Sniper 0 (NA)
: Have fun with that? Your inability to enjoy the game has no affect on the majority of the community.
Never said it did, but a lot of players not just me have already quit because of DQ. That edit is completely stupid and illogical. 1) I never said I was expecting downvotes, don't put words in my mouth, and 2) Complete Ad Hominem that doesn't make sense, why would I cry for attention for an account that's not going to exist in 10-15 days? Yes, I want upvotes just so they'll get deleted, brilliant logic. You went from > Riot is not the problem, lets just get that straight. Your mindset is the problem. to > Have fun with that? Your inability to enjoy the game has no affect on the majority of the community. It's obvious that you're white knighting a game that you like, and are trying to hammer down anyone who thinks differently about it. My mindset is exactly as it should be, just because I'm not a sheep that will continuously forgive Riot mistake after mistake doesn't mean my mindset is the problem. Riot and players like you with loyalist mindsets are.
: why do people who are leaving feel the need to write some big speech first it's like some guy is leaving a party, but when he's at the door about to leave he turns around and says "BUT FIRST IM GOING TO READ AN ESSAY ABOUT WHY IM LEAVING" just gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Sniper 0 (NA)
: Riot already apologized for saying that solo queue is coming back. They jumped the gun. People make mistakes... Get over it.
Riot apologizing doesn't change that there are very real problems with DQ. I'm more over it than you realize, completely quitting the game.
: Or just don't log in the game.
I'm addicted to League about as much as I was to soft drinks, if their in the house I'll drink them, but if I'm at the store I won't buy them, so they're never in the house, it's been years and now I hate the taste of soft drinks. Same with League, if I have an account I'll just end up coming back whether I actually want to or not, it's always not.
Tract (NA)
: This is clearly an extrnely deeply thought out post, and of course you have a right to feel that way. However, I highly recommend that you do NOT have your account deleted. Sometime, the problems you have could be solved, and you may want to play again, in which case you would REALLY regret your choice, as you account wouldn't be recoverable. I for one have occasionally stopped actively playing for stretches of time but I have always come back, and you likely will too. If you really can't stand playing with some of those issues feel free to add me, if I have time I promise I try to make the game as pleasant as possible for my team =]
This isn't something I just decided, I've been waiting for months to see signs of improvement. I don't see anything changes as far as Riot's concerned, they've made it clear the direction they want the game to go in. Recently I stopped playing for about a month, game was only worse when I came back, but I played anyway out of habit. I'm prepared to regret it.
: * A report system doing nothing? You haven't been around this sub for very long have you. There are threads here daily about how "I was wrongfully banned" or "I got banned for this?", just because you didn't get a popup doesn't mean that that player wasn't punished. If you've played thousands of hours that you claim that you have, I guarantee you've lost your temper on more than one occasion, did you get banned for that? No, because Riot doesn't ban you for just having a bad game every once in a while. * Not having a sandbox mode is a poor excuse for quitting the game. If you really feel that strongly about it, then there really isn't any point in trying to convince you otherwise. * The solo que thing, I can see how you're upset about it, but really like many others I think you're misinterpreting what Riot is saying. THE MOST DEFINITIVE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT about solo que is "there is a world where solo que does not exist". That isn't saying "solo que is not coming back ever" it's a possibility. Riot has put a lot of time and resources into DQ, and they want to try and get that to work. If they released solo que alongside with it, that means that DQ is left a broken system. That doesn't solve anyone's problems. - On a side note, from what I've read, the Riot survey for DQ was done through e-mail and through a survey in the LOL client itself. A straw pole on Reddit is just as misleading. * I agree that Tyler1 should have been banned sooner, but it's pretty hard to link all these accounts to one person. It really wasn't until the League of Children video came out that Tyler1 really got famous. * If you're not having fun playing the game, then maybe you should quit. There's no point in playing a game if you aren't playing with friends or having fun. - There have been plenty of other big games that have come out since League started that is supposed to take away from the player base, and yet, League is still strong as ever. It looks like you're basically quitting over 1, thinking that Riot lied to you specifically about solo que and then tried to infer that it's "Riot speak for never going to happen" about the sandbox mode and 2, the balance of the game making it not fun anymore. I'm not downvoting you, but I don't agree with any of your points either. If you decide to move to another game, I wish you luck.
