: Preseason Dev Update Number 2!
On a similar topic to turret power... Because there is an option to swap out summoner spells throughout the game (Unsealed Spellbook). Has the team ever considered bringing back more defensive summoner spells that were otherwise less useful to teams that are far ahead, a modified version of fortify is what comes to mind. One of the draws I had to that particular summoner spell back in the early life of this game was that it gave tower shots AoE and allowed for a player to defend against multiple people pushing. Could also be tooled into an item, though that takes investment into an item assuming you are going to fall behind.
Porocles (NA)
: Don't worry, we can help! Your friend submitting a ticket was a great plan, as our account team can help towards recovery. If he doesn't have access to the account, then he might have problems accessing the ticketing site. Instead, have him fill out an [account recovery form](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=72416) which doesn't require a login, and will instead go to the email he submits in the form. Your friend should go over our [account protection ](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751664-Protecting-Your-Account) guide in the meantime to make sure his info is secure. Thanks for looking out for him!
We now have over 9 emails from the person who stole the account (in the last 3 hours), including messages of them admitting to taking the account. They are persistently sending emails to my friend. She is extremely distressed at the lack of response from riot, i am trying my best to help on this side, but we just want some progress if we can.
Porocles (NA)
: Don't worry, we can help! Your friend submitting a ticket was a great plan, as our account team can help towards recovery. If he doesn't have access to the account, then he might have problems accessing the ticketing site. Instead, have him fill out an [account recovery form](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=72416) which doesn't require a login, and will instead go to the email he submits in the form. Your friend should go over our [account protection ](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751664-Protecting-Your-Account) guide in the meantime to make sure his info is secure. Thanks for looking out for him!
Good Morning, I just wanted to update you on the status. My friend has just received automated ticket responses to her email about tickets being submitted by the thief. Update 2: She has now gotten a direct email from who we believe is the thief.
Porocles (NA)
: Don't worry, we can help! Your friend submitting a ticket was a great plan, as our account team can help towards recovery. If he doesn't have access to the account, then he might have problems accessing the ticketing site. Instead, have him fill out an [account recovery form](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=72416) which doesn't require a login, and will instead go to the email he submits in the form. Your friend should go over our [account protection ](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201751664-Protecting-Your-Account) guide in the meantime to make sure his info is secure. Thanks for looking out for him!
She already submitted the account recovery form, but it did not send a receipt of request to her email address. That is what we are worried about right now. Riot Support Twitter guided us to the recovery form and said we should wait till Monday for a response. She is just very worried about the account as it was transferred to EUNE and the name was changed. Thank you for the response.
  Rioter Comments
: Old yorick was beautiful, the oldschool model was just one of the dopest models, especially with all the details with the shadows etc, just like old mao kai, new mao is just way too.... I'm not even gonna comment. I hate changes, but forced to play with them, which is the problem. Riot is focusing their new cartoon game way too hard, w/o giving a single fk about oldschool players, which imo should be their most respected group, since those we're their players when league wasn't as popular.
people also forget about his charming goofy animations
: but everything has to change the reason he hasnt gotten any skins is because of the way he looks his model makes it impossible to give him decent skins.Cant people see how counter intuitive trying to make a traditional skin is since the skin used all the resources from the old model which riot completely changed
they could have done less with this remodel and kept him true to his old look. this was overboard.
Rueian (NA)
: Full Definition of niche 1 a : a recess in a wall especially for a statue b : something (as a sheltered or private space) that resembles a recess in a wall 2 a : a place, employment, status, or activity for which a person or thing is best fitted <finally found her niche> b : a habitat supplying the factors necessary for the existence of an organism or species c : the ecological role of an organism in a community especially in regard to food consumption d : a specialized market The new art design is generic and bland in comparison to the old art design. It doesn't have to be food consumption, it says "especially" you realize you consume more things than food? Watching a movie, is consuming. His old art style and animation design was much more unique and charming than the new rendition coming out.
you can not like the old yorick, that is fine, but he has alot if value. old yorick had a bad kit. everything else was fine overall. he needed a new kit and MINOR updating. this whole thing is going overboard.
