: How many games can you intentionally ruin before being banned?
I end most of my games around 0-4 kills and 10-15 deaths. Of course in trying new builds and champions it can often get much worse and lead to loss streaks.
: Female domination in Riot?? 😆
So there are currently 52 female champions There are currently 92 male champions And there is one Kindred. https://i.ibb.co/SrqXLCj/unnamed.png As you can see by this graph, it's going to take more than the next year to make up the gap between male and female champions. If Riot continues the pattern of 4-5 new champions a year, and if Riot only makes female champions, it would take about 8-10 years for there to be an equal amount of male and female champions.
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Arakadia (NA)
: Hey Ssmotzer. Not entirely sure what your goal for this rework was, aside from giving him a bit more counterplay and room for enemies on his abilities, which you probably overshot. Anyways, I hope some of this feedback is useful. I don't agree with how strongly you are willing to change a champion's identity but I do respect your perseverance with posting concepts. So I'm going to mostly ignore how i feel on if this fits Veigar, and mostly on how it works as a kit. > Passive - Baleful Strike: Veigar's basic attacks charge up Vaigar's staff, but do not launch projectiles or deal damage. The fourth basic attack will cause Veigar to launch a slow, but powerful projectile towards his attack target, dealing bonus magic damage and applying 4 on hit effects at once to all enemies in it's path. Okay I think this passive honestly breaks him and not in a way that makes him too strong. This passive suggests he build attack speed, but his other abilities suggest he is a mage. If he is supposed to be basic attack oriented, you need to commit the rest of him to that further, otherwise take out the incentive for him to build attack speed. Anyways this passive most likely could never work in its current iteration. Unless you give him a Karthus Q or Cassiopeia E style ability to effectively cs with, this would destroy his ability to farm and make him super vulnerable to harassment early on. You can't take away such a basic function of champions without giving him a tool to replace basic attacks. > Q - Phenomenal Evil Power - Passive: Whenever Veigar kills an enemy, he collects their soul and holds it in his gauntlet, increasing his ap. The size of the energy ball in his hand is based on his ap. There is no maximum size. > Primordial Burst - Active: Veigar becomes Disarmed, Silenced, and Slowed as he begins to spin his staff in the air, causing the ball of energy he has collected to begin to spin around him, slowly expanding outwards from him as he spins his staff. The ball will continue to spin around Veigar for 6 seconds. The ball will deal magic damage to all enemies it touches, dealing reduced damage for striking the same unit multiple times. Recasting this ability will return the ball to Veigar's gauntlet. I think I might like this, as a concept, but the wording is pretty confusing. Anyways, I don't like that Veigar has a spell which prevents him from doing anything but slowly walking for 6 seconds. If his Q was actually strong enough to warrant ignoring the rest of his kit for 6 seconds, then the rest of his kit must be pretty shitty in comparison. Additionally, this ability feels like "become Aurelion Sol for 6 seconds" more than its own ability, which isn't really valuable. > W - Dark Matter - First Cast: Veigar calls a mass of dark matter to fall from the sky which lands after a 2 second delay to the target location, dealing magic damage to all enemies hit. > Star Rend - Second Cast: While the dark matter is falling, this ability can be recast 1/2/3/4/5 times, based on level, dealing a small amount of magic damage to all enemy units within Veigar's Event Horizon. For each enemy champion damaged by Star Rend, Event Horizon's cooldown is refreshed by .5 seconds. Actually quite interesting, but there's two issues. First is that literally 0 people will want to mash their W key 6 times just so they can make sure they get the most out of the ability. Evelynn's button mash works because she doesn't have a 2 second timer on hers, there is a delay between each press, and she only does it 4 times total. The second issue is that this ability will be very hard to land now that you've taken away Veigar's stun on his E. > E - Event Horizon: Veigar forms a cage around the target location which materializes after a 0.5 second delay and lasts for 3 seconds. Enemies that touch the side of the cage will be blinked to the inside of the opposite side of the cage. Allies who touch the cage will blink to the outside of the opposite side of the cage. Each unit can only be blinked by Event Horizon once. I don't understand this change. Perhaps you were inspired by the proto E he had in development, but this ability is useless on enemies and a support ability for allies. Literally all an enemy has to do is walk to the opposite side of the cage they want to go, and then they will blink to the side they wanted to be at, and can continue to walk out of the cage towards their tower or whatever. So it might slow them down for a brief moment if they aren't