: Don't do this to me. Also FWIW: IIRC, Riot hired like everyone who worked on Dawngate so it was only a matter of time. _Now where's my paint brush champion?_
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=r09PjM3A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-04T02:29:43.816+0000) > > Don't do this to me. > > Also FWIW: IIRC, Riot hired like everyone who worked on Dawngate so it was only a matter of time. > > _Now where's my paint brush champion?_ Glad to know those people didn't go to waste. Really liked the game.
Rioter Comments
: Irelia is op and Neeko is Lesbian
Are you trying to imply we should better nerf Irelia?
: Odyssey takes off soon
Thanks a lot for making the last stage unplayable on solo queue thanks to the missions, Riot. Really appreciate it.
: there are plenty of discussions that happen... theres also other subs that riot people visit, the championmains sub for example, theres also summonerschool which is a great resource.
japhib (NA)
: and you guys wonder why Rioters ignore these boards
On one side, yeah, personal attacks suck and all that; but then again, there is no real point in CertainlyT participating on the forums, considering he did not promote discussion even back when he did post.
: Honestly. This game is good.
Force of habit + free.
: I feel like a proper solution would be to bring Morello back into the balance team. At least with Morello, he actually and directly nerfed champions that were deemed too oppressive or unhealthy for everyone else. The new balance team just randomly buffs people to compensate for the stronger champions, increasing the power creep of the game.
Why do people insist on that? This entire issue of the rise to power of ADC is literally Morello's design. Has been since his intention to speed up the game since season 3, and he made entire blog posts about the importance of having the game center about having the main damage dealer as priority target. The entire balance patch centered around strenghtening lvl 1 ADCs back in season 3 was also his design, so you can thank him for having strong early/strong late carries.
Juhachi (NA)
: Why did riot apologize about making Kai'sa? "overly sexualized"
I only wanted to see digitalized tiddies, and these mean people don't let me {{item:3070}}
SEKAI (OCE)
: I only care about Bridget and Baiken, best waifu in the franchise (well, if you consider Guilty Gear and Blazblue the same franchise). Are they in this game? No B and B, no Blazblue cross tag battle, no buy.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=U8esJi67,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-04T10:41:01.876+0000) > > I only care about Bridget and Baiken, best waifu in the franchise (well, if you consider Guilty Gear and Blazblue the same franchise). > > Are they in this game? No B and B, no Blazblue cross tag battle, no buy. Likely no, since there is no modern 2D sprite they can recycle into Cross Tag.
: > [{quoted}](name=LesVitesses,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7Zl1E7Nf,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-03-04T02:08:52.536+0000) > > It's hilarious how you're whining about jungle while nothing's STILL being done about ADCs: the cancer of this game. > > Who gives a shit about top lane anywayz. Jungle is not the role which has turned top into uselessness; that's bot lane, buddy. ADCs haven't changed in years. Everything around them has changed. Runes, shields, heals, peel, etc. ADCs have never had a different build or play style outside of when armor pen/lethality was overtuned. ADCs are too strong because it's too easy for the jungler/mid/top to snowball their lane and then the support/tank to protect them, not because anything about the role has changed outside of Runes Reforged (a huge failure imo).
Just so you know, as it is currently worded, your argument could be paraphrased as follows: "There's nothing bad about ADC's since the game is centered around them. Every other mechanic or role is at fault when they are not properly balanced around them." Are you sure you want to go along with this?
: Kass and Kai have the personality of stale bread.
That's what Void does to you. Remember, kids: Never do Void.
: We've already said we're doing bottom lane work for midseason. ADCs will need to be included in some way or another.
So... what exactly is the idea Riot has on how supports should be, or should be doing? Since Season 3, it feels like Riot is running in circles, only nerfing whatever has the most synergy with the current meta ADC.
: I'm not sure why everyone is reacting this hard. Riot literally said they expected her to be unplayably bad and plan to buff her accordingly afterwards.
> [{quoted}](name=IAintDarius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9pQ4Ecu1,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-03-04T04:33:07.406+0000) > > I'm not sure why everyone is reacting this hard. Riot literally said they expected her to be unplayably bad and plan to buff her accordingly afterwards. Kinda reminds me of Evelynn, or the "we'll undo the nerfs if they prove too much" from Sona in S3.