: i think of it more as "character evolution" then just remaking a champion. he was a grave digger that after so many dug graves desired to put an end to the only growing demand. So he instead becomes a necromancer who uses a cloak that holds the souls of the dead and shovel that after so many years of digging graves acquired a connection to the souls and uses it as a channeling device or amplifier for his magic. now he battles the darkness with the souls of the ones he would have put to rest. its much more satisfying to think of it this way then just riot taking every thing that made Yorick Yorick and changing it and leaving him with a useless shovel so they could claim he was the same champion.
You can evolve a character without deleting everything that has to do with the character. You dont see Pikachu evolving into Electabuzz. They arn't visually and barely mechanically the same. The only thing they share is yellow and electric.
: Interesting that you chose the only portion of that definition that doesn't apply to this scenario. >the ecological role of an organism in a community especially in regard to food consumption That's the definition, though in this case food consumption is not the ecological role we are discussing. Stop being dumb. Stop being stubborn. Start realizing that old Yorick served literally no function in the current game, and accept the fact that he will now be at least a decent champion in terms of gameplay, lore, and art design.
Full Definition of niche 1 a : a recess in a wall especially for a statue b : something (as a sheltered or private space) that resembles a recess in a wall 2 a : a place, employment, status, or activity for which a person or thing is best fitted <finally found her niche> b : a habitat supplying the factors necessary for the existence of an organism or species c : the ecological role of an organism in a community especially in regard to food consumption d : a specialized market The new art design is generic and bland in comparison to the old art design. It doesn't have to be food consumption, it says "especially" you realize you consume more things than food? Watching a movie, is consuming. His old art style and animation design was much more unique and charming than the new rendition coming out.
: You people need to learn the meaning of the word "niche". http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/niche Read those please. Niche has literally NOTHING to do with what a champ looks like, and EVERTHING to do with their functionality. If rek'sai was remade into a gray blob with 0 sound effects, she would still serve the same niche because she would still be the a huge scouting jungler with great gank potential. Similarly, if they take yorick and make him look like emo Taric, he niche is still the same, because his kit still focuses on summoning ghouls. I admit, yorick's niche will change due to this update. He will now be a necromancer and have a lot of minion swarming mechanics to overpower enemies in 1v1 situations and shove lanes like a mofo. This is going to be a slight adjustment for those that were used to his former niche: meme fodder.
Niche a specialized market So you are saying art styles are not niche... I think you dont understand exactly how broadly niche can be used. The visual design that yorick held as a monsterous human is his niche, which he greatly lacks now. He looks like a buff spooky guy with literally no throw back to his ailments... You need to quit looking at his abilities and understand that the visuals are all i'm talking about.
: Complaining About The Merch Store: How can a pre-order, be sold out? sigh....
Welcome to collectables being sold. Its a sad, but they only print so many.
: Says who? So far I've read nothing that states "yorick must be a monstrous and disfigured creature". And visually changing rek'sai to elise (ie an animal that walks on its multiple legs to a pretty standard looking woman) is just an asinine comparison. Also please explain what you meant before by "visual niche". Do you understand what "niche" means? Visuals have nothing to do with niche.