paying attention, but this ability would quickly become useless as the community learns it can teleport them in the direction they want to go. The ally effect is neat but its a support ability, which doesn't make sense for Veigar. He shouldn't have such a strong ability for mass team mobility. > R - Chaos Reign: After a brief delay a meteor of pure chaos will fall on Veigar, granting him invulnerability but rooting him, while dealing true damage to all enemies it hits. For 6 seconds a large image of Veigar will hover over the meteor. Primordial Burst will be instantly cast and not interrupt Veigar's other abilities. Veigar's Baleful Strikes will be instantly recharged after every attack, and his abilities will have reduced cooldowns and added bonus effects. These effects are almost always beneficial... usually. The meteor can be attacked and destroyed, ending this effect early and briefly stunning a now vulnerable Veigar. I'm not a huge fan of Veigar's current ultimate, but I can't say this is a good replacement. Chaos Reign just seems so contradictory. First, in his strongest moment of power, he can't move. He relies on you staying within reach. But also, your asking for a squishy mage to jump into the middle of a team fight. Additionally, Veigar basically has a huge shield with a huge hitbox. Does this mean allies can just hide inside the meteor's hitbox, making it hard/impossible to kill them and impossible to hit with projectile skill shots? Or does the meteor act as terrain? Because that has a plethora of problems as well. The random effects don't sound good either, RNG has to be done carefully and in moderation. The fact some of these random effects are negative is worse. At its core though, I'm not sure chaos is a fitting theme for Veigar. As of now, hes a comical Yordle sorcerer with some kind of astral magic. Your new E and R for Veigar suggest he uses chaos magic and likes to mess with reality to confuse and distort his foes. But that doesn't fit Veigar's lore or the other half of your updated kit. While your E and R support a chaos mage, your Q supports a necromancer, and your W pushes his current astral magic into an almost celestial kind. This disconnect, between what kind of mage he is, is definitely something I would try to fix because it hurts the overall value of the design. Anyways, hope this helps. You got some interesting ideas and mostly I would look at the general cohesion of your design (is he a mage or a basicattack champ? does he collect souls or rend the stars?) and think about how realistic the effects you give him are (is a caster mage really going to build on hit/attack speed for his passive? do people really want to destroy their W key as they smash it over and over?).
Well I wanted to give his kit things that would reflect his new lore. Him being incompetent and often failing so hard at being evil he often ends up helping the very people he was trying to kill. > it was difficult to tell whether these acts were malicious or actually reasonably helpful So I made his passive and Q clumsy on purpose. Although the passive does share some similarities to Karma in some respects, as her passive refreshes the cooldown on her ult with every auto attack. And just like with Karma, people chose to build her with ap, so her abilities deal damage instead of being spammed. And what's wrong with giving him a more powerful version of Sol's passive? Plenty of champions have the same ability but just at different power levels. Although I don't see a problem with Veigar building a Nashor's Tooth. Now that his E can be used for mobility, much like with Lissandra's E, he isn't vulnerable without his raw damage. And just like Lissandra, he would use his E to blink into the fight and cast his ultimate. His ult would be more like terrain, so allies couldn't hide in it. Plenty of champions can build attack speed while their kit has hardly anything to do with attack speed. There's nothing wrong with giving champion's flexibility in their builds. I would have swapped the his W and Q, but people seem to complain when you suggest moving abilities around. His W would probably be more for farming than anything else. It's real damage comes from spamming the ability during his E. It could probably clear a whole wave of minions. Not to mention it can refund E's cooldown, meaning you can spam his cages, giving him a little more control of the battlefield and mobility. His E had to be powered down to increase it's flexibility. Sure Veigar can't lock someone down as effectively, but now he is pretty mobile. I think the trade off is worth it. Like, imagine Veigar casts E on the dragon wall and his whole team just walks through. Or someone flashes over a wall and Veigar drop his E as they flash, blinking them right back to Veigar. I think you're underestimating the power of forcing people to blink. I wouldn't say any of Veigar's "bonus" effects are negative. Just weird. Like, he could summon hostile wolves in one of his Es. Or maybe his allies who walk through his E becomes giant, or his W lights bushes on fire, revealing everyone in them to both teams. Or everyone becomes a chicken. Randomness isn't bad, just something that has to be monitored, and if it doesn't work out they can always remove it.
