: Diana Mid Full Guide [300k main]
No. She's a fairly easy champion with simple mechanics. You want to take Stormraider's Surge on her instead of Thunderlord's and especially not CotC and when you know you can go in, throw a Q and then immediately R because the R cooldown is refreshed if Q is thrown first, even if the R lands first. Also, never buy Spirit Visage. That's just dumb because she has zero synergies with it except for the fact it has 10% CDR, and that's not enough justification.
WolfOfIU (NA)
: He's a perfect example of turning assassins into tanks and being godly because of the cc he had.
> [{quoted}](name=WolfOfIU,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=v0UhgaXY,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-13T15:18:34.456+0000) > > He's a perfect example of turning assassins into tanks and being godly because of the cc he had. Because Riot fucked up the numbers. After his rework, he's one of the best AP assassins in the game, just under LB (permabanned) and Kassadin. Also, that was partially because Fervor was broken. Turned a lot of champions into bruisers that were meant to be assassins.
WolfOfIU (NA)
: I would like to point to LeBlanc why this is a bad idea. Her chain is the most complained thing about her it seems. Also changing a classes kit does not change a player's behavior. Toxic players are going to be toxic, that's just how the world is. That is why I use the mute button ;)
> [{quoted}](name=WolfOfIU,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=v0UhgaXY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-13T14:14:46.847+0000) > > I would like to point to LeBlanc why this is a bad idea. Her chain is the most complained thing about her it seems. Also changing a classes kit does not change a player's behavior. Toxic players are going to be toxic, that's just how the world is. That is why I use the mute button ;) and I would like to point to Ekko's slow + MS steal (plus very unreliable stun but he suggested reliable CC) to point out it's not necessarily a bad thing. The execution of the kit matters most.
: Ok so looked into it; still not sure why you would do this, I couldn't find any use for it though i did find out hitting S cancels all actions. You would go into the HotKeys tab, go down to Player Movement, and change the first square of the Attack Move Only option.
> [{quoted}](name=darkcastkiller,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RK2EGHwc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-11T16:07:34.244+0000) > > Ok so looked into it; still not sure why you would do this, I couldn't find any use for it though i did find out hitting S cancels all actions. > You would go into the HotKeys tab, go down to Player Movement, and change the first square of the Attack Move Only option. It makes you much less likely to fail an autoattack and walk into the enemy team. Because if you're in range of them you can immediately auto the thing NEAREST your cursor instead of walking to the point unless you click on top of someone.
dockp (NA)
: ADC player bound hot key
When you go to hotkeys go to "Player Movement" and select "Player Attack Move Click" and hotkey it with whatever key you want, A of course being the most common.
Cowseed (NA)
: https://media.giphy.com/media/uDZexRVCffGww/giphy.gif 1 Post tought me more than all the 'CS better' statements combined.
> [{quoted}](name=Cowseed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y2psKEaX,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-06-11T05:14:34.763+0000) > > https://media.giphy.com/media/uDZexRVCffGww/giphy.gif > > 1 Post tought me more than all the 'CS better' statements combined. If you really wanna get better start with the really basic things like attack the turrets, die less and cs better. But that's so fucking basic anyone could tell you that. Then you get into more interesting stuff like team compositions, win conditions/ending games, and landing skillshots. Then higher stuff like powerspikes and lane dominance, objective and zone control, rotations, and synergies. Lastly you get the really weird shit like timing their jungler's camps (when you don't know where he is), best times to back (I didn't even know that was a measurable thing 2 months ago), and using your teammates as bait.
S0NA (NA)
: Zac highest win % starter is 3x HP pots..?
I knew a guy who used to do that. His name was Sephero, Pantheon one trick. Bought 3 potions ONLY. His reasoning was that it saved gold for him to get his core items cheaper (double BF Sword). I wanted to question him on it but literally every time I played with him he won lane so I just let it be.
