: I think you should remove Ryze from the beginner pool because he is a pretty complicated champion post rework. Also no love for Twisted Treeline FeelsBadMan
I have seen a lot of comments on removing Ryze from the starting champion pool and I can understand where everyone's concern is coming from. Though we do not have the power to change what champions are in the starting list, with the collective concerns I have seen in this thread I will be sure to let the team who owns this responsibility know of them. Twisted Treeline should see some well deserved love in a future update :).
: Hey, I know this may be a little out of place, but could you add a section maybe about say the community as well? Like maybe a little page about what this community has done (Like the Nautilus Reef and how big the LCS tournaments are), but also talk about things like the basics of communicating and what some popular slang terms in the game are (Such as "Leash" and "Gank".) I know it may not be much, but I feel bad for all the junglers I left in my early levels because I had no idea what a leash was. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Two stellar ideas in one post. Totally putting the League Terminology idea down in my notes. The introduction to the League Community and how awesome you guys are would be a nice way to welcome new players into the League family :).
: I also think the whole thornmail thing in tutorial is a bad idea. Also, you should tell players to build one of each item in intro bots. Seen too many build 8 kindelgems on Kha'zix.
I hear you, and I think that maybe something like an item/build rundown previously mentioned here could possibly alleviate some of the confusion. While I cannot change the tutorial myself, I can pass on the information to those who have the power. What my team can do is look into way that the guide can possibly lessen future, multiple Kindlegem Kha'zix builds.
: ***
While I can understand the frustration, all of what you mentioned isn't what our team works on. Our team's focus is making League easier to understand for new players.
: Unless I misread that guide, the guide mentions the free rotation champions, rather than the starting champion pool. I mean suggested builds, but if you want to try popular then by all means go for it.
I can't seem to find where the champions section mentions the free rotation, all I see are the 10 starting champions new players have access too for free up til level 6. Suggested builds for the starting champions does sound like a good idea, I will note that down with the other ideas I have been given from others on this post :).
: Didn't you guys change some runes a while back? As in, removing an entire tier? I think those should be in the guide if it wasn't already. The champion section involving this week's rotation; maybe you can say which ones are easier to learn than others. I wouldn't want to feel like a bad player just because I don't play Azir well my first weak compared to Annie. You can have a video showing the sound turrets make when aggroing you. Unless it's already in there. You can also have a list of example items depending on the role of a champion, or even the champion themselves. You haven't updated that part on each champion's page for example. Explain their basic functions too.
The runes and masteries section of the guide hasn't gotten its update just yet, we started off with updating information we felt would help new players learn the basics of the game before delving into some of the more advanced game mechanics. With this said it does not mean we are going to ignore those pages, this update is just the tip of the iceberg. While a rundown of free rotation champions does sound awesome and I think that it is something that is covered on an all champion spectrum on the league wiki. The guide itself focuses on the starting champion pool that players have access to from levels one to five to help them get use to multiple roles and play styles before giving them access to the free champion rotation. Our new structures video does make sure to point out that aggro ping turrets let out when you're under fire :). You can find it on the structures page in the guide or here if you want a quick look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNyCdvZFe2c For the items for a role/champion, do you mean giving examples of popular or suggested builds to use in game?
: You mix terminology in the champion page. The problem is you use the same phrasing for different things. For example: Under champions: Ashe Common Position: Bot Under Roles: Marksman Common Positions: Attack Damage (ADC) That can be confusing
Thanks for catching this! This is definitely something that could cause more confusion then good. I will bring this up so we can we can work to reduce the confusion the difference in terminology may cause.
: Would love to see items added as well! Explain maybe scalings and what items go with scalings (ad/ap).
Awesome Idea! I feel your idea for an item rundown for new players could help relieve some stress for someone opening the store tab for the first time. It is something I will bring up in one of our meetings about future update ideas.
  Rioter Comments
Petrome (NA)
: Permanent Ban Unfair
You were suspended for not only verbally abusing and harassing players on a consistent basis, but you were also using hate speech in your games. It does not matter how much money you spend or how old your account is, everyone is held to the same accountability when it comes to their behavior.
