stoyo8 (NA)
: Please tell me there is more to the preseason
So far nothing to address high damage, low defense. I wouldn't bet on it, either.
: I am ashamed of our region (huge rant)
C9 needs to get rid of repeared. Period.
: Preseason 2020 Gameplay: Rise of the Elements
It's a step in the right direction, but still nothing to address the absurdly high damage, and how broken items are in general.
: Longest running rivals... Twisted Fate, and Graves. Soraka, and Warwick. Kayle, and Morgana. There could be others.
: Hot take: Triumph is one of the biggest factors to the snowballing problem in League
Another Hot Take: Runes Reforged is one of the problems with League.
Jikker (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=1b6TUYsy,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-10-08T17:11:26.497+0000) > > TL has a better shot of reaching the finals. That's what everyone said last year and look what happened.... Liquid looked much better on the World stage this year at MSI sure, but they are very prone to choke, especially Dlift, and they are not as flexible in their playstyles like G2 is and C9 has been stated to be a lesser version of G2 from a playstyle perspective (that's pros talking, Liquid players if I remember correctly). They just lack the same talent and confidence that G2 has.
They were a different team last year, though. I mean yeah, NA has always been prone to choking. But my point still stands.
: See, that's not a blanket nerf, that's exact. You're targeting items and stats, not just throwing a blanket 10% down on everything.
That's fair. I'd love to see items reworked completely to give them more tradeoffs with stats, while also nerfing the numbers. For example, instead of {{item:3102}} giving AP, CDR, spellshield, AND MR, rework it so it only gives the spellshield and AP or CDR. Not all 4. That way players will have to build more specifically towards the opposing team/state of the game. I wish Riot would make the game more strategic, but they've been moving towards a killfest. Just not fun. I want to play league, not call of duty.
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=1b6TUYsy,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-10-08T17:11:26.497+0000) > > TL has a better shot of reaching the finals. no one of them will reach the finals probably favorites are SKT, GRF,G2 and some Chinese team, maybe IG or RNG
oh absolutely. I'm just saying that TL has a better shot than C9 does.
Quáx (NA)
: Riot claims they want to promote fun interactions. Then why are they doing THE OPPOSITE
Riot seems to be confusing "interactive and exciting" with "none or little counterplay"
: im officially hardstuck silver 1 everyone
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: C9 winning worlds?
TL has a better shot of reaching the finals.
: Hasn't happened because it's a blind shot into the dark which doesn't address any actual problems, and is a half-ass blanket solution.
I disagree. Riot doesn't have to touch base damages for champions, but things like B.F Sword/Infinity Edge, Ability damage, can all be toned down. i would fully support this, and maybe *just maybe* I would play again. I miss the game, but its so horribly balanced. it's impossible to enjoy.
ShiraZen (NA)
: Am I the only person who just thinks that a 10% damage nerf against Champions across the entire game would make everything MUCH better?
Nope. We've been begging for this for 4 years now. I gave up and quit.
: I was bored, what do you think of my creation?
uNm Longy (EUNE)
: Help me get Riot's attention
Good luck man!! I hope it all works out wonderfully!
: My teammates aren't bad, this meta is just very unforgiving
That's definitely a factor, but it's also bad teammates. The game knowledge difference in ranked is just stupid. There are players in my gold elo that actually ask "How do I play against X"? and the griefing is just unbelievable. Like come on...
datfatguy (OCE)
: Why do people choose to not ban a champion
I don't care if you choose not to ban, but don't tell me "If you can't play well against any matchup, then youre bad." Ive heard this, and its a fucking pathetic thing to say.
: ELO difference in ranked games.
Riot won't do anything. This is one of the reasons I quit the game. The skill discrepancies are just unreal.
: League is Trash. But it's the best Trash we have.
Competitive Smash and Pokemon are far better than League's competitive scene.
: GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT NONSENSE. you know lux is next in line. she's been waiting since last month.
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: Victorious Skin???
It'll probably be {{champion:266}}, {{champion:113}}, or {{champion:72}} because theyve had massive impact on the pro scene.
