off a 14-day ban mere days ago. You were warned during that time that not changing your behavior would result in this. Isn't your name a tad ironic? {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
my name was a predition LOL, TSM got smacked on this first split, but its ok, theyll come back
Pika Fox (NA)
: Nah i wouldnt be a good fit for riot. Id just instantly ban you and remove you from the boards to not deal with you anymore. Riot has more respect for everyone than i have fucks to give.
hahaha, i doubt that. all bark no bite, is your kind of person
Coopa123 (EUW)
: If they try to remove themselves from the community as hard as you did it's just a matter of time
Oh, they taking too long. They still wanna make some money so they need some players to stay. And they cant make money off from Challenger players only
Ha1kuu (EUW)
: i'm quite tired but i still wanna ask this. i typed in this and got banned for it and i have been couple hours on reddit and i discovered that riot has a zero tolerence policy for that kind of behavior and i didnt know this and well my point is that i meant it only as an insult(Doesnt make it sound any better) Game 1 Ha1kuu: IM BACK BABY(bad connection fixed so i was exited) Ha1kuu: sry i was afk(felt bad for my team mates so i apologised) Ha1kuu: kys ezreal kys(made a mistake and notices ezreals unmeta 2 tear of the goddess build and felt a little care free and agitated so i desided to insult him) Ha1kuu: wtf have they done to quin(quin 1vs3 my team) (from a reddit discussion i followed and this great mans answer explained what i meant and i plan on not using those kinds of words again since i dont want to be banned) And what praytell were you meaning when you said that to ezreal? Because it sure wasnt kiss kiss. He means he didn't mean it exactly as it sounds, you know how sometimes words become popular in culture and we use them in the wrong context? Like when was the last time you texted your friend "lmao" and you legitimately laughed your butt off :/ It can be meant without the venom, as a way of calling someone an idiot (bad example), but I've seen people say worse things than that and as long as they don't use too many trigger words, it not a problem for them. so i hoped that MAYBE my penalty could be decreased since 2 weeks is a long time and ill do anything to lower it
i guess, ima just let the game die
: I would have to say that I am seeing a little more than two sentences of retaliation here. Also, you say that you are leaving this "dying" game to go play Fortnite. Fortnite, the game that already has had its peak and will be irrelevant within a year and a half just like H1Z1 and PUBG.
Well, When your team trolls you sometimes you get triggered. the post game was with syvana, she was wondering why she didnt get an S and it was because someone else had the better farm... btw, guess who that was..... yeah ME. All games have peaks and lows, LoL peak was 2016. However, player base wise, leauge is starting to crumble a bit compared to all other games right now. Even God of War has better views and plays than LoL. So yeah, LoL is acutally dying, and here is my sign to just uninstall this shit
: > [{quoted}](name=RIP TSM,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mlNXI7ZY,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-18T19:02:17.227+0000) > > Why you give such titlting ppl. How do you expect to keep calm when someone is legit harrasing you in game. Makes no sense. Why do you give me afks. Why do i still see these kind of ppl in my games. Uninstalled it is. I honestly feel ashamed now of having played this game so long and actually spent money on it since at one point I was enjoying it You should be ashamed of your attitude. The game can't make you react anyway, that is all you. Own it, reflect, learn from your mistakes, and grow up.
If someone smacks the hell outta your face, I guess you'd sit down in cry instead of getting a hit back. I critic myself. SO your argument is invalid. I have come to understand how the game works
: Riot makes an effort to remove such toxic players from the game. ie, you. Now nobody else has to be matched with you.
They shoulda done better and get rid of the other ones too
Pika Fox (NA)
: You are literally that person. Why do games have toxic people in them? Because you, yourself, are toxic. You cant be upset about everyone else being toxic when you are, and be surprised toxicity exists in LoL.
LOL ok, Cuz I'd be toxic when im telling you what to do to win the game when you decided to troll, I think youd be perfect to work for riot with that mindset
: You act like Riot knows everyone's behavior and decides who to put you in a game with. People are unpredictable. For example, I do not constantly trash talk my team mates in-game no matter how frustrated or angry I get, but what is stopping me from playing on any given day and deciding that I was tired of being nice and proceeded to start flaming and trash talking my team to oblivion. There is no surefire way to prevent toxic players from playing with the players who don't do anything wrong.
5 games, 3 afks, 2 games where my bot lane rane it down mid. IDK, seems too "coincidental"
: You were banned because of the 9 previous penalties you've had, and the fact that you just got off a 14-day ban mere days ago. You were warned during that time that not changing your behavior would result in this.
