: Hey, when does it release for EUW? Wednesday PM in what time zone? NA?
Normally we’d be able to say, but in this case we’re being vague on purpose. Two reasons: 1) we need the flexibility and don’t know the exact time 2) we don’t want players to tor%%%% the queue all at the same time basically we don’t want all our shit to blow up lol
: GOOD LUCK
> [{quoted}](name=JesterNil,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FewK8x9e,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-14T23:30:55.761+0000) > > GOOD LUCK *salutes, waves cowboy hat while riding horse into the sunset*
  Rioter Comments
: hey Cactopus I think you should explain that skin shards having "equal odds" of dropping still means more often than not you will get a cheaper skin shard, since most skins are cheap. So for example the odds of getting dj sona, guardian udyr or pulsefire ez is 3/(X total amount of available skinshards)
Yeah you're right! We just wanna make sure people know that there's not any weighting effect on skin shard tiers
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/UAqfPgGQ-karma-by-laner-del-rey <3
: Will the drop rate for ultimate/mythic shards be reduced?
Nope. Same as before. Full info on Hextech chest drop rates here: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207884233-Hextech-Crafting-Guide
Capek95 (EUW)
: wow those " You said" make this sound like a speech, and damn i was touched by the end of it. 10/10 rito
AND SO, MY FELLOW RUNETERRANS: ASK NOT HOW MUCH OE YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE FOR ULTIMATE SKIN SHARDS—ASK HOW MUCH OE THOSE SKIN SHARDS WILL GIVE YOU
ZER0 2 (NA)
: Great work guys <3 Feels amazing as a player to be listened to and I think these changes are great for both parties involved. Thank you!
: Oh. That feels pretty bad. SS Vayne ate a massive chunk of my OE and it only feels like a 1350 skin :/
I feel ya but to be super real with you we've just gotta be able to make positive improvements to pricing/reward systems without also being forced to do a bunch of work retroactively applying systems/prices. We're trying to set really clear precedents with stuff like this: when we announce price drops on other stuff in the store, we announce it at least a couple weeks in advance so people are given a decent heads up—but we don't do refunds or, like, retroactive reparations in those cases either. Hope that makes sense (I know it feels like less of a homerun than the other parts of the announcement though)
Swarovsko (EUW)
: I know it sounds like a joke but I almost cried 1. because I'm listening to Old Money by Lana del Rey and 2. because with this "you said"-"so" trick it feels like you are my mother and you care about me. I love you. https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/limitedgenerousbanteng
damn lana del rey is so good firing up spotify now
: If you're sitting on an ultimate/mythic shard right now, will it be automatically upgraded once the change goes through? I know a few people sitting on ultimates including myself.
(copying from above) Nah, the change is just for stuff that drops starting with 8.5—that's why we're announcing the change early. Generally like a two weeks heads up is how we try to do it when we announce price drops or any kind of "generosity" buff like this
: Wait, so if I have Hextech Annie atm but not enough essence, I can get it for free when it comes live?
All these changes are just going forward, not retroactive. That's why we're announcing the change early. Generally like a two weeks heads up is how we try to do it when we announce price drops or any kind of "generosity" buff like this
  Rioter Comments
: That a lot of words and a lot of stuff I don’t understand.
: hey sorry if it came across like that. Me and cactopus were hyping it up. the bm was a part of that. no hard feelings between anyone. (Except me and that tech desk intern.... He's on my list now) Its all in good fun.
honestly you should've bm'ed harder after the spanking you gave me {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Cactopus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dn4eXAw7,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2018-02-09T19:29:32.927+0000) > > it&#x27;s clearly the most superior game mode > > but for this one match i will return to peasantville aka SR Here's a hint. Mid lane is probably the lane in the MIDDLE of the map. Just a guess, but I think I'm right.
