PapaGreg21
(NA)
Hello, thanks for posting this. I reached out to a few people in that thread so hopefully we can get some relevant info and track down the root cause.
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Hethalean
(NA)
Question for you: There are 2 separate check boxes related to attack moving. Both of them are under the Game tab. If you scroll down all the way to Gameplay, one of the boxes is auto attack, which should make it so if you are just standing still, you will start attacking. The other one is attack move on cursor. Do you have the 'attack move on cursor' box checked or unchecked?
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Ordreth
(NA)
I know you posted this a few days ago, but was wondering if this has been happening to you consistently. If so I have some follow up questions I would like to ask to hopefully figure out what is going wrong
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pcjs123
(NA)
I know this happened a while ago, but I was curious if this has been happening consistently for you. If so I have some follow up questions to hopefully find out what is going wrong
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Carnicore
(NA)
I don't think it was a particularly spectacular performance, but he certainly played it well. He even said himself that he hasn't played her enough to really know how strong she is. The one thing I do know for sure is that she is suuuuper entertaining to watch. Can't wait to see her more once pros get better at playing her (and get better at playing against her).
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Sinns
(NA)
I would be interested in something like that. We don't generally have much visibility into that portion of the game, but it would be cool to see something beyond mastery 7 for those champions that you really just love to play.
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Lëo
(EUW)
Don't really know of anything planned for either of those champions, but I HAVE been playing quite a bit of Udyr lately. I have fallen in love with going phase rush on him with blue smite. Blue smite counts as 1 of the 3 damage sources to proc phase rush, you hit them with a bear stun, and then your next auto triggers phase rush. Been fun to play with that in combination with boots/approach velocity in inspiration.
racecar udyr!
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Soníc
(EUW)
Buffs and nerfs at this time of year tend to be done sliiiightly differently. Part of the consideration is how much testing we will realistically get on some of the changes. With runes just shipping and winter break coming up, the scope of changes tend to be smaller and more controlled. That's why there are changes that slightly adjust some numbers (something which we have a pretty good understanding of what impact it will have) vs reworking parts of a kit to solve some longer term problems (typically requires significantly more testing and is higher risk due to uncertainty).
As far as Leona goes, I wouldn't be surprised if we need to nerf her a bit more (or aftershock possibly), but it is still a bit too early to see where she will land this patch. Generally we don't want to go overboard with nerfs to gut champions, so we tend to do the softer safer nerfs during this time of year. Otherwise the Leona changes might have been a bit more interesting.
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warpenguin555
(NA)
Nothing that I know of in the near future. That type of thing would likely be a longer term project and we would need to pick up something like that after winter break.
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RedSonya1
(NA)
whoever hasn't recently had their headset on
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Riot Koyuncu
(NA)
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Critkeeper
(NA)
The data I have seen (and my anecdotal experience with him in my games) suggests otherwise. I recommend trying press the attack with him and seeing how that feels.
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CrazFight
(NA)
That hasn't matched my personal experience with the Vaynes I see in my games. and her data suggests she isn't out of line. I don't anticipate any direct changes to her in the near future.
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Deyanz Elrc
(NA)
Not sure. We don't really have any insight into that aspect of things
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hashinshin jr
(NA)
No word that I know of. We don't really have any insight into that part of stuff.
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I Like Teemo
(NA)
There are a lot of relevant points you make, and surely some follow up work to be done on our part, but one suggestion I have is that if you are finding yourself to be too squishy, try splashing resolve and taking iron skin/mirror shell. It actually makes a pretty huge impact when it comes to surviving tough lane matchups.