: Are you guys serious? Crypto is literally the future of commerce. Decentralizing commerce and putting it into the hands of the public. YOU control your own money. Not the bank and not the government. Transactions across the world without a third party or converting currencies. Even if you do convert currencies, enjoy instant conversion at market rate with virtually no fees. If you guys don't support mining (which you shouldn't and Bitcoin is a dinosaur technology) you should learn about better cryptos that don't require mining like ICON and NANO. Don't cuck the future just cause you can't get a GPU.
> [{quoted}](name=HotnReady,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z4eAtwGH,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-02-09T09:07:21.442+0000) > > Are you guys serious? Crypto is literally the future of commerce. Decentralizing commerce and putting it into the hands of the public. YOU control your own money. Not the bank and not the government. Transactions across the world without a third party or converting currencies. Even if you do convert currencies, enjoy instant conversion at market rate with virtually no fees. If you guys don't support mining (which you shouldn't and Bitcoin is a dinosaur technology) you should learn about better cryptos that don't require mining like ICON and NANO. > > Don't cuck the future just cause you can't get a GPU. If by public you mean drug cartels and illegal weapon sellers, then I completely agree.
: Sejuani'd - Sona
Considering they once nerfed her over the potential impact **a bugfix** may have, without actual data to back up their claims, I'm not surprised in the slightest at what they're doing.
: I know those probably feel like small nerfs to you, but hitting all those items at once would almost certainly dumpster the marksman class. This game gets a lot of shit for being way out of whack, but people ignore it when a -3 base AD nerf actually works and brings a champ back into line. These numbers are closer to truly balanced than you think, and that's a big part of the reason that Riot is cautious when making changes to them.
Yeah. I think a better nerf would be to reduce that -15 damage from items but from Sona's Q aura and Janna's E. Because God forbid we touch AD items while the enchanter of the month gets butchered as a result of environment changes.
: BAYONETTA FREAKING 3
It's called Bayonetta 3 because that is the amount of pieces in which the purple ghost cut her.
: Morgana 60% Zyra 56% Come on Riot you hotfix Sona immediately for having 57%. Chop chop where's the hotfixes to Morg and Zyra.
It's a different case. If Sona deals 1 damage more than what Riot considers acceptable, they nerf her healing by 50% to compensate... and later reduce her damage by 1, as well.
: The state of the boards:
Ah, the good old "I'm better than you since I point out the flaws" post ... Which is the same that can be said about this very comment, of course. I LOVE irony.
Abibyama (EUW)
: Rito entering the boards
The saying "you reap what you sow" comes to mind.
: I'm not sure where OP pulled this quote from. And we need the community's help to correct things like this: > So far i havent seen those "more skin shards" in boxes, 0 skin shards from leveling up too. Skin shards from leveling up? That's not a thing. It's really harmful to upvote misinformation like this. To really understand about the orange essence nerfs, [here's a really detailed post about the orange essence nerfs](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/fRZopjhE-bring-back-the-old-value-of-orange-disenchant-riot?comment=0009) I made a while back on these boards. Please let us know how you feel about the explanation given there—I promise I'll pass on your feedback to the devs. Just do me a favor and make sure you read the post so your feedback is based on what we actually said about it!
Does this thing also have into consideration the reduction in OE due to the new emotes in your lootboxes, which activate immediately and cannot be dismantled like skin shards? And no. Emotes are not an actual prize, just in case you wanted to argue that.
: Kalista needs a non-competitive skin
Kalista needs her daddy to stop throwing bullshit at the game and calling it innovative designs.
: Zoe's E is so frustrating to play against
She was made by CertainlyT? No wonder, then.
: Why Varus's new lore was doomed to fail.
After this, I'm extremely worried how they'll manage Kayle and Morgana. Their story does not really have any of them being really good or evil, and is more a conflict between order and chaos, with both sides being in a gray moral area (kind of like the Megami Tensei series). I frankly don't see the lore team being good with handling gray morality, and I'm sure will turn one of them into a villain.
