: I personally ranked 'Ignite' as the worst. The video was awesome but I wasn't really feeling the hype with the song. Although the video for this years Worlds Championship was a bit lacking. I think they reused the same effect from Varus' 'As We Fall' on the prop players as they walked to the stadium. Plus it was boring to see JUST Faker, Caps, and whoever was on the subway for 3 and half minutes I was expecting more players and their respective memorable champs. But I thought the song was pretty good. It wasn't as cheesy as 'Legends Never Die' and it wasn't as drawn out as 'Ignite'.
> [{quoted}](name=l Ryden l,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oENjHkvI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-09T02:06:14.908+0000) > > I personally ranked 'Ignite' as the worst. The video was awesome but I wasn't really feeling the hype with the song. > > Although the video for this years Worlds Championship was a bit lacking. I think they reused the same effect from Varus' 'As We Fall' on the prop players as they walked to the stadium. Plus it was boring to see JUST Faker, Caps, and whoever was on the subway for 3 and half minutes I was expecting more players and their respective memorable champs. > > But I thought the song was pretty good. It wasn't as cheesy as 'Legends Never Die' and it wasn't as drawn out as 'Ignite'. I agree with this one, like the lyrics in ignite are nice, but the song itself is really weak. Like the animation is one of the best and probably the most memorable after rise in my opinion since it's the best moments of past worlds animated as you would see in a champion's eyes and if the players took over the champions. But the song is just boring.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB36GMvR,comment-id=0003000200000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T02:37:08.818+0000) > > Hey, I've met really toxic people that just don't trigger the automated system so they don't ever get punished, That doesn't make them any less of a prick. Lmao and I couldn't care less about someone's rank, I'd rather play with an Iron IV that is having fun and makes the experience enjoyable than a cocky challenger that have some superiority delusion. But that may be me tbh. Yeah you got I'm actually gaming the system for almost 10 years by now on all of my 4 accounts without a single slipup, that's totally me.
> [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB36GMvR,comment-id=00030002000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T09:28:03.993+0000) > > Yeah you got I'm actually gaming the system for almost 10 years by now on all of my 4 accounts without a single slipup, that's totally me. Glad we agree.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB36GMvR,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2019-10-06T22:21:49.938+0000) > > While technically it's not mandatory to ban a champ and you're technically right, the way you sound like such a dick saying it makes me think you're just one of those toxic overconfident pricks that end up inting anyways > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} As a never even chat restricted low Diamond player I'm truly the worst kind of player to have on your team.
> [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB36GMvR,comment-id=000300020000,timestamp=2019-10-06T22:30:49.014+0000) > > As a never even chat restricted low Diamond player I'm truly the worst kind of player to have on your team. Hey, I've met really toxic people that just don't trigger the automated system so they don't ever get punished, That doesn't make them any less of a prick. Lmao and I couldn't care less about someone's rank, I'd rather play with an Iron IV that is having fun and makes the experience enjoyable than a cocky challenger that have some superiority delusion. But that may be me tbh.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iB36GMvR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-06T19:00:14.466+0000) > > Stop crying and respect your team mate's decision not to ban a champion. While technically it's not mandatory to ban a champ and you're technically right, the way you sound like such a dick saying it makes me think you're just one of those toxic overconfident pricks that end up inting anyways {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
iiGazeii (NA)
: So what, he shouldn't have an ult unless he builds AP? It doesn't do anything but damage.
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EAfl1uvJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-05T11:38:02.864+0000) > > So what, he shouldn't have an ult unless he builds AP? It doesn't do anything but damage. {{champion:18}} 's ult deals very good damage despite scaling only off AP and so does her W but she deals enough damage. Why should Ezreal be able to deal more damage while also having more poke, a safer kit and his ult being global? Consider his strengths compared to how it would weaken him just from his ult not dealing like 600 dmg while lowering his CD from landing skillshots with less than 8 sec cds.
Jansuo (EUNE)
: If he dodged the champ. select then he should be honored, not reported. If I were him, I would go troll the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Jansuo,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=PhnFi55P,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-23T15:58:38.271+0000) > > If he dodged the champ. select then he should be honored, not reported. If I were him, I would go troll the game. Yup, this is a Yasuo main alright!
Barso55 (NA)
: How to deal with fizz in low elo?
