: Can SR Evelynn's Charm have the moan Added on to it?
If you want to hear moaning I suggest you hear ahri death voice lines {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: Diamond/Master/Challenger Support LFT
: Is Ivern really unlliked or has he just been an awful weak champion
My only issue with Ivern is that his W feels too...uselesss. The utility of hiding is way, WAY too niche and everyone knows people can hide in it. I honestly think if Ivern W was reworked into something more useful he would have no trouble being useful.
: Remember when league was borderline balanced?
Season 3-4 were pretty good compared to every other season.
: i feel like all of the people commenting in favor of the support item changes arent support players
Hi I'm one of the people who played support, since before season 1. I've played support season 9 for about 800 games. (Mostly Nami/Leona) I can tell you without a doubt these changes made bot lane MUCH better and WAY fairer. People are getting exploded less, and adc's actually have a chance to show their skill in bot lane instead of being at the mercy of heavy engage champs like Leona or Poke champions like Xerath.
hiyares (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=m0zz4r3ll4,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0Ou4AVLN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-22T21:07:16.415+0000) > > Remember when you got an early kill as a supp and you could go back and upgrade your supp item? > > RIOT likes to shit on everything we love ohh yeah and then that support snowballs the lane even harder with the increased gold income getting free wards faster 3rd support item and probably full damage anyways so then just start one shotting ppl with the heavily increased income and stats for just exisiting.
> [{quoted}](name=hiyares,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0Ou4AVLN,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-23T03:21:12.527+0000) > > ohh yeah and then that support snowballs the lane even harder with the increased gold income getting free wards faster 3rd support item and probably full damage anyways so then just start one shotting ppl with the heavily increased income and stats for just exisiting. He's not wrong.
: is my friend delusional??
Play rank solo to get rank. Sounds like a waste of time playing with him. From my POV it sounds like you are either friends with him, or maybe you have a crush. Whatever it is, it's best to play with friends exclusively casual. I've tried rank with my wife and it's a nightmare and we hate each other by the end of the night.
: Let's settle this once and for all! Is the support item change a buff or a nerf? - An Analysis -
While the items are a nerf they make bot lane MUCH fairer. ADC's aren't at the mercy of supports carrying bot lane as hard. Damage mages such as Xerath and Brand can't abuse spellthief damage proc which in many cases could let you chunk 80% of a person's hp with 1 combo. On the other hand the nerfs to Regen on relic mean that if you get good poke off an enemy Blitzcrank he can't just mindlessly try running and engaging on you because he's at half health. The changes made bot lane fights MUCH slower and a bit more wet noodle style, but at least every player has a chance. You won't insta die to combo's, and good poke on enemies will pay off over time.
: they lowered damage and spamming spells like its urf. something the community has been complaining about for ages. they take away free damage, cdr, mana regain, and the community is outraged. wow. just wow.
> [{quoted}](name=XJ99999999999999,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IUtYOivb,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-11-22T06:43:55.904+0000) > > they lowered damage and spamming spells like its urf. > > something the community has been complaining about for ages. > > they take away free damage, cdr, mana regain, and the community is outraged. > > wow. just wow. People are crying because Brand, Pyke, Zyra, and Blitzcrank aren't OP in bot lane anymore and need to actually "git Gud" if they want to play support without feeding.
: How I look Locking in a Support during the Champion Selection Screen this Season
Looks like alot of people are crying because they aren't OP early game anymore.
: Blink And You'll Miss It: Elder Drake Buff is Toxic To Gameplay
Yeah Elder Dragon seems a bit too strong. I think 10% is fair, but 20% seems too much.
: This game feels worse than ever.
This preseason has been better than the entire season 9 imo. Lethality got nerfed, mountain got buffed, support abuse got fixed. It sucks they introduced Sanguine blade but everything else seems pretty decent.
: Jungle is now a trash role to play in, used to love jungling, now its one role i refuse to play. It simply feels like dog shit to play. Constantly behind in levels is bullshit. Level 6 to the laners being level 9. Support is now a trash role to play in, cause you can now only succeed with champions riot wants you to play. Tank supports are now dead, they cant get anywhere, only poke champions are permitted bot now. So diversity is completely gone. Top lane is now a trash role to play in, it has been a horrible role for a long time since there are very literally zero top lane mains in riots balancing team. But now its even worse cause you AGAIN can only succeed with the champions that Riot wants you to play. Simply put, Riots focus on streamlining and "making things exciting to watch" is ruining this game more and more every year. And if you have played a long time, and look back, you will realize this game is a pile of dog shit right now, and we are all the abused wives to Riot being our drunken violent husband. They just keep beating the hell out of us and making it our fault. But in reality, we just dont know where to go to if we left league cause nobody has succeeded in making a moba just like old league yet, but when it happens ill be moving onto that and letting riot die alone.
