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Rioter Comments
Raigar (NA)
: this is the worst patch to ever hit league
Raigar (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=BlueVestGuy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AFAifWxU,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-02T07:13:01.936+0000) > > did they even do any balance changes beyond buffing niche runes this patch? they nerfed niche runes and buffed darius
> [{quoted}](name=Raigar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AFAifWxU,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-02T07:41:30.449+0000) > > they nerfed niche runes and buffed darius oh and they made scuttlecrab spawn at 3:14 which makes jg ekko even worse
: did they even do any balance changes beyond buffing niche runes this patch?
> [{quoted}](name=BlueVestGuy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AFAifWxU,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-02T07:13:01.936+0000) > > did they even do any balance changes beyond buffing niche runes this patch? they nerfed niche runes and buffed darius
: > [{quoted}](name=Raigar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AFAifWxU,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-02T07:06:23.012+0000) > > say what you want but this game sucks now its always sucked. whatchu talking bout willis
its even harder now for bad players to do anything, and I die like 20 times every game
: Worst patch not Black Cleaver stacking patch not release Leblanc not release Xin Zhao you sweet summer child
> [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AFAifWxU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-02T07:02:50.876+0000) > > Worst patch > > not Black Cleaver stacking patch > > not release Leblanc > > not release Xin Zhao > > you sweet summer child say what you want but this game sucks now
Rioter Comments
: If you know what your champ does it should not take more than 15 seconds. It's not really that hard to click a few buttons.
but i dont always remember what all the runes do
: > [{quoted}](name=Raigar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=61lJ8vFn,comment-id=0000000100010000,timestamp=2019-05-02T00:40:52.939+0000) > > suppose you dont have a preset rune page. > or you want to play a different set up based on variables such as opponents, teammates, etc well lets say you have 2 pages that you get free , and you have your main role/champ and your 2nd role champ? typically you will have a page set up for each. so there isnt that much adjustment needed. and if you have more rune pages like most people then you have more pre set options. champ select dont need to be longer. for the most part you have an idea of what you are playing and what you are playing against to make rune changes, if you are waiting til the last sec to do so then well that is not being prepared
it cant hurt to be longer, it even lets ppl go get coffee and not show up late (which happens more than it seems)
: > [{quoted}](name=Raigar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=61lJ8vFn,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-05-02T00:08:55.077+0000) > > also you might not know which champ you are playing until the last pick > which gives you 30 seconds to figure it out > which is not enough time well you dont have a lot to change, you can have multiple pages set up and then pick the best and changed the 1 or 2 things you need to change
what if you are playing a champ you dont normally play though
: > [{quoted}](name=Galaxyburstz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=61lJ8vFn,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-05-02T00:01:47.000+0000) > > Because as a jungler I want to see the entire enemy team composition before I complete my modifications. If 2 opponents are AP and the other 2 are AD whatever one the last person selects I will counter with either 6 Armor or 8 Magic Resist; also I want to see how much CC they have to decide between Tenacity or Bloodline, or whether they are tanky or bursty so I can decide between Conqueror or Electrocute as my keystone, are they fast? Should I take waterwalking or last stand or coup de grac, and what should my secondary tree have Resolve Demolish since they excel at team fighting so I must splitpush or inspiration since I need a stopwatch for diving towers or free boots/gold advantage and many other things > > : D yet you dont just use 1 rune page, you have multiple which can be preset up for whatever KEYSTONE you will be running and just fine tune a rune or two in the last 30 secs is more then enough
suppose you dont have a preset rune page. or you want to play a different set up based on variables such as opponents, teammates, etc
: Because as a jungler I want to see the entire enemy team composition before I complete my modifications. If 2 opponents are AP and the other 2 are AD whatever one the last person selects I will counter with either 6 Armor or 8 Magic Resist; also I want to see how much CC they have to decide between Tenacity or Bloodline, or whether they are tanky or bursty so I can decide between Conqueror or Electrocute as my keystone, are they fast? Should I take waterwalking or last stand or coup de grac, and what should my secondary tree have Resolve Demolish since they excel at team fighting so I must splitpush or inspiration since I need a stopwatch for diving towers or free boots/gold advantage and many other things : D
: you have the entire time to do this while in champ select why do you need more time?