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Jaspers (EUW)
: Hold on... our MPs are actually doing something? :-P "Should be..." not the case yet, there was an inquiry earlier in the year where some idiot decided it wasn't gambling. Presume a fair few people sent the NBA2K20 trailer to them.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GEhULejj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-12T15:26:59.343+0000) > > Hold on... our MPs are actually doing something? :-P > > "Should be..." not the case yet, there was an inquiry earlier in the year where some idiot decided it wasn't gambling. Presume a fair few people sent the NBA2K20 trailer to them. No, the investigation was launched before the NBA trailer dropped. They said that it's pay out is in digital goods and that digital goods still have a monetary value even if they can't be paid out. Because of that it now falls into the regulation on UK's gambling commission, and are not suitable to being sold to children.
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vyoda (NA)
: Support Mains of the Boards: Why do you supp? ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
I like to support because it's the only role where your abilities and utility matter more than your damage or tankiness. When games offers you a choice between a sword with +99 damage, a +99 shield, or a stick that has a chance to turn people into a frog, you can bet your ass I am picking the frog stick.
: The only thing you can really afford to change for a Shaco rework is his E. Everything else has to be roughly the same or you will never hear the end of it from Shaco mains.
> [{quoted}](name=BlackKnightJack,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=yIu5v3n3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-04T17:48:24.370+0000) > > The only thing you can really afford to change for a Shaco rework is his E. Everything else has to be roughly the same or you will never hear the end of it from Shaco mains. That explains how I got 2 down votes in 10 minutes
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: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GjP7AYJV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-04T13:37:36.263+0000) > > Oh Dark Star Cho is already in the craft system, but that still doesn't mean Riot can't change the skins from needing Gems to needing Honor points. > > Make things a little more cohesive with the crafting system. It takes, what, a year of regular and positive play to earn an honor point. That seems like a fair trade for the skins in question. There doesn't really need to be cohesion with the crafting skins vs the honor skins. If you get too limited by what can be in either, you reduce the opportunity that there could be super kickass skins that don't fit into the themes added to either option. I don't want to miss out on a killer skin that could potentially be added to Honor just because it's not medieval/horror. The hodge-podge of skins in both systems are fine as they are. There's a lot of opportunity, and that's fine by me.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GjP7AYJV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-04T14:46:57.747+0000) > > There doesn't really need to be cohesion with the crafting skins vs the honor skins. If you get too limited by what can be in either, you reduce the opportunity that there could be super kickass skins that don't fit into the themes added to either option. I don't want to miss out on a killer skin that could potentially be added to Honor just because it's not medieval/horror. > The hodge-podge of skins in both systems are fine as they are. There's a lot of opportunity, and that's fine by me. But people have honor points to spend and no skins to spend them on. Meanwhile it costs like, what, $400 on average to get a single Hextech skin. What's more important? Riot making people spend hundreds of dollars or decades of earning chests to unlock these skin, or Riot rewarding good behavior and loyalty of it's dedicated player base?