All the times I got matched with an intentional feeder that I played with and reported last game. Almost every troll I've been matched with had a match history full of obvious troll. If you don't get a popup, then they weren't punished at least not anytime soon after their game with you. I have lost my temper/gotten salty, I don't think anyone should be banned for those things. What I mean by toxic is the complete and unrestrained verbal abuse that takes place in a lot of League matches. Most of the time I'm not even involved, I can't tell you how many games I've been in where my adc went apeshit on the supp for taking 1 cs, or how many times a laner has lost and cussed out the jungler, sure I can mute them, but just knowing that someone else is taking that abuse is too much to deal with every other game. Lack of a sandbox mode is only one reason why, but it's important in the fact that every other major moba has one, even the new ones with tiny playerbases, while it's not that important in itself, Riots reasoning for not having one is something I disagree with. Understanding about your point on DQ, but Riot could have done a million things differently to keep things from becoming like they are now. One of which is leaving the old Solo/Duo Q in the game instead of taking it out when adding DQ. They took the freedom away from the players on how they get to play the game by themselves or with friends, and gave us the option to play with friends or don't play at all, I'm personally going with the latter. Also I'm referring specifically to the Riot comment saying SQ would be out in 2 weeks, there was no misinterpretation possilbe, it was a lie. > On a side note, from what I've read, the Riot survey for DQ was done through e-mail and through a survey in the LOL client itself. A straw pole on Reddit is just as misleading. It's not about where it was asked, do you know the actual question Riot used? It was basically this, **I enjoy being able to play League with friends. Yes? No?** Question is paraphrased as I don't remember it exactly, but it's very close to that. Riot took this blatantly biased question designed to get a specific answer to try and make it seem like the community favors DQ. > If you're not having fun playing the game, then maybe you should quit. There's no point in playing a game if you aren't playing with friends or having fun. I have friends in client that I can play with, but the main friend I qued with already quit League, I assume he just lost interest, but since he quit I'd rather play League alone but I can't do that........... > It looks like you're basically quitting over 1, thinking that Riot lied to you specifically about solo que and then tried to infer that it's "Riot speak for never going to happen" about the sandbox mode and 2, the balance of the game making it not fun anymore. I'm not downvoting you, but I don't agree with any of your points either. If you decide to move to another game, I wish you luck. I'll check back in a year or so to see if there's a sandbox mode, I'm not expecting it but if there is I'll honestly be very surprised. Thank you for being respectful, and since your staying with Leauge I wish you luck on the fields of justice.
ff4sk (NA)
: >Shaco >Wu >GP >Shen good taste op, you will be missed
There are a lot of toxic players, but also some that aren't, I'll miss you as well.
Kei143 (NA)
: good job in being able to get your account deleted.
It hurts, not something I want to do, but I need to.
Sniper 0 (NA)
: Riot is not the problem, lets just get that straight. Your mindset is the problem. DQ isn't that bad honestly. If you don't event think about what it is it shouldn't bother you. It still feels like solo queue to me. The boards are actually the minority here. Most people don't care enough to stop playing because of DQ. That's why it hasn't gone anywhere. Bringing back solo queue just creates longer queue times... Plus the reason most people bring up DQ is because they need something to scapegoat for their inability to climb. Tyler1.... Seriously dude, you're quitting over that piece of .... well you get the idea? The guy promotes toxicity on his stream openly. He's basically creating more players who think that kind of behavior is appropriate. He's still trying to find loopholes to do it. He's streaming himself coaching people and he's being a toxic ass. Sure toxicity is entertaining... when you're not on the receiving end of it. Riot has clearly state that they will bring a training mode to the game... that is sandbox esque but not a free for all. The report system clearly does something. I mean take Tyler1 for example... **Edit: Why do you feel the need to mention downvotes if you were expecting it? I'm almost positive this is just a cry for attention... **
No matter what you say or believe, the bottom line is Riot lied, and if you think nothing else I said is a problem, this most definitely is. If having a mindset to not play a game made by a company that lies to its players is a bad mindset, then that's one problem I'm very glad to have. DQ is that bad. A huge part of this game for me personally is the competitiveness of ranked, and DQ makes Rankings worthless, whether or not you care about such things are up to you, but it matters very much to me. Yes, because Tyler1 was only the most famous toxic player, but he's far from the only one. A training mode is not a sandbox mode, or an acceptable replacement for one. While a decent training mode will help new players it does nothing for experienced players. Also I wouldn't hold my breath for this training mode, even if it had a date set it might still not ever become a thing. It wasn't the report system that did something about Tyler1, Riot themselves stepped in to deal with Tyler1.
