: How do you do this? Press R and immediately use TP, or reverse order?
> [{quoted}](name=Ionian Vulpix,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pq3kBfOP,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-10-24T02:35:04.955+0000) > > How do you do this? Press R and immediately use TP, or reverse order? You press R and D (or F). Not one then the other, you press both. It should work. I don't know the exact science, I can't ult a dummy in practice mode.
Shazzbot69 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pq3kBfOP,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-10-24T01:58:26.667+0000) > > Yes, that is why they nerfed TP to be 4.5 seconds. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdGHNMULTu8 spicy. Does that mean they are bringing it back?
> [{quoted}](name=Shazzbot69,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pq3kBfOP,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-10-24T02:15:55.526+0000) > > spicy. Does that mean they are bringing it back? It works on the pbe, so maybe.
Shazzbot69 (EUNE)
: What about Fat fish dude TP? Was that ever a thing?
> [{quoted}](name=Shazzbot69,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pq3kBfOP,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-24T01:45:52.461+0000) > > What about Fat fish dude TP? Was that ever a thing? Yes, that is why they nerfed TP to be 4.5 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdGHNMULTu8
: Kalista's ult is 4 seconds. It wouldn't be possible since there would atleast be a frame or two difference from the actual tp. Your support would have to literally be frame perfect to pull it off when you arrive and you'd have to be frame perfect when casting both.
> [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pq3kBfOP,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-24T00:49:50.202+0000) > > Kalista's ult is 4 seconds. > > It wouldn't be possible since there would atleast be a frame or two difference from the actual tp. Your support would have to literally be frame perfect to pull it off when you arrive and you'd have to be frame perfect when casting both. The only thing the support has to do is nothing. I had to always tell my support to not press anything
: ...Was that ever an actual thing? I don't think that was ever an actual thing.
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Dusteon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pq3kBfOP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-23T23:32:23.889+0000) > > ...Was that ever an actual thing? I don't think that was ever an actual thing. I always took tp on Kalista
Ahpe (NA)
: I'm assuming this is on PBE?
> [{quoted}](name=Ahpe,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pq3kBfOP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-23T23:26:28.478+0000) > > I'm assuming this is on PBE? Yes
Rioter Comments
Poske (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=4xepQqYt,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-23T05:19:45.803+0000) > > What about Urf Warwick? > You need 150,000 BE to buy that skin. > > Not to mention Riot randomly throwing things like 5,000 BE icons in the shops. Right now you can send 25,000 BE on icons. You can buy urf warwick with 150 000 be?
> [{quoted}](name=Poske,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=4xepQqYt,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-23T12:21:41.971+0000) > > You can buy urf warwick with 150 000 be? Yeah, not sure when it will be available again, but last year it was in November, for whatever reason, so keep your eyes open for the chance to grab it.
: Is It Right or Wrong ?
It has become increasingly unreliable, but no, it shouldn't give your computer a virus. Riot won't ban you for using them.
: (Blue essence is worthless) Rewards for Veteran Players
What about Urf Warwick? You need 150,000 BE to buy that skin. Not to mention Riot randomly throwing things like 5,000 BE icons in the shops. Right now you can send 25,000 BE on icons.
drash79 (NA)
: There's over 140 champions in league so far, and there's still no turtles?
There was a turtle Darkin.... although his brains were kinda scrambled and his body was consumed by the sands of Shurima..... but hey, plenty of champions have survived worse.
Spöøn (NA)
: Why is Fizz now an amphibian
**Amphibian**: _noun, a cold-blooded vertebrate animal of a class that comprises the frogs, toads, newts, and salamanders. They are distinguished by having an aquatic gill-breathing larval stage followed (typically) by a terrestrial lung-breathing adult stage._ Does Fizz have a spine? Yes. Is he cold blooded? Seems that way. Does he have gills? Yes. Can he breath air? Yes.
Destaice (NA)
: Big OOF
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/n0VslwHgTXE/hqdefault.jpg
Lapis (OCE)
: What do you do as Amumu when someone decides to camp you in your jungle?
Amumu is essentially a support jungler. Asking what he does against invaders is like asking what does Soraka do against Vayne. The answer is run away.
: Changing runes is a struggle.