Hello, Fizz main here, what you have to understand about him is mostly his Q range, that's the key, take him to practice tool and get used to his Q range because if any Fizz wastes E to engage, they're just trolling. Also remember in lane that he is the only assassin in the mid lane with absolutely no ranged poke, he **HAS** to be on top of anything he wants to damage, this includes CS. Abuse the fact that you know his range and at level 6 don't try anything until you made sure his ult is down, get his ult range memorized as well, remember that he will always try to land it at least at mid range if desperate. Add the range from Q and protobelt and always play reactively, never proactively until his E is down. his E costs a lot of mana so forcing it over and over with heavy harass is extremely punishing for him. Gank him even when aware that he will most likely escape from the gank, but remember that before Sheen (second Item usually unless you're bad at him), he has no mana items. So making him use that big chunk of mana and his only wave clear really hurts him. The only other waveclear he has is Protobelt, and he needs to spend a lot of gold on it. TLDR; You're not supposed to kill him but he's very weak to pressure because of high costs and no reliable poke. Learn his range on Q and R and add them together and also have in consideration his protobelt. Play reactively until he uses E, in which case switch gears to proactive to harass with no chance at him fighting back. Good luck out there my man!
: She and Vayne are pretty dumb right now. When they snowball bot, they just take over the game way too hard.
> [{quoted}](name=Crescent Dusk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m7gOxgpu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-22T09:00:44.154+0000) > > She and Vayne are pretty dumb right now. When they snowball bot, they just take over the game way too hard. Doesn't help that bot is decided by who snowballs currently, there's never an even matchup, just one fed bot taking over on either side.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=f4jA20aA,comment-id=000200000003,timestamp=2019-09-19T22:19:21.122+0000) > > "/s" Oh wow you are full of sarcasm. You are quite late btw
> [{quoted}](name=anatasjhsh01,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=f4jA20aA,comment-id=0002000000030000,timestamp=2019-09-19T22:43:15.187+0000) > > Oh wow you are full of sarcasm. > > You are quite late btw I know, I saw the other comment before replying, just to make sure you got it {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
yrknaqren (EUW)
: Thing is your logo looks better than the current one, because at least it actually is clean. They tried to make it clean, but added weird.. whatever they are.. those weird border like things at the bottom of G, U and S that stop and random points going up the letter. I think that's supposed to give it more depth? Anyways, it's good they aren't really visible unless you look at a big image.
> [{quoted}](name=yrknaqren,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=90zu7G7p,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-18T11:44:28.140+0000) > > Thing is your logo looks better than the current one, because at least it actually is clean. They tried to make it clean, but added weird.. whatever they are.. those weird border like things at the bottom of G, U and S that stop and random points going up the letter. I think that's supposed to give it more depth? Anyways, it's good they aren't really visible unless you look at a big image. Yeah I know what you mean, they added the whole "targon metal" or whatever, so the material looks like some wird fantasy metal, so they try to simplify it while keeping it looking detailed, which are opposite styles.
: "PvE game modes cost too many resources"
> I'm starting to question where goes all that profit from skins... Riot acts like they're in bankruptcy and desperate. This is the one thing that annoys me the most, and people who defend them claiming that Riot NEEDS the money are the worst. Are they in it for the money? of fucking course, they're not a damn charity. Does it excuse them for coming up with scummy cash grab schemes and lazy content that prioritizes a quick buck over player satisfaction? Fuck no, that's stupid. How many Ahri/Ezreal/Lux/Kai'Sa and prestige skins before they have enough money to spend in fixing shit and come up with features that are long overdue? But hey, even achievements/stat trackers are gonna be a god damn paid feature, and they're not even well implemented as it's generic for every damn champion. What an actual joke.
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=f4jA20aA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-19T10:17:39.238+0000) > > Well it just takes time for system to catch up. > Move on. > Do you expect riot to have a crystal ball to know when some1 is going to troll? > Maybe he just had a streak of bad games. > Off-meta isnt punishable. > > /s What? You can't be serious. Off meta? Did you see his items? His cs? His score? Sitting in lane doing nothing? Read the post please and look at the picture. If riot didn't soften the ban system he would have been banned after the second game which is the right thing he is obviously griefing games
> [{quoted}](name=anatasjhsh01,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=f4jA20aA,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-19T10:50:40.001+0000) > > What? You can't be serious. > Off meta? Did you see his items? His cs? His score? Sitting in lane doing nothing? Read the post please and look at the picture. > > If riot didn't soften the ban system he would have been banned after the second game which is the right thing he is obviously griefing games "/s"
: > [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9aQpcEVx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-11T02:26:45.909+0000) > > kogmaw out damages kaisa by a lot a lot. > it's honestly not even close. > > people honestly have no real grasp on just how much dmg kog can do, if you think kai'sa is broken just wait for a tank meta to roll by and see kog eat everything in his path. Ok by sheer damage and range. Yes, Kog wins on that but we all know that is not what makes people win in 2019. Kog pretty much only has a single function.
> [{quoted}](name=Craft Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9aQpcEVx,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-09-11T06:17:49.496+0000) > > Ok by sheer damage and range. Yes, Kog wins on that but we all know that is not what makes people win in 2019. > Kog pretty much only has a single function. And Kog will usually lose anyways because she can just shield herself and burst him down in half the time. Kog may deal 10K damage in 5 seconds but kaisa only needs to deal the 3000 she already deals to win. plus she doesn't depend on the support to survive and can outplay. Kog just kinda walks around hoping his team will peel effectively.
