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: So there is true damage and true invisibility now where’s true defense?
wow I didn't expect this post to blow up xD I like people's ideas of a true defense where armor and magic resist are not affected by penetration.
: {{champion:10}} {{champion:44}} There is your true defense. Edit: Completely forgot {{champion:203}} Edit #2: {{champion:23}} deserves some love too
Hmm so two true defense champs when any champ that builds ad can go conquer and get true dmg Seems we need more true defense champs!
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: seems like a different version of aftershock
I actually copy and pasted conqueror and replaced the damage with damage reduction lol xD to reduced true damage to tanks, but instead of damage like aftershock you get more damage reducation
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FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Its not just conqueror imo.
Your right it’s riot games not wanting tanks in the game even when some people find it fun
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Because tanks dont counter assassins currenty, conqueror makes them weak vs fighters, and the overall damage is so high that tankyness is weak.
> [{quoted}](name=FireDrizzle,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEYcV5zK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-17T21:44:07.260+0000) > > Because tanks dont counter assassins currenty, conqueror makes them weak vs fighters, and the overall damage is so high that tankyness is weak. I know conquer is op I was being saracastic because in this meta tanks should be op if that keystone didn’t exist :(
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: champs who shield or buff are called "enchanters," not supports, otherwise you leave out the likes of {{champion:89}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:143}}
> [{quoted}](name=IcyPepper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klnhQ6EE,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-05-31T16:10:25.371+0000) > > champs who shield or buff are called "enchanters," not supports, otherwise you leave out the likes of {{champion:89}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:143}} So is Pyke more of a catcher then assassin?
: If you're talking about champion select, it is based off of what roles was played for that champion in the previous patch.
> [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F3bzQ3AV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-31T16:00:10.554+0000) > > If you're talking about champion select, it is based off of what roles was played for that champion in the previous patch. I’m talking about if you go to the collection page and look at the classes he is labeled as a support not an assassin
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: > [{quoted}](name=Reworks Are OP,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klnhQ6EE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-05-31T13:14:54.359+0000) > > I mean I get that would be his role but his playstyle is not shields heals or buffs xD Supports aren't defined as "champ who shields or buffs."
> [{quoted}](name=whizkid75,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klnhQ6EE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-31T14:22:10.426+0000) > > Supports aren't defined as "champ who shields or buffs." Define support for me and see if Pyke fits that description :P
: LOL Riot really just wants Pyke to be a support. It's actually kind of funny. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=klnhQ6EE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-31T12:27:30.701+0000) > > LOL Riot really just wants Pyke to be a support. > > It's actually kind of funny. > > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} I mean I get that would be his role but his playstyle is not shields heals or buffs xD
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: Is Pyke labeled a support or Assassin on the beta client
: > [{quoted}](name=Reworks Are OP,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prsA3TYl,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:49:17.754+0000) > > Thanks for clarifying I wanted to know which tab they put him under for classes in the client He has not yet been released on the PBE client.
> [{quoted}](name=TwinkiePro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prsA3TYl,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:55:06.202+0000) > > He has not yet been released on the PBE client. Oh I though he was released today
: 2 yesses. That's a yes to both.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prsA3TYl,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:25:42.887+0000) > > 2 yesses. That's a yes to both. Thanks for clarifying I wanted to know which tab they put him under for classes in the client
: Yes
> [{quoted}](name=IcyPepper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prsA3TYl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:16:47.562+0000) > > Yes Again ... yes labeled as support or yes labeled as Assassin
Baval (NA)
: probably
> [{quoted}](name=Baval,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=prsA3TYl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:12:07.416+0000) > > probably Probably which one!? :/
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: Tanks are not allowed to deal high amounts of damage because that is not the principle of the role. A tank soaks damage, interferes with opponents by slapping them with snares and CC, and protect their allies. If you had someone who did that AND dealt tons of damage, you would have a massively unkillable threat that will utterly destroy your team because you won't be able to kill them before they kill you. This very reason is why things like Tank Fizz, Tankali, Tankko, and Tankuo were utterly obliterated from the game. Being a damage dealer and being unkillable is extremely unhealthy for the game.
But uh right now tanks deal no dmg AND are just as squishy as anyone else late game... :/ so why play one? CC < Damage
: Tank is a class. Support is a role. Tanks can be in several roles - top lane, jungle, or support. Being in any of these roles doesn't remove your tank status. Braum is a tank who is designed for the support role. Tahm Kench is also a tank designed for the support role. Nautilus is a tank designed for top lane, who is also played support. Thresh is a tank designed for support. Sejuani, Zac, and Amumu are tanks designed for the jungle. Just because Braum and Kench are played as supports doesn't disqualify them from being tanks.