: Forever will not receive any reward because I said the word "RETARD" once
Are you talking about another account you play on? I went to take a look into the chat logs that lead to your chat restrictions but found that this account has been serving a permanent suspension since last year.
Veruka (NA)
: Sexism?
I am not entirely sure what exactly happened in your game but that seems like someone may have been fishing for some sort of response to their negative behavior. Good on ya for not taking their bait and firing back at them. Just to clarify, trolling is trolling, one's gender, beliefs, nationality or anything else are not taken into consideration when punishments are issued.
: @RIOT Rhojin A response to something (quoted) you said in forum would appreciate a reply back.
Okay lets do this, sorry for posting so late today has been sort of a mess. Everyone is held accountable for their own actions in game, no matter if they are the one who started the display of negative behavior or the players who respond to the actions with their own negative actions. Neither side gets away with their negative behavior, and both can see punishments issued to their account, if we never punished anyone for antagonizing others in games and being flat out dicks, my job would be a lot easier. But the truth of the matter is nobody gets away scott free, if they are reported by others and they are indeed being negative in games they will see some sort of punishment issued to their account. Now you may not see what was done to another player's account it may appear they may be still playing games but that could mean that they are currently serving chat restrictions instead of a suspension. With that said, when these punishments are issued they are accompanied by chat logs of multiple games where negative behavior was displayed in games it wasn't just for one game where someone felt they were in the right firing back. Multiple reports from a premade do not instantly result in a ban or anything happening to your account, the only time disciplinary actions are taken is when the reports are valid. Even if you ran into a negative player being defended by their friends, as long as you do not fire back at them and simply report them at the end of the game, nothing will happen to your account. While some players feel they are in the right responding to negative behavior with even more negative behavior, the fact of the matter is that this only creates an even more negative experience for all those involved. I don't see this the scenario with two people duking it out in a fight that started with someone punching someone else working, as there is no violence or any physical altercations taking place. Not to mention rules and laws in the real world are set and enforced differently that the rules and regulations of a video game. These in game situations are more of a shouting match in the middle of an establishment where all parties involved are asked to leave and not come back until they cool off. Just as a last point, in the four years that I have been working behavior cases I have seen multiple claims of "They started it" or "I was defending myself" come in through tickets. The vast majority of the time, the player writing in was the aggressor in the game and they were not suspended for defending themselves but for initially going after others in their games for whatever reason.
: @RIOT Rhojin A response to something (quoted) you said in forum would appreciate a reply back.
Man sorry for not seeing this earlier. I will try to post some sort of response in here regarding your questions sometime before the end of Sunday. Right now's its 5am and I'm questioning why I am still even awake.
: I have about 4 other accounts that are level 30, how am I supposed to show improvement & have riot consider some kind of alternative when you don't even know if I'm showing improvement? I've lost all respect for riot, I'll make sure I get all 4 other accounts banned as well & go ruin abunch of ranked games for people. Thank you riot, you've successfully ripped off yet another player.
You go from asking if there is anything you can do to get your account back to threatening to ruin games on four other account as revenge for being banned within ten minuets. Why would we consider a second chance when you're continuing to display negative behavior on the boards?
: Account banned after 7 years.
You were punished for your consistent verbal abuse and harassment against other players in your game, not because you were only defending yourself. You tend to rage at players who are playing poorly, demand reports against them and telling them to refund skins and champions if they did not perform to your expectations. This was abuse carried across the three chatlogs that were supplied to you when your suspension was issued. Before the permanent suspension hit your account, you went through multiple chat restrictions and a two week suspension for the same behavior. The punishment on your account is more than justified. In regards to your self defense claim, you can still be punished for firing back at another players. When it comes to your suspension it only matters what you do, not what others do. While you may feel that you are in the right defending yourself or others, two wrongs never make a right. If you run into players displaying negative or toxic behavior in game you can mute them and report them at the end of the game. The moment you fire back with your own negative behavior you warrant any reports made against you and justify any disciplinary actions take against your account.
: Gets a chat restriction for getting flamed by 4 people
You were not given chat restrictions for simply "defending yourself", the most recent restrictions were do to three recent games, showed you verbally abusing and harassing other players on a consistent basis. Though a chat restriction will not be enough it seems, as looking through the logs I also noticed that you were also using hate speech to attack players so a permanent suspension has been issued to your account.