> [{quoted}](name=oOBestEveNAOo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dn4eXAw7,comment-id=000c00000000,timestamp=2018-02-09T19:44:22.338+0000) > > Here&#x27;s a hint. Mid lane is probably the lane in the MIDDLE of the map. Just a guess, but I think I&#x27;m right. now way dude the middle is where the relics are xD ??
: Cactopus plays so much Twisted Treeline these days that I'm not sure he'll be able to find the mid lane.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Calad,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dn4eXAw7,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-02-09T19:23:33.270+0000) > > Cactopus plays so much Twisted Treeline these days that I&#x27;m not sure he&#x27;ll be able to find the mid lane. it's clearly the most superior game mode but for this one match i will return to peasantville aka SR
: SIlver 4 garen main talking shit as usual. Whats up with those ranked support games recently my dude? Trying to derank so you can avoid me in a real game? looks painful :P hopefully you don't get {{champion:40}} {{champion:267}} for our 1v1, or it will be over quick. Edit: Help me get to Meddler next! https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/memes/62aOJlZR-and-though-we-soak-in-the-victories-of-today-the-shadows-still-whisper-your-name-meddler
> [{quoted}](name=Better Jungler,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dn4eXAw7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-09T18:15:09.776+0000) > > SIlver 4 garen main talking shit as usual. > > Whats up with those ranked support games recently my dude? Trying to derank so you can avoid me in a real game? > > looks painful :P > > hopefully you don&#x27;t get {{champion:40}} {{champion:267}} for our 1v1, or it will be over quick. don't worry my dude i told player support to make sure you can't get banned they were worried that our automated int detection system might accidentally get you based on your performance in this 1v1 EDIT: Better Jungler you're the reason [I have this on my desk](https://i.imgur.com/p3tU67j.png)
  Rioter Comments
: Riot Cactopus' Peril
get ready for your spanking u absolute animal
: Gunna be real embarassing when you get bodied by a jungle main. Honestly I'm not worried about farming minions, I'll be farming an easier target... Riot employees.
i just talked to the player behavior team and they’re going to bring back the “report unskilled” button in post-game just so i can use it on you after i win
: Who is Riot Tummies?.. That an intern or something? no worries, Riot tummies can get it too. Bring everyone 2 v 1, 3 v 1. I'll bury your whole silver balance team. We will randomize the champ, both play whoever pops up. (UNLESS ITS IVERN) mid lane SR with recalls allowed. first blood, first 100 cs wanna do best of 3? Lets shoot for friday, around this time? *(noon for me)
I accept these terms. 12pm PST this Friday, 2/9 We’ll stream this clash of titans live from Riot HQ on https://www.twitch.tv/rumtumtumblies your CS score is gonna be even lower than your winrate on Vi when I body you
: Cactopus, a public declaration of vendetta against you.
BRING IT YOU NOOB. Riot Tummies says he'll stream our 1v1. You pick the time and date.
: What the heckstech chests
dammit this is actually dank
LoliKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Cactopus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=f4Pv2bm9,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2017-12-23T07:06:40.743+0000) > > Hey folks, I just asked some of our loot guys about this, and while OP’s numbers are a little off (1350s, ultimates, etc. do drop sometimes) it actually does look like there is some unfair weighting on skin rerolls specifically. For now, the devs are going to push out an update to remove ALL weighting for the reroll results. That means all unowned skins (except mythics) will have equal odds of dropping from rerolls—just like how all skin shards (except mythics) currently have equal odds of dropping now from hextech chests. > > **This change should roll out within the next hour, and we’ll update you once it’s live. **Also, in the longer term we’re looking into other possible solutions. > > FWIW, the current weighting system made more sense back in the old system (when people only ever rerolled low-value skins) but we’re realizing now we should’ve just updated it to be unweighted when we made all the other loot changes. So, it’s our bad. Will fix ASAP and update once it’s done. Does this mean that there will be no chance in the future of rerolling and acquiring a Mythical skin? I personally know people who've rerolled skins and gotten Soulstealer Vayne /Hextech Annie, said people not owning every single skin in the game btw.