: Can you PLEASE listen to us
I was playing ranked with a friend that loves TFT (I don't like it too much but I wanted to play because why the hell not). I was in the bottom 4 players but my comp was getting stronger so I had a fairly good chance of getting at least 4th place, I knew my comp was stronger than the 4th place and the remaining bottom 3. I kept getting matched versus the damn 2nd and 1st places over and over again while the bottom spots kept fighting each other so they both lived with 7-6 hp while I dropped from 40 HP to 0 because I didn't get matched versus anyone I had a chance with. and thus losing me the chance at securing a spot. ended up 7th from being 5th because the bottom players kept fighting each other so they kept losing a little HP at a time due to having no units surviving while I got demolished 4 consecutive rounds vs the top 3. It is really annoying and they should honestly make it so you can't possibly play vs the same player twice until you've faced against all the other players at least once.
: Why can't Riot move to a fully transparent MMR ranked system?
I think promo series should only be when you're changing rank (For example Silver 1 to Gold IV) but climbing inside a rank should feel more like progression rather than every step of the way depending on a win streak.
: lol high elo TFT players are w a c k {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
> [{quoted}](name=Dvâ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7yxjqJAs,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-09T14:59:20.092+0000) > > lol high elo TFT players are w a c k > > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} I bet they even build the same items as in TFT LOL
: we already know this. rito are just fucking holding on to the concept of toxicity as a block to the idea. for whatever fucking reason. like they're scared of soloq being fucking good or something.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3aRiuF5v,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-08T17:10:04.628+0000) > > we already know this. > rito are just fucking holding on to the concept of toxicity as a block to the idea. > for whatever fucking reason. > like they're scared of soloq being fucking good or something. With the way you comment, you seem like just the kind of person I would want to avoid in voice chat. Lol.
: I mean, it seems more like your Aurelion Sol was made more with the idea of covering his weakness to melee more than anything.
> [{quoted}](name=BlackKnightJack,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=caKkQ5x7,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-07T22:29:14.776+0000) > > I mean, it seems more like your Aurelion Sol was made more with the idea of covering his weakness to melee more than anything. Which was a weakness the mains made up with skill on the champ, it really makes no sense why do this.
: Tilt loses games the most.
> [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9jn8uOe,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-07T02:34:07.147+0000) > > Tilt loses games the most. Not sure why you're getting downvoted, that was literally the point of the post, the weakest link will lose you the game because they rage and give up.
: Your wrong, because the player who throws the most is the player getting most killed by some broken champion released by riot, so it's actually riot that loses the game cause they can't balance a very easy to balance game.
> [{quoted}](name=Magnesium14,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9jn8uOe,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-09-07T15:28:12.991+0000) > > Your wrong, because the player who throws the most is the player getting most killed by some broken champion released by riot, so it's actually riot that loses the game cause they can't balance a very easy to balance game. Balance usually doesn't have anything to do with why you die, sure, some champs are super busted and can crush you but if you're 0/2, 2 levels behind and you're still playing aggressive vs Riven, it's your fault and not Riot's. Mentality is what really loses games. You can easily make it through the lane without being 0/6 like a lot of people I find do.
Feathermane (EUNE)
: This is what the cretins that think top lane doesn't matter miss: if hashinshin's feeding is losing games, that's called a high impact role - he can outweigh the success of 4 people with his failure.
> [{quoted}](name=Feathermane,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9jn8uOe,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-09-07T05:02:52.337+0000) > > This is what the cretins that think top lane doesn't matter miss: if hashinshin's feeding is losing games, that's called a high impact role - he can outweigh the success of 4 people with his failure. I usually play Renekton top, I can take on 1v2s and be like 3/0 in lane, but that doesn't matter if the Jungler camps bot because they believe that bot is meant to carry no matter what. Like no dude, we take over top, take their turrets then we rotate together everywhere while applying pressure. It's not rocket science. But when the jungler tries to gank the 0/6 bot lane, and then tilts because the game isn't going well, that's when I have a problem
: Tilt loses games the most.
> [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U9jn8uOe,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-07T02:34:07.147+0000) > > Tilt loses games the most. Yep! And it's usually the weak link that tilts the most so they refuse to cooperate unfortunately, and go split the rest of the game or taking gold from all sources instead of helping the people trying to win.
Rioter Comments
: _"Lich Bane's passive now exclusively does 100% of target's max HP in true damage while Karthus is in Death Defied."_
> [{quoted}](name=mosaickle,realm=OCE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=53WM6m0d,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-05T18:35:54.692+0000) > > _"Lich Bane's passive now exclusively does 100% of target's max HP in true damage while Karthus is in Death Defied."_ I can see this actually getting bugged and people actually 1 shotting Karthus with lich bane.