: If you aren't Diamond+, don't assume what Diamond+ play is like
No, it definitely happens less. I can easily go into lower elo games and win if I stick to a very methodical, by-the-book form of play. It's just when it does happen, it's easier to spot. When you get caught, it's easier in general to spot because players are good enough to spot it and capitalize on it but not good enough to prevent it. The higher up you go in Diamond the more you see people preventing it, simply by knowing small things like when to back or to rotate with their support as he wards. Problem is once you get to the very top any little mistake is usually from things slipping your mind in the instant and everyone and their mother lets you have it and they'll use a reason that, unless you've got good game knowledge, will sound like absolute gibberish. For example, "Wow Ahri/LB bursted me." "Yeah because you backed at a shitty time." Might sound stupid but if you back at the 6 minion wave at level 5 1/2 (in solo lanes) you're more likely to get cheesed than if you back at the cannon wave just before 6.
: If you're the last person banning and no one has banned Yasuo.
Or I could just not because some idiot on the other team will.
Swegmec (NA)
: How is plat/low diamond "dogshit elo"? IDK if you're higher than that but if you are you're acting entitled because even getting to gold from bronze or silver takes hundreds, if not thousands of games of pain and commitment. There's a reason why less than 1% of all players are in plat and diamond.
> [{quoted}](name=Swegmec,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Mg2NKEWf,comment-id=0025,timestamp=2017-06-09T03:53:16.156+0000) > > How is plat/low diamond "dogshit elo"? IDK if you're higher than that but if you are you're acting entitled because even getting to gold from bronze or silver takes hundreds, if not thousands of games of pain and commitment. There's a reason why less than 1% of all players are in plat and diamond. When I was Diamond 5 I was dumping on anyone who was Gold or lower. When I first hit Diamond 3 I was confident because I knew no matter how hard I tilted I could climb back out of D5 with ease. Now I'm just sitting there watching as Master players still dumpster me. I'm getting it but they're still so far ahead of the curve. Statistically yes Plat and Diamond are good but if you give elos a raw rating and Faker was maybe a 100 or so a Diamond V 0 LP would be somewhere between a 25-50. Yes I'm confident in saying that in a game Faker would easily do somewhere between 2-4x as much for his team as a Diamond 5 player.
: > [{quoted}](name=FeelsCampedMan,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=aAdEy18x,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-08T23:39:20.294+0000) > > Indeed > Traps need to get hit already No, just like Riot's reasoning for nerfing Rakan's shields despite him having a 45% winrate "That's how we want them to play"
> [{quoted}](name=DotEleven,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=aAdEy18x,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-08T23:53:10.392+0000) > > No, just like Riot's reasoning for nerfing Rakan's shields despite him having a 45% winrate "That's how we want them to play" Dude. Rakan is OP.
: > [{quoted}](name=Cuck My Wife,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3ZJZqayE,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-06-08T19:13:23.159+0000) > > this patch I laughed.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3ZJZqayE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-06-08T20:44:31.213+0000) > > I laughed. Okay give or take a few months you got me there.
Anidan (NA)
: And you're not? You look like you're taking Orianna out of any sensible context. People have already pointed out that her competition was nerfed and she remained untouched, what else is going to happen? They stay where they were before in terms of relative power? That's not mathematically possible, so she rises. When she's at the top with little changes to her then it's not a problem with kits (like you implied by saying her abilities aren't telegraphed and she's not one of the best designed heroes in the game), or with her own power ("No she's balanced") or even skill ("Pros can make anything work because they're pros") it's because everything around her was hit. This happened before, it's happening now, and it'll happen in the future. Orianna's design is perfectly fine, but if everyone around her is going to get hit then she might need hit too if you want her to be in line with everyone else. Or alternatively, you could bring other people up to compete with her again. I hear Taliyah is competitive with her in competitve, as is LeBlanc, and I'm seeing some Cass come out every so often as well.