... Since yorick was ever made... he has always been that. If reksai was changed to a woman standing up straight she would no longer fill her niche as a void monster along with kogmaw and chogath. Aesthetic is also a thing that can be niche. Yorick's visual design is that he is a hunchback, gravedigger. I say sickly because of times in his idle animations, laugh and joke. He is suffering from his ailment of being hunch, as well as in his laugh he doubles over with coughs. He also had charming animations in that sense. Not being able to adjust his lantern, his hopping walk cycle. Imagine if swain lost his limp.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rueian,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=QK2zk272,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-24T01:05:03.218+0000) > > I mean they ruined yorick&#x27;s design. He looks terrible visually now and has a boring voice. I agree with the voice buut he looks awsome
Yorick was a sickly hunchback gravedigger. Where in the new design is any of that. He is barely a gravedigger... he feels like spooky dude with shovel. I dont like his visuals because it is bland. It is a base line warlock with a shovel. he is big and glowey. but he isn't Yorick Mori
: Old yorick was busted as hell though...I understand that there are those of you who like him, but his kit was just horrible. His old ghouls were wonky at best, and his art/model were just really outdated. And his old kit was NOT at all hard to play/use effectively (except for perhaps his ult, but even then, there are much more difficult abilities to use). You literally just spam your ghouls for the damage and slow, and let them passively increase your dps while they are out. This new yorick still has the same swarm summon mechanics, but it's much more gated by the fact that he can only do it under certain scenarios. That means riot can make his ghouls much more powerful and impactful, as he can't simply roll his face across the keyboard to summon them. This means that his role as a necromancer will be much more apparent, as opposed to it being a secondary effect of him using his abilities. And as for the art design, yes, they took away his undead look in favor of a more true shadow isles ethereal ghostly design, but his ghouls still have the zombie feel (apart from his ult, but that's supposed to be a specter not a zombie). And his donut is MADE FROM CORPSES. I'd call that pretty zombie-themed.
Yorick was a sickly hunchback gravedigger. Where in the new design is any of that. He is barely a gravedigger... he feels like spooky dude with shovel.
: But. He WAS a shadow isle champ. Even in his old lore. Also, the shadow isles storyline is IMO the single best lore conglomerate in the game. Adding yorick as an original Blessed Isles champ is much needed. It gives us even more of the best storytelling that riot has given us to date, and gives him a much better motivation for being a "gravedigger"/shephard of souls (kind of the same thing in the spiritual sense) than just "he was upset about not having an heir and is really sad and digs graves because".
I'm not even talking about his lore... do you not understand "VISUALS" I made the comparison already... the change is like changing reksai into elise visually. Yorick is suppose to be monstrous
: He filled literally no niche except being annoying for riot to balance. He needed a complete overhaul and a more effective and game-changing ultimate, and he badly needed a visual update. Also, Riot has been trying to consolidate shadow isles champs for literally years, and I'm surprised it took them this long to get to yorick. I'm not saying that I think new yorick is going to be the best champ ever, but he's a damn sight better than old yorick in every way.
VISUAL NICHE... god why do people think i am hating on the kit... I love the new kit. Yorick was a monsterous human being a sickly hunchback gravedigger. Yorick isn't really a shadow isle character in the kin of thresh or kalista. He always felt more like an exiled human who just lived in the cursed lands of the shadow isles. I just want an update to the old model and animation sets. [Dampe (Legend of zelda)](http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/3/3e/Damp%C3%A9's_Heart-Pounding_Gravedigging_Tour.png) [Ephialtes (300)](http://images.propstore.com/77363.jpg)
Zydron (NA)
: Gul'dan is not bland
Player characters. And a copy of gul'dan would be bland.
: What you smokin bro? They made him into a much more true shadow isles champ. Shadow isles champs have some of the absolute best looks and lore. His old model was meh at best and his lore was horrendously outdated. Give Riot credit where it is due, and focus your efforts on getting shit like this tanksassin meta and DQ cleaned up.
the new yorick model is bland in comparison to the unique niche Yorick Mori filled visually. He just needed a functional kit and some visual updating. He didn't need a design change.
: I mostly agree with this, yes his newer visual model is a lot more modern and cleaner than his older one, but i think his older one had a much better design and felt a lot more unique than his current one. I mean to me Yorick is reminiscent of Dampe from Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time which was how I had always picture gravediggers. To change that entirely just upsets me because he's not the gravedigger anymore and he's not the Yorick that he used to be which is why I want a Traditional Yorick skin.