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Mandang0 (NA)
: Wow, you should get some help for your anger problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urcqQC02YbY
To be completely honest I'm not even angry. All I did was say to you what the enemy team said to my team last game. Literally the most toxic team I've ever played against. I came back and read your comment and thought myself, Well you're the one I'll be toxic to before I uninstall, because I know I won't be punished. I done playing a game that has a report system that does nothing. Honestly, what I just said to you should get me instantly banned, but nothing will happen, and I don't want to play a game like that. Sorry about the toxicity, I'm just done.
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: what a boosted animal.
: See the thing is he's melee, so you could just pop the shield for free and wait until it's down IDK why you're 'trading health for his shield' when you could easily avoid it
So you mean play a ranged champion? You could, but you'll have no kill pressure, you can pop his shield easily sure, but if you try and all in him he'll rape your cooldowns with windwall.
: You realize that he could take 1 damage and the shield would pop, right?..... You don't have to deal 310 damage to a 300 damage shield in this instance. Wow. This is special.
That means you have to deal damage to him just to pop it, but he'll deal actual damage to you while you're just popping a shield so you can damage him at all, not to mention the shield is easily refreshed.
: it does absorb too much damage in general, but it's easily manage-able in lane. you can just auto-attack it ONE time, and wait for the shield to fade THEN attack.
I attack him, he attacks me, I pop his shield, he pops my health. I'm seeing a lot of Yasuo's top lately where their are less ranged champions. It's not about lane though, I made this post because I ganked a Yasuo as Wukong at level 3 to try and take pressure off my Irelia, I E-Qed him and his shield absorbed all the damage and he chucked my health with auto's. A shield absorbing a little damage is fine, but absorbing a champions entire basic combo early game is too much. I've also ganked Yasuo's as Gragas and it absorbs most of that damage early as well.
Jamaree (NA)
: Just AA it once...then back up and wait for it to fade then?
Would a Yasuo let me auto him and then walk away without doing anything? He would win the trade, and if you fight him you'll have to go through all of the shield while he's going through your actual hp.
: nah, it exactly absorbs 1 aa worth of damage if you are not trash
That's complete lie, it absorbs between 100-510 damage, that means 100 minimum, early game most champions only have 60-80 AD, and armor is factored into the shield, saying it "exactly absorbs 1 aa worth of damage" is outright wrong.
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: It's a general indicator, it doesn't accurately match the range or width of the ability, though it is actually sort of close. The range of the ability does match the listed range of 1175. You can check it easily against Lux's Light Binding as they both have the same ability range of 1175.
Yeah, I wish it wasn't just a general indicator, I hate turning off quick-cast as Blitz, and lining up my grab perfectly in a bush only to grab a minion. It's like a needle that's impossible to thread. > You can check it easily Lol you make it sound like we have a sandbox mode, I'm serious, it would actually take quite a while and be very tedious to compare 2 abilities on different champs.
KinneyJ (NA)
: Every spell goes further than what it says it does.
Dark Binding is blatant about it, and it's absurd coupled with its extremely questionable hitbox.
: I always though it was by time, if I get 2 camps and then scout he is 800 but if I do 3 camps and then scout is 1060
I always get it after clearing 3 camps, doesn't have to do with time as far as I can tell.
: i think the more times the scuttle is slained the tankier it gets
I talking about the very first scuttle before it's ever slain, sometimes 800 and others 1060.
Duke Anax (EUW)
: Are you sure you didn't miss your opponent killing one?
I'm sure, I always notice this because I get Scuttle after clearing 3 camps so it's the first scuttle and no one has got it yet.