> [{quoted}](name=Anidan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3ZJZqayE,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-06-08T19:44:43.296+0000) > > And you're not? You look like you're taking Orianna out of any sensible context. People have already pointed out that her competition was nerfed and she remained untouched, what else is going to happen? They stay where they were before in terms of relative power? That's not mathematically possible, so she rises. When she's at the top with little changes to her then it's not a problem with kits (like you implied by saying her abilities aren't telegraphed and she's not one of the best designed heroes in the game), or with her own power ("No she's balanced") or even skill ("Pros can make anything work because they're pros") it's because everything around her was hit. > > This happened before, it's happening now, and it'll happen in the future. Orianna's design is perfectly fine, but if everyone around her is going to get hit then she might need hit too if you want her to be in line with everyone else. Or alternatively, you could bring other people up to compete with her again. I hear Taliyah is competitive with her in competitve, as is LeBlanc, and I'm seeing some Cass come out every so often as well. I didn't take anything out of "sensible" context I posted highlights of what gameplay has said so far in response to her being strong with the only connection being how far people will go to defend her. If you assumed I meant that I thought she was broken, her abilities were impossible to see, and that literally anyone can make her work that's on you. The only thing I've actually said is that, she's good, people need to stop defending her, and something needs to be done.
Anidan (NA)
: Ori isn't broken and she is well-designed. That doesn't mean she can't be too strong though. This is like saying Sion is broken after a patch where he's strong. Orianna is strong, not broken. Please learn the difference.
> [{quoted}](name=Anidan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3ZJZqayE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-08T19:28:51.755+0000) > > Ori isn't broken and she is well-designed. That doesn't mean she can't be too strong though. This is like saying Sion is broken after a patch where he's strong. Orianna is strong, not broken. Please learn the difference. You're arguing a really awful case of semantics, especially since I never said once that she's broken. I simply pointed out the extreme cases of bias that people are showing. You're doing it right now.
: Just because a champion had their competition nerfed does not suddenly make them broken. What kind of logic is that? Orianna hasn't been changed in a long time, so what suddenly makes her so broken? Oh why because Ahri, Syndra, and LeBlanc have all been nerfed? The most contested mage this patch is Taliyah if anything.
> [{quoted}](name=Blessed1990,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3ZJZqayE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-08T19:24:10.726+0000) > >Just because a champion had their competition nerfed does not suddenly make them broken. What kind of logic is that? > >Orianna hasn't been changed in a long time, so what suddenly makes her so broken? Oh why because Ahri, Syndra, and LeBlanc have all been >nerfed? > >The most contested mage this patch is Taliyah if anything. 1. Yes it does. If you're a clear cut above all the rest you are relatively overpowered and something needs to be done, whether that means nerfing her or buffing everyone else. 2. Let's say you're right that everyone else got nerfed. If that's the case why has she been seeing consistent play since S6 worlds? She's been there for Ekko and FIzz being good, as well as a variety of mages. 3. LB isn't played because she got nerfed. She isn't played because competitively she's literally ban or you're a moron. 4. No. The most contested mage this patch would probably be Syndra followed by Ori.
: Why did Azir and Kalista fall under Riot Games shitlist?
Because Azir didn't have any real/significant counters on top of scaling up to be one of the strongest late-game mids. He had everything in his kit a mage could want including poke/siege as well as a capability to initiate and make plays. Seriously the dude was broken on all accounts. Kalista is somewhere in the same vein. Especially against melees. Holy shit don't ever pick a melee into Kalista or you autolose.
Rioter Comments
Maszii (EUW)
: You max Charm second lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Maszii,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KNRpMjr0,comment-id=0019,timestamp=2017-06-06T12:58:19.516+0000) > > You max Charm second lol. You're right but a bug is still a bug and needs to be addressed.
: So, Riot, could Viktor get some buffs already?
The only thing Viktor really needs is to rebalance his upgrades. It's easy to get 1000 gold. It's NOT easy to get 1250. That's 2 whole (non-cannon) waves. If they do that again Viktor will spike earlier and be able to keep up/get relevant at a better point in the game.