Exactly... Yorick was litterally Dampe. He was a sickly goofy hunchback. He lost everything. His hopping walk cycle, his stretching to get comfortable, scratching his back with the shovel. Trying to adjust his lantern but not being able to reach because of his hunch. This character isn't Yorick.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rueian,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=QK2zk272,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-24T01:05:03.218+0000) > > I mean they ruined yorick&#x27;s design. He looks terrible visually now and has a boring voice. I beg to differ. He does look more generic in terms of style/design, but it is an upgrade from his old model visually. I wish they still kept the gravedigger aspect to him though, but just expanded on it. Maybe he died but still kept digging. His shovel feels more like a staff/wand then it does a shovel used for gravedigging
They removed everything that was UNIQUE about yorick... the yorick change is like turning reksai into elise. Yorick is suppose to be the human equivalent of a monster. Which is heavily what hunchbacks are. This character isn't Yorick Mori.
: > [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cz0JcUah,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-24T04:09:19.251+0000) > > I don&#x27;t think you understand what the term &quot;relaunch&quot; means he is just one of the very few that liked yoriks old design compared to the new one. its kinda the same story with trundle and karma. they completely ditched what was charming and unique about them for something completely different(karmas fans and the toxic/plague/garbage theme that only twitch and trundle shared). however this new yorick design does not do that at all. they stayed true to his old theme, he just isnt a hunchback cripple anymore.
The visual design is also grossly bland and generic. Again example WoW Warlock. This doesn't stay true to his individual theme. The visual design both for him and his 'ghouls' are so removed from yorick. And the VO just feels lazy. Yorick being a hunch back is like swain being a cripple but to a greater extreme. It is a design choice that speaks volumes about the character. Even if it is a cliche its probably why so many people were mad when graves lost his cigar. Trundle's change was massive and the two characters that are Trundle 1 and Trundle 2 are joined by an entire kit. Yorick 1 and Yorick 2... are only connected by a shovel.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rueian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cz0JcUah,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-08-24T04:43:47.373+0000) > > No other character has been this grossly removed from their relaunch. > This isn&#x27;t yorick in any way. > > Every other reworked character had atleast most of themselves worked into the new concept. This was literally &#x27;dude with shovel&#x27; not &#x27;sickly hunchback gravedigger&#x27; you are severely wrong on this. like i already mentioned look at pre rework trundle and karma. there themes were completely trashed and people are still hating riot for that to this day, especially with karma and her fans. even her traditional skin doesnt use the fans.
Trundle is close but had his kit unaltered and only received a lore rework, which arguably was very dumb. His visual rework still gives the 'king of trolls' feeling. Karma similarly was changed very little, keeping most of her kit at least relatively similar and her visual design barely changed. Yorick had a terrible disfunctional kit, but a unique 'character'... they tossed out the kit like they should have... but also tossed out the unique character that was yorick. only the shovel is parallel to old yorick.
: same thing with sion man... i feel your pain
Well sion had much more of his identity transferred between the concepts. but ya sion's change was pretty hefty.
: Crying about a champ you dont play?
i did, but stopped because his kit was just not fun. I enjoyed everything about him but he was just tuned in such a way that made him near unplayable. I wanted nothing more than a better kit for the guy.
: I don't think you understand what the term "relaunch" means
No other character has been this grossly removed from their relaunch. This isn't yorick in any way. Every other reworked character had atleast most of themselves worked into the new concept. This was literally 'dude with shovel' not 'sickly hunchback gravedigger'
: The Problem With Yorick
They changed him too much visually.
: What Riot says was wrong with Yorick
I'm sad to see the theme of old yorick gone... all they kept was his shovel and the idea that he was a summoner. I'm gonna miss the sickly hunchback gravedigger.
Bellows (NA)
: Is anyone else MALPHITE levels hard for this Yorick?
No, because he looks generic as shit and should have just been his own character design... Nothing about this character looks or feels like yorick. The kit is fine, but the visual redesign is bland, it litterally looks like a WoW Warlock. This rework sucked the soul out of yorick.
Rioter Comments
: What animations? Hit guy with a shovel, ghoul appears, raise shovel, ghoul appears. And hid model was, far, far worse than his new one, you can argue about theme, but his new model actually looks like a character and not a jumbled mess pf green and brown.
his base model just needed updating along with his kit. you arn't looking at the idle animations and his walk cycle and the things that gave yorick character. The new design and voice over is literally sucking everything unique away from yorick. http://www.lolking.net/models?champion=83&skin=0 Maybe you should get yourself familiar with more of his animations.