Aσtsuke (EUW)
: Revive's return has been leaked!
Revive: Instantly revives champion at your team's summoner platform. Max HP permanently decreased by 13%.
Ralanr (NA)
: You do realize you can be tough and determined without being serious all the time right? I get that people miss the no smile personality of old Poppy but that doesn’t mean they don’t have similar traits. They are still unflinching in their cause, Poppy just expresses not only hopes and joys, but fears. You know, like a person.
I always forget how Poppy did not smile after seeing her father get murdered by Noxian assassins. You know, like a normal person would.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rozzeta,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Jumtus1c,comment-id=009a,timestamp=2017-12-01T12:04:53.487+0000) > > Didn't read the lore yet. Is Varus an evil Garnet, now? Varus is now the name of the Darkin Bow. Val and Kai are two lovers who make up the host. One was mortally wounded, the other took them to the pit in the village, hoping it would revive him. Both were pulled down, Varus broke free of his prison and used the lovers to make himself a body, fusing the two into one. Now Varus wants to rampage and kill humanity for what they did to the other Darkins, while Kai and Val are together in the mind and try to hold back Varus from going on his spree. Oh, and all the family members survived.
So, basically, is Malachite with one more person.
: Riot ripped me off
Varus can't claim vengeance worth shit. That's Kalista's job.
DyQuill (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Foucz,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=z1dTsaQ6,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-30T16:29:39.262+0000) > > I wish someone could explain how new varus lore makes him more relevant than his old one. On the most superficial level, he went from being corrupted by an unrelated, ambiguous magical force to being corrupted by a darkin. He's now part of an ongoing conflict that involves multiple champions and regions. The choices he makes are no longer just about himself + the Noxians that killed his loved one, but also the future of the darkin race in Runeterra. I wouldn't go so far as to call him "irrelevant" before, but he's definitely a more connected and central character now.
I guess simply renaming the "unrelated, ambiguous magical force" to "Darkin" was too much of a trouble?
: Varus being CHANGED to Gay feels wrong for his character
Didn't read the lore yet. Is Varus an evil Garnet, now?
CLG ear (NA)
: People who don't support Net Neutrality: Why?
I don't live in USA, so my opinion on it won't matter; however I'm very curious if there is any California resident who, in spite of what happened when electricity companies had free reign on an unregulated market between 2000 and 2003, still think that internet companies having free reign on an unregulated market is a good idea.
: This is turning into an over-exaggerated witch hunt at this point. In EA's case they are price gouging people for what they have to pay for. In leagues case its just people complaining that they cant get free stuff as fast as they used to.
The case with EA, is that they tied the progression in-game with randomnes, and tied the randomness to a wait game, in order to cash in on the impatience of players who would not want to play for days just to receive a single prize. It works, because it constantly places the prize in front of your eyes, but out of reach of your hands, making said impatience build up Riot is doing the same, but without the progression. Certainly, you can just buy most things you want, but the human brain reacts more to a reward that's unexpected than to an expected one, and therefore a skin you would not buy directly becomes more enticing if given out due to a random shard piece. Then comes into play the "can't get free stuff as fast as they used to" you mention, because that is the point in which they cash in on the impatience of players, and those who received a high enough stimulus from their random prize and want to obtain it, but lack the OE to do so... welll, don't you think they might strongly consider purchasing a hextech box now, even if they never thought about doing it before? And maybe find something else they might also want in the process? That's the whole point of this system, to incentive additional purchases, and was placed in motion not because Riot wants to reward players from the bottom of their heart, but because it works on it's intended purpose. Certianly, Riot does not have monetary entry barrier, and the system does not direcly improve game performance, so most people will give it a pass actually buy their excuse of it beign a reward system to players. After all, those who are not affected, those who do not receive this stimulus from unexpected rewards will feel completely safe from this as they're not even affected indirectly from a progression perspective. But for those who do, this is not an innofensive system at all, and is as "predatory" (as it is fashionable to say, now) as what EA intended with their lootboxes.