Yeah, the rune page system is kinda outdated, Riot should give everyone as many rune ages as they want, but it's just something they don't want to deal with. Like, since they cost as much as a champion, if they refund everyone their blue essence for all their pages, they are basically giving out free champions. So yeah, it sucks. No help besides buy pages or get faster.
ShrooM7 (EUW)
: Urgot Cancelling Poppy Ult with dash
It's the way dashes are coded, not a bug, but a design flaw... well more of a quirk.
Morbys (NA)
: Aatrox passive from E
The way the numbers for his heal comes up are weird. It's like he is healed by 10, no matter how much damage he does, but it just increases the sets of 10 health he gets. So even if you can get his heal to heal a solid amount, it will only say he healed like 10-20 health. So like, if he deals enough damage to heal 30 health, he will get healed by 10 health 3 times, so it will only say 10.
Myster10 (EUNE)
: I can't install or update league of legends
Is it a permissions error? Like it asks you for permission to use a file and then says you don't have the permission? Is it a location error? Like it's asking where it can find the uninstall program? Is there a code for the error? Does it say it's in use, even if it's closed? You gotta give us something more than just an error, that could mean one of several things could be happening. We gotta know!
Rioter Comments
: How were the Darkin corrupted?
The Void can corrupt someone by hearing whispers of it{{champion:90}} or having images of it burned into your head, like the Darkin. So, that would make them Void corrupted, just like the Iceborn.
: Why didn't Jax get physically or mentally affected by the literal void opening in Icathia?
Well, he isn't human anymore at this point. His fingers fused together, he has like 7 eyes, and he is faster and stronger than anyone else. Maybe this is because of Void corruption.
: Aatrox questions
1. Yes 2. Yes 3. He finds a new one. 4. It's a guarantee at this point. Fictional prophecies always, and I mean always, come true. Although he will have to force Sivir{{champion:15}} to do it. 5. He's fine, his host body was just killed.
Atgo (EUW)
: My theory is that the poision was meant to transform Cassiopeia in a mindless beast that would kill anyone who came together with Cassiopeia, but something in the poision failed, might it be the millenia that desgated the poision or another reason, and it lead the poision to just halfly transformed her. But thats just my personal theory ~~a game theory~~.
> [{quoted}](name=Atgo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=q5zrdwQ8,comment-id=000200000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-14T18:22:24.568+0000) > > My theory is that the poision was meant to transform Cassiopeia in a mindless beast that would kill anyone who came together with Cassiopeia, but something in the poision failed, might it be the millenia that desgated the poision or another reason, and it lead the poision to just halfly transformed her. > But thats just my personal theory ~~a game theory~~. Yeah, that's what I am saying, but I'm saying that the source of that mind controlling poison is Naganeka, and since she is dead, or imprisoned, she can't exactly force her will upon Cassiopeia.
: Which champion to buy:Aatrox, Bard, Xerath or Zac
Arakadia (NA)
: > If Indiana Jones got shot by a poison arrow in an ancient tomb.... would he transform into a super powered spiderman? No because poison arrows in the Indiana Jones movies are not comparable to Shuriman curses in Runeterra. > Last time I checked curses didn't often end up in super awesome powers and a sense of bliss. What sense of bliss did Cassiopeia get from the curse? In fact we know is that she's been disfigured and_ hates_ her new form. > Besides, humanoid animals were praised as warriors of the gods by Shurimans, why would a trap intended to prevent tomb raiding turn the tomb raider into a highly revered creature in Shuriman culture? Because Riot's design team did not have the experience or knowledge they have now when they made Cass. Additionally you have no reason to believe Cass's form would be highly revered. We know animals had symbolic importance for certain Shuriman ideas and concepts, its quite plausible Cass's form represents something terrible or bad. > The Darkin named Naganeka has poison that controlled her servants. Wouldn't it make sense that it was her poison that transformed Cassiopeia, turning her into a servant of Naganeka? This is possible however there is no evidence that supports this except "snake person 1 and snake person 2 are both from Shurima". None of Cass's actions support the idea that she is mind controlled or trying to find Nageneka. So while I have to agree there is some confusion about Cass's curse (why did it give her magic?) it is not confirmed that she has any connection to Nageneka. In fact of the minute amount of cannon lore we have for her on the universe site, it says [she continues to serve Noxus's interests as she always has. ](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/cassiopeia/)