Dawnkin (NA)
: So riot is racist then i guess
You being banned for your continued harassment and abuse of player's in your games is in no means a sign that hate speech is tolerated or protected in League of Legends. Looking through your account I found multiple punishments and chat restrictions on your account pertaining to your abuse and harassment of other players, this seems to normally happen when players were not performing well. We have zero tolerance for players using hate speech and much like how you were punished, reporting them is the best way to bring their abuse to our attention.
: Please tell me
Looking into the chat log that lead to your account being chat restricted I found this.... [0:31] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): ddin't switch my runes.. yay [0:48] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): nah just5 gonan make me a little slower is all [0:58] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): ym jungle and adc masteries are almost identical [3:15] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): this kat omg [4:19] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): gg ff at 20 [4:26] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): this is why i don't play ranked.. at all [4:35] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): KAT YOU DOVE INTO THEM [4:37] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): that was your fault [4:51] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): i watche dyou dive honeyt don't tell me that ok [6:51] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): my god [7:55] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): you cannot help rigth now kat [7:57] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): save it for later [9:34] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): WHAT diana? [10:08] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): BULLSHIT OMG [10:20] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): that and you dove towards red [11:50] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): HOW doers blitz punch so hard?! [11:53] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): dude has NOI ad [12:08] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): susm? [12:22] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): meanign no flash? [16:19] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): he has no mana lulu [16:26] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): ult me when i dive him [18:20] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): wow.... [18:28] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): becfaus ei had him [18:34] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): then zed just coems in out of nowhere [18:40] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): i didnt' se ehim [18:49] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): diana.. you are 1/2 and no better so hush [19:06] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): LOL you LOST your lane [19:20] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): 1/2 idiot [19:26] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): ONE AND TWO [19:42] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): LOL get reported noob [19:51] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): report diana.. toxic as fu [20:11] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): says she rekt her lane.. but loses tower.. blames me for it [20:35] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): she can't spell either [20:41] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): so salty [20:50] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): she';s 1/2 and lost tower [20:56] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): so no.. she didn't rekt it [21:05] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): says the kat who DOVE LOL [21:10] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): she NOT winnign she LKOST TURRET [21:20] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): l;ike REALLY people how is losing a lane winning it? [21:23] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): PLEASE tell me [21:36] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): diana shut up YOU'RE the onyl one mad.. such a woman [21:44] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): muted and reported hate maonger [22:33] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): yeah.. just liek diana "winning her lane" by losing tower [26:22] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): bullshit you were not in range in the slightest [26:41] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): this is why i don't play ranked.. bitchy and mouthy team mates.. toxic as all hell [26:58] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): you weren't but whateverit's done [27:11] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): i' have not CURSE or insulte dANYONE on this team lulu.. so shut up [27:22] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): ye syou did zed .. before i hit my W and ran otu of range [27:47] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): it's not actually [27:55] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): i have been NICE until you all ran your mouth at me [28:03] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): oh yes zed riot NEVER has bugs [28:25] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): not crying.. it was bs but it's over now [29:23] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): keep talkign trash diana MORe to repor ty ou and get you chat banned or account banned for [29:44] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): btw.. LUL banned my champo which is why i'm sucking just fyoi [29:56] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): she's a liar [30:26] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): kat you have NO idea how to use jhin so be quiet [30:40] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): nah zac.. i'll keep it wher ei please :D [31:01] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): yes report me for nothing LOL won't make a difference [31:18] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): LOL no passiveness here lol [31:50] [All] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): i love how my team says i'm garabge buit lets you gusy rape base for one kill and doesn't even get the kill [32:17] OptimalPr1imus (Draven): gj team.. LOL AHAHAHAHAHAH such a "great job" ranked is FULL of trash i'm never playing this again.. so BAD The constant harassment of other players in this game is more than enough to justify a punishment being issued to your account.
onoble1 (NA)
: Unrightfully Banned
You were not punished for simply telling someone to STFU. You demanded reports against other players in your game, verbally abused and harassed your team members and made comments like "[5:59] onoble1 (Lee Sin) : gg i farm all game bc now im behind a lot". All the negative behavior you displayed in your game is enough justification for your punishment. This is also not the first time you have seen a punishment issued to your account. I see multiple chat restrictions and a two week suspension on your account for the same behavior, before your current punishment was issued.