Why you give such titlting ppl. How do you expect to keep calm when someone is legit harrasing you in game. Makes no sense. Why do you give me afks. Why do i still see these kind of ppl in my games. Uninstalled it is. I honestly feel ashamed now of having played this game so long and actually spent money on it since at one point I was enjoying it
: Well, if your in-game chat is anything like your post. I would say that you must deserve what came to you. Of course, that is, unless you want to provide your chat logs to prove your innocence. Quoted verbatim from the Riot Support article "Instant Feedback System FAQ": > WHY WAS I PUNISHED WHEN THE OTHER PERSON WAS WORSE OR STARTED IT! * Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game. If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on. * Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the Reporting a Player FAQ
Game 1 In-Game RIP TSM: step to the left, step to the right RIP TSM: criss cross RIP TSM: why would he do dthat wtf RIP TSM: and he loses mad farm and xp RIP TSM: not worth tbh RIP TSM: naaah, she wont RIP TSM: damn, i didnt have RIP TSM: i really needed that RIP TSM: oh well RIP TSM: take mid RIP TSM: no RIP TSM: no RIP TSM: take mid RIP TSM: what are you doing RIP TSM: ........ RIP TSM: what are you guys doing RIP TSM: no RIP TSM: you guys shoulda jsut taken second tier mid RIP TSM: seens i have to go top again RIP TSM: shoulda expected nothing, youre 1/4 RIP TSM: because its my lane ? RIP TSM: im a split pusher RIP TSM: lmao RIP TSM: grow up and play an adc RIP TSM: ill wait till then RIP TSM: look RIP TSM: you give free objectives lmao RIP TSM: all of you muted, dont waste your time RIP TSM: fuck you RIP TSM: Report lux pls RIP TSM: toxic and spam pinigng RIP TSM: i had to mute her RIP TSM: i find it funny, they flaming me, but shes lux "Adc" RIP TSM: and ive died once in 22 mins lmao RIP TSM: dont take my farm RIP TSM: youre jsut feeding RIP TSM: gold on me is good RIP TSM: im popping off RIP TSM: look at scoreboard RIP TSM: seems i wont be able to carry this, gg fellas RIP TSM: whenver i have great games, i get the bad team, feelsbad RIP TSM: nice flash RIP TSM: youve been worthless all game RIP TSM: its not like im lying RIP TSM: he spawsn to die, idk if youve noticed RIP TSM: gg bad team RIP TSM: thank you RIP TSM: i honestly wasnt goona take the time RIP TSM: cuz i mean, just look at theor bot lane RIP TSM: isnt that griefing ? *thinking emoji( RIP TSM: Gg Post-Game RIP TSM: pls report the botttom lane RIP TSM: for toxicity RIP TSM: yeah RIP TSM: bc you didnt have the most farm RIP TSM: look at mines RIP TSM: i got no honors RIP TSM: feels good My jg and "Adc" started running it down mid with his duo Rammus "support" In other words, bullshit. OH, btw, the reason we lasted long in that game was actually because I was ahead on gold since i had the most gold out of both teams, with the most items. I do report these players, but Riot seems to like me too much and decides to snipe me. Ima just uninstall this game and let it keep dying. Time to go to Fortnite bois
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Jikker (NA)
: The AFKer most likely got placed in low priority queue if they actually disconnected. If not, then be sure to report them as AFK and while it may take Riot some time to gather evidence of a consistent pattern, with enough reports, they will be punished eventually. The main issue, imo, that people get away with stuff is that they're never reported so Riot doesn't know. Side note: Did you just name change? Cause yeah, RIP TSM legacy
> [{quoted}](name=Jikker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QodqobEd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-28T17:05:55.757+0000) > > The AFKer most likely got placed in low priority queue if they actually disconnected. If not, then be sure to report them as AFK and while it may take Riot some time to gather evidence of a consistent pattern, with enough reports, they will be punished eventually. The main issue, imo, that people get away with stuff is that they&#x27;re never reported so Riot doesn&#x27;t know. > > Side note: Did you just name change? Cause yeah, RIP TSM legacy I think they should punish them as harsh as Rito wanna punish toxic ppl. Also "punished eventually" wont give me the LP i lost. At least i wouldn't feel as bad if i lost and I know the guy got reported rather than losing just cuz of that guy and he wasnt punished. And yes, i did change my name. I knew TSM wasnt gonna make it this split
: I'm sure there's more to the story than the "enemy reports you so you get banned" πŸ˜‚
> [{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QodqobEd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-28T17:24:07.969+0000) > > I&#x27;m sure there&#x27;s more to the story than the &quot;enemy reports you so you get banned&quot; πŸ˜‚ nah not really. They were saying i was griefing cuz i didnt wanna play a 4v5 especially when whole team is behind
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: Riot Pls: Ranked Pls - 2017 Season Ranked Changes
I actualyl miss the old ranked. I used to queue up with 2 others and we used to reck havoc. i lowkey dont like the flex thing, but aye, solo/duo for life
mrchopme (NA)
: What is a champion that when mastered will wreck havoc/What champion has a high skill cap
For mid lane, i suggest you {{champion:69}} . Shes actually pretty strong and has high kiting potential with {{item:3116}} . The only thing i dont like, you cant buy boots, and your good speed kinda depends on landing Q . I have cheesed ppl with at level two when i grab {{summoner:14}} You q then e your mana bar away with ign
Quepha (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Cuban Beast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Bawn9EoA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-01-12T08:03:02.741+0000) > > I&#x27;m a mid/jungle main. That's nice. Now learn to play support too so you can play it decently when filled to that position.
I cant carry from supp, i depend on other ppl. I rather solo carry champ
: Literally play Eve every game and you'll climb to gold+. Stupid uncounterable shithead champ. ~D5 season 6 on smurf
Dude, ive been thinking about it, shes really strong, especially if she picks up like 3 kils by mimute 10
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