DaRkSkyX (EUW)
: I know... When she ults she get 6 wings, but that's hard to see because it's an effect... And that's glowing purple, not actual wings.
So she actually ALWAYS had 6 wings! Top pair is her collar. Middle pair are the prominent ones. Bottom pair are trailing behind her. At first I thought it was just her dress but the wings are hanging down there and give her model and nice trailing effect! 😍💜🖤
SSmotzer (NA)
: With the financial crisis of Gamestop, video game centric funko are probably going to be things of the past.
Many other stores sell Funko products. Target, Walmart, 2nd & Charles, Hot Topic, Amazon, multiple online vendors, comic book shops, etc. As long as video games are being played, there will always be physical merchandise that people will buy.
: To be fair, Gamestop pretty much has to liquidate any Funko Pops it gets because the market is so oversaturated with them that they don't move, and the same goes for Barnes and Noble too. They really overdo it with those figures, and it's really not good for their business. I think Funko has much better success doing the Pint Sized Minis and the Vinyl Blind Boxes, since those will sell provided the IP in the specific set is current and in vogue.
I see your point, but I've noticed that some lines of Pops can't be kept on the shelves. Hot Topic has exclusives in different franchises (like Nightmare Before Christmas or Drag Race) that are always out of stock faster than others. I think focusing on a few different champs and not over-saturating the market is what makes a successful line. In the early days of Pop (and probably still a bit today), so many different lines had a TON of different individual products but they all looked similar or tried to capture an entire cast of characters. Keeping each one UNIQUE and exclusive is a way to make them fly off the shelves in my opinion. Many other stores like 2nd & Charles, Target, and Hot Topic still have BIG sections of their stores dedicated to Pops. I don't think this fad is dying out just yet. And products in mainstream stores are always free advertising if the logo is visible and attracts attention... Of course, this is all very biased because I just really want a Hecarim 6" Pop {{champion:120}} ... And a Jhin {{champion:202}}!
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: > [{quoted}](name=PTZekrom69,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=I5ql1gvx,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-28T23:40:51.464+0000) > > No they haven't. She hasn't married yet because she's too busy cleaning the mess out of the Laurent name that her father did. Not only that, Fiora and Vi live in almost different continents. If anything, Vi would be with Cait, not Fiora. Just to clear up a few things: - This is an alternate universe where they probably do not live very far apart. - Check out Swain's soul fragment line for Fiora.
Amen!! Ever since Swain's VO, I've been curious... Since Riot doesn't usually veer the champions to far from their main characteristics in different skins, I think this is as close to a confirmation as we're going to get for now.
: They’ve been hinting at Fiora being gay for awhile. Which makes sense as I think one of the people that inspired the character was famously bisexual.
Interesting! I can't wait to see how this evolves!
: I don't know if that qualifies as BEEEEG news Being that A: It's not really substantiated by any real proof and B: It's not main universe so even if Fiora and Vi are together in the Heartseekers universe it's kinda like... who cares?
To quote KestrelGirl above: "Check out Swain's soul fragment line for Fiora." And also, how much more proof do you need if they are fighting for each other's attention, "love," and "romance." On the "Story, Art, & Sound" boards, two champion's potential relationship DOES count as BIG news... Because it's apart of the STORY.
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: TheBravoRay had to attend to other infernal tasks, but entrusted me to complete the resurrection of our one true lord \m/ https://youtu.be/2kKNT3PdDkE
My only question: will Morde remain a Noxus/Shadow Isles champ?????? Please!
: Some guesses are floating around that it is actually {{champion:8}} . It's possible but we are also due for another Noxian champion and a bit more of a lore shakeup for the region (looking at you, du Couteaus).
Ooooooooooh right!!!!!! I completely forgot about {{champion:8}} because, you know, he doesn't seem to need claws in-game. But hmmmmmmmmm 🤔, that'd still be interesting to find out why his property is hanging up there.
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: Separate writers, separate resources. Skin lore will never impede or “slow down” development of main-canon lore. And yeah, Eclipse/Coven is uh... requested a lot. A whole lot.