: Thank you so much this has been incredibly helpful! I didn't even think about like music copyrights so that's something to look into and moobot and Ankhbot will definitely be something I look into in the next couple days! Everything here has been really helpful honestly this is a big help for me and I'll put everything in here given to me to make things better! I will say though I'm quite surprised a rioted of all folks stumbled onto this thread! Thank you so much again! ^.^
> [{quoted}](name=IIII Mac Attack,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=dGRKWlFa,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-04-01T02:07:04.022+0000) > > Thank you so much this has been incredibly helpful! I didn't even think about like music copyrights so that's something to look into and moobot and Ankhbot will definitely be something I look into in the next couple days! Everything here has been really helpful honestly this is a big help for me and I'll put everything in here given to me to make things better! I will say though I'm quite surprised a rioted of all folks stumbled onto this thread! Thank you so much again! ^.^ Streaming is one of my favorite hobbies and it makes me happy to see other people starting to get into it. I know how rough it was for me to get started until I found information online and tips from other streamers to set me on the path. Oh, one more bit of advice. Don't get discouraged if you aren't pulling in a ton of viewers every night. Stream to have fun keep your energy flowing and those few regulars who watch you on a daily basis will begin to tell friends about you. Word of mouth about an awesome streamer will bring more people to your channel and if you keep it up and stay to a set schedule you can do wonderful things.
: Can we all just give a big round of applause for Rhojin?
Thank you very much for your kind words :), they have inspired me to do even more to help players in any way I can.
Calbrena (NA)
: lmao OK w/e you say. I'm sure that's part of the "recovery process"
> [{quoted}](name=Calbrena,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Z2moBrrE,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2016-04-01T00:35:54.664+0000) > > lmao OK w/e you say. I'm sure that's part of the "recovery process" Reaper is correct those questions are standard question that are asked during account recoveries. The amount of money you have spent and the length of time you have had your league account do not grant you immunity from receiving punishments on your account. ~~Though from the sounds of it, the suspension may have been placed on your account for reasons other than behavior(security reasons, chargeback, etc). If that is the case, the support agent handling you ticket will be able to give you a better run down as to why your account received a permanent ban. ~~ Edit: I just saw you were able to post your chatlogs that lead to your suspension. From the negative and abusive comments that I can see in your chatlog I can say that the punishment was justified. Furthermore, if this chatlog is what lead to your permanent suspension, that means there were other punishments issued to your account in the past for negative behavior as well. We do not instantly issue permanent bans to account unless they go far beyond negative behavior (Hate speech, death threats, etc)
: Streaming Design Help and Promotion
Starting off streaming is a challenge in itself and usually fueled by trial and error. I've been streaming off and on for the last 2.5 years and only seriously gotten into it this past year or so. I am not a big time streamer but I can share what I have learned so far :) 1) Music can be tricky as your stream vods may be muted if twitch's detection bot notices that there is copyrighted music being played on stream. Now there are some pretty cool artists and groups who produce music that they allow anyone to use on stream (Monstercat for example). Bot wise for interaction I use twitch alerts for follower, hosting and donation notifications and moobot for an auto moderator to keep spammers and what not in line. I also use a program called ankhbot which allows me to have information messages I set to popup in chat throughout the stream, and it allows other cool things to be added like chat minigames http://marcinswierzowski.com/Code/AnkhBotR2/ 2) Overlays can be tricky and this is where a lot of trial and error comes into play. If you looking for specifically a League Overlay there are a ton of talented artists who create them for streams and there are even those who create them for free (Google searches are a huge help in this area) 3) Twitch has a great knowledge base on how to take clips from your vods that you can then export to channels such as youtube. Its all relatively easy to use (Thankfully, because I suck at video editing lol). I would suggest looking through the twitch help section and hitting up the twitch subreddit if you are stuck. As for promotion, social media is your best friend. Twitter and Facebook can start to bring in viewers which can turn into followers. Post messages when you are going live, send out information about future streams you are going to do, maybe certain events you are planning. All in all my the most important advice I can give is to stream because you enjoy it, have fun on your stream and engage with chat as much as possible. Even if there is nobody in chat keep talking like there is, you never know when someone may pop in and if they see you're silent and just staring at the game they may leave. I do this even when I am not streaming as an exercise to build it as a norm so it just flows when I am streaming. Oh and make a schedule and keep to it(Super important). There is a 4 part video series that Cohhcarnage put on youtube on how to break into streaming and how to build your stream. I highly suggest checking it out as the videos have a ton of great tips for upcoming streamers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MANKCcbqbpM
Platinum (NA)
: Reporting System for Clubs?