: My friend. Let me tell give the best advice I can possibly give anyone. Do like I did. Jump ship. Just get out of this sinking sesspool of a game and you'll feel much better. I jumped shipped long long LOOOOONG ago when Riot began destroying the diversity and balance of the game by adding more damage. The damage is now utterly out of control and there's no way for them to repair the current state of the game, it to far gone. Once I realized that Riot had no intention of even attempting to repair the damage they have done to their own game, I jumped ship. It broke my heart at first because I played league for so long, it was a huge part of my life, but let me tell you when I moved on I felt way better in the end. Right now, the team behind the current state of the game just doesn't care. They have no heart for the game, their passion for the league and their own work has completely run dry and it shows very clearly. Their drive to make the game fun, their determination and passion towards League, it's just... gone. They've lost it and I think at this point they know they have. When you have a team behind a game that just doesn't have that drive anymore, then you know it's done, it won't ever change, it's not going to get better and once you realize that and get yourself out and direct your focus onto other things and games, you'll see a huge improvement in yourself. You'll discover a new passion, new energy for new games and that gamer spark in you will be revitalized. I'm telling you from experience, just jump ship. You can tell the team behind the current state of the game has totally lost their drive and passion by the patch notes as well. Just look at them, before we used to get detailed notes on changes explaining why they were being changed, why someone was getting buffed or nerfed. But now these days the notes simply read: "We buffed this champ cuz proplay" Or "We nerfed this champ cuz LCS" it's just the bare minimum these days. Currently, I'm playing Pokemon Masters, it's a mobile game but its fun, just slipping away from league and getting into this was very refreshing and doing so gave me the energy to go out and try some new other games as well. Monster Hunter Ice Borne i hear is pretty good, why not try that? I wish you all the best in whatever decision you decide to make. I miss league dearly but leaving it behind was honestly the best decision I could have made for it. Whatever you choose to do, I hope it works out.
Yup. I jumped 3 months or so ago, and I'm so glad I did. I'm glad you enjoy Pokemon Masters. I play the TCG competitively and I'm having so muxh more fun than I ever did with LoL.
GigglesO (NA)
: Except tank items.
Yes, I meant damage items. I've edited my post.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Damage scales faster and harder than defense.
Theres no tradeoff with items anymore. You get so much from every damage item these days.
Barkley (NA)
: I actually hope TSM doesn't make worlds.
Another TSM fan here, and I would disagree. I want them to crush the gauntlet and go to worlds. They need to keep trying. They know their problems.
: Good for Jensen
Lol doublelift is the best ADC in NA. And you want him gone? Lol.
c00face (NA)
: Yea.. I kind of abuse Pyke every game
He needs to be reworked, if you ask me. He he as way too much in his kit.
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=6ZPzI6f6,comment-id=00080000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T22:16:23.545+0000) > > You missed my point completely. > > Investing is fine. Thats not what I meant. In fact, subsidies and such are one of the reasons why we are in so much debt, but it is necessary sometimes. > > The Green New Deal calls for the ban of fossil fuels. 100% clean energy sources over 10 years. Sounds fine on paper, but this also calls for the government installing energy equipment in every home in the country, including training. Complete government control over energy. Yes, that is communism. > > My main point though, is that in order for all of this to happen, it must be paid for. Who pays for it all? Taxpayers. Taxes will go up, and thats not good. Some people will be fine with it, but not most of America. I certainly won't. Not because I'm greedy, but because I can't afford higher taxes. > > It sucks. I know. If I was making 70grand a year, I would gladly hand over money to help out. > > Its the same fight over tuition for all. You just can't pay for it. I live in a place where the government provides water and electricity, and we pay SIGNIFICANTLY less for both of those things than if we were to go through a private corporation. Whats so bad about the government installing solar panels on houses lol? the increase in taxes necessary is cheaper than installing them yourself. Also, the government has complete control over law enforcement in our country, does that mean the police is communist? or how about fire stations, is the fire department communist? or how about any government agency without a private equivalent, is that communist? idk communism they way you are describing it seems pretty decent. Government agencies are usually non-profit so all of their income is dedicated to purely service, and wages, without the profit motive they tend to provide better service at a lower cost, just like how municipal isps are always better than comcast, charter, time warner, verizon etc. Oh, a lot of these changes can be done if we tax the rich more. corporations in America don't pay taxes in America a lot of the time. Perhaps we go back to the regan era where we had a 90% marginal tax rate, that should be able to pay for a big part of it. Not to mention that the government can issue out bonds for extra money, then pay it back with interest at a later date. LIke i said, japans debt is 3x more than their gdp, and they have had no repercussions whatsoever. You keep saying debt as if its a bad thing, for individuals it may be but debt for a country isn't the same thing as debt for an individual, its a completely different dynamic.