> [{quoted}](name=SymbolicFear,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rBnxdUYn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-21T09:49:25.849+0000) > > Jungle is now a trash role to play in, used to love jungling, now its one role i refuse to play. It simply feels like dog shit to play. Constantly behind in levels is bullshit. Level 6 to the laners being level 9. > > Support is now a trash role to play in, cause you can now only succeed with champions riot wants you to play. Tank supports are now dead, they cant get anywhere, only poke champions are permitted bot now. So diversity is completely gone. > > Top lane is now a trash role to play in, it has been a horrible role for a long time since there are very literally zero top lane mains in riots balancing team. But now its even worse cause you AGAIN can only succeed with the champions that Riot wants you to play. > > Simply put, Riots focus on streamlining and "making things exciting to watch" is ruining this game more and more every year. And if you have played a long time, and look back, you will realize this game is a pile of dog shit right now, and we are all the abused wives to Riot being our drunken violent husband. They just keep beating the hell out of us and making it our fault. But in reality, we just dont know where to go to if we left league cause nobody has succeeded in making a moba just like old league yet, but when it happens ill be moving onto that and letting riot die alone. I want to highly disagree on a number of these opinions. * Jungle isn't a trash role now, they just made farming Jungle more viable so that junglers like Lee Sin cant spend everygame trying to farm 10 kills while everyone is still under 100cs. * Support is MUCH better now. Poke abusable champions don't have mana regen or proc damage to abuse poke and Tanks don't have the HP Regen to simply ignoring poke from ADC. The entire item change made supports weaker early game (which they were broken) and made them scale better into late game. * You are literally repeating "champions riot wants you to play". What champions??? They nerfed conqueror, gave Doran shield to counter ranged tops and added 2 rift heralds so they could influence games more. Sure sanguine blade is broken, but that's an experiment that Riot is trying out to let top splitpushers keep some of their old power. All your points are lacking any evidence and you fail to see the bigger picture. If you played any of the under tier 50% of champions you would be happy, but no, your favourite broken champion in X role got nerfed and now you can't abuse it anymore and you feed games because that's the handicap you relied on. Git Gud Noob.
MickuPgBz (EUW)
: Please don't keep support items this way.
I've been a support main for at least 5 years. I can tell you without a doubt they made Laning phase MUCH healthier. Poke champions now aren't as abusable as before with lack of damage proc and mana regen. Tank champions can't just out Regen poke unless they commite to being useful in all ins such as Leona and Ali. Additionally the extra gold + Regen means supports will scale better into mid and late game and give ADC's some more agency early game when they will be bullied less. Anyone who complains about these support changes either 1) Doesnt know how to support without abusing poke spells sans auto attacks 2) Doesn't know how to survive Laning phase as tank without getting poked by auto attacks. If you fall into either category, learn how to position,auto harass and all in better.
: Patch 9.23 notes
Can we get a feature to auto disenchant champion essence? I have like 40 champion shards but I'm too lazy to disenchant each one.
: Kindred Rework When?
I've seen her played in high Elo and she isn't too bad. I think one of her main issues is low attack range and her passive is very snowball-y. If you had a normal comp with a botlane bruiser such as Garen Yummi, she can easily fit inside jungle role...however in Solo Q that's another story
: When you've been playing support for 6+ years, and all these mages and assassins start showing up
I feel the exact same way. I can't wait for the spellthief on proc damage nerf.
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5050BS (NA)
: So Riot Deleted the post about needing more ways to knock Yummi off her target.
As I mentioned in the previous thead, I believe that if CC lands on a target, Yummi should get knocked off, and BOTH should be affected by CC. Obviously, if Yuumi is willing to hop to difference targets to avoid the CC then all is fair. However having her hop interupted by CC should also temporarily disable it. For all of these counterplay measures I would be MORE THAN HAPPY to compensate Yummi with buffs.
: Buff tenacity
Unpopular opinion: CC and tenacity in this game are fine, it's just the damage meta is so abusable that people die within the 1 second stun time making every form of CC...OP
: Remove minion block from allied minions
I've actually died Tuesday being body blocked by allied minions and it's the most frustrating thing in the world.
: Why don't YOU like playing jungle?? I choose mid and top and still get auotfilled to jungle. WHY???
