: Hey Junglers, let me explain to you why top laners are always so toxic (explaining; not excusing it)
I've lost so many games trying to help, even just slightly pressure for my losing top laner. I don't just roam around the map jerking it. I have to be at places. At the right time. To gank or counter gank for lanes that will win for us. Reset to sustain my hp and mana. I have to align my timing with camp respawns and objective control so the level 4 shyv doesn't sneak a fire drag while I'm top uhhh "showing myself" to your laner. I used to top lane. I understand the struggle. That's why I always ganked for my top laner. But helping a losing top lane has resulted in a loss 100% of the time. Back off, lose exp, lose cs, lose tower. You'll catch back up on the exp. You lost lane anyway, so you don't need cs; you're going full tank. I know this because this is what I do when I top lane and it improves my winrate by so much to just a 3 level 60 cs over me 2/0 Fiora who can't touch the rest of my team because they're fed too and she isn't 6/1. Stop fucking feeding
Rioter Comments
: ... Different development teams.
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jMG8BLAE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-18T23:43:59.468+0000) > > ... Different development teams. You actually thought people were going to buy this Double Speak line
: I would rather be autofilled support than jungle.
Just had the worst nightmare scenario where all lanes perma pushed to enemy towers all game so I couldn't gank for them while getting counter doved or ganked and dying over and over again. It took about the third time seeing enemy Renek stun my top laner under his tower for two shots then a kill before my top tp's back to do it all over again that I finally spiritually gave up on jungling. It's been years since I was a support main but fuck the jungle.
Rioter Comments
: Riot doesn't, provided you report them. Their game will be reviewed and if they deserve punishment, depending on where they stand in the punishment tiers, will be punished. Defending yourself is muting the people flaming, retaliating is different. Fun fact. 1 report in a game as the same effect as 9.
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SephAgro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BXrgXZNI,comment-id=00010004,timestamp=2018-05-13T08:27:17.180+0000) > > I'm Lebanese and this is true Eh...ana mane 3aref eno fi shi hek...ana walla mara sheyef wahad y2ul "ana min Lebnen!" ela eza wahad se2alo men wen howe. Aslan lama tehke Arabic la wahad, bi ya3ref deghre eno enta Lebanese. Saraha hayda shi new to me. Shu aslak enta bi lebnen?
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BXrgXZNI,comment-id=000100040000,timestamp=2018-05-13T11:52:06.952+0000) > > Eh...ana mane 3aref eno fi shi hek...ana walla mara sheyef wahad y2ul "ana min Lebnen!" ela eza wahad se2alo men wen howe. > Aslan lama tehke Arabic la wahad, bi ya3ref deghre eno enta Lebanese. Saraha hayda shi new to me. > Shu aslak enta bi lebnen? ambali ani tmanyik beeh bark
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: The problem with silver elo is how brainless the players in there are, at least most of them. They never listen, they don't understand what a good play consists of. You might be hard carrying one game, but they can flame you in the game because you stole the blue buff or something. You can be splitpushing and taking a top lane inhibitor, asking your team to just waveclear, and then they start ??? pinging you, because they engaged a 4v5 and lost and ask for reports. Literally, silver elo is just such a bad experience to play at, if you are not smurfing. A low gold - silver player will have a bad time, because it will be hard for them to solo carry a game there. So many brainless people.
I almost always pre mute all players in Silver and saw my winrate go up 25%. It got me out to Gold. Imagine a section of players that are sooo bad that just muting them alone spikes your winrate. Truly amazing ELO
: Silver is so stressful.
It's been said again and again by challenger level players (because small brains judge arguments by elo so you have to play along). Silver is truly ELO hell. Top 10 posts on this board of all time is a challenger player admitting silver is the most frustrating and random ELO. Still, you've got a horde of troglodytes on youtube blaming players for being in silver hurr durr its where you belong.
: It's true what they say. A Lebanese will _always_ have to let you know they're Lebanese.
> [{quoted}](name=Kuronii Lumiira,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BXrgXZNI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-12T21:29:57.120+0000) > > It's true what they say. A Lebanese will _always_ have to let you know they're Lebanese. I'm Lebanese and this is true
: I just finished a 10 game chat restriction for calling someone a troll. In my restricted games I was sworn at, called a retard, a slut, and much worse. Hey Riot - You need to penalize the harassed victims who defend themselves? Fine Riot. FINE. But take the time to read the log and HAMMER the initiators of toxic discourse.
I'm so sick and tired of Riot allowing provocateurs to get away with harrassment. God help you if you defend yourself. Duo squad flames me all game. Respond with stfu. Chat restriction because of course they dogpile report me.
: Price increases
> This gives other classes and positions more influence in matches where neither marksmen became obscenely fed in lane, moving us away from a bot-centric 'coin flip' meta. Oh yes baby
: Marksman changes coming to PBE in the next couple days
> (As an aside, we've heard questions about the level of influence supports have on the game. The marksman issues outlined above need to be addressed regardless of the state of supports, though.) Thank you. That is really nice to hear from you. Allot of people, for good reason, believe there is a sort of willful deflection going on for the issues Markesman have to their supports and other roles. I'm glad you are acknowledging they both have serious problems.
