: Can't tell if your serious or just copying this thread. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/FwZJzflQ-ive-put-in-a-request-for-riot-to-delete-my-account-just-wanted-to-say-goodbye?comment=0004
> [{quoted}](name=Automated Riven,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fUWN5WNu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-20T03:37:14.945+0000) > > Can't tell if your serious or just copying this thread. > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/FwZJzflQ-ive-put-in-a-request-for-riot-to-delete-my-account-just-wanted-to-say-goodbye?comment=0004 Bro, there's like 3~ or so people deleting their account. They're not all copying eachother, this game is just frustrating to play lately with how Riot has been doing shit.
: To put it bluntly, all MOBAs have (and always will) suffer from both a heavy dose of Dunning-Kruger and Personal Bias. Assuming people don't know, Dunning-Kruger is an effect on one's mental state where they perceive themselves as greater than they actually are, be it in a field, skill, talent or otherwise. While you always have people in games, MOBAs are especially different because you play a game with 4 other people who can have an affect on your gameplay. While it's not to say that you're ALWAYS at fault, a lot of the time the initial reaction is to see who is to blame. It's far easier to say "This fucking Leona is 0-3 she's why we're losing" than it is to go "I got caught out several times and Leona died to save me". This causes players to think they're far better than they actually are and that the rank they're at isn't deserved. The personal bias comes into place because just as dunning-kruger causes people to perceive themselves as greater, people also don't like the idea that they're the cause of a loss. This is especially true in league and other online games with constant changes and patches: If you end up on a losing streak, the common idea is to blame the patch/company/version/etc. Again, in some cases this can be right but the default seems to fall into finding a person or change to blame. TL;DR: A lot of people think they're way better than they actually are and deserve to be (Be it at a pro level or just a high ranked) and get frustrated with the idea that others are holding them back, be it teammates or RIot.
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mc2EPb87,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-06-20T03:05:36.254+0000) > > To put it bluntly, all MOBAs have (and always will) suffer from both a heavy dose of Dunning-Kruger and Personal Bias. > > Assuming people don't know, Dunning-Kruger is an effect on one's mental state where they perceive themselves as greater than they actually are, be it in a field, skill, talent or otherwise. While you always have people in games, MOBAs are especially different because you play a game with 4 other people who can have an affect on your gameplay. While it's not to say that you're ALWAYS at fault, a lot of the time the initial reaction is to see who is to blame. It's far easier to say "This fucking Leona is 0-3 she's why we're losing" than it is to go "I got caught out several times and Leona died to save me". This causes players to think they're far better than they actually are and that the rank they're at isn't deserved. > > The personal bias comes into place because just as dunning-kruger causes people to perceive themselves as greater, people also don't like the idea that they're the cause of a loss. This is especially true in league and other online games with constant changes and patches: If you end up on a losing streak, the common idea is to blame the patch/company/version/etc. Again, in some cases this can be right but the default seems to fall into finding a person or change to blame. > > TL;DR: A lot of people think they're way better than they actually are and deserve to be (Be it at a pro level or just a high ranked) and get frustrated with the idea that others are holding them back, be it teammates or RIot. This game is definitely biased to throw you into a 50/50 winrate. My friend got placed in G3, skipped div to G1, got into Plat with like an 83% winrate (he's been a Diamond player, as he just made it back into Diamond this morning) and at some point his winrate went to like 55%. It's not that he played worse, since his scores were nearly always on-point. You can't always carry 4 fuckwits that are 2-7, 1-9, 4-6, and 0-60. If your tank dies in .5 milliseconds because he got shit on in lane consistently and you're not really a lane that can roam to the tank's lane to help him out, how is that anyone but the tank's fault? Stop projecting your idea of DK on this game and check facts first. While it has been right before, it's not correct right now due to how fucked up games are right now. DotA is a game you can hard-carry if you're fed enough. League, if you're not playing a certain champ against a certain team while being fed as shit, it wont matter if you're fed (ESPECIALLY IF YOUR TEAM IS FEEDING). Someone like Fiora can escape cc invoked ganks easier than let's say...Yasuo with no creeps around. Not saying Fiora's op but...
Nenthos (NA)
: So done with this game. Tired of change.
