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Um...ok i guess, except for one not so small problem - we have that exact scenario already. We can look up the player, see that they are a division higher and see their win rate for the season, then for the champion, and we have apps that will tell us things like "can carry" "good farmer" and well pretty much everything they need to feel your "fog of defeat"
In short, i fail to see how a number associated with the overwhelming other forms of data will make such a negative impact. We have the pie chart already..just tell us what the colors mean.
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I see absolutely no reason why a stat can't be visible. They dont even have to rank people based on the mmr...but they are still using the same calculator, and the numbers are in the system somewhere, all i want to do is look at the thing.
Whats so terrible about that?
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first of all, thats precisely when i have time to play before work. secondly...that pathetic patch could have waited till the season was done.
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we have less than a week and youre disabling ranked for this garbage update? keep giving me reasons to divorce this company. Your decision making is so poor...
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> [{quoted}](name=RuFiot,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WkJJ9REU,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-25T21:19:17.339+0000)
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> I divided _offensive_ to two:
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> * _offensive_ toxic (all the _personal stuff_ (like "f'ing bad decision"))
> * _offensive_ adding color to sentence (without anything that is personal (like - "I f'ing hate Mondays")) that not all want to see (it annoys you to hear that powerful word )
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> On the first thing I agreed is bad.
> On the second, I can see your point of view and said it need more looking onto and i didn't even state my ground, If I don't say an opinion I can't really disagree with you, most of my text is just trying to define the problem more precisely.
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> About the second paragraph, you gave an example and said that the cursing word makes it toxic and the conversation will escalate more because of it, I tried to say the whole example isn't valid cause the sentence is itself toxic with or without the cursing words (so you should not have said it in the first place) and explained what is a valid sentence.
> The example you gave was part of the point you were trying to make so attacking it is not off-topic imo.
With that explanation now understand where you were going and in that context, it would not be off topic. As to curse words not inherently making a sentence "toxic" My view, in summary, is that no matter what or how you say it, the curse word always adds a hint of aggression to whatever your saying which fertilizes the ground for further aggression thereby becoming a "toxic" catalyst. Now your view may differ, and thats fine, and perhaps this instance is not even an example of the radical widespread bitterness and hateful mistreatment of people that i have experienced in game and on boards, however i see a moral platform and a solid argument to the contrary...perhaps my morals are old fashioned but im not letting them go.
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> [{quoted}](name=RuFiot,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WkJJ9REU,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-25T20:47:28.161+0000)
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> Yes they do standout (makes you feel something/color ) that's why they are special, I can see that a reason pro stopping using them can be - not everybody like to "see" those colors in your sentence (like you said "I'm not a fan"), it is debatable and I need to think if I agree to that and to what extent.
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> In the example I tried to illustrate what I consider a productive message - a message that tells us exactly one simple thing we can do in the future to get a good result or avoid a bad one (I find talking with too many abstractions can lead to complex and not well understood message) the "a bad decision" not telling us what we can do in the future or how to avoid the bad decision, it talks about the past
I am enjoying the conversation, but the second paragraph is somewhat off-topic (though everything you said is good and we are in agreement). As for your color and standing out, when i said "I'm not a fan" what i really meant is that its offensive in nature and adds to the increasing hostility of the environment. I didn't bother saying that then, because as you said you clearly see those words differently and I didn't feel we would make and ground going down that road.
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Personally I think true damage needs removed...then balance from there.
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If i didnt know any better...Id say you were definitely a Sith Lord
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If you open up an xbox one(or later) its pretty much a pc with a standard hard drive. So really its a PC with a specialized OS. So the reality is you're over glorifying windows...which makes you a silly person XD
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> [{quoted}](name=RuFiot,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WkJJ9REU,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-25T20:02:51.307+0000)
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> I don't see the point of saying "that was a bad decision" at all, it isn't productive, you can say something in the lines of "next time we need to make sure kaisa alive before starting baron we dont have the dmg" it how to improve in the future and more productive then saying "that was a bad decision" when the nexus explodes and it have 0 added value to the game (not productive).
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> so the graves and the "DAMN YOU" posts aren't personal (when you read them it not talking about you) so the use of the curse words are ok there.
Im just not a fan of the curse words in general, and it really stood out that F-Bombs were on the front page. The examples i gave were just examples of word usage, there is always a better way to communicate something like the example you just gave would be more precise...however you did just create an imaginary scenario and add a bunch of specifics XD
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> [{quoted}](name=RuFiot,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WkJJ9REU,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-25T19:45:45.811+0000)
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> I agree with you on the example you gave, "_f'ing_ bad decision" the _f'ing_ adds color "Im **really** angry at **you**" so that color is kinda personal, so toxic I guess, and yes I agree it will lead to an escalation of the conversation.
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> tbh I think saying "That was a bad decision" and "That was a "F'Ing" bad decision" will give the same result of "stfu you bronze knob! AFK..." (people don't like to be criticized in league)
Often yes, it does yield the same result. But one of those "sometimes" gets a reasonable response, whereas the other almost guarantees a catastrophic meltdown and the imminent replacement of yet another backlit mechanical keyboard.