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GjP7AYJV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-04T13:37:36.263+0000) > > Oh Dark Star Cho is already in the craft system, but that still doesn't mean Riot can't change the skins from needing Gems to needing Honor points. > > Make things a little more cohesive with the crafting system. It takes, what, a year of regular and positive play to earn an honor point. That seems like a fair trade for the skins in question. It takes about a month to go up each point and there's only 5 levels, so it's a season long process to get to honor 5 and gain the one random honor skin each time. Only thing they have planned to add so far are more chromas each year for the two existing skins.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GjP7AYJV,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-04T15:20:54.273+0000) > > It takes about a month to go up each point and there's only 5 levels, so it's a season long process to get to honor 5 and gain the one random honor skin each time. Only thing they have planned to add so far are more chromas each year for the two existing skins. Oh, it's not random anymore. Instead of unlocking a skin or a chroma, you are given an Honor point in the hexcrafting system. Then you can make the skins or the chromas. Which is exactly why I am suggesting Riot put the exclusive skins that aren't Hextech themed into the Honor crafting system. That way people can more easily earn those skins, and give people an intensive to play the game year round. What's a better thing to get a person's attention, a slight chance at maybe getting a fraction of what you need for a skin, or a guarantee to get a skin, so long as you keep playing?
: The theme of the honor skins is skins that were previously give-aways that they abolished the system to distribute them in, so they made them honor skins instead. There's not a theme other than that. Hextech gem skins are mostly Hextech, but also other oddballs here and there like Soulstealer Vayne, Dreadnova Darius, and supposedly at some point in the undisclosed future, Dark Star Cho'Gath.
Oh Dark Star Cho is already in the craft system, but that still doesn't mean Riot can't change the skins from needing Gems to needing Honor points. Make things a little more cohesive with the crafting system. It takes, what, a year of regular and positive play to earn an honor point. That seems like a fair trade for the skins in question.
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: Miss Fortune is best girl. Change my mind.
{{champion:518}} = Every girl and every boy
: I'm doing some wit's end + abssial mask combos but I always lack damage and armor. Zhonya as the only one item in the entire game for mages with armor is not good enough. Random kha or lee in jg wins with you automatically.
{{item:3092}} or {{item:3401}} {{item:3504}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3026}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3111}} or {{item:3047}} This with Font of Life in your runes lets you dive in, get Ardent proced for your whole team, and then you stay alive just tankin some hits and getting some hits in and casting E whenever possible.
: Jankos comments about Diana.
I've started playing her as an off tank support. Don't quite have the match ups figured out yet, but I'm workin' on it.
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Di3vaS (EUW)
: BOOOOOOOTS
boots? {{item:1001}}{{item:1001}}
Bârd (NA)
: Why is Garen now more of an attack speed champion than Aatrox?
Well Garen was recently shoved into the spotlight by the Youtuber Exil https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOI2ZQl3ibk Now anyone who saw this video and is skilled enough is putting in their time on Garen, showing that he isn't the worst champion, and because of that, we are in the meta of infinity edge Garen.
Lethermlol (EUNE)
: Please no.
> [{quoted}](name=Lethermlol,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=xws7tx4h,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-16T17:48:41.556+0000) > > Please no. Please Yes!
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: No. They are taking about Pantehon's color story.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=TAxPaGoi,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-08-14T16:00:37.642+0000) > > No. They are taking about Pantehon's color story. Then who the hell is this?
Terozu (NA)
: Her name was Asose.
You mean this girl? https://i.ibb.co/nRLs1V6/nocturneloadscreen-7-le-pie-c-9-17.jpg
: Sooner or later Riot's gonna add Mastery Points Booster in the shop for RP
CH4ram123 (EUNE)
: That is actually good! I woud like to play that champion
> [{quoted}](name=CH4ram123,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=9zwKc6An,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-14T12:17:14.040+0000) > > That is actually good! I woud like to play that champion Yeah, this actually started as a Sivir rework, but I got nothing but hate for suggesting Sivir should have a melee attack and only a single projectile. So I'm still working on making this kit more unique, to separate it from Sivir.
wild0ne (NA)
: Open World MMORPG LOL
While they may not have an mmo, it does please me to say that you will be able to explore the world of Runeterra in Riot's new fighting game.