> [{quoted}](name=LoliKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=f4Pv2bm9,comment-id=00140006,timestamp=2017-12-23T08:15:59.896+0000) > > Does this mean that there will be no chance in the future of rerolling and acquiring a Mythical skin? I personally know people who&#x27;ve rerolled skins and gotten Soulstealer Vayne /Hextech Annie, said people not owning every single skin in the game btw. Mythic skins can still drop, they're just super rare compared to all the other skins
: Skin Rerolls are HIGHLY weighted (No 1350 skins, data inside)
UPDATE 1:00AM PACIFIC TIME - The change is now live! We've answered a bunch of questions in the comments here [and on Reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7lmjs4/skin_rerolls_are_highly_weighted_no_1350_skins/), so check that out if you're curious! _____ Hey folks, I just asked some of our loot guys about this, and while OP’s numbers are a little off (1350s, ultimates, etc. do drop sometimes) it actually does look like there is some unfair weighting on skin rerolls specifically. For now, the devs are going to push out an update to remove ALL weighting for the reroll results. That means all unowned skins (except mythics) will have equal odds of dropping from rerolls—just like how all skin shards (except mythics) currently have equal odds of dropping now from hextech chests. **This change should roll out within the next hour, and we’ll update you once it’s live. **Also, in the longer term we’re looking into other possible solutions. FWIW, the current weighting system made more sense back in the old system (when people only ever rerolled low-value skins) but we’re realizing now we should’ve just updated it to be unweighted when we made all the other loot changes. So, it’s our bad. Will fix ASAP and update once it’s done.
: When Riot Cactopus replies to you
: Kinda random, but I love your name. Reminds me of stuff like Bravest Warriors or Puppycat and Bee
IDK what a puppycat is but it sounds adorable AF
CleanerX (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Cactopus,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=zjJJdR4c,comment-id=00050002000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-06T05:27:35.349+0000) > > I get what you mean, but I really feel like I got burnt for no reason in that thread about orange essence. OP was making it impossible to have a fair discussion with the inaccurate/incomplete quote and the weird comments about skin shards from leveling/chests. Like, if we have to come in and spend five minutes setting the record straight before we even have a conversation, it&#x27;s tempting to just ignore the thread altogether. In this case I decided to just take the bullet and address the issues while also linking to a full response about orange essence. But still got dunked on with downvotes. That&#x27;s life I guess. > > Now here I am being a salty boi when I should be posting memes in this thread > > https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2F3bxba8ns.gif&amp;key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&amp;width=150 But there is no denying that riot did a terrible job of informing players of the OE nerfs before they were going to happen. The info was incredibly ambiguous.
We really did do our best. Aside from all the engagement we did on the boards/other communities about it we published it in three separate places in the lead-up to preseason: in the original announcement article, in the preseason FAQ, and as a message in the client for two whole weeks. That being said, I don't wanna just dismiss your feedback. Maybe we do have a bigger problem where we really just can't reach all the right people even if we put stuff in the client. In that case in the future we might wanna think about doing things like sending out automated emails to people who'll be affected. It's worth thinking about on our end, because we do wanna give fair warning to people when we make big changes.
Jοkεr (EUW)
: Hey dude, I've been reading your comments in the board for the last 30 minutes and your passion and love for your job and League brought tears to my eyes. I swear to god I've been hating this game for so long now after the assassins rework but damn if I know I love something that's people like you and you deserve all the good stuff in this world!(no homo) I still hate this game but now I am your fanboy. You are fucking awesome and keep up the good work! I fucking love you so much(still no homo)! Also sorry for posting here(whatever you are doing, I dont know..) I just wanted you to get the positive vibes asap ç_ç
Lol shit dude don't play the game if you hate it! Or even if you do hate it just play with me and we'll turn it around. I like to do super tilting builds on ARAM like full crit Nunu. You're guaranteed to have a good time when somebody is playing full crit Nunu.