: I've barely been home for a month and I already want to go back to college
Yeah I could've told you your mother was awful. Anyone that controlling loses their mind when someone they control is out of their grip (you going to college) and it never ends well.
Rioter Comments
Breaku (NA)
: Ahh, I double checked the client skill description They need to do a better job of keeping that up do date then :)
> [{quoted}](name=Breaku,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8jcWljxP,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-06-04T18:38:14.916+0000) > > Ahh, I double checked the client skill description > > They need to do a better job of keeping that up do date then :) They've never updated the client regularly and if you've been here for any fair amount of time it should be ingrained in you to read the patch notes.
Breaku (NA)
: The lazergrip part of Malz ult actually doesn't do damage, the black ooze pool that is placed beneath the target actually does all of the damage, as an AoE. So, if QSS makes that pool vanish, then yeah it's stopping the damage. I don't think this is the case, but I haven't paid close enough attention.
> [{quoted}](name=Breaku,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8jcWljxP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-04T18:31:57.787+0000) > > The lazergrip part of Malz ult actually doesn't do damage, the black ooze pool that is placed beneath the target actually does all of the damage, as an AoE. > > So, if QSS makes that pool vanish, then yeah it's stopping the damage. I don't think this is the case, but I haven't paid close enough attention. They changed that this patch. Please read the patch notes.
: > [{quoted}](name=FeelsCampedMan,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FIbJ3ztU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-04T00:23:53.020+0000) > > Why is owning a vehicle a measure of anything...? Because it means they have 0 life experience, its a cruel cycle. They will play for a few years and be washed up with no experience in the real world.
> [{quoted}](name=M Schumacher,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FIbJ3ztU,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-06-04T00:27:08.598+0000) > > Because it means they have 0 life experience, its a cruel cycle. They will play for a few years and be washed up with no experience in the real world. Can't they just use the money to enroll in college and get a degree?
: > [{quoted}](name=Cuck My Wife,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FxKsmxY8,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-04T00:22:22.881+0000) > > I have at least 2-3 times already. If you watch any highlight reels from solo queue you might've seen me once or twice. And there I was wondering where you had gone buddy... no where as it turns out, hiding right under muh nose.
> [{quoted}](name=jaymc1130,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FxKsmxY8,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-04T00:24:43.021+0000) > > And there I was wondering where you had gone buddy... no where as it turns out, hiding right under muh nose. I like the anonymity and so I'll probably name change again soon or something. I didn't expect to get outed. Fucking tragic. Also on my last name I ended up dumpstering ChickenWrap while he was running a full blown Juggermaw comp. :^)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cuck My Wife,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FxKsmxY8,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-03T07:39:44.712+0000) > > omg hi Omg, you changed your name, and also hi.
> [{quoted}](name=jaymc1130,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FxKsmxY8,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-03T22:35:25.464+0000) > > Omg, you changed your name, and also hi. I have at least 2-3 times already. If you watch any highlight reels from solo queue you might've seen me once or twice.
: Am I the only mid main that gets followed all game every game?
Yeah dude some games it's impossible for me to splitpush because my team thinks I'm going for something in particular and it kills me. That's why it's better in low elo to just play a teamfighter because everyone just loves to ARAM in w/e lane the most fed player occupies.
: Don't use the "My Shop" ever
That feel when the Plat Riven main with a negative win % tells you to up your IQ.
D3Venney (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cuck My Wife,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FxKsmxY8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-03T07:33:59.446+0000) > > Ain't that a blast from the past. > > How quickly are you trying to get yourself banned? omg hi rock
> [{quoted}](name=D3Venney,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=FxKsmxY8,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-03T07:35:38.774+0000) > > omg hi rock omg hi
Roy (NA)
: ***
How quickly are you trying to get yourself banned?
