: Patch 9.14 notes
I think the patch notes for {{champion:517}} are wrong, It says it blocks "ALL" magic damage However It does have a actual shield. not just blocks "ALL" damage. If you get hit with {{champion:45}} ult, at 200 HP it could still very well kill you, may need to touch that up guys.
: > [{quoted}](name=Im Lucifer,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=RL7vK1Ny,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-02-05T21:27:23.851+0000) > > We need a {{champion:91}} Lore update between him and {{champion:50}} idk if it was intentional but swain doesn't even recognize him unlike literally every other Noxian. Also {{champion:69}}, {{champion:55}}, {{champion:91}} are supposedly all in the same family but i dont believe any of them have any Voice lines to one another. Its not really anything major but it a little disappointing. They are old champions Champions from around that time period don't really have more then one interaction And yes, Talon needs a lore update just like {{champion:12}},{{champion:9}}, {{champion:42}}, and {{champion:54}}
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Zeta 1313,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=RL7vK1Ny,comment-id=00070007,timestamp=2019-02-12T17:44:49.429+0000) > > They are old champions > Champions from around that time period don't really have more then one interaction > And yes, Talon needs a lore update just like {{champion:12}},{{champion:9}}, {{champion:42}}, and {{champion:54}} I understand completely and agree with you selections as well. But Swain did just get one last year I believe and they left out talon is more what I was focusing on. with that comment. It urks the piss outta me that he was the only one left out XD
: Swain doesn't know Talon because Talon works for General Du Couteau alone, not as part of Noxus. Talon also has lots of lore currently to work with. After all, if you look into the lore of Cassiopia and Katarina, you will find out that Swain and LeBlanc know where General Du Couteau has disappeared too. It's implied that they killed him since in Talon's reveal, it shows two twin roses(LeBlanc) choking a fallen blade(General Du Couteau) while a three-eyed bird is perched on top(Swain). As for your second point, while Cassiopia and Katarina are sisters, Talon is not related to them and just works for their dad (General Du Couteau). While Talon and Katarina may work together from time to time, Cassiopia prefers to stay secluded after the cursed serpent sword turned her from a beautiful woman into the snake woman she is now(LORE CHANGES BE DAMMED!!!). As a result, she doesn't even let her own father near here, so why would she let her sister(Katarina) or some guy she hears about from the chatter of her personal guards(Talon) near her to strike up a conversation and create the bond that would lead to that voice line interaction. Overall, Talon doesn't need a lore rework or a voice rework. Riot just needs to put back the original lore into the game for all to see since learning how to navigate the lore pages on the site here is a major pain. You truly are The Devil for saying something so evil like lore being changed, especially for Talon who has such a rich lore if you willing to look for it.
> [{quoted}](name=Ranger Phelps,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=RL7vK1Ny,comment-id=00070006,timestamp=2019-02-11T05:52:06.392+0000) > > Swain doesn't know Talon because Talon works for General Du Couteau alone, not as part of Noxus. Talon also has lots of lore currently to work with. After all, if you look into the lore of Cassiopia and Katarina, you will find out that Swain and LeBlanc know where General Du Couteau has disappeared too. It's implied that they killed him since in Talon's reveal, it shows two twin roses(LeBlanc) choking a fallen blade(General Du Couteau) while a three-eyed bird is perched on top(Swain). > > As for your second point, while Cassiopia and Katarina are sisters, Talon is not related to them and just works for their dad (General Du Couteau). While Talon and Katarina may work together from time to time, Cassiopia prefers to stay secluded after the cursed serpent sword turned her from a beautiful woman into the snake woman she is now(LORE CHANGES BE DAMMED!!!). As a result, she doesn't even let her own father near here, so why would she let her sister(Katarina) or some guy she hears about from the chatter of her personal guards(Talon) near her to strike up a conversation and create the bond that would lead to that voice line interaction. > > Overall, Talon doesn't need a lore rework or a voice rework. Riot just needs to put back the original lore into the game for all to see since learning how to navigate the lore pages on the site here is a major pain. You truly are The Devil for saying something so evil like lore being changed, especially for Talon who has such a rich lore if you willing to look for it. I understand that Talon works for Du Couteau, but who does Du Couteau work for? Noxus? K Cool, so by proxy Talon works for Noxus. Now moving onto the fact that Talon isnt known by Swain. I believe that is complete and Utter Bull**** just for the fact that Swain has demonic observation because of the deal he made with whomever it was. I believe he can actually see through his Ravens, that being said There is absolutely NO WAY he doesnt know about or who Talon Du Couteau is. On to the second point. Talon was ADOPTED into the family of Du Couteau They are brother and sisters not by blood but by name. I can understand {{champion:69}} not having anything to say about Talon, but Talon would definitely have something to say about her. Just because of the way she looks they could throw something in subtle not big or lore impactful hell just something he says when they are both in a game together. As for {{champion:55}} , I'm sure Talon has sparred with her to test her mettle and being the daughter of Du Couteau She was probably not to bad at the blade and would probably recognize her out of respect if nothing else. She mentions him in a quote Im on his old lore that read. "The three deadliest blademasters in all of Valoran are bound to the house of Du Couteau: my father, myself, and Talon. Challenge us, if you dare." I agree he doesn't need a rework exactly he just needs a lore update add more to it not change it, Honestly the league judgment of Talon is an AMAZING piece of history that is no longer valid because of the summoners being gone. It needs an update.