> [{quoted}](name=Jeanne fan club,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=6ZPzI6f6,comment-id=000800000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T23:24:49.745+0000) > > I live in a place where the government provides water and electricity, and we pay SIGNIFICANTLY less for both of those things than if we were to go through a private corporation. > Good for you. Sometimes corporate business is cheaper. Lots of people have the choice of what they would like to pay for. That's the entire point of healthy competition. If the gov were to take over that too, thats called a monopoly which is illegal. > Whats so bad about the government installing solar panels on houses lol? the increase in taxes necessary is cheaper than installing them yourself. > No, it isn't cheaper. I'd very much pay for solar panels myself with a one time payment than have money taken out of my check every two weeks for a few years. > Also, the government has complete control over law enforcement in our country, does that mean the police is communist? or how about fire stations, is the fire department communist? or how about any government agency without a private equivalent, is that communist? idk communism they way you are describing it seems pretty decent. Government agencies are usually non-profit so all of their income is dedicated to purely service, and wages, without the profit motive they tend to provide better service at a lower cost, just like how municipal isps are always better than comcast, charter, time warner, verizon etc. > That's different and you know it. Public services are different because as you say, they are non-profit. If the Gov were to take over energy sources completely, they would have to go for profits in order to research for more innovations. Not to mention paying at least 15$ an hour...which would make prices for consumers skyrocket. > Oh, a lot of these changes can be done if we tax the rich more. corporations in America don't pay taxes in America a lot of the time. And where did you hear this? Corporations paid 35% quarterly, and thats not including taxes paid on stock sales and such. Now it's 20% which allows expansion and job creation. Also, if you tax the rich more, the rich will leave. Would you rather have them pay the current whopping 37% of their income in taxes, or tax them more and watch them go live in another country where they won't pay a cent to the U.S? Why are left-wings trying to punish the rich for earning their money? Jeff bezos created thousands and thousands of jobs and created something extremely convenient. Why shouldn't he deserve his money? Same with bill gates. Btw they both donate to charity. > > You keep saying debt as if its a bad thing, for individuals it may be but debt for a country isn't the same thing as debt for an individual, its a completely different dynamic. It is a bad thing. If you ask me, we're lucky we are still getting any money in loans. Our word of repayment will value less and less as it goes on.
: Doubling Down on C9 Dissapointment
Lol. I don't get why everyone hates doublelift. So he knows hes super good, so what? Let the guy say whatever he wants. He has results to prove it. Also, C9's drafting is by far one of the worst in the LCS. I legit think they need to get rid of reapered. TL is the better team, as theyve shown all season. LCS isn't rigged.
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=6ZPzI6f6,comment-id=000800000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T21:06:14.793+0000) > > You're certainly not wrong, AOC jr. > > But heres the issue. > > You can't just throw the government into everyone's lives like that. That's called communism. It has to happen naturally. Companies must innovate to move "green" and eventually, for example, everyone will be driving electric cars. > > Doing this by force through the government, will make life miserable. Then you rely on the government. You will have less freedom. We have already started phasing out gasoline, thanks to Tesla (and others). The government cannot do this forcefully like "The Green New Deal". I'm sorry, but noone can just dive into it like that. > > The US is already in too much debt, and the only way to do this is to massively increase taxes. Most of the countey cannot afford increased taxes. ... japans national debt is 3x their gdp but they are fine. This Austrian model of monetary theory has been proven false time and time again so this debt fear thing is overblown. Dude, I don't know if you understand this or not, but almost every big innovation in recent history was invested in by the government. Silicon valley is a good example of this. The green new deal wasn't even a policy, it was a resolution that congress would start investigating different ways they could pass legislation to reduce carbon emissions and invest in green energies. IDK what you mean by "throw the government into peoples lives" but pretty much every single safety regulation is the result of government interfering in peoples lives. Lead wallpaper? government fixed that. FDA preventing companies from putting harmful contents into food and other products, government did that. Police, fire departments, roads, highways, infrastructure, housing projects, fuel efficiency standards, government did all that too. Government is an important part of life and instead of trying to kick it out of our lives we should be utilizing it to make positive change. I'll just disregard your whole communism spiel because its woefully uninformed and presents a 1 dimensional view of government. I don't know what you mean by happen naturally either, we are on a ticking clock right now and waiting for elon musk to don his superman costume and snap his fingers to solve worldwide problems aint gonna happen. Also tesla receives a lot of government subsidies, not to mention electric car owners receive a rebate from the federal government in order to encourage the swap to electric cars. Is that communism too or?...