also you might not know which champ you are playing until the last pick which gives you 30 seconds to figure it out which is not enough time
Rioter Comments
DevenZxZ (NA)
: A fond (ish) farewell to ranked. Your hypocrisy has finally caught w/ my mental well being </3
ur right. or even worse, ur reports lead to someone being banned so they make a new acct with the sole purpose of being toxic
Unker139 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cadkaw,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=b34EnRWc,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-30T16:01:50.132+0000) > > I feel that the system will punish when no punishment should be given.. If one person has an argument with another, why should that result in one or both of them being banned? Because someone got offended? What is the point of a language filter if you will still get punished for language? Why have players banned because he had more than one “trigger” in his lifetime of playing? This ridiculous notion that you need to punish players for having human reactions is silly. Because the two people arguing are not the only ones affected.
however, I see much more reports from losses than wins. It appears that other people only "feel affected" (or at least much more frequently feel as such) when they lose. An off-meta pick is reportable if its an L but not a W it seems. And there are countless other examples. Higher elo players generally respond better to comments about their play than low elo players. "You shouldn't have gone into that 3v1" is a trigger in bronze but an honest critique in gold. I just feel that the system is quite dependent on hurt feelings and not on actual behavior.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: i don't understand what you mean by "arbitrary" again reporting doesn't automatically cause a punishment to happen. you have to actually break the rules for one to happen.
breaking the rules is arbitrary. it depends on the person reporting to decide the "rules" were broken. One person who is flamed and doesnt report is essentially playing by a different set of rules than someone who does report.
Cadkaw (NA)
: I feel that the system will punish when no punishment should be given.. If one person has an argument with another, why should that result in one or both of them being banned? Because someone got offended? What is the point of a language filter if you will still get punished for language? Why have players banned because he had more than one “trigger” in his lifetime of playing? This ridiculous notion that you need to punish players for having human reactions is silly.
Kei143 (NA)
: People have different tolerance levels towards toxicity and toxicity levels change depending on who you play with. Some people may be more coarse when playing with friends as that's how they talk in real life together. If no one within that game finds the speech offensive, then they won't get punished for it.
you raise a good point- some people are more sensitive to certain kinds of in-game banter than others. Telling one person to stop feeding may make them play better, someone else they may tilt and feed more.
: Well, for one, a fully automated system would almost certainly receive some degree of backlash, as well as potentially having some increase in false-positive punishments (if the system is just actively looking for cases to punish, it may just find behavior that ostensibly fits and punish without second thought.) To that end, requiring a report to be filed is a mitigating feature, but reports also serve to allow players to decide what they believe is over the line in terms of behavior. A report is a player's way of telling Riot that they don't agree with the behavior a particular player was showing, and consequently, gives Riot (through the IFS) a reason to check if that player was misbehaving. As for report-calling/report-rallying, that in and of itself can be a punishable behavior, since the IFS only needs one report to review and punish a player - and I don't think that blaming a loss on a given person and calling to report them is acceptable, even as a one-off thing. People who exhibit those types of behavior will generally learn to stop when it catches up to them.
: Because it's not automated, people who are not reported for flaming do not get punished.
so punishment is in the hands of the reporters is what ur basically saying
Voldymort (EUNE)
: because being reported doesn't do anything as long as you **actually** didn't do anything wrong
But isnt it a bit arbitrary to let players decide who to report then let an automated system take over at that point?
Raigar (NA)
: which seems like a fair and generalized discussion point
> [{quoted}](name=Raigar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iE4vbRvJ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-30T13:01:21.328+0000) > > which seems like a fair and generalized discussion point If I say "LeBron james isnt as good as michael jordan because michael jordan played basketball and baseball. But no one seems to care about baseball when discussing basketball skill" i am neither ranting nor using verified sources to make my argument.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Raigar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iE4vbRvJ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-30T12:44:40.554+0000) > > this is a place to discuss things... i dont see any anger here There is not a discussion here. There is nothing to discuss. The champion hasn't hit live, 99.9% of the players haven't played it yet. He is making presumptions Based on thin air that have no background no backup no source and is just pointless to start arguing about it where nothing is official. His main point is not even that he's afraid that she will be good on mid, it's that he's angry that some supports were nerfed recently because they were efficient on mid
which seems like a fair and generalized discussion point
Rioter Comments
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: How about we let it hit live before we go on the boards and start yelling about it? Seems reasonable enough?
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iE4vbRvJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-30T12:34:12.978+0000) > > How about we let it hit live before we go on the boards and start yelling about it? > > Seems reasonable enough? this is a place to discuss things... i dont see any anger here
: > [{quoted}](name=Raigar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7AXefh4N,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-04-29T04:34:18.489+0000) > > so, in the last 5 games someone from riot banned me and quoted the 6th-most game? I dont understand that either, especially considering they were good games... It's not necessarily the game that the punishment was for. In the incident that I remember it was an unrelated game that tossed out some logs. It was never told what caused it (human error or otherwise), but a Riot'er came out and said that the chat logs was a mistake. So either way, It's likely some sort of error occurred. Be it in the message given to you or the ban itself.