: Yorick's Voiceover is Amazing!
His new voice over is trash... just like the visuals. he sounds and looks like taric... literally everything about yorick except 'summons ghouls' and 'shovel' was removed This isn't yorick... this is some other guy. Everything about old yorick except his kit was fine. if they just changed his kit and maybe updated his model it would have been great. His voice was good, his animations were charming... This is neither.
: he looks like {{champion:13}} cousin.
He looks like taric trying to cosplay.
: Traditional Yorick Skin
I mean they ruined yorick's design. He looks terrible visually now and has a boring voice.
: One Yorick meme survives
Yorick looks like a WoW character now... bland
Sciela (NA)
: What drives terrible people to play ranked?
They want to try It's annoying... but riot gave you dynamic queue.
Rioter Comments
: why are you in your current elo? what elo would you rank yourself in, and what is holding you back?
it can go on either side. on one side the community, both in bad teams and with being treated poorly as a player. 'its just a game' 'toxic' 'kill yourself' 'stop being negative' 'you are bad'. all of these things are consistently said to me... and im really sick of it, even if it's aggressive, a complaint with substance would be better. an issue with the fact that the game gets fast paced. riot says the community is getting better... ya, no... it's only gotten worse each season. On the other side, I am emotionally unstable and very emotionally invested in each match.. I get upset and lose morale easily. be it my fault or someone else's, I can sometimes go a bit off the deep end. I don't feed and I don't surrender, but I do complain about the game state and say what we should do. often times no one listens which only gets me more angry or depressed. ranked should just be removed. it's too stressful and the largest source of toxicity. I am silver 2, and I don't know where I could get to, I'm rusty
: Why is racism and homophobia not an instant punishment? (in game)
Actually Context gives quite a bit. If you start saying something is bad in all context you tread very dangerous ground. the system is automated and tries to estimate context to my understanding. Give it time, if the are consistent they will be removed. But be reasonable
XerShade (NA)
: If your team deny's you more then twice stop. If you want to leave that badly, close the game and take the eventual ban you will receive for leaving so much. I report people like you who spam that annoying f***ing box every three minutes, really distracting when enemies get away because some jerk decides he wants to rage quit and my cursor hits that box instead of the enemy. Oh sorry, you want reason why you "can't" be reported for surrender spamming, my bad let me remove that Assisting Enemy Team reason.
it can go either way. the team denying a surrender equally encourages a negative situation to continue.
: the fact is until that nexus explodes you cant confirm a game is unwinnable
You can definitely extrapolate based on current patterns.
: > [{quoted}](name=Doctrorpheus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3bh4BEiB,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-07-11T00:47:56.934+0000) > > Yeah, well when were losing and I don&#x27;t see a way to win. I use it. That&#x27;s what it&#x27;s for. There is no way that should be punishable. Sometimes I&#x27;m wrong and we come back and win. Good, that&#x27;s a nice surprise. I want it clarified that it&#x27;s not punishable and the reports are false. if you use it every 3 minutes when its off CD, its not a false report, its called spamming. if you spam surrender every 3 minutes or 5 or whatever, i forgot how long it takes to restart a vote, then you absolutely need a ban, because that is annoying as fk.
I dont think hostages should be punished for wanting to get off the ride.
: > [{quoted}](name=Doctrorpheus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3bh4BEiB,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-07-26T02:11:24.153+0000) > > Spamming is typing the same thing over and over in chat or otherwise using the chat feature over and over crowding out any other comments in the chat box with your spam. > > It is NOT using the surrender feature of this game that can be used every 3 minutes. > > You kids can call it &quot;spamming surrender&quot; but that is not the punishable offense of spamming. yea, but thats not how punishments work here in league, if you use surrender every 3 minutes, and annoy enough people with it you will get punished, because punishments are largely based on how many times you get reported per game and how many games you get reported in. you can easily not do anything you would consider bad, but annoying your teammates will still get you banned, assuming they report you. and trust me, you get reported for spamming surrender. so, you keep doing whatever you want, just dont be surprised when the bans come in.
the whole reporting system has gotten out of hand anyway. People getting punished for the mildest of things.