: I didn't say I hate Cactopus, I'm glad he responds. But he misunderstood OP on what he meant completely.
I get what you mean, but I really feel like I got burnt for no reason in that thread about orange essence. OP was making it impossible to have a fair discussion with the inaccurate/incomplete quote and the weird comments about skin shards from leveling/chests. Like, if we have to come in and spend five minutes setting the record straight before we even have a conversation, it's tempting to just ignore the thread altogether. In this case I decided to just take the bullet and address the issues while also linking to a full response about orange essence. But still got dunked on with downvotes. That's life I guess. Now here I am being a salty boi when I should be posting memes in this thread https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2F3bxba8ns.gif&key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&width=150
Abibyama (EUW)
: Rito entering the boards
mfw i post in a spicy boards thread https://78.media.tumblr.com/c9274b3f1dcc851c808f3107865201b6/tumblr_inline_nz2jviW7Vg1tea6pw_500.gif
Jmman (NA)
: Maybe this comment right here is the reason. I posted a honest reasoning but it not replied to. Player x has an idea about gauging data from players and riot hyperboles is into being funny. Sure has some salt at the end. Most likely because he knows he won't be taken seriously by Riot. Player X will now be salty at Riot. Riot doesn't know why everyone is salty. You realize you just proved him correct because you statement was condescending and hyper poled? Its cool because its worth the up votes right?????
Guys it’s okay to joke around and have fun. This is a forum about a video game.
Infernape (EUW)
: >post some dank memes https://media.giphy.com/media/v6W3LmqM7ktGg/giphy.gif
>me_irl https://gifs.joelglovier.com/crying/raining.gif
Recuro (NA)
: I hate to be that guy but... "We lowered the disenchant rate on shards, and we're giving out more shards." The quote you're questioning is literally in the comment you linked. Granted the rest of the post gives some important context for that quote but let's at least be consistent here.
OP isn't talking about that, though. Look at his post. He thinks he's supposed to be getting skin shards from leveling up. You guys really can't just take one line out of context and take something totally different from it like that.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Cactopus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fRZopjhE,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-11-12T18:53:04.273+0000) > > Going into 2018 you're also gonna get skin content through things like events and honor (lets call them "orange shards" since we're really talking about anything that can be disenchanted into orange essence). We lowered the disenchant rate on shards, and we're giving out more shards. I believe the OP refers to this from the quite you linked. Actually I also left with the impression we'd get more shards. I wouldn't argue if it is a god change or not, though maybe it would be a good idea to give us some sort of schedule on these events, when they will happen and the approximate value we would get from them. Edit: Brought the whole paragraph.
Yeah it's true that you get skin shards from events like Overcharge now. But that's a lot different than what OP is saying. Here's what OP said: > So far i havent seen those "more skin shards" in boxes, 0 skin shards from leveling up too. I mean, help me out, guys. All of you know for a fact by now that we never said you'd get skin shards from leveling up. That's not what the system is for. And we also didn't change the rate that skin shards drop in boxes (we never said we would). You guys on the boards are some of the most engaged players who read everything we put out—I really need community members to call out stuff that's just straight up misinformation like this.
: I think OP made up the quote to farm upvotes, hence the lack of any citation. Making up something and putting it in quotes, which would indicate direct quotes (aka it was literally said by someone), is practically putting words in someone's mouth. And that's rude. And doing it just to refute it? Literally what the straw man's fallacy is. With these 100 upvotes for faulty logical fallacies and lack of tact? Kind of an echo chamber here. You're a brave Rioter to even enter this thread.
Yeah, imma get downvoted regardless of what I post because the orange essence disenchant rate changes are never gonna be popular. But I might as well come in here to set the record straight about why we really did it. And that after that's done maybe i can post some dank memes or something
Infernape (EUW)
: All of them. I personally liked them because they were pretty straightforward and didn't pull none of the "5 man premade" shenanigans of other missions and none of the missions or rewards were tied to a pass you'd have to buy with RP. I can see the few people that primarily don't play games on Summoner's Rift having an issue with the "win a game on **Summoner's Rift** in under 33 minutes" mission though.