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: Ive literally 1v4ed people with illaoi before... Shes meant to be an offtank who gets into fights and uses her ult which if you hit multiple people, you can literally instant kill entire teams with her her Q has leagues best AD scaling out of any ability in the game, and all of her tentacles including her ulted ones get this damage You can ult the spirits you pull with her E to trigger the ult Your problem is you mechanically dont understand how she is played, shes not an all in style champ, shes more of a chill back, farm while you can, if an enemy or 2 gets too close, jump on them and obliterate them Her kit is very strong in the hands of someone who understands her mechanics. a big reason why her winrate is so low is alot of bad people pick her, not because she is a bad champ
The only way that would ever work is if they stayed in range of your ult instead of walking out like they should. If you 1v4 with her then they didn't know how to play against Illaoi at all. One good ability isn't enough to make a champion good, and it's pretty easy to dodge her Q. That would only hit one person, and do severely reduced damage. > Her kit is very strong in the hands of someone who understands her mechanics. a big reason why her winrate is so low is alot of bad people pick her, not because she is a bad champ Win rates don't lie, she only has a 51% win rate with people who have 125 or more games with her, and she barely breaks 50% with 50-125 games. It's not bad people picking her, she's just a bad champion. Mechanically she's not even hard to play.
: I just played a One For All against her with Amumu, went 18-2-30. To be fair though Amumu is straight OP in One For All. A lot of my allies died way too much to her stacked ults though as instead of going in unloading and backing off they went for the sustained fights. The idea of going in forcing ults and backing out made her ults somewhat useless for those of us that did it. The rest just got massacred even with all armor/hp. That said I think her ult is meant as a zone control in teamfights rather than a slaughter zone and they work well at doing that. They can force the enemy out of a teamfight or into losing it if they stay. It's also great at holding towers against sieges. There are definitely worse ults out there.
I feel like this champion would get massacred by anyone. Yeah, her ult is a bad disengage tool at best, as in just walk away until it's over and then go back to fighting.
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WinBoat (NA)
: You cry just about on every post you make on a lot of champions.
Not really, only a third of my post are about champion balance.
: No, glass cannon is a term that's been around since early D&D days. It's in reference to characters that use mostly ranged abilities that deal high amounts of damage, but have no durability. Graves is tanky. Graves is not a glass cannon. You are using the terminology wrong. Something cannot be a glass cannon that is tanky. The moment it is tanky, it is no longer a glass cannon. Glass cannon isn't even used in league as often as it is used in other RPG elements. Don't try to school an old-school RPG player. In fact, let's get really technical. Glass cannons are reference to magic users. Graves, not being a magic user, would qualify as a paper tiger, not a glass cannon, if he weren't tanky. However, he is tanky so he is not a paper tiger. Both terms of which are used far more in Diablo 2 than League. A glass cannon or paper tiger cannot change. They are a finite something. If that something changes, it does not become a paper tiger or glass cannon that is modified, it loses the title paper tiger or glass cannon. If you read the names with some common sense it flat out says it. Either way, you are wrong in your terminology usage.
Graves is a problem because he builds glass cannon and deals high amounts of damage from range, but is still incredibly tanky building minimal defense. Graves is supposed to be a glass cannon, and builds like a glass cannon, but is more durable than tanks building tank items. > If you read the names with some common sense it flat out says it. To be fair just reading "glass cannon" never having heard that term before, I'm pretty sure most people would assume it's something that does physical damage, cuz y'know, it's a cannon. Anyway **I concede, you're right, I was wrong,** but the point of my post wasn't about semantics of gaming terms, the point is Graves is a problem because he builds glass cannon and deals high amounts of damage from range, but is still incredibly tanky building minimal defense. Graves is supposed to be a glass cannon, and builds like a glass cannon, but is more durable than tanks building tank items.
MLDzXnRRR (EUNE)
: I remember one game where I played vs Graves top as Rengar losing horribly the laning and even feeding 1 or 2 kills, but still we won, because I had Exhaust. Graves can't do anything vs Crit Rengar with some armor and exhaust. Probably any assasin with exhaust can 1v1 him.
No matter how you look at it, Graves should shit on Rengar. Just because you beat a Graves as Rengar in one game doesn't mean that's an effective strategy, it just means the Graves you were against was bad.