I think the game started downhill with their excuse of a Ranked system known as 'Dynamic Queue'...it placed too many people in the wrong ELO and that's what confused ranked games a lot. In general, normals are influence by ranked because all games are balanced around Ranked play (unless there is no ranked play)...they just changed people for change and added way too much damage in the game over time. Conqueror was their latest stupid addition that makes champions have an abundance of true damage, especially if it's already in their kit (someone like Fiora). AND it gives a relatively high amount of AD even at lv1...
: Is Lissandra considered strong right now?
She needs some changes here and there. E starts up too slow and Q could use a longer range so it can actually poke comfortably in teamfights...maybe her passive can be updated too, but otherwise, she's a solid champion.
: These can at least be somewhat okay~ let's just not bring up fucking {{champion:25}} Q into the mix okay!!!
> [{quoted}](name=Hencho101,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w73iRiL0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-09T04:51:22.310+0000) > > These can at least be somewhat okay~ let's just not bring up fucking {{champion:25}} Q into the mix okay!!! This is one of the worst offenders, lmao.
: Anyone feel the same about top lane recently?
They needa delete cancer champs from Top. Or just nerf their kits. I'm tired of Renekton and Tryndamere as staple picks to cheeze the game.
Seenan (NA)
: Can we get rid of that matchmaking algo that puts lower ELOs on your team during promos?
Downvote me all you want, but you're probably the ones feeding for the loss.
Rioter Comments
: Y people keep spreading that myth that conq deals any dmg. The large part is a simple 20% penetration. Nothing more and nothing less. Somehow people act like you get extra 20% true dmg of the dmg you deal but you just deal 20% of your dmg in true dmg. The 10-30 AD isn't really worth it. There is a reason why most people still go PTA over conq. It really just synergizes well with trynds random crits and crit in general. Jax who then deals three different instances of dmg, physical, magic and true dmg. Idk i guess yasuo was kinda good with conq and that's pretty much it. Darius because his bleed keeps it up.
> [{quoted}](name=GayFluffyUnicorn,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rG0aB1FK,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2018-06-01T22:55:13.229+0000) > > Y people keep spreading that myth that conq deals any dmg. > The large part is a simple 20% penetration. Nothing more and nothing less. > Somehow people act like you get extra 20% true dmg of the dmg you deal but you just deal 20% of your dmg in true dmg. > The 10-30 AD isn't really worth it. > There is a reason why most people still go PTA over conq. > It really just synergizes well with trynds random crits and crit in general. > Jax who then deals three different instances of dmg, physical, magic and true dmg. > Idk i guess yasuo was kinda good with conq and that's pretty much it. > Darius because his bleed keeps it up. 20% of 700 damage crits is 140 damage. You're doing 140 damage that can't be resisted against by anything other than health or shield. The other 560 damage cuts to maybe 250 damage after reductions. 250+140 not including Conqueror AD. We're not saying it 'gives' damage other than the AD, but it lets him use his build/damage more effectively for sure.
Nankyoku (EUNE)
: I'd argue that in solo queue the team who tilts less wins, not the one with "better" picks. Your mileage may vary
> [{quoted}](name=Nankyoku,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ef51zA1q,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-01T06:32:38.332+0000) > > I'd argue that in solo queue the team who tilts less wins, not the one with "better" picks. > Your mileage may vary Yeah, the less tilted team usually wins but why would we want to add on kids that are butthurt that their champs were accidentally/intentionally banned? I got banned on Irelia once and I went Darius instead that game and we did just fine.
Rioter Comments
: Can we please make armour feel impactful again?
Fetch Malphite. Hear them cry unless they have Conqueror. Seriously. There was 4 ADs last game, and I picked up Malphite. The only way they could ever kill me is with Darius, considering he had Conqueror, and TBC (along with his E armor pen). Otherwise, hi 200+ armor at like level 10.
: If you're sitting around a 50% winrate, then ideally matchmaking is doing its job and you're at the spot where you currently deserve to be. At this point, you should take a step back and evaluate what it is you need to do to improve yourself. Whether it's warding more so that your team has more vision and less excuses about getting ganged unawares, or taking the lead to push for objectives, discover something that will push you even further beyond that can be taken into every game moving forward.