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OldDirtay
(NA)
Is there anything in particular you wanted to talk about, or are you just venting? Either way is fine with me, but if you want to try and have a discussion, I don't really know where to start based on your statement
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TK Snipey
(NA)
T I L T I N G
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OldDirtay
(NA)
sorry to hear that. Care to go into a bit more detail into what it is that makes you think this? Hard to make meaningful improvements with this broad of a statement
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Flea557
(NA)
probably not just you, but that doesn't match my experience with runes so far
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Septiv
(NA)
This generally isn't something we have toooo much context into, so it's hard to give an accurate answer. I am pretty sure that there are some talks about it though, but these types of issues are often extremely complex and isn't necessarily related to the new runes alone.
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Carnicore
(NA)
A loooong time ago ( ~10+ months?) the set bonus were calculated based off of the secondary. This is probably just a remnant of that and something that we will hopefully be able to touch up/improve in the future. There are some bigger issues that are currently being addressed (such as your page not being close while editing during champ select after the last champ is locked in), so it might take a little longer than ideal
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Penns
(EUW)
Part of the reason Zoe needs to get the last hit is to discourage her from support (although it is still doable).
I personally think mages should be able to beat bruisers 1v1 when the bruiser just walks back and forth and completely disrespects the potential damage of the opponent. Just my 2c tho
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Riot Aesah
(NA)
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Splashing Resolve for Iron Skin vs. an aggressive AD mid is totally cool- the Perfect Timing in Inspiration is a very viable choice IMO and makes Zed players salty.
Lissandra can go Arcane Comet or Electrocute depending whether you want more poke damage in lane (e.g., top vs melee) or more all-in damage (midlane). Predator could give her spicy roams too although I haven’t tried it
^ this
Resolve splash to survive tough lanes is surprisingly impactful. Have had a lot of success doing that in testing.
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Karn Bishop
(NA)
Don't know what to say... my experience differs pretty severely from what you are describing (on my Riot account and on my smurf)
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Solidair3
(NA)
Hard to judge how powerful it truly is just based off of this anecdote, but if you are struggling to survive early game, you can always splash resolve and take either iron skin/ mirror shell for the extra early tankyness.
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Over Justice
(EUW)
Good question, not sure tbh. That's generally not something we have much insight into.
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Fate Fire
(NA)
No plans to rework the tutorial that I know of (although we have no insight into who, if anyone, is working on that). We focus more on high level gameplay implications of changes, which is about as far away from the tutorial that you can get.
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karynyappy
(NA)
Dunno, that's not something we work with/have any context on
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Penns
(EUW)
The goal of update's isn't solely to create something that mains of the champions prefer. A lot of the time it is to address some game health concerns. Sometimes that comes at the expense of mains of the champ, sometimes we are able to get the best of both worlds. For a champion like fizz, it is pretty clear that he has a tendency to severely frustrate his opponents. With something like that, changes will often come at the expense of some players who have become attached to pretty unhealthy play patterns.
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4Eeyore
(NA)
Dunno, hopefully that's something we are able to implement in the future.
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tommyagun
(NA)
I don't anticipate any veigar changes in the near future
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Spideraxe
(NA)
My best guess is we will open hiring again within the next couple of months (but don't quote me on that!)
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Riot ThEntropist
(NA)
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But for real the salt jar is destroyed and gone forever
It's both sad and true {{sticker:cass-cry}}
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Marchinghigno
(EUW)
I do believe it is multiplicative, but I actually didn't think it was supposed to work with Jayce R... Not sure I guess
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Kloqdq
(NA)
Hard to say this early (although I personally enjoy the changes) since SO much is different with Runes. I would however expect some sort of follow up, as that will almost certainly be necessary eventually.
For summoner setups I personally like champions that can utilize dark harvest (blue kayne for example). Others on the team have found success with things like unsealed spellbook simply for the reduced CD of smite/flash (Trade flash with an enemy on first gank -> come back once your flash comes back up b/c theirs will still be down for a bit).
If you find yourself struggling to survive in the jungle, try splashing resolve and taking iron skin.