WinBoat (NA)
: If it took a hour+ don't blame the champions. Also, you can't expect all champions literally to be the same. I don't understand what's with you people. Certain champions are weak early game and strong later game. Some are consistent all game, some are strong early and fall off late game. It might be too hard for you to understand as a human being and it's ok, a lot of people don't understand that champions are created differently. You can't have all base damages be 1 and all abilities=1.
You're right, Graves is strong early, mid, and late game, and I should except that because that's how he was created. Yeah no, that's bullshit logic designed to prevent change from happening.
: If he is too tanky to kill then he is not a glass cannon. Glass cannons and paper tigers are dps based characters in games that are to frail to afford to take many hits. They lack any form of durability in trade off for exceptionally huge dps. He may have been a cannon, but what you are describing is not a glass cannon.
> They lack any form of durability in trade off for exceptionally huge dps. You have no idea what you're talking about, Graves has 120 bonus armor and magic resist late game. Glass cannon refers to builds in League and nothing else, his build was all damage items, some of which had defensive aspects.
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: > Talk about taking your sweet time to fix a problem {{champion:83}}
Yeah, Yorick's that one problem they never talk about, just swept him under the rug.
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Thurst28 (NA)
: I like doing my research before commenting on some of these. Masters and higher, top 15 champs played... {{champion:236}} {{champion:81}}{{champion:79}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:268}} {{champion:7}} Diamond and Plat list is nearly the same. What do all these champs all have in commons, minus supports tho they have it to. Mobility and lots of it. Even the supps are pretty mobile. Which makes all them pretty forgive champs. This is really high tier players using the games broken points or strengths to win. Wanna know who doesn't make this list because they are banned the most. {{champion:203}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:54}} I made both list{{champion:104}} {{champion:268}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:7}} Pretty sure that's old Malz because I think the new one sucks but either way. All these champs either have lost of mobility, CC, or a mix of both. Personally I am so tired of champs being super mobile with high burst damage and super forgiving do to both of these. Some of these champs I play but have stopped because it stopped being fun. While winning is fun I'd rather enjoy the interaction of fights then just playing the same 25 champs just to win. And now a days be forced to play or ban these champs to win. It's getting old. And every new champ that comes out gets lots of mobility or CC. Note: I don't have an issue with champs being mobile. My issue is with them being so mobile, with so much sustain, with so much burst/nuke ability, and lots of range poke. Their is no defense for a kit like that unless you play these super champs too, essentially eliminating the need for the other 100 champs in the pool to pick from.
Nice work, it's really undeniable when you present it like this.
: Lissandra's passive is screaming for a rework.
Lissandra has the 3rd lowest mana regen at level 1 and is tied for the lowest at level 18. Lissandra's passive only covers up her terrible mana regen, it might actually be better if she had normal mana regen and literally no passive. Lissandra doesn't have a passive, her mana regen is the worst in the game, and her passive is only there so that she has one, it doesn't actually do anything, it's usefulness might actually be negative, since she might get more mana from having normal mana regen than she saves with her passive.
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Jbels (NA)
: inb4 life steal against baron cut to 50%
Aatrox could prob still do it with 3 items if that happened.
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: Vel's ult just feels bad now no matter how you use it.
Wait, so the champion that everyone told Riot not to change, doesn't feel good to play after being changed when he was already fine like he was. How can this be? I mean, Riot obviously knows what's better for an already balanced champion than that champions dedicated playerbase! Right?
: Fighters are officially dead - potential solution
Except {{champion:62}} let's rename him "the fighter king" because even when fighters are officially dead he's in a good spot :D
: >flash is 10/10 On average, yes. Most players in most games take it. Ten out of ten players.
And then there's that one critic that's never impressed and gave it a 9 {{champion:35}}
: In a sence, no champion is safe. All champions will be champed in some point in time, so I mean, it is best to just adapt to the changed, and pick up what you are comfortable with.
As a {{champion:62}} main, I feel pretty safe tbh.
: {{champion:78}} Passive: I'm Captain America Q: Shortest Skillshot in the game W: YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!! E: The wall is your friend! Make friends! R: Looks like Team Rocket is blasting off again!
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