> [{quoted}](name=PrinnyLopunny,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-05-26T14:40:16.764+0000) > > If you're sitting around a 50% winrate, then ideally matchmaking is doing its job and you're at the spot where you currently deserve to be. > > At this point, you should take a step back and evaluate what it is you need to do to improve yourself. Whether it's warding more so that your team has more vision and less excuses about getting ganged unawares, or taking the lead to push for objectives, discover something that will push you even further beyond that can be taken into every game moving forward. I could be doing the exact same things and still manage to win games because of how coin-tossy this game is.
: For you to be 18-9 as irelia, their toplaner must be useless too, so saying the game is a 4v6 is just bullshit. Also, the same situation that allows you to be fed, allows Corki to be fed. If you can't 1v1 the enemy fed as your team's fed, it's your fault.
> [{quoted}](name=FeelsXinMan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2018-05-26T19:55:48.909+0000) > > For you to be 18-9 as irelia, their toplaner must be useless too, so saying the game is a 4v6 is just bullshit. > > Also, the same situation that allows you to be fed, allows Corki to be fed. If you can't 1v1 the enemy fed as your team's fed, it's your fault. Incorrect. An ADC easily gets peel. As Irelia, I pretty much have to go in and Corki can disengage anyway. Sure I can kill him in a 1v1, but it's not like he ever fought me in a 1v1.
Cocho (NA)
: What about the games where you didnt deserve to win, but your team carried you so you won anyway. https://gyazo.com/f7de0b3c503d74076cd60e666b6b4616
> [{quoted}](name=Cocho,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-05-26T17:53:56.121+0000) > > What about the games where you didnt deserve to win, but your team carried you so you won anyway. > > https://gyazo.com/f7de0b3c503d74076cd60e666b6b4616 The maybe once every few games compared to the majority of my games? I'd **GLADLY** switch to losing those games I'm supposed to lose vs games I should be winning.
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: It's so sad. I lost any will I had to climb higher.
> [{quoted}](name=Snowman Arc,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-26T16:42:14.428+0000) > > It's so sad. I lost any will I had to climb higher. I just stopped playing once I hit the point that if I lost one more game, I'd demote back to gold.
Theorex (NA)
: Can we talk about displacements and knock ups?
I think Tenacity is one of my most common boots because of how long certain CCs are (2+ second cc makes me wanna buy it because you can easily die in that 2 seconds).
TKM Axe (EUW)
: u go a losing streak u go on a winning streak. u go on a win/lose/win/lose streak its normal just need to deal with it
> [{quoted}](name=TKM Axe,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-26T11:35:27.785+0000) > > u go a losing streak u go on a winning streak. u go on a win/lose/win/lose streak its normal just need to deal with it Not really. It's more like, you go on a winning streak...Riot MM throws you into a loss streak for even more losses. If you're already on a loss streak, you pretty much stay there until you win at least one game. Then the coin toss happens.
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: This means that Riot's matchmaking works well. Aka one game your team gets the ret... I mean monkeys, the next game, the enemy gets them.
> [{quoted}](name=Snowman Arc,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-26T14:20:08.094+0000) > > This means that Riot's matchmaking works well. Aka one game your team gets the ret... I mean monkeys, the next game, the enemy gets them. That's not how mm should be. That's pretty much describing a matchmaking system where you never climb, despite how good or bad you do in a game. The game's balance is so out of wack that legit, if I'm 18-9 Irelia, it wont matter because our adc is 4-12 and keeps getting 2 shot by a 15-5 Corki because he keeps trying to frontline. It's a 4v6 at that point and there's no way we can peel the dumb Sivir if he keeps doing what he does..
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: I went on a 17 game winning streak to get to plat 3 60 lp, then lost like 14 in a row and dropped back to plat 5. Good shit.
> [{quoted}](name=Snowman Arc,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-05-26T14:20:43.365+0000) > > I went on a 17 game winning streak to get to plat 3 60 lp, then lost like 14 in a row and dropped back to plat 5. Good shit. This actually happened to me two seasons ago. I was on a huge winning streak and then dead-dropped from P3 to P5.