You missed my point completely. Investing is fine. Thats not what I meant. In fact, subsidies and such are one of the reasons why we are in so much debt, but it is necessary sometimes. The Green New Deal calls for the ban of fossil fuels. 100% clean energy sources over 10 years. Sounds fine on paper, but this also calls for the government installing energy equipment in every home in the country, including training. Complete government control over energy. Yes, that is communism. My main point though, is that in order for all of this to happen, it must be paid for. Who pays for it all? Taxpayers. Taxes will go up, and thats not good. Some people will be fine with it, but not most of America. I certainly won't. Not because I'm greedy, but because I can't afford higher taxes. It sucks. I know. If I was making 70grand a year, I would gladly hand over money to help out. Its the same fight over tuition for all. You just can't pay for it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=6ZPzI6f6,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T11:57:23.388+0000) > > And what would you have the world do? Cut millions of jobs? Kill thousands of businesses? > > Also, Ethiopia just planted 350million trees. ur exaggerating, but ABSOLUTELY. There are plenty of jobs that will be created by green energy initiatives, not to mention that infrastructure spending will result in new jobs 100% of the time, and they can't be outsourced. If we can save our planet by cutting millions of existing jobs, and replacing them with infrastructure or green energy jobs, that's a pretty good compromise. Maybe giving people financial stability through government programs would be necessary in order to make the swap easier, but sitting here idly and hand wringing over lost jobs while we are living in a pressure cooker is unhelpful and irresponsible. And its cool that Ethiopia is planting trees, but that shows that only through government intervention can we solve this problem. We need a massive change on a global level to curb carbon emissions and the only way we are gonna do that is by switching to green energy.
You're certainly not wrong, AOC jr. But heres the issue. You can't just throw the government into everyone's lives like that. That's called communism. It has to happen naturally. Companies must innovate to move "green" and eventually, for example, everyone will be driving electric cars. Doing this by force through the government, will make life miserable. Then you rely on the government. You will have less freedom. We have already started phasing out gasoline, thanks to Tesla (and others). The government cannot do this forcefully like "The Green New Deal". I'm sorry, but noone can just dive into it like that. The US is already in too much debt, and the only way to do this is to massively increase taxes. Most of the countey cannot afford increased taxes.
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=6ZPzI6f6,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-08-25T00:24:26.549+0000) > > Lol, pro corporate has little to do with climate change. > > The only way to combat climate change is to change our way of life, but nobody, and I mean *nobody* is about to stop driving cars. corporations produce 70% of carbon emissions. The bolsonaro government has made it legal for farmers to burn down large swaths of the amazon rain forest for their cattle to graze. Amazon produces a lof of oxygen (therefore it also absorbs a lot of carbon).
And what would you have the world do? Cut millions of jobs? Kill thousands of businesses? Also, Ethiopia just planted 350million trees.
: as long as right-wing pro corporate governments exist in the world there will be no fixing climate change. I'd still support this initiative, but it is really only a matter of corporate virtue signaling. An international entity will have to hold the Brazilian government accountable if we ever want to stop the amazon from burning, and that's just step 1 to combating climate change at this point. Its set back after setback at this point. I guess the world really is gonna be cremated alongside david koch
Lol, pro corporate has little to do with climate change. The only way to combat climate change is to change our way of life, but nobody, and I mean *nobody* is about to stop driving cars.
: How can you guys still play ranked and not go insane ?
I couldn't. I stopped playing entirely because I was losing my happiness. I was getting so angry with the game that I had to force myself to stop playing. I still feel an urge to get onlkne and just play normals, but I know as well as anyone matchmaking is flawed in all modes, so I resist.
: should i return to league?
Death Rex (EUW)
: Being a casual player in league is straight up demotivating
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JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E9Mc2Oqb,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-15T15:47:32.046+0000) > > ABSOLUTELY! > > I would love to have Jhin the announcer say "Pentakill!" Jhin doesn't believe in pentakills. At maximum he will say quadra kill.
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E9Mc2Oqb,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-08-15T16:41:27.816+0000) > > Jhin doesn't believe in pentakills. > At maximum he will say quadra kill. See above comment, my dude. I fixed it.
Levıathan (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E9Mc2Oqb,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-15T15:47:32.046+0000) > > ABSOLUTELY! > > I would love to have Jhin the announcer say "Pentakill!" Jhin would never say the word Penta
> [{quoted}](name=Levıathan,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E9Mc2Oqb,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-08-15T15:53:24.931+0000) > > Jhin would never say the word Penta Oh fuck, you right. I'd love to hear him go "QUADRAKILLL!!!!!!" and then "Well shoot." when you get a penta. I'd buy that.