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i do indeed remember when armor could be penetrated by a crappy IKEA table leg. those were the days.
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So when someone spits in your drink while you arent looking, its your fault? The idea that the people trying to have fun and win the game (even if its in a non traditional way) have to dodge and waste their life, which btw is finite, is absolutely absurd.
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> [{quoted}](name=RuFiot,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WkJJ9REU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-25T18:55:17.147+0000)
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> For me toxicity is when you are attacking someone in a personal way, swearing in a sentences just adds some "color" to it
It's becoming more and more obvious that your view is being adopted by the majority. The increasing use of caustic language like this is just intensifying the bad behavior. It always starts out as "funny" or "added color" and eventually regresses into anger and malice, that isnt a league observation, I feel its a general rule for social interaction. I am speaking of a point of concern for this place. The game is getting more ridiculous and less fun - and the way people speak to each other compounds the issue.
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"That was a bad decision"
has a good chance of being replied with "Yeah i messed up"
"That was a "F'Ing" bad decision"
most often yields something like "stfu you bronze knob! AFK..."
while the second conversation is more fun to read...its not the environment any of us really want to be in and why i dont feel it adds anything positive to conversation.
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i have a duo...but honestly why have flex Q and a solo Q that you can play with your best buddy with? its silly. it should just be solo ONLY or group.
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> [{quoted}](name=Kythers,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0oTA1MYE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-26T07:46:11.836+0000)
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> silver players ruined this game prove me wrong (I wont read it)
Silver really is a silly place, im happy to be just passing through XD... Silver in a nutshell
Bronze + Ego + (Toxicity*Rage/Flame)=Silver
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he sounds like starscreem impersonating megatron....its bad and riot should feel bad
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I dont like the idea of it being "adaptive", HOWEVER, in the same tier sorcery there should be its counterpart for physical burst. This way you have to make a meaningful choice (as is riots goal in changing the runes) and you can customize your build. Its probably best to put it in the same tier next to nullifying orb that way you its either / or and NOT both and as that would be busted and mandatory for every support/tank.
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i guess but they could have given it 20 more seconds, lol, the Q popped in under 30
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> [{quoted}](name=Mordius,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qGfIEzV5,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2018-06-13T05:00:59.403+0000)
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> All he needed was a new kit, not a full fucking makeover
Ill tell you what he didn't need, 30 knockups….
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> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qGfIEzV5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-12T18:27:27.317+0000)
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> looks like riven 2.0
That's the first thing that came to mind.
Look guys he can use one of his abilities 3 times!!!! So its like having 6 buttons!
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I think its adorable that you think there is a difference between silver 3 and silver 2
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define "support" XD
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> retardedly ignorant?
Personal favorite....its an interesting combination to point out. So they are learning impaired and uneducated
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I honestly would rather have balanced games before they tweak the lp gains/losses. There is no reason in low elo that a balanced game cant be found, and people entire tiers above you should never show up.
also winning 8 games in a row is not reason to face the most amazing opponents and be fitted with first time ranked players...just sayin.
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I too have seen this discussion several times already, it isnt happening...but the rapid release of the aggressive comments suggests serious neckbearding (yes im enjoying using that as an action verb, you should try it :P)
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I feel like yall have been sitting there neckbearding all day for THIS moment...{{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
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I have followed instructions senpai
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Would you be willing to allow support shenanigans?{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
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Can we get some information as to the maintenance being done...and when exactly was it scheduled because this is the first ive heard of it
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Well kid, it just does. Better question here is Why it bothers you so much that i dont share your opinion.{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
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The wind effects the trees so if were subscribing to your philosophy there should be a Windborn maokai where he is a translucent wind spirit...while slick looking im sure, again id say its a bit stupid. The association is loose at best.
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I would point out that your bot lane fed in a meta where bot lanes win games...traditionally a fed botlane counters a fed top lane - but im low elo, so you can safely ignore any wisdom i may have shared with you. god bless
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When does this patch go live?
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The moon may effect the tide, but it is not the ocean. I disagree with the sand skin for pyke as well. They are all super cool looking, but they bug me. And unlike popular opinion...im allowed to not like things that you like.
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Personally im ok with the outside runterra themes, but going outside the champion bio inside the same universe bugs me. Thats how i feel.
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well that was uncalled for, and i still think its stupid.
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Reported for playing Teemo...Class action to follow {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
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they do have voice chat in the client now...so that could help?
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bronze is way to easy to get out of. i feel like i should play ad janna top lane from B5 all through silver just to make a point...or atk speed bananas.
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the problem with what your saying is you can buy a how to for dummies book, and copy pasta forum code and have a bug free forum that just needs cascading style sheets, lol. the minimal amount of effort it takes to code a forum is being done for highschool computer classes - there is no excuse to have this thing in "Beta" for a decade.
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Im with the video guy...didnt read the post though :P
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