: Eternals Feedback Thread: Set 1 Uniques
So you pay for achievements that don't even reflect the champ's skill cap, but rather what you're already supposed to do. 2 or more enemies caught in Amumu's ult? His E cooldown reduced by taking autos? Like that's shit you do without even trying. And all of this is worth money according to you? This is such a joke and it stopped being funny before you even revealed them. Want to make them successful and exciting? Ask the mains' communities to come up with their own ideas, take feedback, implement it. But things like running with MF's strut? And Teemo is the same. Who even came up with this? Looking at {{champion:412}} for example, Landing hooks? your ult's walls breaking? Allies taking lanterns? That's legit shit you're already supposed to do normally. Why not something like "Allies saved by Thresh by flaying them away in the middle of a dash" This shit is a fucking joke and you know it.
duje (EUNE)
: Aurelion sol rework is so bad
My friend made plenty of posts about not wanting the changes to go through (He has 930K points on him) and he warned people about exactly this, it's not like the changes were gonna make him weak or anything, but they were gonna change him into a burst champion with close to no counterplay that anyone can pick up instead of being a niche champ that the playerbase loves because it rewarded practicing him. But hey, every champion has to be a one shot machine that every 12 year old wants to play, right? why even have over 140 characters in the game if they just want to make assassins? But hey, people complain about Yasuo and Riven for years but they don't move an inch, no one mentions ASol anywhere and Riot is like "WE HAVE TO CHANGE HIM HE IS IN DIRE NEED FOR AN UPDATE"
rujitra (NA)
: It's not a mistake. Danish is not a recognized and supported language in League of Legends. It's no different than if I spammed the "n word" and then claimed "but in my language it means X". Riot does not support Danish - just as Riot does not support thousands of languages that exist in the world. If you wish to discuss whether Riot should add more languages as officially supported ones, that's a different discussion. However, the player's ban was issued based on the officially supported languages for use in League of Legends - none of which have a meaning for the phrase the OP used other than the English one.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GMo5yu5Y,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2019-08-27T18:22:42.096+0000) > > It's not a mistake. > > Danish is not a recognized and supported language in League of Legends. It's no different than if I spammed the "n word" and then claimed "but in my language it means X". > > Riot does not support Danish - just as Riot does not support thousands of languages that exist in the world. If you wish to discuss whether Riot should add more languages as officially supported ones, that's a different discussion. However, the player's ban was issued based on the officially supported languages for use in League of Legends - none of which have a meaning for the phrase the OP used other than the English one. Your argument makes no sense, so If i'm calling people the n word and all sorts of things that would be bannable but in danish, then that means I wouldn't get banned? Well damn do I have some Danish flaming to do in my NA Yolo Queue now! And if I get punished I can just tell them a specialist gave me the green light! He wouldn't lie to me, right?
: Oh yea, we'd totally want this over Invasion, but like Riot said URF brings in tons more players than Invasion/Odyssey!!
> [{quoted}](name=Slim Gragas,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=r0BnUOWN,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-27T22:46:22.409+0000) > > Oh yea, we'd totally want this over Invasion, but like Riot said URF brings in tons more players than Invasion/Odyssey!! But at the same time it makes people quit more on average because they realize how shit the vanilla game is so they feel like not coming back.
Aamano (NA)
: Riot if youre not working on fun player engaging content then WHAT ARE YOU EVEN DOING
> What happened to you riot They're too busy working on the next Lux skin so it makes the most money possible, they don't care about player satisfaction any more.
Rioter Comments
: So how many of y’all quitting over this then? None? K Downvotes aren’t calls to action, hunties. That’s just cognitive dissonance and admitting I’m right
> Downvotes aren’t calls to action, hunties. That’s just cognitive dissonance and admitting I’m right Yeah you tell yourself that buddy lmao
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: The only way she can use that "AoE burst" is when she catches the majority of the enemy team into it. She has to set that up, just like Gnar does. That's like saying that Jinx can get a penta with one ult because it's AoE burst but ignoring the fact that everyone needs to be in the same spot and low on HP for that to happen. >The problem comes when an Assassin has so much impact in teamfights with cc and AoE burst. The "problem" is that the premise of her being an LCS pick is an excuse for people to call her overpowered when in fact any champion that's an LCS pick is already a staple meta pick and can be called the same.