ECLIPSE DIANA!!!! {{champion:131}} {{champion:131}} :P
: Skin Universe Lore in 2019: Alt Fantasy, Multiverse Theory, and You
I absolutely love what y'all have done for the alt universe! I would just want to see more of the same. Also, if y'all could keep placing outliners into existing or new alt universes. If every skin had a story or at least some connection to one other skin, that would be cool! Maybe having tiered alt universe ways of organizing everything like: "Roboterra" (just a cheesy example) then it would divide into "Project" and "Program." Just so we know what different skin lines exist in the same universe. :D
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Hotarµ (NA)
: >But Varus' story had been done countless of times, Yeah, but the whole sacrificial-tool of vengeance was an interesting take on it that made him a unique prospect, similar in a way to Kalista, but ultimately unique nonetheless. Riot easily could have just modernized his story and fleshed it out more, but they changed a fundamental aspect of it and I'm still indecisive about how I feel about it. For the most part, there isn't an elephant in the room. I think the majority of players just geniunely _don't care_ about the sexuality of characters as long as it isn't shoehorned in or alters an already existing character in any way. That's my take on it, at least. I think Xayah & Rakan's relationship is interesting although somewhat dull on the surface, Neeko's addition of being lesbian just doesn't really add any weight to her story (not that it's a particularly bad thing, per say), and interestingly enough I couldn't find official confirmation of Taric being gay. That's odd, I always assumed Riot confirmed he was homosexual but I guess not. Either way, I _think_ he's gay, but again, doesn't really add much to the story. I'd personally like to see more fleshed out backstories instead of sexualities being tacked on, you know?
So to my knowledge they did end up editing Varus' new lore around the time Aatrox was reworked. The "old Varus lore" is now the lore of the Darkin.... He did sacrifice himself, etc. etc. and was out for vengeance... They slipped it back in while leaving Kai and Val's story.
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: > [{quoted}](name=ScubaVampire,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uvQuv9PQ,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2018-11-27T04:39:55.291+0000) > > I'd have to respectfully disagree. I could argue about Darkin and Varus and how they may or may not be beyond sexuality (something about being trapped in a weapon for YEARS might make you a bit focused on other things), but I want to point out a huge underlying detail. > > Riot put in a ton of time, money, and effort into not only a story, not only a comic but a FULL FLEDGED (and amazing I might add) music video! This is not their mission. They don't make any money off of a music video and Varus is an older champ so the profit margin is probably really small like when you update any older champion. Riot doesn't just make music videos for every old champion or lore update. They cared and put in a ton of their resources behind this. To the extent people say, "a champ's sexuality doesn't matter in-game," they are right with Varus. It does nothing for the in-game content, but Riot cared enough to add a backstory and character to this champion to make his own MUSIC VIDEO... Like that's huge! > > And I look at it like this. The love of TWO MEN are keeping this powerful force (I don't wanna say evil because I feel for the Darkin {{champion:266}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:110}} {{item:3073}} {{item:3073}} {{item:3073}} ) at bay. This tells me that in Riot efforts to storytelling they want to get the point across to everyone (and hopefully younger minds) that two people's love can be a strong force in their universe and can conquer a lot. Cause we don't know, they might overpower Varus one day; they left his story in the middle of the struggle. > > So no. Varus isn't specifically LGBTQ. But his overall backstory is better in my opinion. I never said the story wasn't better than his previous lore. That's all beside the point. The point here is that Riot made a big show and to-do about Varus' new lore and this huge plug that it's LGBT. That's dandy. However, Varus, the character was specifically written to NOT be LGBT, but instead the other minds in the body he's stolen. He's _THE_ pivotal example of an illusion of inclusion. Riot made a huge ordeal about his lore pointing and saying "Look! Look! Gay! Look!" but ultimately it's a huge red herring because it doesn't actually pertain to Varus the Darkin aside from that sometimes he has to suppress them. Hell, in his color story, he's dominant at the moment and has the others nearly suppressed entirely, except for a quip here and there and guilt for killing. So Varus is a pitiful example of LGBT representation because it's not actually real. The gay couple in him are a plot device, a token for Riot to toss around and claim they have representation. Riot didn't even update his VO to reflect the new change in character, which again, shows their spineless "commitment" to representation. It's like in the movies when you hear the woman tell the guy "I love you," and he says "You too," which fires off the woman because it's not an actual statement of love. This is exactly that scenario. Riot is merely appearing like they had representation with Varus, when they delivered him in such a way to actually avoid having LGBT representation in the game. It's hollow. Neeko, conversely, actually having flirts with other females, IS representation in the game. She's the first character Riot has stood behind and openly admitted and given the freedom to be a fully fledged LGBT character, no strings attached, no subversive storytelling that casts ambiguity on it, and her LGBT status exists in her, and not in 2nd string characters just in her lore.