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AColtZz (EUW)
: Earnable skins through playing
I got like 20-30 skins by playing, including, but not limited to, God-King Darius and Garen, Medieval Twitch, Grey Warwick, etc. You earn chests by getting a S on a champion, and to get more chests you need to earn Ss on other champion. Then you open those chests by getting keys which you get by being nice, making good plays, etc. Then if you earn enough key you are just given Medieval Twitch or Grey Warwick. Of course it's tied into their terrible loot box system, so what you get is random, but you can get anything from them.
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: FAQ: Eternals
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/976/824/913.gif
: /dev: Exploring Eternals
So wait, I'll be paying money to upgrade my mastery emote? I'll be honest, I've never once used the mastery emote. This'll be a hard pass from me dawg. https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HappySilkyGemsbuck-size_restricted.gif
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WHaI9rLn,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2019-08-12T23:09:25.864+0000) > > But the yordles come from a completely separate dimension outside of time. Like when the first sapient creatures, the Atlanteans who predate Targon's arrival, created under water settlements on Runeterra, Fizz left the comforts of Bandle City to play with the mortals. > > It's entirely possible for a young yordle to get lost in another dimension before the creation of the universe. Exept no, that is not how any multi-verse functions. Bandle City exists in a different dimension that exists parallel to Runeterra, so that separate dimension is in it's most likelyhood another version of the main Universe. And you can't have different version of X object if X object has not existed beforehand. Therefore, Other dimensions and universes cannot exist if the first universe has not. There can be no tree branches without a tree. The void is a different matter entirely because it has existed before time itself, making it a very unique anomaly. There's ways to explain it, but it is no separate dimension or universe if it has existe before Universe 1 has. Runeterra may be a fantasy world but the laws of space and time still apply to them.
> [{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WHaI9rLn,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-12T23:22:20.123+0000) > > Exept no, that is not how any multi-verse functions. > > Bandle City exists in a different dimension that exists parallel to Runeterra, so that separate dimension is in it's most likelyhood another version of the main Universe. And you can't have different version of X object if X object has not existed beforehand. Therefore, Other dimensions and universes cannot exist if the first universe has not. > > There can be no tree branches without a tree. > > The void is a different matter entirely because it has existed before time itself, making it a very unique anomaly. There's ways to explain it, but it is no separate dimension or universe if it has existe before Universe 1 has. > > Runeterra may be a fantasy world but the laws of space and time still apply to them. But Bandle City literally exists in a dimension outside of time itself. Meaning it existed before the creation of Runeterra's universe, and it will continue after. Yordles are not effected by time like flesh and blood living creatures. Tristana even complains that experiencing time is weird. Bandle City is not a branch on the tree because it's in a completely separate garden made out of ghosts that has plant being seedlings and ancient trees simultaneously. Like, in theory, that would mean they have an X, Y, Z axis but the W(time) axis is something they don't travel along passively like we do but experience it like we experience going left and right. So yes, the rules of our universe apply to them, but they are from the fourth dimension, and because they are four dimensional, we are only seeing a fraction of their true form, and because our three dimensional brains literally can't comprehend it, they appear however our brains can let us see them, that is why yordles are able to "shapeshift." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0WjV6MmCyM
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WHaI9rLn,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-12T20:02:08.837+0000) > > I like to think the Void was created by a lost yordle. > > Like, they have the same powers; dimension hopping, shapeshifting, emotion manipulating, magic, timeless, curious, etc. > > After a few hundred years of isolation Veigar went from a normal yordle to a dark twisted evil reflection of what he once was. Imagine what a few billion years could do to a yordle. While a good comedic relief of a theory, this holds no value because the Void has already been confirmed to have been there before the existence of Runeterra's known universe, meaning before yordles were even a thing, along with all other known life.
> [{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WHaI9rLn,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-08-12T21:37:47.662+0000) > > While a good comedic relief of a theory, this holds no value because the Void has already been confirmed to have been there before the existence of Runeterra's known universe, meaning before yordles were even a thing, along with all other known life. But the yordles come from a completely separate dimension outside of time. Like when the first sapient creatures, the Atlanteans who predate Targon's arrival, created under water settlements on Runeterra, Fizz left the comforts of Bandle City to play with the mortals. It's entirely possible for a young yordle to get lost in another dimension before the creation of the universe.