> [{quoted}](name=Tomoe Gozen,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=fhEM4Jn9,comment-id=0001000000030000,timestamp=2019-08-20T22:06:04.980+0000) > > The only way she can use that "AoE burst" is when she catches the majority of the enemy team into it. She has to set that up, just like Gnar does. That's like saying that Jinx can get a penta with one ult because it's AoE burst but ignoring the fact that everyone needs to be in the same spot and low on HP for that to happen. Most of the time she doesn't even need to catch the entire enemy team, just catching the adc is already an extremely big blow to the enemy team, also her stun zones people away, it also deals her execution damage. Jinx getting a penta with ult is as likely as xerath getting a new skin, it will happen at some point, but it's extremely rare. > The "problem" is that the premise of her being an LCS pick is an excuse for people to call her overpowered when in fact any champion that's an LCS pick is already a staple meta pick and can be called the same. She is very strong in organized play and her kit is made for that. she impacts teamfights way too much for an assassin. Also the fact that she's a staple meta pick already means that she's basically top tier, especially in the game's current nature
Tomoe Gozen (EUNE)
: Says the guy who named himself Shaco. Nah, she isn't broken. She's just a combo assassin like Fizz and Zed. If you remove the kill potential from assassins, what's left for them to be played for? They don't have utility and even if they did (like Qiyana's R), do you really think she'd be a viable pick if all there was to her gameplay pattern was to be an ult bot?
> [{quoted}](name=Tomoe Gozen,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=fhEM4Jn9,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-19T19:32:34.489+0000) > > Says the guy who named himself Shaco. > Nah, she isn't broken. She's just a combo assassin like Fizz and Zed. > If you remove the kill potential from assassins, what's left for them to be played for? They don't have utility and even if they did (like Qiyana's R), do you really think she'd be a viable pick if all there was to her gameplay pattern was to be an ult bot? Except that she's an assassin with a glorified Gnar ult that chunks people for half their HP and mechanics in her kit that make it so it's impossible for her to miss her Q (E+Q auto aim) Fizz, on the other hand has a teamfighting ult that in the best scenario will one shot the squishy IF you land it on said squishy. Zed also can only ever one shot a single person and his kit is designed for that. Qiyana literally bursts in an area then picks whoever she wants to kill. The problem comes when an Assassin has so much impact in teamfights with cc and AoE burst.
: How does he land a hook if opponents can freely hide inside their minions? If you let the toggle affect it, it removes a huge amount of safety against his Q. If you don't, his opponents gain all the advantages of being behind minions (safety from his Q, preventing Blitz from running up to them) with none of the downsides (Can still run forward freely and don't have to go around minions to be aggressive, don't get caught up in the middle of the wave and risk being walked up to). There's no way to actually change that and still have it be fair. As much as people hate minion block, it's a necessary evil as long as Blitz's Q and any ability like it (which ranges from {{champion:266}}'s W to {{champion:142}}'s E, with at least a hundred abilities between them) still exists.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PbpJXfZ2,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-19T06:29:32.990+0000) > > How does he land a hook if opponents can freely hide inside their minions? > > If you let the toggle affect it, it removes a huge amount of safety against his Q. If you don't, his opponents gain all the advantages of being behind minions (safety from his Q, preventing Blitz from running up to them) with none of the downsides (Can still run forward freely and don't have to go around minions to be aggressive, don't get caught up in the middle of the wave and risk being walked up to). > > There's no way to actually change that and still have it be fair. As much as people hate minion block, it's a necessary evil as long as Blitz's Q and any ability like it (which ranges from {{champion:266}}'s W to {{champion:142}}'s E, with at least a hundred abilities between them) still exists. If you're playing blitz and they're walking up to you for free then that's not the minion's fault but the Blitz player, Zoe can easily use her bubble alongside R to set it up or use it on someone, same with Aatrox... If you depend on a flaw in the game to land abilities then i'm sorry but maybe it's more your fault than anything.
: That handles Cho'gath and Teemo. What about Blitzcrank?
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PbpJXfZ2,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-08-19T02:36:00.529+0000) > > That handles Cho'gath and Teemo. What about Blitzcrank? No Idea what you mean, he'd still be able to land hooks on opponents like normal, can engage running through his own minions and no problems, I fail to see the issue here
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uOUchTr1,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-08-18T23:43:09.298+0000) > > You literally disproved your own argument, You pay 15$ to be allowed to grind for a prestige skin and unlock shitty missions. it's literally pay to grind. The moment you pay the 15$ you get rewarded with absolutely nothing but rather have to grind your ass off and the reward is that you get to choose what to buy in the end. The paywall isn't the prestige skin, the paywall is for the right to grind. No? The only missions you unlock are for prestige points, yknow the shit you have to pay for already? Also, you do get something, as you get tokens and orbs just for buying the pass. Also, wdym "paywall to grind"? It's not a paywall if it's not something the average player is going to even do or care about.
> [{quoted}](name=ThatShinyPiplup,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uOUchTr1,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-08-19T00:04:53.163+0000) > > No? The only missions you unlock are for prestige points, yknow the shit you have to pay for already? Also, you do get something, as you get tokens and orbs just for buying the pass. Also, wdym "paywall to grind"? It's not a paywall if it's not something the average player is going to even do or care about. You don't get all the missions for the event unless you pay. you only get enough to get some things, nothing else, the pass unlocks every mission and dailies to get tokens everyday to get everything else, plus getting tokens every game to spend on anything else. Pay. To. Grind.