I love playing Tanks, junglers? Hell no. It's so boring mindlessly killing camps and then trying your luck RNG to get killed or be killed in a lane. If they wanted to make Jungle more popular they would have made jungle more interactive.
: > [{quoted}](name=Veloz Destello,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aNMAaHQA,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-13T03:51:03.626+0000) > > But what sense does it have if now you get 2 eyeballs per take down? You keep getting the same AP at the same speed xD They don't want to change eyeball collection. They are intentionally keeping the ap/ad the same. The only reason they changed it that way was so they could nerf adaptive force in other areas, such as the runepage passives and conqueror. It has literally nothing to do with eyeball collection.
> [{quoted}](name=Jhinjer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aNMAaHQA,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-13T03:58:06.529+0000) > > They don't want to change eyeball collection. They are intentionally keeping the ap/ad the same. The only reason they changed it that way was so they could nerf adaptive force in other areas, such as the runepage passives and conqueror. It has literally nothing to do with eyeball collection. Why is this guy getting downvoted? He's right. Every other rune that gives adaptive force is getting nerfed. Tl'dr Every value with adaptive force is getting nerfed by 50% EXCEPT eyeball collection.
Cräfty (EUW)
: Huge FPS drops in game, in both SR and TFT, since patch 9.22 came out.
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this before but a few weeks back a program developer made a post on Leagues about reformatting the code on League into basic and complex languages with an overall shift of transforming code into more complex language. It could be that right now they are in the process of doing tiny updates that don't break the game but noticable enough to see an FPS drop. For me, my fps dropped from 180 to 140 which isn't noticable (screen fps is 140) but for potato computers at 60fps....it's probably noticable.
Riot Pls (NA)
: Future Stories
I want more Jhin! Bandle City could use some love too...
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: What do you guys miss most from league?
: Thats actually a great idea. Might not work out so great, but its something that i genuinely think should be tested.
> [{quoted}](name=PhearBunny,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vOyavXwQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-18T12:17:33.391+0000) > > Thats actually a great idea. > Might not work out so great, but its something that i genuinely think should be tested. It could help make rotations way more interesting. Jungler ganking top lane? Let the support roam and give a helping hand.
Keiaga (NA)
: It already exists though.{{summoner:12}}
> [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vOyavXwQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-18T12:19:12.375+0000) > > It already exists though.{{summoner:12}} Teleporter was balance on having 4min cooldown because you could teleport ANYWHERE, including a ward beside enemy nexus. This example is a fixed location that is meant to serve ways for bot and top lane to interact with each other more. **It's not a one way ticket.**
: That's an...interesting idea. I'm not really sure it's a good one, though. Forces you to be a hell of a lot safer in those two lanes than you already have to be.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vOyavXwQ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-18T12:21:06.595+0000) > > That's an...interesting idea. I'm not really sure it's a good one, though. Forces you to be a hell of a lot safer in those two lanes than you already have to be. It could be very healthy in the game however since even if you win lane hard, you can't get cocky and push tower plates mindlessly without any risk. It could serve as an anti-snowball mechanic. Also if a jungler ganks top lane, bot lane will become a war zone of people fighting to be able to use the teleporter to help their team out which would also be very interesting and interactive
: No. Teleport summoner spell is already that option. Not taking it means you don't want to play that option unless you go a champ like Shen. Rewarding people for not thinking to take teleport sounds dumb. It removes the window of safety and makes bot lane EVEN more dangerous. If the enemy has to use teleport to get back to lane, I am safe until its back up. Basically it makes EVERY top laner a Shen and makes Shen a nightmare for bot lane more so than he already is. Constant 4 man ganks bot are not fun.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Knight,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vOyavXwQ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-18T12:19:20.557+0000) > > No. Teleport summoner spell is already that option. Not taking it means you don't want to play that option unless you go a champ like Shen. Rewarding people for not thinking to take teleport sounds dumb. It removes the window of safety and makes bot lane EVEN more dangerous. If the enemy has to use teleport to get back to lane, I am safe until its back up. Basically it makes EVERY top laner a Shen and makes Shen a nightmare for bot lane more so than he already is. Constant 4 man ganks bot are not fun. The problem with teleport is that the CD is high and making one failed attempt at trying to help bot lane will put you behind by 2 levels + 300 gold by the time you make it back to lane. **Teleport should be played around being able to teleport ANYWHERE, including on a ward at baron pit.** This teleporter gives the option for bot lane to roam top and vice versa. It's to give more chances for top to interact with other players.
: The Support Item changes: Good or Bad?