: First of all you cant compare goddamn organized pro play and solo queue. In solo queue she is strong due to the current issues she has in this meta which is extreme amount of CDR and mana regen available and her counters being nerfed. In pro play she is strong due to her strenghts since the day she was released which is safety, possibility to blind pick her into anything, hight utility and gamechaning ultimate. Champions are only nerfed hard for LCS reasons when they are gamebreaking in the proplay which Ori is not, neither is she gamebreaking in casual play, she is just strong. If you cant see the point of my post, that being that she is strong just because of the nerf cycle made a full circle and she is the only un-nerfed mage in last 4 fucking years and because the items fit her perfectly, not because she is inherently broken and she needs changes and parts of her kit removed (which some people are asking for) then you obviously either cant read or cant understend simple statements. And by the way I am really interested in how you are not getting buttfucked by Diana, Ahri, LeBlanc, Kassadin and other ap assassins, you must be a goddamn Orianna god then I guess. Or you just never had a proper matchup so you are just talking out of your ass. Btw I never mentioned her getting fucked by AD assassins, they are mostly skill matchups (more skill needed from Ori player tbh), if I did then my bad. And btw smart boy - I bought Warmog in Ascension and GLP is the build that the highest elo Orianna main in the world is using, so I am pretty sure it has its strong point so I am currently testing it out. These fucking boards man smh...
> [{quoted}](name=DoktorKaiser,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6yZm7YPj,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2017-06-03T04:55:40.221+0000) > > First of all you cant compare goddamn organized pro play and solo queue. In solo queue she is strong due to the current issues she has in this meta which is extreme amount of CDR and mana regen available and her counters being nerfed. In pro play she is strong due to her strenghts since the day she was released which is safety, possibility to blind pick her into anything, hight utility and gamechaning ultimate. Champions are only nerfed hard for LCS reasons when they are gamebreaking in the proplay which Ori is not, neither is she gamebreaking in casual play, she is just strong. > If you cant see the point of my post, that being that she is strong just because of the nerf cycle made a full circle and she is the only un-nerfed mage in last 4 fucking years and because the items fit her perfectly, not because she is inherently broken and she needs changes and parts of her kit removed (which some people are asking for) then you obviously either cant read or cant understend simple statements. > And by the way I am really interested in how you are not getting buttfucked by Diana, Ahri, LeBlanc, Kassadin and other ap assassins, you must be a goddamn Orianna god then I guess. Or you just never had a proper matchup so you are just talking out of your ass. > > And btw smart boy - I bought Warmog in Ascension and GLP is the build that the highest elo Orianna main in the world is using, so I am pretty sure it has its strong point so I am currently testing it out. These fucking boards man smh... You're right man. Everyone knows the champion but you. Nobody is right but you. xd Maybe if you want to clarify that then don't write an essay full of drivel where you contradict yourself. > In solo queue she is strong due to the current issues she has in this meta which is extreme amount of CDR and mana regen available and her counters being nerfed. In pro play she is strong due to her strenghts since the day she was released which is safety, possibility to blind pick her into anything, hight utility and gamechaning ultimate. Again, drivel. In pro play she's strong because she provides everything to a team, PLUS initiation. Think Azir but also pretend Azir actually had damage before 20 minutes. In solo queue she's strong because she is safe and able to scale up safely to a very strong late-game, with no real dips in her powercurve. Hell, she isn't even strong she's just good. She's only ever really broken in pro play and that's what causes her to get a majority of her nerfs. Something you adamantly refuse to believe for whatever reason. > If you cant see the point of my post, that being that she is strong just because of the nerf cycle made a full circle and she is the only un-nerfed mage in last 4 fucking years and because the items fit her perfectly, Ahri - received buffs in 5.2, got nerfs in 2-3 patches afterward. Her damage is lower than ever at this point. LeBlanc - hideously nerfed after her rework Syndra - her 3 ball W got nerfed, Rylai's got nerfed, Her base on Q is down to 50 damage at rank 1. Your conjecture that she's only strong because all her competition got nerfed is wrong. Horrendously so. > And by the way I am really interested in how you are not getting buttfucked by Diana, Ahri, LeBlanc, Kassadin and other ap assassins, you must be a goddamn Orianna god then I guess. Or you just never had a proper matchup so you are just talking out of your ass. Pros win the Ahri matchup all the time. Kassadin should be permabanned as he currently beats everyone. Same with LeBlanc. Diana is easily harassed pre-6 as you have plenty of damage with your autos and your QW combo. Post-6 you're also far more useful so unless you're playing up like a moron I don't know how you could lose this one. On top of that, your barely literate argument of perfect balance is inherently flawed. Having good synergy with a lot of items, a fairly even powercurve, and no definitive weaknesses is not a paradigm of good balance. Look at Irelia, look at Lee Sin. Both of them share those same 3 traits and when they're strong, nobody is happy.