: You can't think of a single reason? Okay, here's three: {{champion:17}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:53}}. **Teemo** because this fucker could literally sit inside a super minion and become actually immune to autos while the super minion was alive. **Cho'gath** because he could just sit on top of a cannon minion to deny it to you, because you'd be physically incapable of attacking it. **Blitzcrank** as representing all champions with a skillshot that can be stopped by minions. Removing allied minion block removes the downsides to hiding behind minions against him and all champions like him - You cannot easily hard-engage through your own minion line. While champions smaller than super minions, larger than cannon minions, and champions with skillshot stopped by minions exist, allied minion block is vital.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PbpJXfZ2,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-17T11:57:18.951+0000) > > You can't think of a single reason? Okay, here's three: > > {{champion:17}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:53}}. > > **Teemo** because this fucker could literally sit inside a super minion and become actually immune to autos while the super minion was alive. > > **Cho'gath** because he could just sit on top of a cannon minion to deny it to you, because you'd be physically incapable of attacking it. > > **Blitzcrank** as representing all champions with a skillshot that can be stopped by minions. Removing allied minion block removes the downsides to hiding behind minions against him and all champions like him - You cannot easily hard-engage through your own minion line. > > While champions smaller than super minions, larger than cannon minions, and champions with skillshot stopped by minions exist, allied minion block is vital. That can easily be fixed by giving pseudo transparency so you can see an outline of units behind champions and viceversa, and learn to use "target champions only" or "Target minions only". There are plenty of ways to fix it without ruining the game's health.
: While I'm not saying Riot isn't making mistakes, what I am saying is this video is biased and loaded as hell. "Event passes are putting a playable aspect of the game behind a paywall" No, that's not at all how that works. No event, NOT A SINGLE ONE, has had it so you couldn't do missions without the pass. You can do missions and earn at least one big thing or multiple little things completely free, just for playing. Passes are only meant for people who wanna blow 15$ who grind a lot to be rewarded for their grinding. There is no "paywall", unless you mean that there's a "paywall" on prestige skins. To which I say, well they're skins, the fuck you expect? "They rarely add content, and when they do it's locked behind a paywall" So besides specifically eternals, what the hell does this even mean? I'm sorry, when was the last time a new champ or patch every 2 weeks costed you money? If you want to critique Riot on their poor choices, that's fine, maybe they'll wake the hell up. But this isn't that, this is a bias charged video made to stir up a mob of people who are already mad about eternals.
> [{quoted}](name=ThatShinyPiplup,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uOUchTr1,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-18T02:37:38.310+0000) > > While I'm not saying Riot isn't making mistakes, what I am saying is this video is biased and loaded as hell. > > "Event passes are putting a playable aspect of the game behind a paywall" > No, that's not at all how that works. No event, NOT A SINGLE ONE, has had it so you couldn't do missions without the pass. You can do missions and earn at least one big thing or multiple little things completely free, just for playing. Passes are only meant for people who wanna blow 15$ who grind a lot to be rewarded for their grinding. There is no "paywall", unless you mean that there's a "paywall" on prestige skins. To which I say, well they're skins, the fuck you expect? > > "They rarely add content, and when they do it's locked behind a paywall" > So besides specifically eternals, what the hell does this even mean? I'm sorry, when was the last time a new champ or patch every 2 weeks costed you money? > > If you want to critique Riot on their poor choices, that's fine, maybe they'll wake the hell up. But this isn't that, this is a bias charged video made to stir up a mob of people who are already mad about eternals. You literally disproved your own argument, You pay 15$ to be allowed to grind for a prestige skin and unlock shitty missions. it's literally pay to grind. The moment you pay the 15$ you get rewarded with absolutely nothing but rather have to grind your ass off and the reward is that you get to choose what to buy in the end. The paywall isn't the prestige skin, the paywall is for the right to grind.