Well, we agree about Neeko. Wooo! Inclusivity! We disagree completely on Varus, but it is what is it. To me, not every story is the same and using a diverse arrangement of characters and traits to tell a story is a win in my book. The future will tell us what Riot plans to do with the rest of the roster. The only point I will point out is that Riot has said they WANT to update Varus' VO along with Miss Fortune and others. For champs like Aatrox who did get a VO rework, it's because he was a bigger project than just the lore for Varus so they killed multiple birds with one stone (so to speak). Miss Fortune was super close to getting a new VO (because her current one is not representative of the direction Riot is taking her), but hers wasn't just right either so it got delayed. If MISS FORTUNE one of League's most notable champs is still on the back burner, it's understandable that Varus' VO is too. They've come out and said it'll happen. My hope is that his VO will have THREE completely different actors voicing the lines and it'll be really unique... But we can only sit back and wait.
: > [{quoted}](name=ScubaVampire,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uvQuv9PQ,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-11-26T04:55:36.175+0000) > > "Riot isn't woke enough!!! AHHHHHHH!!! Bro-culture is bad!!!" > *Riot takes to be a better company (at least outwardly with their products)* > "You're pandering to the gays!! It's irrelevant! You are doing everything wrong!" > > This has happened twice now with Varus and now Neeko... Riot is damned if they do or damned if they don't. Varus is a different case. Varus is the illusion of inclusion, because Varus, the Darkin, is not gay. The two men who's body he stole and is currently fighting for control of it over ARE gay, but Varus is not. Varus is a direct case of misdirection and smoke and mirrors, because it was Riot's "attempt" to address the lack of LGBT characters without actually committing to making an LGBT character. Neeko is the first legitimate LGBT character in the game, as the champion herself is gay, and it's not a convoluted reach around that ultimately doesn't affect the title character like is the case with Varus.
I'd have to respectfully disagree. I could argue about Darkin and Varus and how they may or may not be beyond sexuality (something about being trapped in a weapon for YEARS might make you a bit focused on other things), but I want to point out a huge underlying detail. Riot put in a ton of time, money, and effort into not only a story, not only a comic but a FULL FLEDGED (and amazing I might add) music video! This is not their mission. They don't make any money off of a music video and Varus is an older champ so the profit margin is probably really small like when you update any older champion. Riot doesn't just make music videos for every old champion or lore update. They cared and put in a ton of their resources behind this. To the extent people say, "a champ's sexuality doesn't matter in-game," they are right with Varus. It does nothing for the in-game content, but Riot cared enough to add a backstory and character to this champion to make his own MUSIC VIDEO... Like that's huge! And I look at it like this. The love of TWO MEN are keeping this powerful force (I don't wanna say evil because I feel for the Darkin {{champion:266}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:110}} {{item:3073}} {{item:3073}} {{item:3073}} ) at bay. This tells me that in Riot efforts to storytelling they want to get the point across to everyone (and hopefully younger minds) that two people's love can be a strong force in their universe and can conquer a lot. Cause we don't know, they might overpower Varus one day; they left his story in the middle of the struggle. So no. Varus isn't specifically LGBTQ. But his overall backstory is better in my opinion.
: I think I get why we aren't seeing eye to eye. I didn't make my point clearly enough, so here goes. I don't have any problem with an LGBTQ champ for the sake of it- in fact, for the reasons you stated, I do think it's a good thing. My problem here is entirely with Riot and how they handled this situation. Instead of giving a strong narrative, or simply leaving it ambiguous (as with most other champs), a Riot employee _took the time to confirm via Twitter_ that Neeko was a lesbian. To me, this reeks of "See? We care.". They want this champion to serve as evidence of a diversity-oriented mindset, especially as a means of putting the bro-culture lawsuit as far behind them as they can, as quickly as they can. Perhaps I'm just being too cynical. That's how I tend to be. Regardless, I just want to make clear I have no problem with Neeko (or any other champion) being homosexual. I have a problem with Riot making it that way for the wrong reasons. Sexual identity should not be exploited for PR gains, which is why I make the argument that the sexuality shouldn't be mentioned unless it provides something to the character itself. In my opinion, it's a sleazy business tactic far before it is a genuine effort to give the LGBTQ community representation. But hey, I could be wrong- they may have just decided to make an LGBTQ champ for the sake of it, in which case I'm 100% on board. As I said, it was the manner in which they handled 'announcing' it that put me off, nothing else. As an aside, I've never really run with the idea that every champion is de-facto straight. I always just kinda assumed that it worked like the Olympic village- when the champs aren't on the rift, they gotta stay somewhere, presumably together (if you don't know what I'm referring to there, Google how many condoms get shipped out to the Olympic village when the event is hosted. Interesting stuff.) Anyways, I think Neeko is a good thing as far as setting precedents in the long term. Just kinda irks me in the now.