: Thoughts of an Orianna main
1 - She is the second strongest midlaner right now due to all the benefits she provides a well organized composition. 2 - Yes. She is incredibly safe. Her MS buff, shield, and ultimate in conjunction with her range provide her with a ton of protection that makes her a very popular pick, again in organized play because these people know how to take advantage of that. 3 - She does NOT automatically get fucked by assassins. Zed vs. Orianna has widely been considered the ultimate skill matchup. She fares well into other assassin/assassin-esque picks such as Ahri, Akali, Diana, Talon, etc. The only one I recall ever giving her actual trouble is Fizz. 4 - Stop with the obnoxious, haughty attitude. Either that or stop contradicting yourself at every argument you throw out. -You being haughty- "Oh I guess since Faker played her boards are circlejerking her." Faker is a Korean champion. To be the best there, you have to play the best. You do the math on that one. "Anyone who understands the game can tell you she's never been broken or toxic." Right. Again, you do the math on that previous statement. There's also Season 4, when she and Ziggs were the priority picks with Athene's, and then in Season 3 with her and Gragas. They removed the MR the ball gave (among other things) the person it was sitting on so yes her utility has been nerfed before, yes she's been broken, and no it certainly hasn't killed her identity. -You contradicting yourself- >my perfectly balanced main >So is Orianna op broken lul RITO pls nerf? No, she is still perfectly designed and has extremely clear and obvious counterplay. >Is she abusing the absurd amount of CDR and mana regen that other mages just cant utilize nearly as hard as well as her counters being shit-tier? Yes, yes and yes again. that sounds like the definition of being strong and unbalanced if you ask me. > is this just a bunch of bronzies complaining or is it a ciclejerk becuase Faker played her or is she really that good followed by >I proceeded to spam Q-W brainlessly as soon as it came of cooldown BEFORE EVEN GETTING LAST CHAPTER OR CATALYST and I NEVER WENT OOM. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS ?!?!?!?!?! Late game is even bigger of a joke, I literally felt like playing with 6 Seraphs. I am pretty fucking sure that in season 2 a couple of rotations of my spells would drain my mana pretty easily, let alone early game when going for Q-W harass was a huge risk you had to take because missing it means you are now at half mana and did no damage to the enemy. Now with me being able to spam it off cooldown I can see why people complain about her zoning, hell I zoned off champions like Lux or Syndra simply because the game allowed me to. All this nonsence about shockwave's low cooldown and huge utility imo comes from the fact that you can abuse the items to always have 40% cdr and always have mana to do whatever the hell you want. These points look like some quality shitpost. 5 - And lastly, stop buying GLP and/or Warmog's on Orianna. Maybe then you'll figure out why/how she's so strong.