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=q5zrdwQ8,comment-id=0002000000000001,timestamp=2018-10-14T02:51:36.746+0000) > > What sense of bliss did Cassiopeia get from the curse? In fact we know is that she's been disfigured and_ hates_ her new form. _Cassiopeia flushed with pride as she considered her handiwork. Her life as a noble was over, yes, but never had she felt such boundless power coursing through her veins. She slithered back onto the rooftops, her mind awhirl with ideas._ She loves the way she looks and the power she wields. > Because Riot's design team did not have the experience or knowledge they have now when they made Cass. Additionally you have no reason to believe Cass's form would be highly revered. We know animals had symbolic importance for certain Shuriman ideas and concepts, its quite plausible Cass's form represents something terrible or bad. No, the snake Darkin was revered in Shurima, and she amassed a cult when Shurima fell. > This is possible however there is no evidence that supports this except "snake person 1 and snake person 2 are both from Shurima". None of Cass's actions support the idea that she is mind controlled or trying to find Nageneka. Cass's story is not finished. Since Cass returned to Noxus, she killed one person. Who's to say Cass won't lose herself to her power, allowing Naganeka to take over? > So while I have to agree there is some confusion about Cass's curse (why did it give her magic?) it is not confirmed that she has any connection to Nageneka. In fact of the minute amount of cannon lore we have for her on the universe site, it says [she continues to serve Noxus's interests as she always has. > ](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/cassiopeia/) Well, they both have some striking similarities, outside of the fact they are snakes. Like how they both have some interesting quirks with their voices. Cassiopeia's scream can turn people to stone, and Naganeka refused to speak for thousands of years. Could it be that Naganeka's scream could also turn people to stone?
Zatsukino (EUW)
: OR Naganeka feeling she was going to perish soon, liquified herself into poison to manage to survive in another host body, which appears to be {{champion:69}} after she opened the tombs, giving her all her powers. I mean, seriously I want Naganeka as a champion now after seeing her description and what she is capable of, but she's too similar to Cassiopeia, at least they have to share something in common, or be the same person ? I feel Riot should rework completely Cassiopeia... She's visually, disappointing.
Don't worry Cass could still get a legendary skin or a rework that makes her more Naganeka.
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JLYJyc9v,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-10-13T17:18:34.389+0000) > > everything else about old Aatrox was kinda bad. -Reverse cone AoE from Blades of Torment, letting it both be consistent in melee and an interesting skillshot at range -The base decision set in Blood Thirst / Blood Price, even if the execution was usually "if HP >50-70% use Blood Price when fighting champions" -Temporarily having 325 melee auto attack range, gives a lot of good feel to the player -Hellbent's trigger condition-- it actually creates interactivity and makes you make decisions due to draining to 0 when leaving combat after it filled. -Revive gated by not just a cooldown, giving the enemy a way to deny your resuscitation These are all pretty fun / interesting
> [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JLYJyc9v,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2018-10-14T00:43:39.174+0000) > > -Reverse cone AoE from Blades of Torment, letting it both be consistent in melee and an interesting skillshot at range But it wasn't satisfying to use. It didn't deal alot of damage, and the slow wasn't all that great > -The base decision set in Blood Thirst / Blood Price, even if the execution was usually "if HP >50-70% use Blood Price when fighting champions" And most players just left it on heal to become literally unkillable in some match ups. > -Temporarily having 325 melee auto attack range, gives a lot of good feel to the player Unless they just run away. I mean, sure the range is great, but wouldn't being able to keep up with mobile champions be even better? > -Hellbent's trigger condition-- it actually creates interactivity and makes you make decisions due to draining to 0 when leaving combat after it filled. Unless Aatrox is laning against a ranged champion and they just deny him from activating it all game. > -Revive gated by not just a cooldown, giving the enemy a way to deny your resuscitation But it still gave Aatroxs that are winning in lane a way to dive towers for free before level 6, and struggling Aatroxs were more often than not just wasting it as they sit there 3 seconds waiting to die. > These are all pretty fun / interesting That's just like your opinion man.