O.O well this is not good. I have taken care of the name. In regards to where to report names like this, the best place at this time to report them is by sending a report ticket in to player support.
beonu (NA)
: Scripters don't get punished but I get Punished for calling them out?...
As you have given permission for them to be posted, these are the chatlogs from your punished account that lead to a chat restriction being issued on 3/28/2016 Game 1: [2:21] TeabagMASTER (Zed) : stupid bug splat [8:00] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed) : *** [8:21] TeabagMASTER (Zed): gg on that mia [10:10] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): bullshit [10:43] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): bullshit + bullshit [10:51] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): script more [11:29] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): calling a scripter out isn't salt [11:34] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): it's just what they are doing [12:03] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): he dodged as i was hitting my ult twice now. that is a script [12:22] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): ahhh he has esp [12:57] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): ah so you can see my keyboard with your experience with fizz? [13:00] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): nope [13:06] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): once maybe but everytime nope [13:24] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): however fizz script reads that shit and will do it everytime [13:34] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): there isn't anything to read as im pressing the button [13:47] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): keyboard works on up stroke [14:08] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): scripts are funny like that [14:20] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): it's k ill report the video riot can decide [18:40] TeabagMASTER (Zed): love teams in solo que [19:39] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): team more in soloque pls [20:43] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): you are on a team you have the same club names [20:44] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): lol [20:56] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): 3 of you do [21:19] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): scripts and clubs = gg [22:18] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): at least im noob who's solo in solo que [22:29] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): i don't need 3 people on skype [22:33] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): scripting [23:00] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): the lies [24:19] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): you started with a team of people [25:39] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): team up in solo que more [27:03] TeabagMASTER (Zed): she'll kill me [27:22] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): killed two of you [27:40] TeabagMASTER (Zed): i did [27:52] TeabagMASTER (Zed): i killed fizz and the other softy [28:02] TeabagMASTER (Zed): yes i did [28:04] TeabagMASTER (Zed): i ulted fizz [29:30] TeabagMASTER (Zed): see she one shots me [29:56] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): mechaincs vs scripting [30:11] TeabagMASTER (Zed): wtf are you talking about i went after k. [30:36] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): no just fizz [31:14] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): see again. way before i let go of my key [31:26] [All] TeabagMASTER (Zed): prediction script too strong [34:20] TeabagMASTER (Zed): i was on fizz [34:21] TeabagMASTER (Zed): stfu [34:33] TeabagMASTER (Zed): i ulted fizz [34:34] TeabagMASTER (Zed): lol [37:58] TeabagMASTER (Zed): finish [38:25] TeabagMASTER (Zed): fizz up [38:27] TeabagMASTER (Zed): get top or bot [40:09] TeabagMASTER (Zed): ill die Game 2: [1:53] [All] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): stop [3:03] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): why attack the support? [5:36] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): that's how i feel too [6:18] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): you only have the longest range in the game [6:40] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): lol [7:23] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): nope [7:25] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): look it up [7:53] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): she did until jhin was made [8:31] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): it's your abilities not autos... [8:35] [All] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): this guy understand nothing [8:54] [All] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): it even says in the fucking champ spotlight jihn has longest range of all adc [9:00] [All] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): watch it again [11:51] [All] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): lol this guy [11:59] [All] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): anytime he dies it will be my fault [12:29] [All] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): you don't have the range to kill her man [14:29] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): if you had the range you could have gotten her [17:19] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): it happens [20:34] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): why didn't you all go bot with me [20:38] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): that would have been 2 towers [27:59] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): Kha'Zix [28:06] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): because no one cares [28:23] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): we lost this game ages ago [30:37] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): that ks [30:42] [All] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): that ks [32:10] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): the whole team is top lane why isn't a bot tower down? [37:49] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): you know they hqve items to deaql with his items [38:55] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): you need to learn items better [39:05] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): hahaha [39:08] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): nah [39:12] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): im not the baddie here [39:24] TeabagMASTER (Nautilus): you have no items to deal with them at all In regards to the screenshot you posted, it appears in that chatlog shows other players responding to you, that seems to be odd as chatlogs that we send to players regarding their punishments only show that they have said in their games. Looking into the past chat restrictions on both accounts, you seem to quickly resort to accusing anyone on the other team who outplays you of cheating and you quickly launch into verbally abusing team members if they play poorly.
