: So long as Morde ult completely cucks things like Illaoi tentacles, GP barrels, Teemo Shrooms, Shaco boxes, Zyra plants, Yorick ghouls, Heimer turrets, etc. I am completely in favor of QSS removing his ult so they have some form of counterplay to that bullshit. Also it's not a complete loss for Morde, he still maintains the 10% stolen stats for the full duration of his ultimate even if it's QSS'd.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleepier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gcxqMdBZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:01:04.767+0000) > > So long as Morde ult completely cucks things like Illaoi tentacles, GP barrels, Teemo Shrooms, Shaco boxes, Zyra plants, Yorick ghouls, Heimer turrets, etc. I am completely in favor of QSS removing his ult so they have some form of counterplay to that bullshit. > > Also it's not a complete loss for Morde, he still maintains the 10% stolen stats for the full duration of his ultimate even if it's QSS'd. I agree with you, that's why I edited in how stupidly overpowered Morde ult is in countering Illaio. Morde ult should not hard counter and delete everything about another champ. It should be what it says it is, a 1 v 1 duel to the death in the shadow realm. If I am fighting a darius and he's at 4 stacks of bleeds on me, if I ult him do I reset all bleeds and he has to restart? Absolutely not. Same thing should go for other champs, their abilities are THEIR ABILITIES. So when I take them to the shadow realm, I should take all of them to the shadow realm. I'm not sure if Riot actually thought this through and intended it that way without thinking out ever application to it. Because its flawed game design. If Morde ult is meant to cuck a champions entire kit, then yes Qss is justified in cleansing it, still doesn't justify Morde's lack of ability to justify picking him once his ult is completely nullified but hey, at least the application of Morde's ult is equal across the board. My issue is Morde ult only counters some champions, other's who have the same kind of "mini game" added to their kit is NOT effected, and Qss still stands as a complete nullifier to Morde ult entirely. And its not a champ's ult that is doing this, its an item that ALL can build. So basically morde ult effects 1 person, on a very long cd but what counters his ult is available to every champ, and available every team fight. Again... to state it perfectly clear because a lot of you lack reading skills apparently. I want Mordekaiser ult to be a 1v1 with the champ he picks. Not a 100% counter to Illaio and Teemo shrooms. I personally think GP is not effected that much by it, especially with how quickly his barrels come back later in the game. Early game I can see the argument though. And if Morde ult allowing other champs to use their abilities ends up making Morde ult super weak? Good.. then change it and make it better. Because right now its toxic to those who are playing a champ that are hard effected by it, and its also toxic that Morde ult is strong enough to justify QSS effecting it. EDIT: Another concern of mine here is that many of the champs you list as HARD cucked by Morde ult, are unable to build Qss efficiently. Other than being a pro in the LCS and building a Qss on Cassi against a yas or malz or neeko because you HAVE to.
: The entire 7 seconds in the death realm is QSS-able at any time. You don't need good timing to counter it.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleepier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gcxqMdBZ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-10-22T01:29:32.736+0000) > > The entire 7 seconds in the death realm is QSS-able at any time. You don't need good timing to counter it. Exactly
Keiaga (NA)
: I was done reading as soon as you called irelia yasuo and akali, all champs who are notoriously difficult to play to their full potential, low tier. I'd assume this was a joke if you didn't put so much time into writing that wall of text that is obviously going to be filled with misinformation or flat out lies.
> [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gcxqMdBZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-22T00:52:07.952+0000) > > I was done reading as soon as you called irelia yasuo and akali, all champs who are notoriously difficult to play to their full potential, low tier. I'd assume this was a joke if you didn't put so much time into writing that wall of text that is obviously going to be filled with misinformation or flat out lies [REMOVED BY MODERATION - ULANOPO] I wasn't calling irelia, yas or akali low tier. I stated Morde was low tier and one dimensional in comparison to very "high tier" champs such as akali irelia and yas who have less impactful ults because of all the flashyness and built in mobility they have.
: Doing the exact same thing as other players
Toxicity should not be a bannable offense. Perpetual dogging? Possibly, but in reality the internet is not for babies. There is a chat system to communicate with other players with. That's what it is intended for. If you don't like the communications you are receiving from someone, you /mute them and it all disappears, now they are all the sudden just a very quiet player. Weird how that works? Now slurs, racial stuff, bigotry of course that is bannable, because the person would have to read the highly offense statement before being able to react and mute said individual. But people now-a-days think even pointing out their mistake that they continually make is toxic. This isn't toxic. Reacting to someone who is goading you on is not toxic, it is banter. Banter is not toxic. Someone who is toxic, is being toxic towards you, and you be toxic back to them because you aren't a baby and an enjoy banter, but all the sudden the toxic person who started the banter gets mad because his opponents banter got under his skin, so now even though he started the banter and was toxic, he cannot take his own medicine and reports the other player, resulting in a ban of some sorts because the language throughout their conversation is considered "less than friendly" This is not right, if someone starts banter and you don't want to partake. You mute them, you don't cry like a baby because you don't like what they were saying.