Arakadia (NA)
: Cassiopeia wasn't corrupted by Darkin poison. It was a tomb raider curse.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=q5zrdwQ8,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-10-14T00:45:53.790+0000) > > Cassiopeia wasn't corrupted by Darkin poison. It was a tomb raider curse. If Indiana Jones got shot by a poison arrow in an ancient tomb.... would he transform into a super powered spiderman? Last time I checked curses didn't often end up in super awesome powers and a sense of bliss. Besides, humanoid animals were praised as warriors of the gods by Shurimans, why would a trap intended to prevent tomb raiding turn the tomb raider into a highly revered creature in Shuriman culture? The Darkin named Naganeka has poison that controlled her servants. Wouldn't it make sense that it was her poison that transformed Cassiopeia, turning her into a servant of Naganeka?
: Just fyi- Morgana is only getting a VU. They tried some changes in gameplay but didn't like anything so they scrapped it and just getting a VU while Kayle is getting a VGU.
> [{quoted}](name=SnugglePuggle94,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XHGEQktB,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-13T17:38:00.975+0000) > > Just fyi- Morgana is only getting a VU. They tried some changes in gameplay but didn't like anything so they scrapped it and just getting a VU while Kayle is getting a VGU. Morgana will get tweaks to her kit, just like Ezreal.
: Kayle & Morgana Lore : An All Female Angel Society
Riot making a magic race of women from what is basically Heaven is a bit too on the nose for Riot. Riot already has a race of angelic warriors and their fallen counterparts. No need to introduce another.
: But did a Rioter involved in champions' bios and lore said that it looked Targonian?
> [{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XHGEQktB,comment-id=00010000000100000001,timestamp=2018-10-13T17:33:26.204+0000) > > But did a Rioter involved in champions' bios and lore said that it looked Targonian? Yeah, the sword is from Targon, just like Kayn's scythe, just like Sivir's crossblade, Varus's bow, etc. All of the best weapons come from Targon, that does not mean the champions are Targonian.
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XHGEQktB,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2018-10-12T23:57:48.781+0000) > > Kayn's scythe looks _ "pretty Targonian" _ when he becomes Shadow Assassin Kayn. **nudge nudge wink wink** It looks like it came from The *Shadow* Isles more than anything else.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XHGEQktB,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-13T17:25:37.380+0000) > > It looks like it came from The *Shadow* Isles more than anything else. So does Diana's crescent blade. Remember Targon makes sun and moon related weapons. Like Sivir's moon summoning crossblade.
: Revert Aatrox, (hear me out)
Why not make a new champion that has what people liked about old Aatrox, while stripping away the problematic elements? Which was mostly the satisfying slam of Dark Flight, everything else about old Aatrox was kinda bad.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Reav3 said "I mean, champion roadmap picture was pretty targonian anyway. :)" as a reply to a player asking if Kayle and Morgana are going to be aspects.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XHGEQktB,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-10-12T13:41:30.578+0000) > > Reav3 said "I mean, champion roadmap picture was pretty targonian anyway. :)" as a reply to a player asking if Kayle and Morgana are going to be aspects. Kayn's scythe looks _ "pretty Targonian" _ when he becomes Shadow Assassin Kayn. **nudge nudge wink wink**
: Theories about why Kayle and Morgana are linked with Demacia
Okay, here's an idea. They are both Demacian born, and they are chosen by church of Demacia, the same one Lucian and Lux work for, to take part in a ritual, involving a Darkin weapon. So, they use light magic and force the corruption from the weapon into Morgana, transforming her into a dark corrupted version of the Ascended that was sealed in the weapon. Meanwhile Kayle takes the sword and, like with Kayn, Ascends and gains attributed powers of the, now, purified Ascended sealed within the sword.
: Elise and Cassiopeia Are To Similar
Well they are both up for full on relaunches. Like, they could make Cassiopeia more involved with the Darkin poison that corrupted her, so she is more struggling to stay in control, while Elise is addicted to her corruption. And it's not a problem that they share an archetype, plenty of champions share archetypes. Poppy, Galio, and Garen are all the dim witted but kind brute archetype, and they are all also from Demacia.
: Aurelion Sol's Brother is the New Champion
While yes, Demacia has had it's fair share of run ins with dragons, I doubt they have a celestial level dragon in human form locked up beneath Demacia. Since Demacia is known to be hostile to people with natural magic abilities, wouldn't it make more sense that the chained up person is just someone born with powerful magic abilities? I mean Lux was told to leave, get locked up, or serve Demacia. I'm imagining that the champion is someone who refused to fight, and was instead locked up, but their magic just kept building and building, like when Lux tried to hide her power. So, like a corrupted mirror image of Lux.