How much stuff were you able to get with the tokens you unlocked? I'm not actually aware of how much it totaled out to
Quepha (NA)
: There have definitely been posts from Rioters implying that the OE nerfs were from an idea to redistribute player rewards from the hextech chests to other parts of the game (missions, events, etc.) yet it felt like the Overcharge event gave players much less in rewards than previous events (if you wanted the exclusive icon you wouldn't be able to afford any orbs at all) I'll try to find the red posts later, not really in the mood to sift back a week in the red tracker at the moment.
> There have definitely been posts from Rioters implying that the OE nerfs were from an idea to redistribute player rewards from the hextech chests to other parts of the game (missions, events, etc.) Yeah I say that exactly in the post I linked. But there's more to it than that. This is why I really want folks to read the post before commenting with feedback. I'm curious about your thoughts on the Overcharge missions. How many of the missions did you do?
: hows about you post public polls (use the client) and if it hits a certain threshold ie 80% of the masses, you go ahead and do whatever it is they say. but you wont, and you will never, because it doesn't meet the wants of the oligarchy in charge.
_League of Legends News Alert! _ COMMUNITY VOTES TO MAKE ALL SKINS FREE. TEEMO DELETED FROM THE GAME.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Cactopus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4fAcHIyE,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-12-05T19:34:18.367+0000) > > it quickly becomes pretty obvious that **this board is dominated by extreme opinions that don&#x27;t actually reflect the feelings of the broader League community at all.** So, even if we read it, we&#x27;re not going to give comments like that too much weight. and theres the confirmation that riot knows everything already and has no need for us at all. when riot wants our opinions they will give them to us. "help us improve, and share your feedback" (5000 to 1 said they didn't like the latest change) - riot: lets keep it, we invested too much into it already. (cough blue essence and leveling cough)
Don't cut the quote in half to remove the context! When I said "comments like that" I was talking specifically about a comment that calls the game "dog shit." If you think that comment qualifies as feedback, I gotta disagree.
Rexxiee (NA)
: "we nerfed orange esssence because you'd be getting more skin shards"
I'm not sure where OP pulled this quote from. And we need the community's help to correct things like this: > So far i havent seen those "more skin shards" in boxes, 0 skin shards from leveling up too. Skin shards from leveling up? That's not a thing. It's really harmful to upvote misinformation like this. To really understand about the orange essence nerfs, [here's a really detailed post about the orange essence nerfs](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/fRZopjhE-bring-back-the-old-value-of-orange-disenchant-riot?comment=0009) I made a while back on these boards. Please let us know how you feel about the explanation given there—I promise I'll pass on your feedback to the devs. Just do me a favor and make sure you read the post so your feedback is based on what we actually said about it!