: I think the upcoming ADC might be a Lunari.
I think the Celestial herself will comes down. Like how Soraka is the fallen Celestial of the Stars. I think she will be a white rabbit. Not sure if she will be the next champion.
Alex Luu (NA)
: Why do ascended transform into animals?
Ascension turns Kayn into a master shadow assassin, because that is the symbol that he believes best represents him.
Sharjo (EUW)
: TL;DR Lore: The Void
I like to think the Void was created by a lost yordle. Like, they have the same powers; dimension hopping, shapeshifting, emotion manipulating, magic, timeless, curious, etc. After a few hundred years of isolation Veigar went from a normal yordle to a dark twisted evil reflection of what he once was. Imagine what a few billion years could do to a yordle.
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oYheKoJy,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-08-11T23:51:26.438+0000) > > But him and Teemo are getting reworks. The thing is, the reworks will most likely have new voice lines, new animations, and touch ups to their models. That doesn't just happen over night you know. > > That and their release needs to be scheduled, as to not overshadow any other releases like a new champion or a relaunch. > > My guess is some times after the champion after Pantheon's relaunch, but before Fiddlesticks's relaunch. Maybe October, or November? Teemo rework got cancel and they said that. Wukong rework got delayed to unknow date (Which mean mostly canceled )
> [{quoted}](name=ValiantKiller,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oYheKoJy,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-12T00:01:08.117+0000) > > Teemo rework got cancel and they said that. > Wukong rework got delayed to unknow date (Which mean mostly canceled ) No, they said that iteration of his rework wasn't quite what they wanted it to be, but they gathered enough information to make some changes. Also, every champion is in some state of rework, it is impossible that Wukong's rework was canceled. Besides, even if that rework of his kit was canceled, they most likely already started on animation and voice updates. So they are probably just waiting to finalize those before buffing Wukong. I mean Lee Sin didn't see anything for over a full year until the released his new voice, and after that he got buffed.
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oYheKoJy,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-11T23:27:06.207+0000) > > Wait isn't Wukong getting a rework? Why would they buff him now when in a few patches he is getting a new kit? Cause there no rework coming, they silent about it for months now so there nothing confirm it
> [{quoted}](name=ValiantKiller,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oYheKoJy,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-11T23:30:08.695+0000) > > Cause there no rework coming, they silent about it for months now so there nothing confirm it But him and Teemo are getting reworks. The thing is, the reworks will most likely have new voice lines, new animations, and touch ups to their models. That doesn't just happen over night you know. That and their release needs to be scheduled, as to not overshadow any other releases like a new champion or a relaunch. My guess is some times after the champion after Pantheon's relaunch, but before Fiddlesticks's relaunch. Maybe October, or November?
: When Lee sin and Riven allowed with Conquer to one shot squishy and yet Wukong don't get any buff
Wait isn't Wukong getting a rework? Why would they buff him now when in a few patches he is getting a new kit?
: > [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=r1zeL1AT,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-08-11T17:16:40.147+0000) > > "Oh no, someone chose an off meta champion for their roll, they must be trying so I'm not going to try, and I'll complain all game until we lose, boo woo woe is me, it's all their fault." This comment is so dumb that I am speechless.
> [{quoted}](name=Εlin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=r1zeL1AT,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2019-08-11T17:22:09.084+0000) > > This comment is so dumb that I am speechless. As someone who plays off meta champions, like Kalista as a support, I can't tell you how many games I lost because someone gave up because my choice in champion.
: After 10 years we still cannot report a troll in champ select?
"Oh no, someone chose an off meta champion for their roll, they must be trying so I'm not going to try, and I'll complain all game until we lose, boo woo woe is me, it's all their fault."