Engelin (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=61GVAg2U,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-11-25T21:19:59.902+0000) > > Yeah. Because Risotto games must add RNG into literally every reward system they make. It's like obssesion now. Some people get reward for Honor some not. Some people get rewarded for S grades some not. Some people get properly rewarded for Levels some not. I wonder what will be next. The RNG is in place to encourage you to keep grinding because "maybe the next one will be good" Also to buy boxes In fact, the entirety of the 2018 metagame is built around abusing psychological quirks involving addiction to get people to buy boxes.
> [{quoted}](name=Engelin,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=61GVAg2U,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-25T21:22:28.706+0000) > > The RNG is in place to encourage you to keep grinding because "maybe the next one will be good" > > Also to buy boxes > > Actually, the entirety of the 2018 metagame is built around abusing psychological quirks involving addiction to get people to buy boxes. This needs more upvotes.
: Getting hit by Sleepy bubble Trouble in a nutshell
: Veigar's new lore confirms what we suspected all along
I don't know. One one side, it kind of fits him; but in the other, Veigar was like the opposite of Poppy before: While she was a more serious Yordle who didn't really enjoy being with her own people, Veigar was a normal Yordle who got isolated by force, and experienced the consequences. This bio hints that he willingly plays at being a villain now, rather than believing himself as one as a result of insanity.
: Anyone have any spare change?
I'm disappointed the mission requires 5 4s
: Leveling and Rewards - Improvements to Milestone Emotes, Capsules, & FWotD
: Thank you! Also, does anyone else find it kind disturbing how it she treats Sol? I mean, Sol is an acient deity that creates stars who her people have enslaved, used as a weapon agaist other empires and other cosmic deities, and if he tries to disobey, one of his stars, something he loves more than anything, is destroyed. Zoe treats him like dirt. Sure they try to make her look better than Pantheon because she protects his stars, but she calls him a 'space doggie' and treats him like a whiney kid who wants an ice cream. I hope she doesn't mind what the 'space doggie' will do once he's free.
To be honest, what I find disturbing is how Sol can still act all high and mighty when a goddamn 5 year old kid humiliates him on a daily basis.
: To be honest, Zoe's characterization is atrocious
Japan is going to love her. More seriously, I actually hope that the sociopathic nature was intentional, and she is a darker champion (Like having a follow up story reveal the Aspect of Twilight lost all hope in humanity and just wants to watch the wold burn). It's kind of what I was hoping for Jayce back when he was announced, only for Riot to enfoce his heroism later on. Besides, we already have the "adorable dangerous loon". She's called Lulu, and still managed to be more likeable.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rozzeta,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gPkzceob,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2017-11-17T10:47:21.095+0000) > > Or we could have it so Ezreal's Q no longer applies on hit effects. Considering how many items had to be nerfed/removed/changed just to prevent him from abusing them with his Q, I think that might be the major offender. And then Ezreal becomes completly trash. Not a good plan.
It's the "old Eve", plan. Completely useless, yes. But for once on hit effects will not require to specifically accounf for Ezreal to determine their very existence.
: > [{quoted}](name=Titty Spr1nkles,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rB6KhWf3,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-11-17T17:39:03.783+0000) > > League is free, I will give you that.. But they do offer in game power. Try to unlock 6300 BE champs with the amount of BE you get now. It will take months if not longer. I agree it isn't the exact same, but it is still a gambling system just like BF2 and almost all online games now. its not gambling cause you can buy everything straight up. the chests are for fun.
> [{quoted}](name=philosifer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rB6KhWf3,comment-id=0002000000000002,timestamp=2017-11-18T02:07:21.228+0000) > > its not gambling cause you can buy everything straight up. the chests are for fun. Oh, believe me they won't make a system like this just for fun.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rozzeta,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gPkzceob,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2017-11-17T10:47:21.095+0000) > > Or we could have it so Ezreal's Q no longer applies on hit effects. Considering how many items had to be nerfed/removed/changed just to prevent him from abusing them with his Q, I think that might be the major offender. doing this would legit gut ezreal to the point where he would be 100% unplayable and useless
But better for literally everyone else. Seriously, we can't keep having everything balanced around if Ezreal can break it or not.