: Vote all you want. Not gonna happen, buddy. No matter how logical and beneficial this suggestion is, making this game better isn't high on the radar at the moment.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkstar Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PbpJXfZ2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-17T02:35:23.514+0000) > > Vote all you want. Not gonna happen, buddy. No matter how logical and beneficial this suggestion is, making this game better isn't high on the radar at the moment. And it will never be high on the radar unless enough people raise awareness of it. That's why I post this :)
: And who, dare I ask, do you think they should hire to work on balance? If you're saying the current balance team is full of third-rate cooks, please feel free to mention whoever the Gordon Ramsay of MOBA balance is. But, knowing already that you can't, let's talk about why throwing more money at this perceived problem would or wouldn't actually work. I'm of the opinion that it wouldn't. Like I said before, having a larger team to disagree and argue about things wouldn't lead to better decisions. And in lieu of hiring someone from another, more successful, more balanced MOBA to work on their game (in other words, someone who doesn't exist), there really isn't another option besides leaving them as-is. Except for maybe leaving the game stagnant for several months, to really give them heaps of data to work with and allow players more than enough time to adjust to a steady state before deciding what needs changing.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2jX9LcRj,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2019-08-17T02:36:49.937+0000) > > And who, dare I ask, do you think they should hire to work on balance? If you're saying the current balance team is full of third-rate cooks, please feel free to mention whoever the Gordon Ramsay of MOBA balance is. > > But, knowing already that you can't, let's talk about why throwing more money at this perceived problem would or wouldn't actually work. > > I'm of the opinion that it wouldn't. Like I said before, having a larger team to disagree and argue about things wouldn't lead to better decisions. And in lieu of hiring someone from another, more successful, more balanced MOBA to work on their game (in other words, someone who doesn't exist), there really isn't another option besides leaving them as-is. > > Except for maybe leaving the game stagnant for several months, to really give them heaps of data to work with and allow players more than enough time to adjust to a steady state before deciding what needs changing. And the fact that you're so shallow as to believe game development is the work of only 1 person is just as silly. I'm not asking for the "messiah" of game balance. But the game really needs changes in their work culture and philosophy. There are a lot of problems, Not only balance-wise, that have solutions that are very obvious, but they always take too long on even the simple tasks, almost like the ones leading fail to efficiently make decisions. A bigger team isn't the solution because of the reason you mentioned, multiple opinions lead to chaos and decisions are hard to make, but a good leader that leads teams into a vision is what is needed. The biggest issue right now in my opinion is that the current vision they're following is to make as much money in the short term as possible by making changes that favor popular things over what would be logically healthier to the game. Take for example Riven, she got a nerf to her E, that is fair, she was an extremely problematic champion, but since she is extremely popular they gave her buffs to make up for it, even though that was still unhealthy for the game, look at her now, she's still an extremely problematic champion. Or Lux, which LS confirmed is getting her shield buffed after her nerfs because of her unhealthy prescence as a support just because her sales were dropping. Most champions that are problematic and popular usually have an easier time with nerfs because they are guaranteed not to get so harshly nerfed because they're extremely popular. Look at Yasuo, he has always been in the top banned champions across the main regions across a lot of ranks, yet still no signs of a mini rework or changes to him in sight in the nearest future. Why? Because it's one of the most popular champions, so they compromise game health for sales. It sucks but it is how it is.
: "Why the actual fuck is the janitor cleaning windows instead of teaching astrophysics?" People have different jobs. The people in charge of things like this do not make balance decisions.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2jX9LcRj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-15T21:53:08.169+0000) > > "Why the actual fuck is the janitor cleaning windows instead of teaching astrophysics?" > > People have different jobs. The people in charge of things like this do not make balance decisions. Yeah but money that goes into funding projects is being spent on projects that people either don't want them or that are extremely bad executed. it's not as simple as "oh different teams" It's the fact that they keep putting effort in things that aren't as important. It's as if you went to a restaurant and you only had a team of like 10 designers that work on making the plates look nice and all, but 1 3rd rate cook that makes meals that taste terrible. The problem lies in that the restaurant will have bad reviews because of it.
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Levıathan (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Frost Hellfire,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E9Mc2Oqb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-15T13:01:53.989+0000) > > Custom map skins would be lit. Ya know, since they've already turned their backs on the custom skin community. While I totally agree, the maps would be amazing and I wanted to include them on the list too, but they could have an unfortunate turn and cause some unfair advantages like seeing the abilities better, or the opposite, where you can't see the ability.
> [{quoted}](name=Levıathan,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=E9Mc2Oqb,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-15T14:43:09.748+0000) > > While I totally agree, the maps would be amazing and I wanted to include them on the list too, but they could have an unfortunate turn and cause some unfair advantages like seeing the abilities better, or the opposite, where you can't see the ability. But only you would see the map skin you choose, besides, fixing that wouldn't be too hard as it is changing a bit of the color scheme of certain abilities as it would be very specific cases. It really isn't too hard.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IojTHu2x,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T02:22:40.722+0000) > > But it will when eternals come out! :D Holy fuck I can’t believe I have to explain this. ETERNALS ARE NOT NECESSARY TO PROGRESS IN THE GAME. YOU STILL GET FULL GAMEPLAY WITHOUT BUYING ETERNALS. ALL YOU GET FROM ETERNALS IS A GLORIFIED COUNTER ON WHAT BUTTON YOUVE PRESSED. Like I know how r%%%%%ed it is to put something like Eternals behind a pay wall, but they way the boards have reacted makes it look like you NEED eternals to play the game. You don’t.