I think our views are like a ven-diagram; they intersect at points and just differ in others. I understand that due to the lawsuit and all the controversy, it seems that they are doing this to prove they aren't all bad. My take on it is: If they can't come out and say a champ is gay now then when can they? Do they wait a year? Two? There's no telling when the lawsuit will be done; that's up to the courts and the parties. As long as they're not adding in diversity, then they're going to get criticized for it. So when they do, I don't see the point of criticizing them. BUT I understand you're on board and I'm never meant to target JUST you. As to the ambiguity point, I understand a lot of champs it's just left to the imagination. LGBTQ examples I'd give would be Taric for one has always been hinted but never confirmed (especially now with Neeko's voice line towards him). There are champions who are left ambiguous and others who aren't (Illaoi and Gangplank for another example), so to me, this is just a case where they are making strides for the better and it does double as a victory (at least in my mind). Thanks for this discussion. I'm glad we could talk it out.
: Something tells me you didn't read the actual post. My point was that _this instance seems exploitative and not well done_, not that it's bad to have representation. Hell, the first thing I said was that LGBTQ rep is a good thing. Also, I liked the Varus comic and I enjoy his new backstory. The Darkin thing fits well. What pissed me off there was I very much liked his old backstory, and the new one did away with that entirely. My only problem with the comic was the word 'heartlight' was beaten to literal death in it (could we at least try and change it up, use some analagous term instead? It got a bit repetitive).
Truthfully, my comment was more aimed at the general feeling I have been getting around this subject. But to your point that "Neeko gains nothing or real value out of her sexuality in terms of relationships," why does it have to? Although, it's a great milestone for Riot to be adding diverse champs to their roster, why does it have to come with some great meaning? Being straight has nothing to do with Lux's or Zoe's in-game or out-of-game narrative at all. There are some voice lines, but that's really it. There is nothing significant about it either, it's just fun. Riot adds character and uniqueness to champions not because it impacts their story or their gameplay, but because it's fun and engaging. Surprisingly, an LGBTQ person doesn't need a HUGE character development arc or narrative to be queer. We exist right beside the rest of the world and have other stories to tell besides our sexuality. There's nothing wrong with Riot opening admitting she's a lesbian for the pure stake that she is one. I hope this doesn't sound too aggressive towards you, it's not meant to. But when people (maybe not you) say, "Her sexuality is inconsequential or unimportant!" it's so hypocritical. Move on. Don't rant and rave about it then. No one does when Lux, Miss Fortune, Zoe, Ahri, Evelynn, Ezreal, etc. etc. come out with flirty lines towards the opposite sex. To the LGBTQ community, it's huge! But that's because we want to be represented like everyone else. Yes. There are always right ways and wrong ways to go about change, but at least it's changing for the better.
: Beating A Dead Horse (That Is Actually A Chameleon)
"Riot isn't woke enough!!! AHHHHHHH!!! Bro-culture is bad!!!" *Riot takes to be a better company (at least outwardly with their products)* "You're pandering to the gays!! It's irrelevant! You are doing everything wrong!" This has happened twice now with Varus and now Neeko... Riot is damned if they do or damned if they don't.
: ... She got a skin. Dark Water. It's pretty cool you should check it out
Yes. I have seen it but I'm not talking about that skin. Also not talking about her Valkyrie or Bloodmoon or Lunar Goddess. All of which are great skins. Have you heard of Ahri? Miss Fortune? Lux? Many other champs who get tons of skins? It wouldn't be the first time a champ gets another great skin. Just trying to give some feedback on some awesome things I would like to see for the future. Wish people would look for the positives instead of jumping to sarcasm and judgement.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: I dont understand you giys who complain about Diana but I honestly want to understand.. I believe that diana and leona already had an event correct? Leona and Diana and different Champions and yes thematically theyre tied but so are Brand and Lissandra, Ice and Fire and yet I dont expect Liss to get a skin when Brand does... Theyre their own Champions its not like theyre Xayah and Rakan where they get Skins together.. Except Diana has a good amount of skins and just recently she got a Dark Waters skin that look pretty nice! Diana shouldnt be center in this theme as she has enough skins and Others like Ivern still only have one...