: This was happening to me as well back in season 3. No matter how hard I try, I just couldn't get out of gold V. I always blamed other lane for feeding or picking off meta champs. Now I think about it, I was just not good enough. If you place a diamond player in silver or gold, he will have no problem climbing out of that elo. He just have more experience and skill comparing to other player in that tier. My suggestion is take a break from league, watch some guide, try to improve your understanding of the game and focus on 1 or 2 champion. Hope you reach the tier you want soon !
> [{quoted}](name=LoveSizeOcean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-26T04:56:09.866+0000) > > This was happening to me as well back in season 3. No matter how hard I try, I just couldn't get out of gold V. I always blamed other lane for feeding or picking off meta champs. Now I think about it, I was just not good enough. If you place a diamond player in silver or gold, he will have no problem climbing out of that elo. He just have more experience and skill comparing to other player in that tier. My suggestion is take a break from league, watch some guide, try to improve your understanding of the game and focus on 1 or 2 champion. Hope you reach the tier you want soon ! I've gotten out of gold 2-3 times before, that's not really an issue, but this season is so fucked up in terms of balance that I'm having trouble this time around.
Toppien (NA)
: league of flipcoins {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
> [{quoted}](name=Toppien,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QF8Kbxdn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-26T04:17:25.909+0000) > > league of flipcoins > > {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}} It's gotten silly. If we're winning one game, then that means someone afked on their team or their champs weren't the fotm champs that usually have more agency/overall power on a lane. If we lose, one of ours is afk or we just got dumpstered/it was 4v5 because someone was useless on our team/kept feeding. I don't feel like I'm winning cause I'm skilled some of the time, but I do feel because some champs are just better than others.
Rioter Comments
KoKoboto (NA)
: Elise is in the patch notes again
If they wanna buff her extra stats, they should revert her 1.6 second at level 1..
Rioter Comments
: Ask the other stupid lane bullies that are also hyper carries {{champion:75}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:67}} level 3 onward
> [{quoted}](name=PopcornBunni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wg3wEgjL,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-12T03:08:11.251+0000) > > Ask the other stupid lane bullies that are also hyper carries > > {{champion:75}} > {{champion:51}} > {{champion:164}} > {{champion:10}} > {{champion:110}} > {{champion:67}} level 3 onward Nasus isn't a lane bully until maybe level 6+ when he has ok stacks.
: How do I end as pantheon
Keep killing people and snowballing really, then you can just push normally.
: You are messing with the hornets nets on the forums with Ahri. Honestly, she is probably one of the most overloaded champs in the game but riot wont do anything about her because she is like lee sin and people dont care as long as she is op so they can play her.
> [{quoted}](name=HaIlMonitor,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5YlEUFyN,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-07T04:55:58.594+0000) > > You are messing with the hornets nets on the forums with Ahri. > > Honestly, she is probably one of the most overloaded champs in the game but riot wont do anything about her because she is like lee sin and people dont care as long as she is op so they can play her. I know I'm in the hornets nest of Ahri mains. She's been lowkey op for a while, but only came to light when some people played her in LCS. Dare I say, she's nearly as overloaded as Lee Sin. Sustains well, less mobility, a longer range stun (for a longer duration)...and much more damage. I'm glad for the movement speed to be deleted off her Q, but it hasn't done much except for make her less safe. She still sustains, has 3 dashes (and probably flash), and a ~2s charm. I need tenacity boots just for her because that charm is enough to die, easily.
Rioter Comments
: Changing how LP is gained and taken away.
Everyone's been saying this for several years. Riot just doesn't have any of it.
: Possible Lux Buff Solution Until Rework
Listen, until they nerf some of Lux's ridiculous safety, don't you call for buffs.
Jivewolf (NA)
: Please Revert GLP
Yeah, I'd like old GLP back. As you can see, Aurelion Sol's winrate hasn't taken a hit at all because of the GLP nerf. It's not the item.