: > [{quoted}](name=StormBladeMaster,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AtkediwE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-21T19:27:38.861+0000) > > I don't like playing vs {{champion:84}}, she is fustrating and too strong. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:432}}, he has a stupid dmg and his Q is horrible. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:53}} because he always hook someone from my team at lvl 1 with an invade. And when he is on my team, he is useless, he miss all his grabs and he we end up to play the game 4 vs 5. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:63}}, his AOE dmg is a nightmare. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:122}}, you can't beat him unless you play Fiora/Garen or a ranged champ. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:131}}, at lvl 6, she press Q R E W R Ignite and you are dead. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:119}}, his dmg is horrible, he three shoot with "press the attack". > I don't like playing vs {{champion:245}}, stupid champ who is safe, unkillable, he has a zone CC and big magic dmg. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:28}}, she is invisible, force you to buy Red wards and her E is dealing 1/2 of your HP bar and even more. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:81}}, stupid annoying champ with tons of poke and safety. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:9}}, his ulti and his CC are a pain in the asss. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:114}}, if you don't pick a ranged top laner or don't get permaganked by your jungler, you lose. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:105}}, annoying and stupid. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:41}}, Stupid poke, stupid cleanse on his W and global ulti + barrels who deal a million of dmg in lategame. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:86}}, unkillable, with Yuumi as support he is impossible to kill unless you play Vayne Lulu bot. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:79}}, dmg, CC, annoying... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:104}}, dmg, dmg and dmg... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:74}}, how we are supposed to have fun vs this? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:39}}, tons of dashes, dmg and she is always feed. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:40}}, of course your opponent must pick this champ when you have a champ that must engage or when you play an assassin. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:59}}, he always win when he is on the opponent team, stupid King privileges. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:24}}, thanks to {{item:3161}}. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:202}}, stupid dmg, stupid range... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:222}}, always get feed, unstoppable and three shoot your whole team with her rockets. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:145}}, what a nice champ riot... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:30}}, press R ops you are death... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:38}}, stupid scalings, tanky for an assassin and make stupid dmg in mid/lategame. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:55}}, why she always get feed in the enemy team? Why the player must be a main Kata who know how to play this champ? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:10}}, Annoying ulti, annoying kit, annoying scalings... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:141}}, oh look i can pass trought walls! I hate him! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:85}}, press E R, win a teamfight... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:121}}, delete you with a Q and escape with high 1km dash. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:64}}, these insecs plays are cancer and absurb. What is skilled by pressing W and R to give a free kill to your team? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:89}}, she can have more CC please? Stunned for 3 hours... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:127}}, so fun to play vs this champ... CC, safe... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:117}}, why you buffed her? Omg riot! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:54}}, so fun he build AP and press R to kill you. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:90}}, this ulti is cancer, his push is cancer... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:11}}, he will be feed, he will delete your teammates in less than 5s and he will always be played when your compo don't have many cc. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:82}}, seriously who tought this R was a good idea? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:25}} because when i want to play cancer champ, she is countering me. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:75}}, because he stacks and he is horrible for me. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:111}}, tons of CC, annoying as hell and he make a good dmg. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:2}}, CC are useless agaisn't me... You can't win trades, i got free regen on my W... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:78}}, seriously what is this dmg? Isn't she supposed to be a tank? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:555}}, do i need to explain? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:133}}, roam everywhere... fcking annoying champ. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:33}}, ofc you had to pick him when i play Master Yi! You bastard! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:58}}, I want him turned into a bag like Sivir said. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:107}}, why does this champ even exist? And why the dude play him when i'm adc? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:92}}, i never understood this champ and seing people play her correctly and winning with doing stupid dmg and combos is making me nauseous. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:35}}, annoying and now he is played at support. So i can enjoy having a useless shaco supp who only place boxes in the bush and poke with his E. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:102}}, She will go Ap, she will press R and then E E E E and it's deal 60-80% of your life. Karma RQ but in a better way. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:27}}, annoying, i hate this stupid playstyle. > I don't like to play vs {{champion:14}}, unless you play Vayne, Fiora or Kog, he has tons of HP. > I don't like to play vs {{champion:72}}, this ulti god! A pure cancer. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:16}}: Heal, heal, heal, HEAAAAAAALLLLLL > I don't like playing vs {{champion:50}}, the next Vlad is here! Regen and dmg + a big pool of Hp, that how you make a balanced champ. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:517}}, what is this kit? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:134}}, nice dmg, very balanced dmg... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:91}}, thank he is useless if he isn't feed but you have to stay undertower for the whole early game. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:412}}, why everyone is maining him ? Annoying as hell to play vs 300K mastery points Thresh! But thanks, it's also happen on your team. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:18}}, what is this dmg? She pressed E, she shoot 4 AA and she deals like 70% of my HP bar. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:48}}, a pure troll champ! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:23}}, nice ultimate, nice criticals chances... A perfect and well designed champ. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:29}}, what is this ultimate? Why he is allowed to have more range than Jinx under her rockets? Invisivibility wasn't enough? > I don't like playing vs {{champion:77}}, so fun to play vs a champ that can run very fast. "Immobile champ" hahaha, best statement ever when you know that Udyr only spam spells and gains stupid MS boosts. Also his melee dmg is horrible. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:67}}, and i will never like playing vs her. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:45}}, this stupid cage who is the same size as half a lane. You can't pass it, you can't ignore it... His dmg, his scaling... Screw this champ. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:8}} : I wonder if was designed to be "unfun to play agaisnt", god i hate vampires and i hate Vlad! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:106}}, nice passive, nice dmg also... It's alwas fun to see "tanky" champs dealing 3x more dmg than you. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:62}}, especially when he goes full AD assassin, a pure cancer. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:498}}, Hahaha, you can't kill me, i will press R and counterplay! Also have fun laning vs this. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:157}}, WORST CHAMP IN THE GAME, SCREW THE DUDE WHO CREATED HIM I HATE HIM SO MUCH PERMABAN FOREVER !!! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:83}}, what is this dmg? His ghouls are jumping on you and make so much dmg. > I don't like playing vs {{champion:350}} FCK THIS CHAMP ESPECIALLY WITH GAREN!! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:238}} Stupid popular champ with no personnality and a stupid kit. Thanks {{item:3157}} exist ! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:26}} So fun to press R to save your teammate? Screw you Zilean! > I don't like playing vs {{champion:142}}, A bubble, a R and a Q and you are dead. Wow... > I don't like playing vs {{champion:143}}, poke, poke, poke, poke, poke, poke, poke, ANNOYING !!! > > > > Nah i don't like to play agaisnt a lot of champ but you get accustomed to it. But i can't accustom to {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:350}} and {{champion:555}}, i hate these champs a lot. > > I feel like i always complain about champs, i'm never happy about the matchup but you need to deal with it. Upvoted just for the effort put into writing that.
> [{quoted}](name=Environmentalist,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AtkediwE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-10-21T19:56:27.208+0000) > > Upvoted just for the effort put into writing that. Literally xD. Though I don't think an 80 champ ban would be healthy for the game.
: can garen's e crit
Yes... Are you able to read? I would assume so because you'll have to read my answer here, just as you could have read the spell tool-tip in game and found out this information.
: i am going to "no ban" top lane
Counter picks have gotten pretty out of hand as of late =/.
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Vexaeria (NA)
: A warning should be given to players every time the Instant Feedback System confirms a report.
I actually did not know at all that explaining someone's poor decision making to them and telling them what the "CORRECT" decision should have been, was toxic. This is very helpful information to me. And now I know I'm just supposed to mute anyone even remotely toxic in my games because if I type anything back to them whatsoever I'm going to get chat banned :).
: So uh... about Sylas...
Sylas feels like he is always playing URF, with lane sustain =/. Its pretty toxic to play against.
Sirsir (NA)
: The thing is that a lot of non-tanks are using it, which IMO should never be the case with a keystone. {{champion:9}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:555}} Nerf the base values and bump the resist ratios (HP wouldn't help with the mage abuse that much)
This is the issue. It should not be a flat 90+ Armor MR.. It just shouldn't, its ridiculous and the scaling ratios are laughable. Lower the base values and up ratios and aftershock is fixed :).
: so the "BROKEN" Kayle this patch has a over all win rate of 46.85% lolalytics.com has her rated 142nd out of 143 champs. in every role she has less then 48.5% win rate, support at 42.63%, jng 42.04%, mid 45.33% , top which is her best is 48.26% in ever role she is played in lolalytics.com ranks her 42nd out of 42 at support, 49th out of 50 in jungle , 60th out of 60 in mid and 68th out of 70 in top lane
> [{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Pf5gfXnJ,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-03-09T00:00:28.933+0000) > > so the "BROKEN" Kayle this patch has a over all win rate of 46.85% > > lolalytics.com has her rated 142nd out of 143 champs. > > in every role she has less then 48.5% win rate, > support at 42.63%, jng 42.04%, mid 45.33% , top which is her best is 48.26% > > in ever role she is played in lolalytics.com ranks her 42nd out of 42 at support, 49th out of 50 in jungle , 60th out of 60 in mid and 68th out of 70 in top lane ^ this. Kayle is absolutely god awful at the moment. Feels unfinished to be honest, its a spit in the face to her former glory
: Not according to champion.gg. For plat +
You're looking at information with 9.4 data. And who still uses Champ.gg? u.gg is the way to go. Set it to 9.5 and you'll see very different.