Raigar (NA)
: so, in the last 5 games someone from riot banned me and quoted the 6th-most game? I dont understand that either, especially considering they were good games...
but i appreciate the post and i submitted a support ticket
: There have been a couple of rare cases where a manual ban was issued and it gave chat logs for an unrelated game instead of what the ban was for. You've had 5 games played since the one given in the chat logs so I doubt it was the automatic system that applied this punishment, they tend to be either immediately after one of the games given in the logs or at most after one more game. Either way, a support ticket will give you some answers.
so, in the last 5 games someone from riot banned me and quoted the 6th-most game? I dont understand that either, especially considering they were good games...
: To note for everyone who keeps saying it was an int ban: IF that was why he was banned, it would say he was banned for inting, not chat related offenses. So unless the system screwed up somehow, he was punished for chat. As for the chat itself... I honestly am not sure what on here is toxic. A wild guess would be the "wtf man", and calling someone dumb, as they're both directed at someone. However, if those are what triggered it, I don't see how this would be a 14 day ban if you didn't have chat restrictions before. I'd recommend sending in a support ticket, as they'll be able to be of more help. Or you can try for their live chat when it's available. If you do send in a ticket, note that it can take 24-48 hours for someone to get back to you.
: Submit a support ticket. Chance wronf logs were given or wronf punishment. Safe to assume no previous punishments?
in the past 4 years i got chat restricted once
rujitra (NA)
: I am not sure your exact computer procedure for capturing a screenshot, but on some windows computers there is a "snipping tool" which you can use, then save the image and upload to imgur and post the link here. If the log does not fit all in one screenshot please scroll through and screenshot the entire log.
did you see it? one game and i posted the whole log
Raigar (NA)
: it clearly says i was banned for abusive comms
our botlane fed like 15 kills and our top and jg like 5 or 10 a piece, we got shrekt
Raigar (NA)
: no? i did not.
it clearly says i was banned for abusive comms
: The whole team fed, but if you **intentionally fed** even one death, then the system picked it up and punished you. Did you?
: Relog and your reform card will show again.
rujitra (NA)
: I am not sure your exact computer procedure for capturing a screenshot, but on some windows computers there is a "snipping tool" which you can use, then save the image and upload to imgur and post the link here. If the log does not fit all in one screenshot please scroll through and screenshot the entire log.
i did heres the imgur https://imgur.com/a/5mhEwGd
rujitra (NA)
: Care to screenshot your chat logs and post the screenshot? You can use a site like imgur to upload.
heres the imgur with all three https://imgur.com/a/5mhEwGd
: This sounds like a punishment for intentional feeding, not for chat.
you would think, but it wasnt- the whole team fed it was like 30 - 5
: You sure it wasn't for going 1/8 and 0/11? Also, I'm going to assume you just came off a 25 game mute?
nope and nope i didnt int either, all lanes fed it was a shit storm, but i wasnt toxic- i even muted everyone and stopped talking after about 5-10 minutes
rujitra (NA)
: Care to screenshot your chat logs and post the screenshot? You can use a site like imgur to upload.
sure ill do that- how do i do that.. the ingame chat restriction appeared on my screen and i had to click "I understand"
Manxxom (NA)
: sometimes they may need to level up a bit since wolves or krugs are too far atm
okay but, IS IT BANNABLE to tell ur jg to stop farming- i was down a lot of cs because i had died twice
Manxxom (NA)
: Why were you going mid as nautilus? Can't you go ap naut as suppport?
yes, but that is beside the point, i was autofilled midlane, i had watched a video, posted by riot, that ap nautilus mid is the new meta- i tried it. this isnt about what i chose to play its about whether or not telling the jg to stop farming ur lane is ban worthy
Raigar (NA)
: i was mid
and jg was farming the lane while i was in it
Manxxom (NA)
: "don't farm" *plays as nautilus* Isn't it the adc's job to farm...?
Raigar (NA)
: hahaha this two week ban is actually ridiculous (game log inside!)
banned for telling my jungle not to farm my lane gg
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Stacona (NA)
: Po'Do, the Mastermind Strategist
I say we make a kitty cat version of dora the explorer.
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