: How to see 3D models since LolKing is shuting down?
I would have used LoLKing more but Holy Hell was their website so bloated and sluggish with ads.
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Vz42GxvA,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-29T15:23:06.294+0000) > > I mean it's possible that he is a god. Like, it's not not true. Yeah, just like how it's possible Demacia is a god. And Noxus is a god. And Ionia is a god. I mean, it's not NOT true, right? My point is, you can't take something that isn't confirmed and then act like it's confirmed. The whole "Targon being a god" thing shouldn't have been in the post. > Someone... in his cult.... ? Cult that doesn't exist anymore. > > Because he likes his cult, Where is it stated he liked it? > and like with any predatory beast, killing and eating everything is a good way to get yourself starved to death. And that's what Aatrox wants, if you hadn't been paying attention. > > There can't exactly be new hosts if everyone is dead. So he has to make a cult, so they will breed, so Aatrox can have as many hosts as he could ever want. It's called farming, Once everyone is dead, Aatrox will have no need for new hosts genius. > and he made fun of Rhaast for choosing the Targonian Scythe. How does this correlate to what we were talking about? > > I'm not seeing anyone else question Aatrox on this board. "Aatrox and the other Ascended were literally sometimes called 'god-warriors' before they went mad. **He's not deified anymore,** obviously, but he was once revered as a sacred protector of Shurima, thus he is "a god reduced to a prisoner."" "BUT what your question depicts is FROM WHAT TIME they are. **Aatrox maybe isn't worshipped now,** but he certainly was at one point in the past, having been created by and fought for the heavens of targon if I correctly understood the lore. So the question isn't whether or not they are true, but to what frame of time they apply to." **"Every champion is an unreliable narrator. None of them are unbiased or omniscient.** Some quotes in-game are hypothetical (item and champion special interactions, death quotes, etc.) in that they haven't happened, so they're not canon events or meetings in-universe. Aatrox was an Ascended, confirmed from several sources to be called god-warriors. It's believable that Aatrox was worshiped as a "god" in the same way that any high-tier Ascended would have been. **After becoming a darkin, he was probably feared and hated as a destructive, cruel being more than worshiped (a relationship depicted in Twilight of the Gods). What Aatrox himself says in-game is almost certainly the rose-tinted nostalgia of an eons-old, fractured mind that basks in the vague memory of its former glory."** These are all responses taking from this post of yours: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/qHLj4dAt-riot-are-champion-quotes-canon And they all agree that Aatrox perhaps had a cult in the past, but it is no longer the case. So yes, there clearly are other people questioning the truth in Aatrox's words. > A few people asked for sources and were satisfied with his lore calling it out and him directly saying he is worshiped. What? Who are these "few people?" And how were they satisfied with "his lore calling it out and him directly saying he is worshipped"? > > Groom is the word typically used when dealing with predatory behavior, Says who? You? > like cults do. Seriously, watch a cult documentary, any will do. I'm going to bet the last vestiges of my sanity, that no matter which cult documentary I pick, none of them will have the word "groom" in it. > > Well good for you, you're wrong This is a statement of fact - we have talked about this before. I fail to see how I am wrong in this case.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Vz42GxvA,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002c,timestamp=2018-10-03T16:38:03.874+0000) > > Of course you're going to keep saying he's worshipped and training hosts when you don't even bother reading what I said. And what did you say exactly? > "Confirmed"? > > When has it ever been confirmed that this is the same as Ascending? https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/ineA9uOv-the-darkin-lores-are-incredible-i-just-have-one-question?show=nested&comment=000a > Noxians are known to use animals, primarily wolves, for symbols as well. And if Darius Ascended he would be a wolf. If Draven Ascended he would remain Draven, just more Draven. > How is herself but with wings a symbol? > > And Kayle's "ascension" isn't the same thing as "Ascension" under the Sun Disk, so everything you said above doesn't even apply to her. Because the symbol of Demacia is sword with wings, and I don't think it would make sense for Kayle to literally turn into a sword, holding a sword. We don't know it's not the same. > A Darkin, "fallen", is a title, not a race. > > If you trap Nasus in his weapon, he is still an Ascended. So if Valeeva managed to be cured of her corruption and return to her Ascended title, the sword she is sealed in would stop being a Darkin weapon, correct? > So... The entire thing about Cebotaru being imprisoned in the Blessed Isles is entirely based on you finding it "cool"? > > And not because it makes any sense? > > Just because it's "cool"? Not entirely, his name uses the Latin root word for gloom, he is a multi limbed demon wolf, and his name has "taru" much like the Minotaur So, much like Cerberus, and the Minotaur, he is most likely sealed in something far greater than just his weapon. Also to tie into