: Soooo. Kayle.
Lol? 52% win rate? Shes near useless and no one is winning with her.
Seruvos (NA)
: Game Crash / All League Broken
NOW it works ahah, omg now I have to re-install the game.... -_-
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: Alright, let's not wait till 9.5, give us a quick hotfix here on conquerer
I don't know what you all are even talking about? I can't get any use out of the stupid rune, seems useless to me.
: Is the biggest reason of kayle being melee range before lv 11, Top laners?
: Conq.
I feel like its EXTREMELY weak. In 10 mins I had 40 dmg with it dealt as yorik.
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: 3 tiny displacements that barely impede your champion's ability to do things and one that a paraplegic eighty year old can walk out of.
Literally the only way to land the 3rd Q is to flash on someone who isn't paying attention, or team already cc'd them. Its ACTUALLY impossible. Anyone at all that jumps on aatrox makes him look terrible, look at a camille match up, jax matchup, irelia matchup, renek match up, darius match up... Its just not good. I have a lot of fun on it, but even when you do really well, it doesn't transfer into ANYTHING late game. You go 6-0 in a lane, then around lvl 10 even if top lane is 0-4 and jung is 0-2 they can gank you and you can do NOTHING lol.
: Aatrox was MASSIVELY overbuffed.
Have you seen him in a lane with anyone that jumps to him? Its literally awful, I just made one look soooooo terrible with Camille. Q speeding up to dodge all abilities. Looked like a small child flailing his arms around like Boo from DBZ LOL. Thats the only thing that could really come to mind, unlimited power but literally no way to use it unless your lane opponent is bronze.
: > I think that there's no instance of that happening that isn't either accidental or just toxic, and it's extremely frustrating when it happens, especially since there's nothing you can do about it. Then you're either not thinking hard enough or you're not reading the other posts on this topic. Last pick wants to play <inevitably OP champion of the patch> and the other team got first pick? Well, that teammate just assisted the enemy team for no reason. Worse is that inevitably you'll have players using this to hold the entire lobby hostage, only allowing others to ban a champ if they swap rolls. No, suck it up and learn to move on. It's no different having your champion banned by an ally than it is having them banned by the enemy, both result in you picking something else to play. If you think it's a result of your hovering then don't show what you intend to pick until after Bans. You have the tools to deal with this, don't make it a worse experience for all by refusing to use them.
Cyanide has a point here. Yes its frustrating getting griefed by someone banning your champ, but the griefing would exponentially increase if one could not ban something picked for intended pick.
Hay5eed (NA)
: Idea to help out Aatrox
Why is he labeled a juggernaut if everyone can stand toe to toe with him and his ult is useless? I thought the whole juggernaut definition was big, kinda slow, and massive dmg output toe to toe that needs to be worked around and kited out during uptime? Illaio, Darius, Nasus, Yorik, but looking in to it now, after hearing Phreak call him a juggernaut, I also see that the juggernaut role has been removed entirely as a classification *(questioning emoji)*.... So if hes not a fighter, hes not a tank, and hes not a juggernaut... Is Aatrox the new redefined adc roll? LOL
: Faker plays aatrox couldn't even get 2 kills
I have played 6 ranked games with him, diamond player in gold elo with new account... thanks Riot for taking my account from me <.<.... but back to the point, lol the new Aatrox is poop. The ONLY thing he can do is cheese a yasuo or garen lane, thats it. He can't team fight, he needs flash on a 10 sec cd in order to be viable. And his ult is completely useless. Once anyone in the game gets to the point that your Q, auto Q combo doesn't take them to 1/4 hp then they can 1v1 you no matter how strong you are or how ahead you are.
: I was able to beat the two champs I hate the most, Yas and Tryn, with the new Aatrox. I know he isn't exactly the same as the old one and I think that is the biggest complaint. But I actually like the new one too. I'm getting better with him already. Honestly I think any hate of a rework is because they already spent countless hours into the old one so anything different will upset the mains of that champ. There is a youtuber who hates Irelia rework and thinks the new one is close to a monstrosity. But I feel the community thinks otherwise.
Thats because the only thing he's good against is someone with no cc at all
: I like the Aatrox rework.
His passive is the only good thing about him and it forces you to purposefully not push lanes or lose against your opponent, also why does his ult death reset Q stacks? poor design, coming directly after irelia release...
: It took a full rework...
The only lane match up I feel strong in is a Yas lane.. How is new Aatrox overtuned? His passive makes you insta lose a lane because it doesn't allow you to farm or you lose your edge on the opponent.

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