: Hey guys, I just wanna pop in and say that you probably won't see us posting in a ton of these IP related topics until we *actually* have something to say but we are reading all of your feedback that you've posted in terms of the Runes transition. We don't expect that everyone will be as selfless as OP here but we do believe that the new Runes system is a positive change for our game and we're committed to doing right by players in both the short and long term around this project. So just wanna say that if we're not talking a lot on this point right now, it's mostly because we're listening.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Sparkle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aR024Npe,comment-id=0017,timestamp=2017-06-02T23:06:34.151+0000) > > Hey guys, I just wanna pop in and say that you probably won't see us posting in a ton of these IP related topics until we *actually* have something to say but we are reading all of your feedback that you've posted in terms of the Runes transition. > > We don't expect that everyone will be as selfless as OP here but we do believe that the new Runes system is a positive change for our game and we're committed to doing right by players in both the short and long term around this project. > > So just wanna say that if we're not talking a lot on this point right now, it's mostly because we're listening. Neat my first Rito comment.
: so cowards build
> [{quoted}](name=UnboundHades,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lHH3EWkR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-02T18:12:31.213+0000) > > so cowards build The easiest way to get to high elo is to realize what's good and play it. The true mark of a low elo is to justify a strong build as cowardly or unskilled.
: In fact, you can see the current build Zed had in the picture.
> [{quoted}](name=DeathBurs7,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AsZ88Zht,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-02T18:19:47.745+0000) > > In fact, you can see the current build Zed had in the picture. Doesn't account for base AD or runes/masteries or level. Or the AD he gets from his R passive. I'm not gonna try count those.
Dukues (NA)
: Remembering when a full clear was an option
Low elo has always been like that because there are so many more misplays and simply more raw kills. So if you get someone snowballing before the enemy team, and both their other lanes go even, you almost always win.
: Zeds ult damage
Well, assuming Zed is full build he'll have like, what, 450 AD? Let's say 500. Death Mark does 45% of the damage he deals to you in 5 seconds plus 100% of his total AD. So, if you don't want him to hit you for 2218 damage with his death mark, have you tried not taking 3817 damage from his other other attacks.
: Nasus spirit fire max, dorans ring nerf
That is I believe the Quasus build and it should hurt a bit but since you're only going to be getting 2 Doran's Rings it shouldn't feel nearly as bad as triple Doran's stackers.
Eedat (NA)
: > and these are simply the runes you need for mages, assassins, and ADs to be competitive over the 4-5 seasons I've played. You forgot scaling HP seals. Need those.
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aR024Npe,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-02T18:05:03.419+0000) > > You forgot scaling HP seals. Need those. No no I definitely included those. Read again. Fifth line down.
  Rioter Comments
: On Syndra Nerfs
Don't get me wrong, I respect you as a player and think you're probably the most well spoken Syndra player out there... but this is a whole lot of nothing that addresses very little of substance. You'll have to forgive me as I'm a lot more laconic but here's the issue; Syndra is the best midlaner in the game at absolute mastery, bar none. She's still frustrating in solo queue because despite her skillcap, she can QR ignite for kills simply because her burst is so high and that feels like shit for a lot of squishies. That being said, I support the W max build because that DPS gives her a way to transition into the later stages of the game and I think it's an interesting niche that makes her less dependent on her ultimate to accomplish things. I do think that her raw damage should get nerfed and maintaining a W max (2nd, of course) would be the best way to do that. I understand that Syndra's R is probably the most iconic part of her kit but that's probably what should be addressed first. That, or the amount of time Q spends on the ground. Adding those extra 2 seconds made her significantly more powerful in terms of zone control and that ultimate window.
: Anybody elses misses boots enchantments?
"I miss the variety." Haha, no. Everyone got Homeguards because they were so ungodly strong. The only time you didn't get Homeguards was when you were so far ahead it didn't really matter. And what kind of good gameplay is that?