beonu (NA)
: lol, it wasn't this account. ahah you didn't find anything because the other account isn't even linked to this ip address. I said one thing. you are simply covering up for riots lack of care dealing with scripters. Maybe, if you guys hired people who knew what a computer is, this wouldn't be an issue. nice try though
> [{quoted}](name=beonu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZfbM1TJ3,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-31T00:29:41.471+0000) > > lol, it wasn't this account. ahah you didn't find anything because the other account isn't even linked to this ip address. I said one thing. you are simply covering up for riots lack of care dealing with scripters. Maybe, if you guys hired people who knew what a computer is, this wouldn't be an issue. nice try though You can believe what you want, though what you are saying is not true. In the future if you feel anyone is scripting just send in a report, all attacking people in your games is going to ultimately lead to is the permanent suspension of your account.
beonu (NA)
: Correct, i am not going to complain about this on my other account because I have already been punished for trying to say something.
> [{quoted}](name=beonu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZfbM1TJ3,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2016-03-31T00:14:49.543+0000) > > Correct, i am not going to complain about this on my other account because I have already been punished for trying to say something. I was able to find it, no biggie. Though you were not punished simply for trying to say something. You were punished for verbally abusing, and harassing players in two of your games. As you claim in your post, one of them you consistently attack another player because you felt they were scripting, this is considered verbal abuse and can justify a punishment being issued to your account. On top of that, in your second game you are overly negative and again abusive towards other player's in your game. If you feel a player is scripting or breaking other rules the best way to go about things is to send in a report without resorting to verbal abuse or harassment. We do punish players who use scripts, other third party tools or exploits that give them a competitive advantage over others. The use of these tools is nothing something we tolerate.
beonu (NA)
: Scripters don't get punished but I get Punished for calling them out?...
I tried looking into your account to see if I could find anything regarding your chat restrictions but there doesn't seem to be anything on your account. Are you by chance referencing a second account?
TheBorg0 (NA)
: Why so social justice?
I'm not seeing any punishment for the light banter you referenced. The only thing I see on your account at this point in time is a LeaverBuster punishment. Did you receive a popup letting you know that you have been receiving multiple reports in recent games?
: BANNED Permeated
Your punishment is more than justified. Every one of those chatlogs shows you verbally abusing and harassing other players in your games. It doesn't matter who may have started it, the moment that you begin to fire back with your own negative behavior, you open yourself to receiving reports from others and validate any punishment that may be issued to your account.
: I understand that. But the simple word %%%got is not hate speech. It is an English word. I used the word in a way to express anger, hot hatred. The only infractions i have ever had on this account are all related to me being angry. I did report that guy. But nothing will happen. The tribunal only attack those who are viewed as being hateful, which i was not being. I was being stupid and stubborn, but not hateful. In fact the only thing people say about that entire game long conversation is the only hateful speech i used was one word. I do not agree that i should be permanently banned. I would happily take a permanent chat restriction. Or have it to where other people cannot see what i type? That would also help on the toxicity that i was facing in those two games.
Even using the word in anger, you were using it to verbally attack another player in your game. I wasn't only focusing on just the use of one word, what was more concerning to me was the way you were going after players because they were doing well. You harassed them, insinuated they were cheating because of how well they were playing and even threatened them with reports. Given the whole of the behavior in your game justifies the punishment on your account. Now in regards to nothing happening to the player you reported, you do not know that. If they were doing nothing wrong, then of course nothing will happen to them. But if they were breaking the rules in one way or another, they will see their own sort of punishment issued to their account.