Otter36 (EUW)
: Dont do the "ugh guys this game is lost" and spam surrender, no. Put up the surrender vote once, and if it's cancelled is cancelled and keep playing. But spamming is basically the same thing as being negative and annoying
being negative shouldn't be punishable. It is an emotional response.
: I really agree with the whole tank should deal less damage thing. Yes, an adc shouldn't expect to live if they built glass cannon, HOWEVER, a tank should not be able to do as much damage as they are currently because of their high base damages. I'm honestly tired of players constantly saying "oh if tanks didn't have damage, then they would be disregarded during team fights!1!1!" Newsflash, they aren't disregarded because cc, lockdowns will always keep your opponents on their feet because as an ADC or a Mage you want to constantly be dpsing and dishing spells and as soon as you get cc'ed that dps and spell casting is stopped so guess what? Tanks aren't disregarded during team fights just because they aren't dealing damage.
Depends on what kind of CC they have, with Mobility creep being matched up with a wider spread of CC ( CC creep?), they cant balance a character to do no damage due to that forcing it into the role of a support as it would HAVE to have someone near by to be useful. The game is literally made to allow a player to feel useful alone, which causes HUGE balance issues. Riot ruins their own game balance to try to keep as many people happy playing.
: Since it works based on rank rather than MMR(/ELO as in the first season or two), people can get to gold 5, then lose a bunch of games and end up silver 4ish as far as elo is concerned and still be eligible for the skin since they wouldn't be demoted until they reached silver 5ish mmr. As a result, it's not as simple as "The top 30% of players get the skin" or whatever the current distribution is, so mathematically speaking there isn't a strict requirement that bronze%>silver%>gold%, but rather that just happens as a side effect of statistics and how the players skill distribution actually lies. (Incidentally, currently silver has a bigger % of players in it than bronze does according to op.gg.)
my point is unless the community as a whole colludes with a mass of win trading, not everyone 'can' get gold+. The system slowly inflates global LP as people win and lose under certain circumstances, this can get stuff like early Korean Rank distribution 2 seasons ago with only about 20% of the player base below Gold. Ideally i'd want them to keep the requirement of earning gold but allow players to retry for the skins they missed each year. I don't understand why people think it is necessary to not allow people to be able to, you have a crest to show 'when' you earned gold+, why must the skin do it too at the detriment of newer players or players who had a bad season.
: Why shouldn't the skin be the trophy?
Exactly what i said in my other response. > there are different kinds of earning. the method in which they have right now is exclusive rather than inclusive. It is available to at most a select % of players which makes it more exclusive, where as making it a goal like winning X number of ranked games would be Inclusive.
: You're right, and that's exactly why it's a **reward.** It's earned, not bought, and not given.
there are different kinds of earning. the method in which they have right now is exclusive rather than inclusive. It is available to at most a select % of players which makes it more exclusive, where as making it a goal like winning X number of ranked games would be Inclusive.
: Sure it will. If you improve enough before the season ends, you'll get the skin. If not, you won't because you haven't earned it. Let's say you play soccer and your team is doing play off games to determine which team is the best. You lose in the first round and are eliminated. Does your team deserve a trophy? Now that same team has practiced a lot and comes back for next year and wins the whole tournament. Does your team get a new trophy for this year or do they just reuse the one from last year? Of course they get the new trophy because winning this year doesn't mean they won last year.
the skin shouldn't be the trophy a permanent badge on your account along with the boarder for the year. That should suffice.
: Assuming they were alive at the time, they had the chance, they just didn't put in the time/effort. Theres a whole bunch of limited skins out there, not just the victorious ones. Why should the victorious ones, which are specifically commemorative for a particular rank season be available to all, while other limited skins which are less intrinsically tied to a particular period remain unavailable?
very few of the limited skins haven't come back.
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