Egyptian symbology, the "labyrinth" Cebotaru could be sealed in could be used to protect the king, the Ruined King. Since labyrinths in tombs were used to protect dead pharaohs from tomb raiders. If you look at the names of the champions it tells you a lot of what their character is. Aatrox takes the Latin root word "atrox," so like atrocity, and "ater" meaning dark. So a dark atrocity, and since he is the warmongering Darkin who wants to kill everything, I think the name fits. > It's not just something that people say that Riot has said. > > We have strict evidence that Riot has said this. Where? The only thing I have seen is Riot saying of course they will borrow from religious iconography, but they don't plan on straight up putting religious figures in their game. > But I thought the "Jesus character", according to you, was Sivir? > > Shouldn't she be the one running around with an iron rod and flaming sword, then? > > But she isn't, she's running around with The Chalicar. > > So, what gives? She's not literally Jesus. How many times to I have to say it, none of the Darkin are riding horses, the Darkin story is not 1:1 with the horsemen of the apocalypse, they are simply borrowing images from the mythos, just like everything else in LoL. There are 5 weapons in the mythos; a sword, a bow, a scythe, a second sword that is on fire, and the rod of iron. Then we got 3 symbols that aren't weapons; a scale, a crown/s, and Jesus. obviously Riot can do some mixing and matching with these symbols, like combining the flaming sword with the scale, or turning Jesus's cross into an actual weapon. If we look at the prophecy of the crossblade and compare it to some trope, being that prophecies are always 100% right, especially if there is a choice. So, because of that, Sivir is destined to bring about great destruction **AND **unity, and since I don't think Sivir would consciously want to destroy everything, I think it's pretty clear Ta'anari is going to be a major factor in causing the great destruction. > Except Darkin have only been shown to be able to consume humans. > > You'd think someone like Aatrox would want to consume every living thing he comes across, right? > > Yet he still only consumes humans. Aatrox wants to kill everything, yes, but he can't do it alone. He's not that stupid. Aatrox knows that no matter how much flesh he consumes, no matter how strong he can make his body, Targon is stronger. Also, he is after more than just muscle alone, he wants battle experience. He wants knowledge. > This just isn't true to Morgana's previously established character of being able to summon entirely magical chains out of nowhere. > > This did not answer my question about the chain whip being a weapon of a Horseman either. > > A chain whip isn't even mentioned in the mythos to begin with. Aatrox's sword can magically grow longer and bend, Varus can magically pull arrows out of thin air, is it not possible that a magical set of chains could summon more links in the chain? The chains of the scale, that is the chain whip. > Even if Naganeka is supposed to be the source of Cassiopeia's power, she wouldn't be able to if she was consumed by Valeeva, as you've previously stated. > > Besides, we've already seen a massive golden dinner plate in the sky turn people into giant animal god warriors. > > A trap turning someone into a powerful snake person isn't that weird. Naganeka could have been both. Her physical body could have been consumed by Valeeva, and her essence could have just been stored in whatever amount of magic poison she had previously split. So, you think that a poisonous trap that was used to protect Azir's temple would... give the tomb raider awesome and terrible powers? That's not how that kinda thing usually happens. > So is Aatrox supposed to be alive along with his body, dead, but his body is alive, or undead? > > You need to make yourself clear, you always speak so cryptically. This is a complicated and loaded question. He's more or less a spirit that can possess people. So he is a soul (dead) that needs a living host. > How do you know Darkin are able to be undead, as well as manifest without a body? > > If this was the case, why does Varus even bother with Kai and Valmar's crap? Why not just take on the spirit form we see him as in the music video? Well his pit wasn't filled with the Black Mist, now was it? The Black Mist can cause all sorts of crazy crap to happen. > Aatrox survived, physically and mentally, what can be considered a living hell inside of his sword for thousands of years, yet the Mist is somehow even worse? > > I find that hard to believe. Well, even in a prison and in Hell you are still you, right? The Mist is worse because "you" cease to be. > And only one of them was wielded by a Horseman. > > Therefore, only one of them can be a part of that "allegory" of yours. Okay, we are clearly on two different wave lengths here, what allegory are you talking about? I'm saying the Darkin are following the story of Revelation Chapter 6. It clearly says two of the five riders have swords. Not sure what you're talking about. > First off, how would that chain whip even have any magical properties left in it, if Naganeka was never imprisoned within it? The magic doesn't just come from the Darkin, the weapons were magic to begin with. The crossblade could shoot moon magic before Ta'anari was sealed in it. > Second off, what reason could Valeeva possibly have for taking the weapon, especially considering the above? ...Because it's a magical weapon? That's like saying "why did they