Rioter Comments
: Hey there. So, this sort of removal begs a legitimate question from me. While I can't promise this thread alone will determine our decision, I'd really like some community thoughts. **Gameplay** has a bit of a bad rap for low-quality threads and a lack of meaningful discussion. There are really two ways to go about this: 1. Let it do its thing, and let threads like the one that started this thread exist un-moderated. 2. More actively police it to cull inflammatory threads, low-content threads, and discussions that aren't in good faith or are overly accusatory. Both are honestly valid options, and both get us a very different **Gameplay** board. I'd love some thoughts on what you guys are looking for in **Gameplay**: a place for serious *League* related discussion, or a place to just post venting, memes, or quick thoughts as they come to mind? Or something else entirely?
Played top lane today. Reported for trolling not even mad tbh
: Lol I never said anything about pickrate. Ill have to dig through the boards to try and find posts about veigar during that time though. And its a video btw, he was picked in s5 worlds multiple times, then people just started banning him because it was bullshit. Anyway you seem pretty angry with all the downvoting and calling me mentally ill. Ill just laugh it off and keep proving you wrong though xdd.
dont mind me just downvoting a liar
: https://youtu.be/Du0LPwqG1Hg And he was sitting on a 53-54% wr and it took awhile for riot to actually nerf him.
if you think that picture proves * 54% pickrate * high winrate aka above 50% * "being picked in lcs" as in a common or even slightly less common pick then you are mentally ill. but no youre not. youre just a liar. fucking liar
: You mean back when he had the super high winrate and was even being picked in lcs? Yeah I wonder why they nerfed him :thinking:
youve got the be joking.. he was always characterized as a sub 46% winrate and sub 45% pickrate and never was in the lcs ill take making up shit on the spot for 500
: lel. still one of best cc in the game.
no its not. its the best zoning.
: These changes reek of #LC$
I'm still salty about the Veigar nerfs they did just because he was stopping mobile flashy plays
: when youre veigar with rabadons and 3 infernal drakes
https://mmmrkt.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/uhrme8iw.jpg
: No game in history has ever recovered from the downward spiral of staleness. LoL is in a spot where its just a matter of time before the next ground breaking game steals all of its players. Were ALL waiting to get out of here.
well you can 100% believe that im waiting. just need another time sink. first fucking game and im out
: The Assassin Circlejerk on the Boards
hurr durr league is balanced ur all just mad hurr durr
: Some things should be stated as opinions or as personal experiences, rather than as facts
Isajohoff (EUW)
: @Riot, Results of a Survey gathering PoppyMains Opinions
Thinking Riot listens to community in 2k18 LUL
: This is my “LoL is dying” post, and I require validation
blah blah blah im triggered people are leaving this game general discussion post #45235
Saianna (EUNE)
: Tbh Repertoir is not to blame here. The guy received the very lucrative position as lead designer, but no change has happend, which means his position is more for show than actual LEAD DESIGNING. Imo he receives orders from corporate data-analizing workers and has no word to say in the matter. Unless he was picked for the job for having exactly the same take on games future as people before him, so he's more like copy of w/e was before him. Although that would kind of interfere with how he 'acted' on boards when he was communicating with us... Well it sucks that he lost any goodwill he had with non-adc mains so fast.I doubt he cares anyways.
this. people who still believe a billion dollar company is making important decisions so you can have "fun" like its some kind of school project are delusional. blame their parent company for trying to push esports so hard at the expense of solo q. i bet repertoir is cringing so hard at the state of the game but is ultimately powerless to stop it
: Assassins were popular until the Assassin rework but its mages fault?
: It is pretty frustrating being so reliant on the team now, especially when you try to shotcall and they just do whatever the hell they want. The biggest problem I have with it is I'm spending a HUGE time investment learning about macro, practicing mechanics, and broadening my champion pool, but I am consistently and repeatedly matched up with people who don't care at all, won't listen to what I have to say, and refuse to put in a fraction of the effort I've been putting in. Sure, sometimes I lose because I do some really stupid shit, I'm Silver, I don't deny that, but far more common is losing because someone has no idea what the hell they are doing, refuses to listen to any calls, no matter how politely and patiently I word them, and throws a perfectly winnable game out the window because they don't feel like putting in the time it takes to learn from their mistakes.
Not saying you do this but there is good way to shotcall and a bad way. If you're just being bossy and giving out commands, even in a """""nice""""" way (champ x i think you should go here now and do this for me), then you wont get a good response. Leaders and shotcallers are servants of the people. They are there to give their ass to the team for the sake of the team. I learned that when backing up my shotcalling with really good plays people respond better and when I think about my orders as contributions instead of me 'leading', players respected my communication better.