Rioter Comments
Felvyne (EUW)
: Probably Riot doesn't know how to balance ADCs without going back to S2-3 when they needed 3 items and a half to be relevant and without doing major changes. Imo, they need the last: get rid of critical dmg, focus on their core aspects as hit towers from far and bring down tanks. Actually, that should be the main different between ADCs and APCs, against who are they better (as generalicing, as Ryze would be an APC better against tanks and Draven an ADC against squishies)
> [{quoted}](name=Felvyne,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tNcGpN5K,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-04-22T15:00:48.006+0000) > > Probably Riot doesn't know how to balance ADCs without going back to S2-3 when they needed 3 items and a half to be relevant and without doing major changes. Imo, they need the last: get rid of critical dmg, focus on their core aspects as hit towers from far and bring down tanks. Actually, that should be the main different between ADCs and APCs, against who are they better (as generalicing, as Ryze would be an APC better against tanks and Draven an ADC against squishies) This is how it should be. 3 items, not 1.5 to start doing stupid damage.
: I love how you’re getting downvoted when Kalista is sitting at a 43% win rate and Tahm at a 47%, whereas both Leona and Jhin have higher win rates and pick rates.
> [{quoted}](name=Disembark,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YVrxuiMl,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-04-22T17:20:05.564+0000) > > I love how you’re getting downvoted when Kalista is sitting at a 43% win rate and Tahm at a 47%, whereas both Leona and Jhin have higher win rates and pick rates. Why're you concentrating on winrates? In coordinated teams, Tahm shits on most supports cause he has a 'get out of jail free' card for his carry. That's why he's still viable in LCS.
: This I think has pretty much been Warwick's balance in a nutshell. The champion has a few very notable technical issues (e.g. W bugs, poor Q responsiveness, excessively thin ult hitbox, etc.), all of which deserve to be fixed, yet those haven't been addressed likely because fixing them would buff him, and he's already strong enough as is. Personally, I hate this balancing philosophy, and I would rather adjust a champion's raw power in order to fix their bugs, rather than leave them in a state where they're both unbalanced and partially dysfunctional. In Warwick's case, he's generally healthy and not too important in pro play, which is likely also why he isn't really being focused on, but even so, he deserves both nerfs and improvements to some of his tech.
> [{quoted}](name=Teridax68,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NPpEenub,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-04-22T00:38:42.210+0000) > > This I think has pretty much been Warwick's balance in a nutshell. The champion has a few very notable technical issues (e.g. W bugs, poor Q responsiveness, excessively thin ult hitbox, etc.), all of which deserve to be fixed, yet those haven't been addressed likely because fixing them would buff him, and he's already strong enough as is. Personally, I hate this balancing philosophy, and I would rather adjust a champion's raw power in order to fix their bugs, rather than leave them in a state where they're both unbalanced and partially dysfunctional. In Warwick's case, he's generally healthy and not too important in pro play, which is likely also why he isn't really being focused on, but even so, he deserves both nerfs and improvements to some of his tech. -> Syndra
: Is anyone having fun?
Nah. Too many whiny kids in this ELO that can't win their lane without jungle interference and then split push all game/not contributing because they die while trying to splitpush. Also, Conqueror was a dumb idea/needs nerfs.
: I think it should only count in combat with champions, but the it should be two seconds instead of 4. I protested this when it came out. But, overall the rune is fine. People see 1k true damage and vastly overestimate how much bonus damage they actually took.
> [{quoted}](name=Automated Riven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6ZIfEgRe,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-18T03:01:42.445+0000) > > I think it should only count in combat with champions, but the it should be two seconds instead of 4. I protested this when it came out. But, overall the rune is fine. People see 1k true damage and vastly overestimate how much bonus damage they actually took. Nerfs are definitely needed. Too many people get disgusting when they get even a slight lead.
Rioter Comments
xelaker (NA)
: and a large number of adults that don't care to throw away money for a game... hell, children are more likely to stay with the game edit: rofl all the 19 year olds getting ruffled that their sweet min wage job isn't a barrier to having to deal with youth.
> [{quoted}](name=xelaker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uF97WELO,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-03-25T15:46:08.292+0000) > > and a large number of adults that don't care to throw away money for a game... hell, children are more likely to stay with the game See: Fortnite, vs PUBG.
: More than actual children, it's man-children. Throwing a monthly subscription on the game won't do much, I'm afraid. With a game as large as this, there is always bound to be an extremely toxic part of the community.