: Permanent ban
You were verbally abusing, harassing and using hate speech towards players in your game because they were doing well. Doing well in a game is not trolling, cheating or against the rules. If you feel that someone may be breaking the rules you have the option to submit a report, attacking them only risks your account receiving a punishment. Looking into your account you have previously received multiple chat restrictions and a two week suspension for your continued negative behavior in games.
: I need Help.. Please..
As some posts have suggested muting at the start of the game or duoing are both good ways to help you out when you start to get frustrated. There are moments when everyone gets frustrated and sometimes the need to vent in chat becomes overwhelming, though as you have experienced when you do this, you're bound to have a bad time. The next time you find yourself becoming frustrated during a game, try taking a few deep breaths, or try venting your frustration verbally. That way nobody in game will see your frustration, allowing you to vent and not received reports for creating a negative experience in games. There are also things you can do after a frustrating game to reduce the chance you go into your next game angry. Try getting up and going for a walk, or do something that relaxes you. Maybe exercise or do something else to help burn the frustration from your body, I use to hit a punching bag for an hour or two when I was feeling stressed from work or life in general a few years ago. It was great exercise and it helped put me in a calmer mood.
: The system will check your chat logs. If you did no such thing, their reports will be tossed out and they will lose weight in their future reports. Just don't respond to them and give their reports validity.
> [{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=5lksamxJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-25T08:36:52.855+0000) > > The system will check your chat logs. If you did no such thing, their reports will be tossed out and they will lose weight in their future reports. Just don't respond to them and give their reports validity. ^ this, if you didn't do anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about :). We don't issue punishments to players just because someone reported them. Those reports still need to be valid before a punishment is handed out.
: Keep Getting Banned!!! Why??!!
You were verbally abusing players in your games, not because they were trolling but because they were under preforming. You threatened reports and insulted players because they were making mistakes, not ganking for you or losing their lane. This sort of behavior is not acceptable.
: Shitty banning system needs to go
There were two other games included in your chat logs. In all three you continuously verbally abuse and harass other players and in one game you use hate speech (homophobic slurs). The suspension issued to your account is more than deserved.
: Illogical Perm Ban?
There were two other game logs that were provided to you, in all three you were verbally abusing and harassing other players in your games. Before the permanent suspension was issued to your account you had a two week suspension issued to you for the same behavior, and before that you were issued multiple chat restrictions. Your punishment is indeed justified.
: Permanent Ban worthy?
There was another chat log provided to you where you we verbally abusing and harassing players, and using homophobic slurs. This was your second suspension for displaying excessive amounts of negative behavior in games. On top of that multiple chat restrictions were placed on your account before either of these suspensions were issued.
: yes on an excessive level. calling my jg useless and calling someone a dick after they told someone to kill themselves. only two lines that could be considered toxic out of everything I said, and another arbiter could not deny that. not enough to merit a perma ban
While you may believe you were permanently banned for nothing aside from a premade reporting you and for only one word, your chatlog shows differently. This is not a first time offense, your excessive negative attitude, verbal abuse and harassment you were punished for is the exact same behavior that resulted in your previous two week suspension.
: and what you people don't get is that it would have registered 4 reports against me, regardless and it would have flagged and banned me, regardless.
This is incorrect. We do not punish players simply because they received a report or reports against their account. The only time you would be punished from a report is if you were displaying negative behavior in your games. Which you had done on an excessive level in your game.
: its an unfair ban these people took advantage of a broken system to get me banned because its what people do for fun in this game. ive seen it before. if I ever play again, im sure I will see it again.
There was no taking advantage of a system to get you suspended. Looking through the chat log I can confirm the suspension was warranted. If you had not displayed negative behavior in your game and they reported you, a punishment would not have been issued.
MinkyMan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rhojin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MQspcAU2,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-10-28T21:59:20.181+0000) > > I think it would be best if we continue this conversation in a ticket, that way your account information or activity is not revealed to the public eye. The last thing we want is someone using information posted on this thread to start a witch hunt against you. If you would like, I will create a ticket for you and we can continue our discussion there, you will not have to wait for a response as it will go directly to me. When you say create a ticket, you mean through email correct?