take the gun, they already had a knife." > The church is still Demacians. > > They wouldn't pick up an evil sword that corrupts people. They would destroy it. And how, per se, would they go about destroying the evil weapon? Would they, I don't know, use their purifying light magic? > It still makes jack shit sense that they would continously try to wield a sword that corrupts them every time they would try to do so. ...Cause it's really powerful. Don't you'd think that someone could get drunk on the powers of an Ascended god warrior? Like, if you had a ring that made you feel literally indestructible and all powerful, wouldn't not wearing the ring make how you normally feel insignificant and weak? You know, like a drug. > Do you not find it odd that Reav3 would just suddenly talk about being an Aspect can be considered being an Ascended in a thread that's centered around Kayle? > > You, that claims to be so great at seeing narrative clues, can't fathom what Reav3 was trying to get at here? > > He was literally replying to someone that said "I'm actually pretty surprised by this given how aatrox interacts with them both" when he said this, and to someone else that said "So they're gonna be targon related?" is when he said the teaser image looks pretty Targonian. > > You're still not convinced they're going to be from Targon? She's not Shuriman Ascended and not Darkin, I am not saying Kayle is either of those. She did not go through the Ascension ritual, and she isn't, or wielding, a Darkin. And of course the sword looks Targonian, all of the Darkin's weapons are Targonian. >You were only a Darkin if you were a slave master during that time period. No, you can still make new Darkin. Riot has said everything you need to create a Darkin still exists, and there could be brand new Darkin. The word existed long before the Darkin War, I don't see how Darkin could only be limited to a small time frame.
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: Please revert Aatrox and just make a new champion
The problem was the art team behind the original Aatrox wasn't entirely synced up with the lore team. So he ended up being something that does not mesh well with where Darkin ended up. Riot did make a terrible mistake, and they admitted it, but the mistake was releasing the original Aatrox. Original Aatrox had quite possible the worst gameplay out of any champion in the history of LoL. His only gameplay decision was to attack, either kill them before they can kill you or attack enough to sustain any damage they can do to you. And if you can't kill them or their damage can outmatch your sustain, then you just lose, and no amount of skill will change that.
: An Idea for a Weird/Unique Champion
Hey, you know how in Varus's music video he is actually 2 people fused together? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzNcSvKCOyA And since the next Darkin is going to be the Darkin Scales, there could be a light champion and a dark champion that could totally fuse into the Darkin. Now if only there was a [pair of champions](http://orig08.deviantart.net/f2d1/f/2011/364/e/8/league_of_legends_by_seeminglymeaningless-d4kp5fz.png) who could easily represent the duality of light and dark to have this interaction.
: me getting perma banned for saying "kys" once and didn't even mean "kill your self"
saltran (EUW)
: The Gameplay Boards are spreading, run
> [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=34dZ7Xot,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-10-07T21:36:27.705+0000) > > The Gameplay Boards are spreading, run https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tjiyy5fIfA
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=34dZ7Xot,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-07T20:42:37.691+0000) > > She's got a 49% win rate. > The only reason you're complaining is because she is a popular. Win rate alone does not mean a champion is good or bad like in diamond+ she has 50% win rate, 42% playrate and a 31% ban rate her play and ban rate bothing being the highest out of all the adcs she has a bad early game but its not the worst early game out of all the adc and she has by far the best late game out of all the adcs its also hard to build vs her since she can use ad and ap like she is the best adc in the game period and to say she's bad since her winrate is low just shows you can not think on your own.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=34dZ7Xot,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-07T21:26:47.166+0000) > > Win rate alone does not mean a champion is good or bad like in diamond+ she has 50% win rate, 42% playrate and a 31% ban rate her play and ban rate bothing being the highest out of all the adcs she has a bad early game but its not the worst early game out of all the adc and she has by far the best late game out of all the adcs its also hard to build vs her since she can use ad and ap like she is the best adc in the game period and to say she's bad since her winrate is low just shows you can not think on your own. Of course win rates alone doesn't give you the full picture. Just look at Yi, his win rate is crap, even though he is one of the most over powered champions against most match ups. It's just certain counter picks counter him so hard that he becomes dead weight. Kai'Sa is in a similar situation. She can easily overpower most match ups, but against certain champions, she becomes dead weight. But what sets her apart from Yi is that you can pick a marksmen or a support that counters her and reduce her odds of winning.