> [{quoted}](name=An Enemy Sutando,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uF97WELO,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2018-03-25T16:00:17.182+0000) > > More than actual children, it's man-children. Throwing a monthly subscription on the game won't do much, I'm afraid. With a game as large as this, there is always bound to be an extremely toxic part of the community. Dunno why you're downvoted, you're pretty much right.
Shock16 (NA)
: Should i buy champions that fit my role only?
I agree with the other posts. One in each role. My (personal) recommendation is Leona support. The rest is preference since I'd prob be picking fotms or my favourites as suggestions.
: When does this change?
A non-official area to see a (usually decently accurate) estimate of your mmr is na.op.gg. Search your name. I searched yours and your MMR is slightly above avg for your Div/LP.
AceGeo (NA)
: Drakes
Infernal Drakes, if there's one, there's usually 2-3 total. For other dragons, it varies all the time. Riot wants Infernal Drakes to be snowbally.
: Most of these changes are for other mid laners. You do realize almost all of this community is silver/bronze and don't spend time on the game. I understand that most of these changes are just experimental, but what you are doing is making all LeBlanc players not want to play this game anymore. How are you going to make me fully relearn this champion for the third time? You have better take more than just 'A couple weeks' to figure out these changes. I really believe you need to put yourself in a leblanc players shoes aswell, and not just the opponents.
> [{quoted}](name=TC BlackFox,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=g3irv9JI,comment-id=00ac,timestamp=2018-03-09T04:31:10.138+0000) > > Most of these changes are for other mid laners. You do realize almost all of this community is silver/bronze and don't spend time on the game. I understand that most of these changes are just experimental, but what you are doing is making all LeBlanc players not want to play this game anymore. How are you going to make me fully relearn this champion for the third time? You have better take more than just 'A couple weeks' to figure out these changes. I really believe you need to put yourself in a leblanc players shoes aswell, and not just the opponents. 'Relearn for the 3rd time' lol, it's essentially a nerfed pre-rework Leblanc. There's no learning, just readjusting.
Zavion (EUW)
: Every time i get good at LeBlanc - this being the 3rd time since 2 big changes - Riot see fit to fiddle with her. Please stop. What specifically is wrong with LeBlanc at the moment? She doesn't seem too weak, nor too strong, and she has a unique place that isn't performed by any other champion. I cannot see the point in messing with her again.
> [{quoted}](name=Zavion,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=g3irv9JI,comment-id=0095,timestamp=2018-03-07T20:55:51.396+0000) > > Every time i get good at LeBlanc - this being the 3rd time since 2 big changes - Riot see fit to fiddle with her. Please stop. > What specifically is wrong with LeBlanc at the moment? She doesn't seem too weak, nor too strong, and she has a unique place that isn't performed by any other champion. I cannot see the point in messing with her again. She's in a current state where buffing her in any way breaks her. They had to nerf her about 5~ times after rework to where she is now.
Rioter Comments
tieger05 (OCE)
: Can Lissandra get a buff already?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/AusIgHH0-liss-ever-gonna-get-a-more-meaningful-update I recommended her E speed increase or Q range increase. Or both. If they don't wanna touch her damage, at least add QOL.
yeulx (NA)
: i also wouldnt mind a little Q range increase for lissandra... its range is a bit weak for lane poke.. let alone the Q splash is sometimes non existant in teamfights
> [{quoted}](name=yeulx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AusIgHH0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-24T07:30:29.316+0000) > > i also wouldnt mind a little Q range increase for lissandra... its range is a bit weak for lane poke.. let alone the Q splash is sometimes non existant in teamfights This could also be nice, since the Q range is pretty low unless it hits something first.
Crett (NA)
: i used to main trundle, but one game against lissandra made me swear off him for fear of ever experiencing that again lol
> [{quoted}](name=Crett,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AusIgHH0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-24T07:24:30.637+0000) > > i used to main trundle, but one game against lissandra made me swear off him for fear of ever experiencing that again lol If I'm ever top Liss and the melee doesn't have some sort of gap closer, I can usually make their life miserable as Liss. But that's mostly all I can do. The only time I ever felt at a loss of control was fighting a D3 Irelia with her cc reduction and base movement speed of +20.
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