: Patch 9.3 Notes: Lore Edition
We need a {{champion:91}} Lore update between him and {{champion:50}} idk if it was intentional but swain doesn't even recognize him unlike literally every other Noxian. Also {{champion:69}}, {{champion:55}}, {{champion:91}} are supposedly all in the same family but i dont believe any of them have any Voice lines to one another. Its not really anything major but it a little disappointing.
: UPDATE: Play games that matter with /remake
After reading the comments and the post. I've come to this assessment. Why not require one maybe two votes from the enemy team, if a first blood has occurred up to the ten minute mark? Here me out. Say the enemy mid lane dc'd granted a lot of people are NO DONT DO IT. But some people are truly very sportsmanlike, and would actually allow this. What are the odds that 5 out of five people are going to abuse you for having a DC I wouldn't because I enjoy playing out full five vs fives because I enjoy the game as a whole.
: [GAMEPLAY] Nocturne Ult
First time posting one of these so I'm not really sure of daily bumping is allowed or if it even matters so Bump.
Rioter Comments
: talon is a beast. I get a bit upset that his blink skill doesnt act like kat/jax ward hopping skills but whatevers. He's still super fun.
> [{quoted}](name=Deveyes,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZeIE1bmB,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-12-16T00:02:25.194+0000) > > talon is a beast. I get a bit upset that his blink skill doesnt act like kat/jax ward hopping skills but whatevers. He's still super fun. He has to much damage to be that mobile, I mean I can jump into the center of a teamfight and get everyone below 1/2 hp while killing squishes
SouL1ess (NA)
: I think Stormraider's Surge can work if you are good, because a lot of Talon's damage in lane comes from following the enemy laner and landing autoattacks on them. If you aren't that proficient with that you can fallback on Thunderlord's but Stormraider's is definitely not a bad choice.
> [{quoted}](name=SouL1ess,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZeIE1bmB,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-12-15T07:44:21.357+0000) > > I think Stormraider's Surge can work if you are good, because a lot of Talon's damage in lane comes from following the enemy laner and landing autoattacks on them. If you aren't that proficient with that you can fallback on Thunderlord's but Stormraider's is definitely not a bad choice. There is almost no one that can survive the level six burst. Thunderlords thrusts you into hyper carry status, you can take down tanks even with your burst, it's ridiculous. Stormraider is only beneficial if your afraid that you aren't going to get the kill. With talons current state there are only a few that can survive his burst. Dianna malphite maybe swain. At the moment stormraiders really isn't worth taking. Like at all. That's just how I feel. EDIT
: I have a question about Talon.
Sigh the thunderlords helps immensely. It's the extra damage early game that snowballs you scratch that AVALANCHES you into late game
: I have a question about Talon.
Don't take storm raiders DX. not worth I cry when I see people with it... Thunderlords is much better you can instant burst the back lines and leave in stealth just keep running don't fight
Rioter Comments
: Fnatic just lost to SKT because of a bug.
Okay this is what happened. {{champion:113}} got to the end of the terrain, **BUT **the last half of her model was stuck in the wall, so it put her back threw. And in my opinion he tried a risky move he could have just as easily kept going and dashed through the corner of the wall into the bush **TOWARDS **his ally naut and been fine. In my opinion if your gonna try and push the limits of the game it's bound to push back.
: Headhunter Akali strikes true
This is just sad. Akali is already apart of another Skin theme. Blood moon. She needs to be removed from one or the other... Another champion that would have fit the theme EASILY would have been Talon. He even looks like a headhunter type. Akali is about balance, and Talon is about the kill.... I'm disappointed with the choice of the final head hunter.
: Is Talon worth maining?
Look at my match history. If you get the right build and runes set up he's easily worth maining and dominates the solo queue scene with his ult that has a 30-40 second cooldown versus zed's 50-1:20 ult cooldown. And its a better teamfight item.
: Shark! everyone out of the pool! The idea has an easy translation with her fin and water vfx. I'm curious what you think her tunnel could be re-skinned as. Any ideas?
I was thinking a jet stream? Or maybe a coral tunnel? Like in the barrier reef? Thanks for the response!!
Utora (NA)
: Rek'sai Q&A [COMPLETED]
Can we please get a shark skin for her? It would be awesome even if its a legendary lr ultimate, make it have reactions with fizz and nami! Also is her ult global as long as theres a tunnel? Is the Xer'Sai race an insect swarm type? Such as ants? If so is it a possibility for a broodmother skin?
Lyte (NA)
: Rewards for positive play
Im down, although i'm sure that there are some negative ones aswell as positive... I'm not a saint by no means.
: Skins still in vault hours before being stolen
No it's obvious guys I can't believe im the first one to suggest this. Infiltrator {{champion:39}} is trying to steal the skins, along with all the vandal's {{champion:63}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:8}} are behind this! Stop them at once Rito!
: Recent Increase in Ping Spike Severity, PLS HALP.
Same problem... {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} PLEASE FIX THIS
Meddler (NA)
: Meddler Q&A
Where did you guys get the Idea for Talon, and also I was wondering if he had any skins in the work??
: I have not seen an 1820 skin go on sale before
The magnificent Twisted fate is a 1820 last time I checked
: SKT championship skins are here
Good thinking bringing them both back riot! Woot Woot!! We love you!!!
: Trials of the Poro
Looks like a new tank... Hopefully its not just the male form of {{champion:89}} .

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