: Pretty much this. The people who have trouble with {{champion:157}} don't play him or play him enough to understand his kit. And since 80% of games are silver its very unlikely thats going to change. Quick tips facing {{champion:157}} as a mid - For the love of all things holy, pop his shield with an auto before trying to trade. - Realize if you're playing an immobile champ, yas excels at empowering ganks and chasing you down. You should be wary anyways as an immobile mid. - Don't take tp into a yas lane. You're not going to make up the ~20 cs deficit from giving first blood because you got back to lane to die again quicker. - Realize that once he ults you, he will do more dmg due to his armor pen (that comes from his ult) after that for some odd number of seconds.
> [{quoted}](name=The Peter Policy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NazcB9vW,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2017-11-16T20:29:31.879+0000) > > - For the love of all things holy, pop his shield with an auto before trying to trade. "Ya... Yasuo Sempai... I'm going to trhow a single ranged auto at you and... and that's it! I...It's not like I'm want to rush you down with all my burst after your shield is down or anything... baka." Now I need to find a ranged tsundere champion, and and my ultimate counter to combat weaboo with weaboo will be perfect.
Durzaka (NA)
: His ban rate is one of the highest (third highest in fact), and yet his win rate is nearly one of the worst in the entire game. So what exactly does that tell you about the character? Not that he is overpowered, like everyone on Boards cries. But simply that people don't want to fight against him.
It could also tell that, due to his high ban rate, whenever he is picked is against teams which expect to have ways to deal with his bullshit.
: Two potential answers. 1.Increase Kelptomancy's cooldown to make it less spammy. 2. Nerf the effect on range champions. This by itself has two ways. A: Remove the bonus attack range for ranged champions. B: Decrease the change of getting bonus items as a range champion. My only concern is that it would hurt mages that might like kleptomany, so in hindsight, the first option would probably be the best one out of what I've suggested.
Or we could have it so Ezreal's Q no longer applies on hit effects. Considering how many items had to be nerfed/removed/changed just to prevent him from abusing them with his Q, I think that might be the major offender.
Destaice (NA)
: "EA's greedy business model screwed us over! I'm shocked this happened!"
It's pretty much the same kind of model Leage follows now, save perhaps the P2W part. But well, I'm sure someone will manage to justify it on LoL being free and all that. Totally not trying to harpoon the whales. EDIT: Oh, it was already here. I didn't notice.
: Hey, I'll pop in here to share our perspective. We're actually keeping a pretty close eye on the value of purchasable hextech chests. I don't mean to shock you, but we like selling chests. So we want it to feel good when you buy them. FWIW, here’s our basic take on it: yes, orange essence disenchant rates are nerfed. But we also made some other positive changes to the system. For example, it's now guaranteed that you'll never go three rolls in a row without getting a skin. (That's what we mean when we talk about bad luck protection). You also can now get chests inside of your chests—and you can even get bonus chests when you reroll skin shards. We're pretty sure these changes will make buying chests feel good even at their current price point. BUT, we could be wrong! If it turns out that these changes aren't as good as we thought, we'll continue to iterate. First we want to see how different players around the world are engaging with the chests and feeling about them before making changes. Edit: In case you missed it, [here was the previous thread where I talked about more of our thinking behind the OE nerfs](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/fRZopjhE-bring-back-the-old-value-of-orange-disenchant-riot?comment=0009).
With "keeping a pretty close eye", do you mean that anyone purchasing chests with RP is now a guinea pig? If the lab rats eventually prove that the system was not working as intended, will you compensate them, like a bad luck protection against the bad luck of being test subjects? Should I be happy to learn that the system previously allowed players to go through big stretches with no skins, only for it now being limited to just 3 times (basically meanin I have to purchase 4 chests to be eligible for a skin)? Oh, by the way, does getting an Emote constitute "bad luck" for the system as well? And there was I thinking that the mysterious skin box was a bad gambling practice...
Meddler (NA)
: That was a deliberate change, yeah. With everything going on it must have got missed when patch notes were put together.
I can't understand this. There've been multiple items that have been either removed or rebalanced just so Ezreal could not abuse them. Why increase the amount of stuff he can abuse?
: ADCs should pay for their transgressions.
This made me remember when the item was first released, and I had people quit games outraged because I was "stealing their farm".
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