: Riot has changed in a bad direction
Hey Dakuda330. This might sound hard to believe, but even though we don't always respond, **we actually do read the boards every day.** This is sort of taking it off-topic, but I think you're probably right that we don't really engage on the boards as much as we used to. Just to be super real with you, I guess I can share my thoughts about some problems we have with the boards: First, **the boards are really small compared to other English-language League communities.** If you're just looking at these official boards, you might think the League community is tiny. But it's not. It's just that most players ignore the boards. Basically our policy when it comes to engaging with players is to go wherever players go, whether that's Discord, Twitter, Facebook, or whatever other League community pops up. We don't really care about controlling the community or trying to make our official boards the biggest community—we'd rather let players decide where to go and then join them as members there. I personally post on [the League of Legends subreddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/) a lot. At any given point in time there's at least 30,000 people online simultaneously there. That dwarfs these boards by a lot. One other thing I've been thinking about recently is that there are actually fundamental problems with these boards. The biggest is that **there's almost no reason to go here unless you have a complaint about the game.** Since we really do read everything on the boards, players with issues know they can come here and get their complaint seen. This has the unfortunate side effect of turning the boards into a super concentrated echo chamber of salt. Just as an example, there's a poster in this thread who currently has 9 upvotes for saying "they turned a once fun game into a pile of dog shit designed to make them money, except now there isn't enough interest to actually make them any money." Compare that to the stuff you see on any other more-popular League community (like the subreddit) and it quickly becomes pretty obvious that **this board is dominated by extreme opinions that don't actually reflect the feelings of the broader League community at all.** So, even if we read it, we're not going to give comments or posts like that too much weight. I'm curious about your opinions on this, OP: do you think we should have Rioters posting in every single thread in the boards? Or does it make sense for us to take our current "read everything, respond when it's really important" approach? Obviously I know how I feel about it, but I'd like to see your thoughts now that I've explained our perspective.
Pika310 (NA)
: Why wouldn't I ask for this? His track record speaks for itself: he's never had a successful project that he worked on. * Sona rework? Massive failure, she disappeared from professional play as a result, even still to this day. * Season 5 jungle rework? It became nearly impossible for all, but less than a handful of champions to survive in the jungle. It took half the season to fix the jungle. * Season 6 jungle rework? Same as above, on a somewhat lesser scale. * Season 7 jungle rework? Jungle plants are still a heavily-debated topic. * Juggernaut rework? Even Meddler himself publicly admitted that this was an overall failure. I would've let an employee go for just the season 5 jungle fiasco alone. Wizards of the Coast frequently fires entire teams of employees for far less than that. I believe Blizzard does as well. The fact he's consistently allowed to lead so many large-scale projects that have all resulted in long-lasting game-altering negative ramifications speaks very clearly for Rito's employee management.
Just stop, dude. Personal attacks like this don’t belong here.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Cactopus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T5sZj9Ho,comment-id=000900010002,timestamp=2017-11-30T15:48:56.821+0000) > > When you guys upvote threads full of super aggressive rants or just misinformation, you shouldn’t expect Rioters to give time to it. 100% true. I really wish there weren't so many of those threads, and you guys didn't have to go through this huge dumpster to find the useful feedback. I admire you guys for your patience, honestly. Please know that even if those threads get all the upvotes from the whiny ignorant players, the majority of us are not like that, just most of them are either not active in the boards or aren't even negative enough to downvote the bad threads. I just don't want the trash feedback to affect this game just because it has that kind of representation in the boards.
It’s fine, we get feedback from lots of places, and we read just about everything on the boards anyway. I just wanted to explain why we don’t always respond to threads like the ones he linked.
: I believe that the "8 975 skins" is talking about how many 975 skins you need to disenchant in order to unlock a Legendary skin, not another 975 skin.
Ah, you might be right. Once I saw that the top comment in the thread was “you also get less key fragments now” (which is also not true) I noped out of that thread lol.
Pika310 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Cactopus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T5sZj9Ho,comment-id=000900010002,timestamp=2017-11-30T15:48:56.821+0000) > > So, let’s be real with each other here. The first three threads you linked are just random complaint posts about balance. If I were on the balance team, (I’m not) I’d probably read those to see what people thought, but there’s no way I’d just let myself be baited into an argument with every single complaint thread. That’d be pointless. So let me get this right. You think that [THIS](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/AnZYUfQy-do-not-let-that-sona-nerf-through) is nothing more than a "random complaint post?" Rito has blatantly left Sona in an unbalanceable state for over 3 years now, with patch 4.13 as the OBVIOUS culprit. Players have been demanding a reasonable response to this for over 3 years now. I'd hardly call this complaint "random," if anything it's been a CONSISTENT complaint. The only way you'd create an argument in that thread is if you yourself **intentionally **instigated the argument. You could tell people,"CertainlyT is aware of Sona's unplayability and planning an eventual rework that he will personally oversee." and players would be ecstatic to hear this. You could say,"Rito is contemplating a full revert back to her original pre-4.13 kit as a temporary fix until her 3rd inevitable rework." and the main inquiry would be,"When can we look forward to the revert?" You could even just tell us that you're handing Fearless a pink slip and we would at least know Rito is finally listening. You have responses you could make that won't result in an argument, but instead you're choosing to outright dismiss a complaint 3+ years running as nothing more than "random?"