Levıathan (EUNE)
: How Riot can make a cash grab that people can actually enjoy.
ABSOLUTELY! I would love to have Jhin the announcer say "Pentakill!"
: This game has the worst matchmaking I've ever seen.
I'd rather have higher queue times for better quality matchmaking, but Tencent wants a more casual game. So it won't go that way.
: We made Eternals system instead of...
It's all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
: "Tristana's jump has a much higher cooldown, and its point and click" Tristana cooldown on W: _COOLDOWN: 22 / 20 / 18 / 16 / 14 _ Rengar cooldown on ultimate: _COOLDOWN: 110 / 90 / 70 _ You mentioned you were talking about his ultimate in the post and based on that, Tristana cooldown on her leap is far less than Rengar. Far as leaping & bushes, that's Rengar's persona, yeah it's annoying due to the outplay potential and chase potential it gives, but it's part of his identity like Akali dashing in shroud or having multiple dashes that cover long distances. 30 seconds is when he reaches max rank + max cdr. Most ultimates get to the low 30-40 second cd late game. Just how the game is. Longest one that comes to mind is Karthus because well, your entire team getting nuked by a mage from fountain every 30 seconds would definitely be a pain. "He can burst down anything without much counterplay" Please stop overusing that excuse to call for a champion to be gutted until they're useless. Assassins already have it tough with stopwatch, steraks, ga, bodyblocking, and more. If he's bursting you down and you're unable to counterplay, high chance that you messed up somewhere and he's incredibly fed. ANY fed champion will burst you down without you being able to counterplay them. For example, I feed caitlyn and her team is seiging my mid inner turret. She aa's me for half my hp before I'm even able to reach her. Who's fault is it? My team and mine's due to the fact we allowed a long range adc to get fed. I really believe you're venting about Rengar and I feel that. I vented about akali being nerfed at one point after the rework because well, she's frustrating as hell to play against when you're a melee champ. But I looked at my mistakes and what I needed to change in my playstyle so I don't feed her and she becomes too problematic.
All good points. You're a Rengar main so you definitely know the champion better than I do. I won't argue with your side of it, because you're correct. However, it is still my opinion that the passive is broken. I will stick to it because I have played Rengar, and against Rengar, and "avoiding the brushes" is an unhealthy way to play the game. Also - Bursting down anything without counterplay is absolutely a true excuse in the game since Riot just keeps adding more damage. It is an excuse, but a valid one.
: > [{quoted}](name=Raiyza,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tWNN0BEU,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-08-12T16:11:51.793+0000) > > His passive is what's broken. The leap is uncounterable by many champions. What did I just read? So, you're saying all leaps are uncounterable...? You do realize Rengar requires a bush outside his passive to actually leap on you. You also realize his only other leap is on his ultimate which is AT MAX near a 30 second cooldown late game with the runes to reduce cc. There are many other champs in the game with greater access to leaps and dashes than Rengar. Also, Tristiana must be broken by your standards since she has a SUPER FAR AA RANGE and a buffered leap. Please think before speaking.
Tristana's jump has a much higher cooldown, and its point and click. Not really comparable. Also, yes the leap is broken. I actually meant his ultimate in my post, but even outside his ultimate the leap makes his counterjungling insane. The fact that he can use it from any brush, and in stealth, is just ridiculous. 30second CD on his ult is not alot of time. He can burst down anything without much counterplay. His ultimate can be bodyblocked, but you dont know where he is coming from.
Sukishoo (NA)
: New splashes and a leak into the new ADC
I don't play Veigar, but I love that splash. Those eyes remind me of Majora's Mask and it makes me happy.
Zeanix (OCE)
: Do not support Eternals if you want it to be free
This certainly doesn't make me want to log in.
: MAKE ICEBORN GAUNTLET MELEE ONLY
I just want his blink to go away.
: Can we please talk about how toxic Rengar is as a character
His passive is what's broken. The leap is uncounterable by many champions.
: Reminder that bans are supposed to be strategically used on counters
They need to increase the ban limit, by at least two. 7 bans per team. Yes they are to ban counters, but there are too many champions now so there are multiple champions that could ruin your own lane strategy. but you also have stupid broken champions like {{champion:555}} as well. Game is fucked.
: Pyke is a stupid idea
I totally agree. Get rid of the gold distribution in his ult and turn him into a true assassin. Also nerf the hell out of his health regen.
: Pyke has officially taken Yasuos place as my most hated champion.
He's also a goddamned liar. "Death from Below"? Liar.
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