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: Hi summoner ! When i clicked on your post, I was wondering how you could change Viktor's passive without modifying the whole champion by adding a new mechanic. The answer is: you actually did modify him, and a lot ! So my first advice would be to change your title, since you're changing the whole champion by changing passive ^^ So when I understood you were basically changing everything on the champion, I first didn't like the idea. But I forced myself to read your post, because it could still be interesting. And I was right to do so, cuz your ideas are insanely good ! First thing i really enjoyed: swapping the Hextech Core into a "trinket" position. I really dislike the actual passive, since you are basically forced to build your Hextech Core on Viktor (which therefore is going against alternative builds). The fact you are putting it on your trinket slot makes it better, to my point of view. Just a small question, why do you hate Skarner so much so that your naughty Viktor gets more power by killing a nice gem-ish big scorpion ? What did this nice arthropod do to you :( I really like the idea of getting a pet when you upgrade your Hextech Core, I agree when you say it is in Viktor's lore. But on the other hand, you will probably force people to rush for their upgraded Hextech Core, sonce it'll give you ap and a new pet each time you up it. I'd have prefered some other idea of creating pets (when allied minions die, they could momentarily turn into cyborg-minions, with really high damamges but easy to kill, it could give you a huge split-push, but might look like Yorick). And I am definitely a big fan of your idea of "submitting" jungle camps (so keeping the idea of the modification of your smite, but maybe like this: when your upgrade your Hextech Core, your Smite is changed to Submit. Submit acts exactly like a Smite, but when the camp dies, instead of disappearing it follows you as a pet. It'd give you the opportunity to change your pets: early you'd maybe prefer raptors with you, but when the game is 40 linutes long you'd probably prefer another camp, since every champion with a small AoE can one shot all your raptors). About your evolutions, I like Q and E, but W looks like Yorick's E but It's slower. And R is making me believe you want Volibear in your team ^^
> [{quoted}](name=TRUCBIZZARD,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=FuNTAuyP,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-09T16:05:16.199+0000) > > When i clicked on your post, I was wondering how you could change Viktor's passive without modifying the whole champion by adding a new mechanic. The answer is: you actually did modify him, and a lot ! So my first advice would be to change your title, since you're changing the whole champion by changing passive ^^ > > So when I understood you were basically changing everything on the champion, I first didn't like the idea. But I forced myself to read your post, because it could still be interesting. And I was right to do so, cuz your ideas are insanely good ! Yeah, I try. > First thing i really enjoyed: swapping the Hextech Core into a "trinket" position. I really dislike the actual passive, since you are basically forced to build your Hextech Core on Viktor (which therefore is going against alternative builds). The fact you are putting it on your trinket slot makes it better, to my point of view. Just a small question, why do you hate Skarner so much so that your naughty Viktor gets more power by killing a nice gem-ish big scorpion ? What did this nice arthropod do to you :( Oh, no, in the lore Viktor wanted to replace the fuel cell in his Hexcore with a piece of the living crystals found in Shurima that once made up Skarner's race. Viktor in the lore would cream his proverbial mechanical jeans if he knew Skarner existed. _Viktor demanded Jayce hand over the source of this power, a pulsing crystal from the Shuriman desert. But his former colleague refused, leaving Viktor no option but to take it by force. _ > I really like the idea of getting a pet when you upgrade your Hextech Core, I agree when you say it is in Viktor's lore. But on the other hand, you will probably force people to rush for their upgraded Hextech Core, sonce it'll give you ap and a new pet each time you up it. I'd have prefered some other idea of creating pets (when allied minions die, they could momentarily turn into cyborg-minions, with really high damamges but easy to kill, it could give you a huge split-push, but might look like Yorick). And I am definitely a big fan of your idea of "submitting" jungle camps (so keeping the idea of the modification of your smite, but maybe like this: when your upgrade your Hextech Core, your Smite is changed to Submit. Submit acts exactly like a Smite, but when the camp dies, instead of disappearing it follows you as a pet. It'd give you the opportunity to change your pets: early you'd maybe prefer raptors with you, but when the game is 40 linutes long you'd probably prefer another camp, since every champion with a small AoE can one shot all your raptors). That's more or less what I was going for. I probably could have worded it better. This is my first pass at re-imagining Viktor as a pragmatic unifying cyborg as oppose to a techno dictator. I should try and think of less.... evil basic abilities if I take a second pass, probably just build a new kit around the idea of having cyborg followers. > About your evolutions, I like Q and E, but W looks like Yorick's E but It's slower. And R is making me believe you want Volibear in your team ^^ Well I didn't want him outshining Yorick when it comes to throwing dudes around, and I just assumed Voli is getting a new ultimate at the end of the year, so I figured I would just give the minions Statikk Shiv while the Hexcore is doin' it's thing.