I get what your saying but I play tanks top and jungle :/ so I just thought it would be nice if they designed a tank for jungle or top its been years since they designed a (edit new tank not the reworked gimp ones) tank for that role. But your right I should of said that ,
: couldn't you count Rek'sai pre-rework as a tank released for jungle?
When I say tank I mean they place the new champ in the tank role page xD meaning they designed that champ as a tank
Ralanr (NA)
: Because it was killing bot lane too much.
Actually isn't Tahm Kench making a comeback top lane recently in korea? I don't usually keep up with that stuff though xD
: everyone already forgetting that old sejuani was exactly that feels bad
I honestly didn't know that, didn't play a lot of old sejuani. If I knew that would of probably played her more xD woops!
: if rework Zac, Sej and Galio are what we can expect from new tanks then nothing would make me happier if Riot never made another one
Haha yeah the last 3 were bad but they have had there good tank reworks too, Sion for one, but many say Sion was a great tank rework, but I actually like Poppy's ult and w really make her fill the warden tank playstyle I know her numbers were to high for awhile though.
: what about {{champion:150}} ?
riot considers him a specialty type class cause his playstyle changes based on form
Sujiren (NA)
: I dont get why tanks are not allowed to do damage anymore. Yes there are utility tanks like braum. alistar, leona, and they are supports, because they are naturally tanky and dont scale well with items. But then there are top lane tanks, shen, sion, malphite, poppy they arent supposed to not do damage, because they need items to get tanky.
Now wouldn't that be cool, a tank that ACTUALLY scaled into the late game, not sure how it would work but that would be sweet!
: I would assume the lack of new tanks has something to do with the current reworks. The last two reworked champs, WW and Galio, are both tanks, and their reworks essentially removed the previous champion, and added something new to the game. Then there was the tank gameplay update. Adding a new tank to the game, would be stacking it upon these pretty recent events, lessening the impact of a new tank champ.
Yeah that makes sense but isn't warwick considered just a tanky diver? I feel he does to much dmg to be just a tank
: Why can't a tank be a support?
They can, but that seems to be their strongest role right now. I'm just saying its been awhile since we got a new tank champion for other positions tanks play like jungle or top
Ralanr (NA)
: I've had success with Poppy in the past. Haven't played her on rift in a while.
Yeah but that's what I mean, most of the playable tanks are just reworks. Don't get me wrong I like those reworks, (look at my name) xD but I just what a brand new refreshing tank champion to play, call me selfish haha
: Riot hates tanks. The people who spend lots of money play fighters, assassins and marksmen. They don't like is when they can't oneshot something.
Ralanr (NA)
: I mean...Tahm was intended to have top lane potential. That didn't work out, but still. Though I would like a new top lane or jungle tank.
Right? and after they made Galio more of a tank I think their next new tank will be more modernized for what League is today, I seem to only have success with Galio or Sion XD
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: There is no reason to play them even when you are on an organized team, because being either a) demolished or b) highly zoned out of creeps means you won't contribute much tankiness later on anyway.
The thing is I love tanks, I use to play them in wow but I guess in a pvp environment a tank cant work
: > [{quoted}](name=KoKoboto,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yWncQ3mr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-05-18T00:23:11.039+0000) > > I feel like tanks always lost against fighters. Been playing Nautilus top, always coming out of lane behind in farm. Play passively, try my best to farm, do better in teamfights and win. I&#x27;ll try other tanks before I deem them &quot;removed from top lane&quot;. I tried Poppy a few times as well but Poppy just kinda sucks at the moments. Thinking I&#x27;ll try Malphite and Shen next. I usually play Sion as a full out health Zombie juggernaut (try to do as much before I die and run rampant as a zombie) but I&#x27;ll try him with a tank build top lane. actually they didnt. not too long ago, poppy and nautilus came out on top in trades with fighters, just since they were so tanky that they won battles of attrition. i remember when top lane naut and poppy were meta they definitely did. poppy got nerfed since then. its only a couple few fighters in my opinion that were always able to beat tanks. like darius for example.
I get that but now any champ with the fervor mastery wins through autoing more... even with tabis
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mecharri (EUW)
: They won't, Maokais ult was a balancing nightmare to riot. They just don't know how to make auras fair for everyone
:( even if they just give the dmg reduction to maokai? I think the only reason it was op was because it was a dmg reduction aura, if only maokai gets that problem solved
: Zac - Revert Ult Change
if zac gets his ult back I want maokai's ult back too :)
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: April 25
Will you ever use the updated class lists in the client? Example Nocturne classified as diver rather then assassin?
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: April 7
Why not do disruptor / enchanter / warden like you classified them in your class sub roles... also are you ever gonna update the class role on the client? To have such classes as juggernauts and slayers? Also let them pick what kind of support they will play, example when you pick the support role u can pick between disruptor / enchanter / warden examples: warden: braum/taric disruptor: zyra / brand enchanter: lulu / soraka
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