"Complain" is such a negative term. I LOVE what Riot has done with Leona and a ton of skins this year. Just would like to include Diana in that theme. Didn't ask for this to happen over night but for possible future projects. The way in which Diana and Leona are related is MUCH more relevant and close than Brand and Liss. "Fire" and "ice" champs can apply to SO many champs. (Annie, brand, Anivia, Ashe, Trundle, Lissandra, etc.) There's only 1 aspect of the sun and only 1 aspect of the moon. Both are from targon. Both stories are intertwined. And moon/sun have been traditional counterparts to each other in every culture. Diana's lore even talks about how they need to unite and work together. The SAME exact skin concept can apply beautifully to Diana and I'm excited for that possibility. So instead of thinking I'm complaining, see this as a positive post about a want for the future. No where in my OG post did I complain about previous skins. Yes. Dark Waters is great! Love it. And? Ahri gets 10 great skins a year... Doesn't mean there aren't more great ideas. Also... No event that I know of. Targon lore update? Yes. But no event.
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: Pajama Guardians? Why wouldn't you just make them chromas?
Maybe just price them at more expensive chroma???? That would solve my problem with them. Or at 750. It would fit that tier because it's an existing skin/base in the game that basically gets different clothes. Please Riot.
: Visual and Sound Effects Update: Anivia
Love these changes!!! I was wondering on Prehistoric Anivia if it would at all be possible to make the wall bones? Like huge dinosaur bones? Or at the very least, recolor her wall to look like stone? I know it's a lower tier skin but it's still such a good skin and this would just make it so much more immersive! Thanks riot for constantly making this game better!!
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: In their original Ascended bodies, they absolutely could reshape flesh and bone into whatever they wanted. Once they were trapped as weapons, they lost a lot of the specific powers they had once had. :-)
Scathlocke, just a thought on Varus' original ascended form!! Since we learned that Varus and the other darkin were once ascended, I've thought it'd be really poetic and beautiful if Varus had the form of a stag. Since Valmar and Kai were hunters and stag is an traditional game for hunters to go after, it'd be a cool foreshadowing. Plus there's the deer in the music video symbolizing their struggle to destroy the darkin before it destroys them. And it'd be so freaking pretty to have a magestic deer skin (along with amazing antlers) with a bow and arrow fit for an ascended. Just a thought... :)
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Leetri (EUW)
: "Far beyond the known lands of Valoran, in the deepest, darkest spaces beneath the world, even the mythical Watchers are drawn to the power of the World Runes…" That's a quote from the lore you can find on the map, along with a picture of the creature in question. That strongly implies that it is a Watcher.
Totally agree but I just saw another post where they confirmed it's not a Watcher. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/WwJiJE6J-so-this-is-the-first-imagery-of-a-watcher-right
: The creature from the cinematic is not a Watcher, its a random voidborn.
Soooooo.... just saw another Riot post. The did confirm that this is NOT a Watcher. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/WwJiJE6J-so-this-is-the-first-imagery-of-a-watcher-right
: The creature from the cinematic is not a Watcher, its a random voidborn.
https://map.leagueoflegends.com/en_US One of the newest entries on the Interactive map HIGHLY implies it is a Watcher. Yes, the Watcher's could've sent it to do it's bidding but it says "drawn" which (to me) says physical movement which would me they come in person to get something as important as a world rune.
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: My Personal Preference would be a new artillery/poke mage something similar to Xerath or Velkoz, I also wouldn't mind seeing the champion from the shadow isles. Something more likely however I would say is a new yordle, the last time we got any sort of major release for yordles was with the rework of Poppy, which, correct me if I'm wrong, but was about 2 and a half years ago. Other honourable mentions would be: * Void support (Unlikely because the past two champions have been a void champion and a support) * Shadow isles marksman * Shuriman support EDIT FOR CLARITY: I wasnt as specific with two of the honourable mentions as I should have been, so let me elaborate. Yes, I understand that Kalista is a shadow isles marksmen, what I was thinking of was more of something along the lines of the revenants, more like on the side of Karthus, Hecarim and Morde, correct me if Im wrong, but I don't think Kalista is sided with them For the Shuriman support, More of a sand mage similar to Azir but as a support, perhaps someone who served under him, resurrected through some means, Maybe by Xerath.