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: But your idea is to make these allied chamions **pets**, something that he controls and who do the dirty work for him. Even if his voice lines say something like you give as examples here, it still comes off as "I am the genius master and you all are there to serve me". And that is simply not Viktor personality-wise. Sorry, but I still think Viktor should never become a pet champion. Improving allies with auras or stuff like that, I can see this. But pets are a no-go.
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=FuNTAuyP,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-09T12:42:04.424+0000) > > But your idea is to make these allied chamions **pets**, something that he controls and who do the dirty work for him. Even if his voice lines say something like you give as examples here, it still comes off as "I am the genius master and you all are there to serve me". And that is simply not Viktor personality-wise. > > Sorry, but I still think Viktor should never become a pet champion. Improving allies with auras or stuff like that, I can see this. But pets are a no-go. "Pet" is just the technical term used by Riot for summonable allies. Like Tibbers is a pet, Shaco's and Wukong's doubles are a pets, Daisy is a pet, and I don't hear you complaining that Ivern is bending a sentinel's will to do his bidding. Again, if Ivern created pentagrams beneath jungle creatures and spoke backwards when he makes them disappear, that wouldn't look like a good thing. it is all about optics my dude. But Viktor still is not the good guy here, even now his motto is "liberate yourself from flesh and emotion." > Instead, he intensified his efforts to find ways in which humanity could be shepherded beyond their emotional weaknesses and brought into a new, more reasoned stage of their evolution. Such research sometimes transgresses the boundaries of what would be considered ethical in Piltover (and Zaun) but they are all necessary steps in bringing about Viktor's Glorious Evolution. Viktor says animal testing is a-okay, so why can't he augment the wolves?
: He is not making "pets", since he doesn't see himself as the master of these cyborgs. He grants you augmentation, if you wish to accept on your own will, because he wants humanity to improve. He dislikes the Glorious Evolved, who are basically worshipping him as a god, since that is not what his Glorious Evolution is about. He doesn't want to become a god or leader, he just wants to help people with his own methods. Augmenting allies could be something to explore for his gameplay, but it shouldn't be in form of pets. Something like a stat increasing aura for his allies, for example, would represent his whole "augmenting people" theme without going back to the old misunderstanding that he wants to enslave people (he really doesn't).
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=FuNTAuyP,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-08-09T12:15:48.939+0000) > > He is not making "pets", since he doesn't see himself as the master of these cyborgs. > > He grants you augmentation, if you wish to accept on your own will, because he wants humanity to improve. He dislikes the Glorious Evolved, who are basically worshipping him as a god, since that is not what his Glorious Evolution is about. He doesn't want to become a god or leader, he just wants to help people with his own methods. > > Augmenting allies could be something to explore for his gameplay, but it shouldn't be in form of pets. Something like a stat increasing aura for his allies, for example, would represent his whole "augmenting people" theme without going back to the old misunderstanding that he wants to enslave people (he really doesn't). Oh, I'm not saying he will be running around yelling for people become robots. It's all about delivery. I mean, given different animations and voice lines Ivern's passive can seem evil. If that were the case I would make him target enemy minions and champions, but he is targeting allies, and what he sees as mindless animals. Like when an ally dies he wouldn't say things like,_ "your soul is mine!"_ he would be more like, _"yes, embrace the machines, become perfect,"_ or something like, _"I will fix you."_ Beside, there isn't much difference between being enslaved and joining an emotionless mechanical hive mind, at least on a practical level. Now Battlecast Viktor, he would run around yelling at people to become robots.
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