Kenwai (EUNE)
: Thanks for adding Kaisa <3
She's got a 49% win rate. The only reason you're complaining is because she is a popular.
: Oh yeah that makes more sense now. Sorry if I misunderstood this.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=PeIHU2nl,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-07T20:17:25.571+0000) > > Oh yeah that makes more sense now. Sorry if I misunderstood this. S'all good my dude. I'm just digging through the lore and seeing which guy would make a cool champion. That's why the lore has so many names and stuff, because they are all in the lore. Sulpae was one of the 3 queens of Valoran who hunted Darkin. She had a spear. The vault of Acana in the Blessed Isles is where Morde's head and dangerous magical artifacts were kept. Even Cebotaru was an actual four armed wolf Darkin.
Reksee (NA)
: I'm getting a heavy {{champion:429}} vibe from this guy's ult. Also Cebotaru doesn't feel like a darkin name. It might be just because of the double aa thing or maybe it's something else. Otherwise I think it's pretty cool.
> [{quoted}](name=Reksee,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=PeIHU2nl,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-07T19:38:53.178+0000) > > I&#x27;m getting a heavy {{champion:429}} vibe from this guy&#x27;s ult. Also Cebotaru doesn&#x27;t feel like a darkin name. It might be just because of the double aa thing or maybe it&#x27;s something else. Otherwise I think it&#x27;s pretty cool. Yeah, I was going for the similarities. They are both dead and spear wielders. I basically made a tank version of her ult. Cebotaru is already a Darkin. The Darkin already have names. Cebotaru a 4 armed wolf Darkin. Valeeva a bird? Darkin, and Varus's adopted sister. Naganeka a snake Darkin who's poison transformed Cassiopeia. And Ta'anari a panther Darkin who was sealed in Sivir's crossblade. Yup, it looks like these are the remaining Darkin. Valeeva and Ta'anari being the last of the 5 "living" Darkin, Cebotaru a zombie Darkin and Naganeka possessing Cassiopeia. I say Cebotaru is the zombie Darkin because his name is like Cerberus and Minotaur combined. Since Cerberus guards the gates of Hades and all, it'd make sense he is the dead one.
: I really love the concept, but if he would be the 4th Darkin there would need to be much more of an emphasis on a supposed weapon. As each Darkin is emphasised by that... {{champion:110}} Varus = Bow {{champion:266}} Aatrox = Sword https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fq1Fd0WK.png%3Fnoredirect&key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&width=150 Rhaast = Scythe UPDATE: Now that I re-read the whole post again, would he use Spears when he basic attacks? With this concept, it seems there's a lot of Bones theme going on as a point of interest. So maybe giving him a weapon of some sort that is made of Bones could be fitting?
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=PeIHU2nl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-07T18:37:31.923+0000) > > I really love the concept, but if he would be the 4th Darkin there would need to be much more of an emphasis on a supposed weapon. As each Darkin is emphasised by that... > > {{champion:110}} Varus = Bow > {{champion:266}} Aatrox = Sword > https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fq1Fd0WK.png%3Fnoredirect&amp;key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&amp;width=150 Rhaast = Scythe > > UPDATE: Now that I re-read the whole post again, would he use Spears when he basic attacks? > > With this concept, it seems there&#x27;s a lot of Bones theme going on as a point of interest. So maybe giving him a weapon of some sort that is made of Bones could be fitting? He wouldn't actually be part of the 5 "living" Darkin team... He's dead, so he would be like the "6th" Darkin. He could smack people with bones, but I think the Darkin spear would stay in him. That way he can still bear hug people with his Q and impale them on the spear.
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