> [{quoted}](name=Snowplosion,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IojTHu2x,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-15T17:02:38.582+0000) > > Holy fuck I can’t believe I have to explain this. ETERNALS ARE NOT NECESSARY TO PROGRESS IN THE GAME. YOU STILL GET FULL GAMEPLAY WITHOUT BUYING ETERNALS. ALL YOU GET FROM ETERNALS IS A GLORIFIED COUNTER ON WHAT BUTTON YOUVE PRESSED. > > Like I know how r%%%%%ed it is to put something like Eternals behind a pay wall, but they way the boards have reacted makes it look like you NEED eternals to play the game. You don’t. Haven't you considered the posibility YOU are the one assuming people treat it as if it was a necessary feature? No, no one has ever expressed it as if it was mandatory, and yes, it is a form of progression just like how mastery is another form of progression. Does it affect your progress in the game? Not at all. do you still get the exact same gameplay by having high mastery? Yes! Then why is one of these basic features locked behind a pay wall? It's as if you got charged at mcdonalds for straws so you can drink. Or even more dumb yet, imagine them charging you so the box your burger comes in has a different design. It makes no sense.
: > [{quoted}](name=Tailypo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PnBVAN3H,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-14T15:10:45.597+0000) > > What a scam LUL For only $200,000 plus interest on your student loans, you can get a piece of paper that says you went to this institution! \#exclusive \#prestigious
> [{quoted}](name=How Do You Meta,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PnBVAN3H,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-14T15:12:19.554+0000) > > For only $200,000 plus interest on your student loans, you can get a piece of paper that says you went to this institution! > \#exclusive > \#prestigious Hey, you get rewarded with rarity you know?
: progression is RANKED so yeah you lose sorry to break it to you.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IojTHu2x,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-15T02:41:18.733+0000) > > progression is RANKED > so yeah > you lose > sorry to break it to you. Achievements are a form of progression. Sorry to break it to you.
: Progression doesn't cost...
> [{quoted}](name=saphireflame123,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IojTHu2x,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-15T00:10:54.607+0000) > > Progression doesn't cost... But it will when eternals come out! :D
Sukishoo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sebastit7d,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WTUA5fly,comment-id=00060002,timestamp=2019-08-13T21:26:03.504+0000) > > They're not going to buy it, but you can express how you're against their scummy tactics. That's kind of the whole point of forums, not just lick Riot's boots. No, most of this forum just whines uncontrollably. It's why many of Riot doesn't even bother to come here cause no one actually puts thought into most of what is said here. It's the same nonsense over and over. Like the OP, there's no structure here, nothing to actually build a real discussion on cause they didn't take time to write out something that has any kind of thought or depth to it. So why would Riot care? Why would anyone actually take this seriously? They just said "We want this" which actually translates to "I don't like it". Cause "We" is another thing highly overused here, as people continually think that WE are all the SAME, and that WE can't think for ourselves. I for one find it to be an interesting idea, maybe no executed in a great way, but that's what it is. Big companies aren't going to listen to a very small group as that is what the forum is anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WTUA5fly,comment-id=000600020000,timestamp=2019-08-13T21:32:28.824+0000) > > No, most of this forum just whines uncontrollably. It's why many of Riot doesn't even bother to come here cause no one actually puts thought into most of what is said here. It's the same nonsense over and over. Like the OP, there's no structure here, nothing to actually build a real discussion on cause they didn't take time to write out something that has any kind of thought or depth to it. So why would Riot care? Why would anyone actually take this seriously? > > They just said "We want this" which actually translates to "I don't like it". Cause "We" is another thing highly overused here, as people continually think that WE are all the SAME, and that WE can't think for ourselves. I for one find it to be an interesting idea, maybe no executed in a great way, but that's what it is. Big companies aren't going to listen to a very small group as that is what the forum is anyway. I would agree with you when it comes to promoting reasonable discussion. But when you come and your argument is "Don't like it then don't buy it", you can't expect anyone to want to try and reason with you as you clearly only care about the positive opinions that you agree with it. Also have you tried thinking why it is that people are complaining about this system? It's literally an achievement system, that concept, I love because I am an achievement hunter in games and a completionist so it adds a nice touch to the game. But when it's a system that Riot themselves go "If you want us to keep developing this basic feature that games usually have, you have to pay for it." that's when I don't support it. It's not even expensive, but not worth money from the players.
: people buy it, just like they bought the little legends. so whatever complains you got don't matter.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7JZpAz3Z,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-13T17:43:38.549+0000) > > people buy it, just like they bought the little legends. > so whatever complains you got don't matter. Except that Little legends are a cosmetic that makes sense since it's main purpose is to look nice like a skin. Eternals are achievements meant to show skill, time and effort put into getting them, there's no reason to put it behind a paywall, makes absolutely no sense.
Sukishoo (NA)
: If you don't like it you don't have to buy it. Hello? No one is forcing anything on you.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WTUA5fly,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-13T18:04:34.130+0000) > > If you don't like it you don't have to buy it. Hello? No one is forcing anything on you. They're not going to buy it, but you can express how you're against their scummy tactics. That's kind of the whole point of forums, not just lick Riot's boots.
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