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: Aatrox Special interaction
I love this VO!!!!! Funny, stoic, and badass! Are there any plans to change Varus to Vaarus.... I completely think it could work while still leaving in Aatrox's voice lines. You could put in a response by Vaarus like "Can't keep up with the times, brother?!?!" or "Look again, old man!" It just makes sense to have Vaarus match the rest and it would provide some dialogue between the 2! {{champion:110}} It could be really funny and show the history with voice lines! {{champion:266}}
: Aatrox actually mentions Vaarus....
I really hope they do make it Vaarus.... it just makes sense!!! I'd also be okay with leaving in the voice lines making fun of it but add invoice lines in response by Vaarus, "Can't keep up with the times, brother?!?!" or "Look again, old man!" It could be really funny and show the history with voice lines!
: Aatrox: The Darkin Blade | Champion Trailer - League of Legends
{{champion:266}} {{champion:266}} {{champion:266}} {{champion:266}} {{champion:266}} This is an AMAZING rework!!!!! I love the VO, the visuals, gameplay! Great job Riot!!!!! Can't wait until it goes live! And I am on the edge of my seat for the lore!!!!! You all pretty substantially changed the look of his weapon.... any plans to bring back the old one on another Darkin champ???? HMMMMMMMMM!
: Pyke's narrative writer here. While it's not a direct reference or inspiration in any way, we are obviously GoT fans. It's more of an homage to Mr. Martin and the constant badassery of GoT. edit: plus we all just loved the name.
Love it!!!! It totally fits! Love all parts of this new champ (and of course, GoT!)!
Jaspers (EUW)
: Name wise, I'm not sure they put as much thought it in as you think. Pike is a fish that comes from the sea, plus pike is also a type of long weapon that 'heads' are displayed on after execution, he's kinda after the same thing. They changed a letter so it's the same sounding word. Characterisation wise, dunno, don't watch GoT.
Respectfully, I'd have to disagree. Riot vets every name in multiple languages and in every country. If there's some sort of conflict, they have to know ahead of time before releasing it to the world. So I'm sure they had to have known about a very popular (be it extremely nerdy) television show in pop culture right now. I'd be willingly to bet that a lot of people at Riot are even fans! And definitely! Pike is a fish and I'm sure George RR Martin knew that too when he named his fictional location. A lot of fictional literature gets its ideas from real world aspects... We work with what we know. So I agree! I'm sure there are other reasons like a fish or a weapon but I'm just pointing out the HUGE similarities b/t two of my loves! Lol
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: Rework for Morgana and Kayle
Where did you see that Riot said only 3 new champs and 7 reworks?
Skelenth (EUW)
: No. People complain about losing a fine character _in exchange_ for a different character. This is not about the hair alone. It just isn't Swain. VGUs were supposed to bring outdated champions to current standards. Replacing the character misses the point, as it might as well just be a new champion alltogether.
I would have to disagree about losing the character all together. He's still what he was: Noxian leader, warlock, ravens, etc. Sure he looks different and I don't doubt that to many, they liked the old, ugly concept. It gave him a niche but I'd argue Noxians wouldnt follow an old man with a cane even if he did go full bird form. Strength needs to be seen right away and I believe it has. As far as game play goes, I've played the new swain and it's amazing!!! Plus it feels like the old swain! The constant roots and CC remind me of how swain on live plays. Wanting to stay close to the enemy to suck the life out of them is still there. To me, swain now has the best parts of the old swain with a much more interesting and intriguing kit. These VGUs have been widely accepted and loved. Warwick is undisputed as one of the best and they keep getting more praise. Riot from a business standpoint wouldn't completely "ruin" a character if the majority didn't approve. That's not good business practices. Again, I'll point out. Riot takes our opinions into account far better than any other company (of course, I'll preference with "that I know of")
Skelenth (EUW)
: Something Something Future VGUs
In a world with dragons, demons, talking animal hybrids, talking animals, trees that are sentient, giant alien snake monsters, and an evil rat with a blow dart.... Are we really going to get upset over a guy with long hair set in a fantastical, fiction time period somewhere between medieval times and the early 20th century??? Riot asks for players advice and tries to please us more than any other video game company that I know of. Let's appreciate the effort to update an old character WHOM they are not making a huge profit on because majority of players probably already own him.
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