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Metleon
(NA)
Unfortunately we don't have toooo much context into that side of things as it isn't something we actively test. To the best of my knowledge though it should remain relatively similar overall (don't quote me on that though)
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ReySolomon
(NA)
Glad to hear it! Now is as good a time as ever to play yorick too (make sure to take demolisher in the resolve tree. With that and your Q which can now hit turrets, you can wreck them suuuper quickly)
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AkiraMarvell
(NA)
TBH I've gotten in the habbit of setting it up every game (since you can in the lobby). Obviously we have had a LOT of exposure to the system already so it is easier, but once you get more comfortable with it, changing it each game makes it easier to make minor changes based on champions/lane matchups/etc.
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Garrotte
(NA)
Tired of memes??? surely you don't know what team you are dealing with
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The Pale Woman
(NA)
hit some pretty big bumps as far as I know. It will likely either be very delayed or need to be larger scope (in which case it would be more delayed). This is of course subject to change, but I don't see us getting anything shippable in the near future
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Siachi
(NA)
As far as I know there aren't any plans to look at Yasuo. Sure he could use some tweaks just like every champion, but there are probably far more urgent issues to address. I will say that it is important to think of the gains you get with a change for the added complexity. Your suggested changes aren't particularly complex (although it definitely is adding SOME complexity), but the gameplay gains aren't tooooo large for that degree of complexity (just my opinion). There is also something to say for elegance in changes. Certain changes feel forced (for example making abilities interact specifically with jungle camps) vs other changes that feel natural and also have the desired outcome. Again, your ideas aren't victim of this, but it is something to consider!
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Chiken138
(EUW)
No plans for voli as far as I know, but I am of the opinion that he would need some larger scope work to bring him up to date with what I expect out of more modern champions.
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ShadowbladeTalon
(NA)
not sure when that is going to ship
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patmax17
(EUW)
I believe she did get some extra AS scaling, but more importantly IMO is that double zeal builds were recognized as powerful. With Shiv and RFC she has plenty of attack speed to output the consistent damage in combination with her range. Headshot is also a bit of it's own steroid in the sense that her base kit actually does have some increased damage output attached to it.
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TomiMan7
(EUNE)
That would certainly be a stronger buff, but then it would lead to weird patterns like only wanting to W if there is a single low health minion that you can kill. The purpose here is more to enable some meaningful waveclear (which would generally require W+E) instead of adding in a last hitting + harassing type optimization.
There are other implications as well, but this change also is a bit clearer in how it interacts with his kit. Personally I don't believe this buff will do tooooo much for brand, as he already struggles in mid lane in general. At least at higher levels of play he just doesn't have the tools necessary to deal with modern jungler ganks, and is probably too easy to punish in general.
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SMCpulse
(EUW)
Want to clarify that our team doesn't make changes, we just work with designers to discuss/play changes.
With that said, I personally would be a bit hesitant to increase Diana's damage. She is a champion that tends to be balanced on a razor's edge. By that I mean if she gets ahead, she can snowball suuuuuper hard, with very impactful and reliable burst patterns. If she isn't strong enough to meaningfully kill priority targets, she has extremely limited value she brings to a team. Unless her win rate and other metrics indicate she is severely under-performing I assume we would hold off on touching her numbers until we decide to maybe do a larger scope update to her kit.
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Srack1
(EUW)
Want to clarify that our team doesn't actually make changes, we just work with designers and discuss/play changes.
With that said, Volibear definitely needs something. Not sure what, but I suspect it would need to be a larger scope project, since he is relatively outdated in terms of what his kit has to offer.
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Carnicore
(NA)
unlucky
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AFilthyCaitMain
(NA)
I feel like they didn't go well enough. I expect her to still be powerful in pro play. In terms of her solo queue win rate they went pretty well, but my best guess is that this version of Caitlyn will be a dominant pro pick. It is difficult to say how the meta will shift with Runes Reforged, but as long as Caitlyn can bully lane as well as scale into the late game, I expect her to be a priority pick.
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