: > [{quoted}](name=SephAgro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KA3TP1iu,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-04-22T16:57:11.260+0000) > > Just look at google trends for an indicator. All time low since season 7. Good job balance team This is pretty common for older games, though. Overwatch, CS:GO, Magic the Gathering, D&D, etc. are all at their all-time low since release. Games will start losing popularity as they get older. That's just a fact. The game can only be considered "dying" if League is losing more players than it's gaining, which we have no idea about yet.
> [{quoted}](name=Helixarrow,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KA3TP1iu,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-04-22T17:39:20.195+0000) > > This is pretty common for older games, though. Overwatch, CS:GO, Magic the Gathering, D&D, etc. are all at their all-time low since release. Games will start losing popularity as they get older. That's just a fact. > > The game can only be considered "dying" if League is losing more players than it's gaining, which we have no idea about yet. League isn't like any of those games and older games dying and losing popularity in trends is the exact same thing. Content is what made the league population as big as it was. To say the decline in content and interest does not correlate to a decline in player base is dumb. Where are the new players coming from? Tv commercials? No, its internet content and IT IS DOWN
: Riot won't fix bot lane come mid-season
Altiverse (EUNE)
: After a few years, can we get updated population statistics?
Just look at google trends for an indicator. All time low since season 7. Good job balance team
: You're delusional. This is like revisionist history at it's finest with a massive dose of willful ignorance.
Its called damage control and its indicative of how fucked up things are right now that they literally have to backflip forwards to argue
: Is anyone having fun?
: > [{quoted}](name=GayFluffyUnicorn,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mRRhh5I3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-04-19T00:13:03.810+0000) > > Actually playing the game. In other words, just feelings.
: So apparently Mages should rely on Blue Buff and Ocean Drakes just to be able to do to their jobs.
>How about next you make it so ADCs cant crit without red buff and infernal drakes? Riot would have a mental breakdown
: Riot and the Year of Discontent
Said this a million times. QQ on boards used to be about individual champions *this champion killed me and I did not like it*. Now its just pure hatred for the game itself, overall, is completely unfun.
: * AS-focused ADCs like Varus, Vayne, Trist, etc. are near-guaranteed to hit 2.00 AS by the 30m mark unless they're really behind. I'll use Varus for this, since I have the best experience with him; we'll ignore his Blight on-hit and pretend he forgot how to use abilities, and say he's level 18. * Say 80% crit from {{item:3031}} {{item:3087}} {{item:3046}}. Toss in {{item:3072}} as his lifesteal item. * AD will be 150 from items, 104 from base, for a total of 254 AD. * So 80% of his attacks will crit for 635 damage (we'll ignore armor too for now). That's an average of 558.8 damage per shot. Multiply by 2 for the 2.00 AS, that's 1117.6 damage per second. That's ignoring damage from abilities, runes, and passives, but also ignoring damage resistance from armor. Obviously the situation's going to change based on who's getting shot, but as it looks, the number's not THAT far from the mark.
Rioter Comments
Anatera (NA)
: Riot is doing a GREAT job!
>Whatever you do, DO NOT listen to anyone, but yourselves and people who say good things about you! AKA reddit
: If you an Ap user prepare to adjust to your new build
: > [{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=27mrj62T,comment-id=00050009,timestamp=2018-04-17T21:31:53.214+0000) > > make me dream, tell me what are the goals "Snowballing Fighters can carry" (Caution: It is very likely that our idea of "snowballing fighters can carry" is different from a fighter main's idea of the same thing)
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Axes,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=27mrj62T,comment-id=000500090000,timestamp=2018-04-17T21:41:07.341+0000) > > "Snowballing Fighters can carry" > > (Caution: It is very likely that our idea of "snowballing fighters can carry" is different from a fighter main's idea of the same thing) And I hope by carry your idea is not to be the ADCs meat shield or peel slave
: It's called ego. The live design team really do think that league's success has literally anything to do with their work, hence all those masturbation posts on reddit after every tiny thing they do asking for an AMA, like they can provide a single ounce of insight on anything at all in this world when in reality they're just a few lucky IT bums who got hired by a company that quite frankly experienced such rapid success that deep down they really are still indie and have absolutely no idea wtf is going on even now.
: The balance and design teams loves to get cute and cause tons of collateral damage in the process
Their balance team is not agile in the slightest. They undertake loopy roundabout ways trying to dial their "knobs" and "controls" to work around problems instead of JUST FUCKING ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC PROBLEM
Onotori (NA)
: It's hard to want to keep playing.
> I wish whales just stayed in phone gaming. so true
: So all mages are getting nerfed hard on the PBE
Seriously I'm so done with this trash company
Zed genius (EUNE)
: Popular league youtuber breaking the rules
saltran (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=brônco,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ENQIb3nw,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-16T21:41:48.972+0000) > > idk riot dev team is retarded anyone can tell you this That's what I call a constructive coment.
: I'm genuinely concerned about what is going on in Rito's mind
: You know what archetype I'm still waiting for?
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