Personally, I wish the support items had 2 options. Tank + Utility Squishy + Damage I want to have the option as playing a support to prioritize having more utility vs assassin matchups while going damage vs tank teamcomps. Having an item that has something like CC lasts 10% longer would be amazing.
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Palaven (NA)
: Designers Fail To Understand The Top Lane Problem
With the new layout of the map, why don't they just make a teleporter between the 2 corners of the map, with a fixed CD? I think it could add some VERY interesting gameplay options.
: Preseason 2020 Gameplay: Rise of the Elements
Thank you so much for having support items getting reworked! It feels awful playing Enchanter support when Hook and Mage supports are the strongest/meta. Is there a chance of having new items? I would LOVE to have an item that can buff the utility of a chosen spell for support players. Ex: Upon completion "upgrade" ONE non-ultimate ability. Nami Q - Larger Bubble Size Nami W - 1 Extra Bounce Nami E - AoE Slow Bard Q - Longer Range Bard W - Restores % Missing Health Bard E - Now causes a secondary portal to open after the first one if the terrain allows it. So on and etc.
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: Hey, Im a HotS player who recently migrated to league of legends for *various* reasons...
Here's some great advice I think would help you. Try maining 1 character and get really good with them. While mastering that character you will start to understand how other characters play. Once you feel comfortable with your main you can slowely branch out to try new stuff.
: SAVE THE DATE: Celebrate 10 Years With Us on 10/15
I hope we get cool merch for the 10 year anniversary
: If League was a Gacha Game...
Pretty sure league already become a gacha game with the introduction to little legends and pre buffs to champions who get skins in game lol
YaraUwU (NA)
: Any mobas out there that are ....well you know... "FUN"
It's not a moba but have you considered playing... Dead cells Hollow Knight Ori the blind forest? They are all fantastic games I would recommend
duje (EUNE)
: Aurelion sol rework is so bad
Not sure what you are expecting tbh. Riot has changed every champion into a burst character. Even "tanks" like Galion are being made into burst characters. All we can hope for is that they revert the changes but I doubt they are intelligent enough to do that
mark6028 (EUW)
: Aww yeah season 9
First they buffed mobility...then they buffed damage...now they are buffing their cash grabs :V
Eyesack (NA)
: Games literally end at 5 minutes.
I played this game from before season 1... The survivability of champions now is pathetic. I started from Silver and have played all the way to Challenger. Games ending at the 5-10min are just depressing. No point trying to "win late game". Now it's all about which team gets the most kills before T1 towers die.
: Putting the eternals on the death recap is literally rubbing salt in the wound. "hey this guy that just killed ya? yeah let's just rub his stats in your face real quick just because."
> [{quoted}](name=Kegan Arto,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Vl0Ae8vZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-24T07:58:38.787+0000) > > Putting the eternals on the death recap is literally rubbing salt in the wound. > > "hey this guy that just killed ya? yeah let's just rub his stats in your face real quick just because." Not only that but people who want Eternals "for fun" will expose themselves to shit talking and people making fun of them literally a lose lose situation for everyone.
Proxy345 (NA)
: This game can really feel like a huge waste of time sometimes honestly
Also take into account that match making forces people into secondary/fill roles even if players don't want to.
: Exactly. The worst part about the entire thing was unchanged. Also, make sure to change the .webp at the end to .gif for giphy gifs, or else they don't post right. This one is just a small white square unless you follow the link. With .webp: https://i.giphy.com/media/l0Iy9Qcyz0AwYvuEg/giphy.webp Changed to .gif: https://i.giphy.com/media/l0Iy9Qcyz0AwYvuEg/giphy.gif
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Vl0Ae8vZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-23T18:42:26.660+0000) > > Exactly. The worst part about the entire thing was unchanged. > > Also, make sure to change the .webp at the end to .gif for giphy gifs, or else they don't post right. This one is just a small white square unless you follow the link. > > With .webp: > https://i.giphy.com/media/l0Iy9Qcyz0AwYvuEg/giphy.webp > > Changed to .gif: > https://i.giphy.com/media/l0Iy9Qcyz0AwYvuEg/giphy.gif Thx
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Reav3 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Galiö,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=u95tmZGx,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-15T18:20:05.544+0000) > > Does the Fiddle and Voli rework count ;) > (I'm teasing) I know you are teasing, but to confirm I was indeed talking about a new Champ
: Is it just me or are people slowly not playing league anymore?
Damage/Mobility creep turned a strategy MOBA game into a Call of Duty Kill fest. Most people who originally played LoL left because of the changes...myself included.
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