Correct. The ticket should be waiting for you in the email that you have registered to your account.
: riot employee please respond
A 4 man pre-made simply reporting you will not wind up in a punishment unless you were displaying negative behavior in your game. Looking through your chat log, it wasn't just a matter of calling one player something, it was the consistent negative attitude you had through the entire game, the verbal abuse and harassment of other players that you displayed that lead to your suspension. While you may have also experienced some negative feedback from your team members, it only matters what you do when it comes to your punishments. If you run into negative behavior from other players it is best to mute them or ignore them and report their actions at the end of the game. That way they are the only ones who will have to face consequences for their behavior. The moment you start fire back at them or begin to target another player you begin to validate reports made against your account.
MinkyMan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rhojin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MQspcAU2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-10-28T21:26:57.358+0000) > > Hey Minkyman, > > I took a look into your tickets and into your account and it does appear that the card you were provided upon your suspension did have a display error on it. There was no visual error on your account caused by another player logging into your account, this was a small error with the instant feed back system at the time. I am sorry for any confusion the error has caused on your end but the permanent suspension currently on your account was the intended punishment when it was issued. But it wasn't the intended punishment. "Templar Iytsuna" told me that it was a visual error on my account. If you take a look at my match history, it clearly shows that someone else was on my account at the time. So it obviously was not a permanent ban, if someone else got on my account. And like I said, that is not very fair to me, considering I had no clue what was going on with my account at them time. I have just started posting and using the forums and I just found out that I can check my match history. It shows that matches were played after September 13th.
I think it would be best if we continue this conversation in a ticket, that way your account information or activity is not revealed to the public eye. The last thing we want is someone using information posted on this thread to start a witch hunt against you. If you would like, I will create a ticket for you and we can continue our discussion there, you will not have to wait for a response as it will go directly to me.
MinkyMan (NA)
: Account was banned very important someone please help
Hey Minkyman, I took a look into your tickets and into your account and it does appear that the card you were provided upon your suspension did have a display error on it. There was no visual error on your account caused by another player logging into your account, this was a small error with the instant feed back system at the time. I am sorry for any confusion the error has caused on your end but the permanent suspension currently on your account was the intended punishment when it was issued.
: > [{quoted}](name=PDE5 Inhibitors,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=wagjV5WT,comment-id=002400000001000000000000,timestamp=2015-10-22T23:26:58.898+0000) > > I don't think they could punish players for it. As long as they allow smurfing to be legal, they can't make rules that say you can't duo when on your smurf. NaKyle also went on to say he can't say for sure and it's grey. "That's definitely boosting and bannable. A challenger player's gonna ruin the integrity of a bronze game nearly every time." "Official statement's a bit out of my depth, so just use good judgment. I think anything beyond one tier apart is a bit shady." "Yeah, and I think we understand its a problem worth solving on our end. Sounds like you're empathizing and being thoughtful. :)" Were all of NaKyle's tweets, feel free to show me when he said that he isn't sure and that it's grey. I'm the one who said it's a dark grey area. To put it into different words - I'm @Pandashka91, those are my tweets
As long as both players are on their own accounts it is not considered to be boosting. Though chances are a challenger player is not going to have a legitimate smurf account that can duo with a bronze player but by some chance they have a legitimate smurf able to duo with a bronze friend it is not punishable in regard to boosting. Now if the challenger player intentionally lost games to have a lower ranked account in order to stomp lower ranked players or to duo with friends, then the account would be open to another form of punishment.
nobleseed (EUNE)
: Hello, I dropped to plat 1 a month ago due to inactivity and now i got back to d5. So is there anything i should be worried about? {{summoner:2}}
Simply decaying in rankings is not something that will flag out account for MMR Boosting. You would need a third party to have played ranked games on your account for a punishment to happen.
: If you were to report someone, would it notify that person that they were reported if they got punished? Or would it remain anonymous..?
All reports made are kept anonymous and players punished are not informed that someone sent in a report ticket about them.
Soleom (NA)
: Hi, I'm going to be moving from California to Germany in these coming months. I intend on still playing league. Will the system think someone is boosting my account?
Moving to an new home or even a new country will not get you flagged for participating in MMR Boosting :).
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