>You could even just tell us that you're handing Fearless a pink slip and we would at least know Rito is finally listening. You’re actually asking for a coworker to be fired here. Screw that. I’m not taking the bait, sorry.
: Do you ever worry that some really constructive and fair threads are getting downvoted to oblivion and potentially unseen just because they aren't burning riot at the stake? The whole downvote/upvote thing seems to get messy where some people use their votes as a "I like or don't like this" metric, while others use it as a "this is constructive or unconstructive" metric, so unconstructive or unreasonable things that people like get upvoted a ton, while completely reasonable thoughts on more controversial issues get downvoted a ton. (The number of downvotes I've received in the past few weeks for pointing out that people get a min of 810 BE from level up capsules on threads complaining about getting less than 200 bothers me...)
Maybe, but we read comments just as much as threads themselves so we see downvoted ideas as well
Pika310 (NA)
: Typical Ritoer. Cherry-picking a pandering fluff thread to respond to, whilst blatantly ignoring real glaring issues. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Wepg7N96-oh-so-much-tenacity-everywhere https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/AnZYUfQy-do-not-let-that-sona-nerf-through https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/zIwfdEny-why-do-we-have-assassins-when-you-can-just-pick-j4 https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EEN5WLbk-the-people-got-better-argument https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/YU7wK2GP-first-win-of-the-day-and-orange-essence-problem
So, let’s be real with each other here. The first three threads you linked are just random complaint posts about balance. If I were on the balance team, (I’m not) I’d probably read those to see what people thought, but there’s no way I’d let myself be baited into an argument with every single complaint thread. That’d be pointless. The fourth thread is a discussion post aimed at other people in the community. I don’t know why you think it’s a scandal that no Rioter jumped in there. Nobody owes that thread a response, although it’s fine and well if somebody felt like going in there. Now let’s talk about that fifth and final thread. Boy do I have some thoughts about it. Now, I actually am working with the team that made the new leveling and rewards systems, so I thought about responding to that one. But once I read it I couldn’t figure out how it managed to get upvotes. Look at this line in particular: >if you want to disenchant 975 skins it will take 8 of them to just get it and that's assuming you have the luck to get 8 975s and you don't get 750s That’s straight up untrue. You get 20% of a skin’s value in orange essence when you disenchant skin shards. So it’s not true that it would take 8 975RP skin shards to get one skin. So, I’ll be honest, I thought about replying to that thread, but the prospect just felt exhausting. When you guys upvote threads full of super aggressive rants or just misinformation, you shouldn’t expect Rioters to give time to it. I think we owe it to you guys to listen to what you have to say, especially when you’re being critical, but we aren’t required to make an appearance in every thread. TL;DR: We read everything you guys post, and a lot of times we get really useful feedback from the boards, but I don’t think we owe a response to every single thread. Sometimes we don’t have an answer, and sometimes threads are just dumpster fires. Just sharing my honest perspective on it.
Naalith (NA)
: The 50 BE bonus should've been tacked onto FWotD, not traded for XP or not made at all
We thought about this. We decided we didn't want to do any more changes that make regular games feel worse when compared to the FWotD, so we actually came up with a better solution. At the same time we announced this change [we also drastically reduced the amount of XP needed to climb at higher levels](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/hAaYMrEs-leveling-and-rewards-early-impressions-and-adjustments) (it now stops getting progressively harder at level 50). Taken together, it's a win-win change.
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