: Why im on the verge of quitting league
> [{quoted}](name=mephisto9466,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KKif4pNM,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-29T06:34:27.333+0000) > > Ive been playing league for little over a year now, and im sick and tired of the trolls, being put on bad teams consistantly (literally have been put on a teams for a week where id do well, and the entire rest of the team goes 0/11/2) False. In your last 40 games your score has equally been as big of a factor for why you lost as the games you did really well and still lost. >League has actually turned me into a toxic player An environment can't make you do anything. Your reaction/emotions are your own and if you can't control them go get counseling. >The back to back horrid teams also takes its toll when its OVER A PERIOD OF MORE THAN 3 DAYS. It could be the elo im stuck in (elo can eat a massive giant mayonasse squirting hotdog for all i care, loose more games thats not your fault and you loose more lp than you win, like the kind of messed up crap is that?) It is a very heavily team-oriented game with an elo system. Elo is gained from wins or losses. I don't know what you expected. >(cant spell) I'm intimately aware. >The balance is on point insert picture of JK Simmons laughing hysterically here. By all means if you want to leave, go ahead. We can't tell you whether or not that would be the better choice and we're not here to do so. If you think that people can be monkeys, you're probably right. But you and everyone else who complains about matchmaking in ranked is really just comforting a bruised ego. As imaqtpie said before you're at fault when you go 0/20 and lose, but you're also at fault if you go 20/0 and lose because you couldn't carry with a 20/0 lead.
Rioter Comments
: kass is akali tier pre 6 you should be destroying him
> [{quoted}](name=LadyRenly,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=W9ge6sin,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-05-22T00:53:40.916+0000) > > kass is akali tier pre 6 you should be destroying him No he's not, lol. DFT combined with his Q magic shield and passive make him very strong level 1, much like Viktor or GP. And because of the damage he gets from DFT he can actually trade with AP midlaners pre-6.
Tusutaki (NA)
: Is there any reason to choose Ancient Coin over Frost Queen's Claim?
> [{quoted}](name=Tusutaki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VP9HKVxa,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-21T23:38:27.961+0000) > > Instead of Coin giving health, it gives a random chance of gold or mana that drops from minions like Thresh's soul mechanic and like Thresh, you have to approach them to receive them. Who is supposed to benefit from this item now? Why would a passive support choose this item now over Frost when Frost gives better stats and rewards all around? Looks like you answered your own question. It's an item almost exclusively for supports like Thresh now, and it's the reason he almost instantly shot up to a 53% winrate the patch those changes were implemented.
: Alright, let's get this shit sorted out. The new 10 ban system is NOT as bad as you say it is.
> [{quoted}](name=Melledoneus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=97JGtYsz,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-20T04:31:21.398+0000) > > Well, Mr. 'xWaters,' let me explain something to you. The way the current bans system works is that you can't see the enemy bans. The strategic value in this new banning system is to ban a set of problematic champions to your team and its members, not to go back and forth to ban the FotM champions. There are several reasons why you are not allowed to see the enemy's bans: > 1. It would encourage you to use the precious 35 seconds of banning time to look at what the enemy bans, shifting your focus from what YOUR team finds problematic to you trying to be a strategic little dinker and getting nothing done. > 2. Your enemy's bans would influence what you pick, which would have a negative impact on people who are already quite indecisive or insecure about ranked. It would create a massive disadvantage for those people and thus result in either more dodges or more "no bans." > > For a guy with 'water' in his name, your argument didn't hold much. > > Alright, Janna X RubicK, our good master tier friend. You're wondering why the system isn't "one team bans 5, the other team bans 5 champs." Well, let me tell you something that might put you at ease: > #THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE 10 BAN PHASE SYSTEM IS, EXCEPT THEY BAN AT THE SAME TIME. > > Riot gave you 10 bans, not 6. 2 champions don't take up 4 slots, because clearly 10-2= 8. Additionally, your problem champions, including Ivern, Lulu, Yasuo, Graves, Lucian, and BoRK itself have or are getting nerfs, so your ban slots are going to most likely get freed up. So stop complaining about non-existent problems. > > If you can't read something as short as how the ban phase works, I don't recommend playing Yasuo or Jhin, seeing as how their passive tooltips are pretty long and might lose your interest. > > Alright, magewick, my friend, I've already explained this but allow me to go over it one more time. To reduce the whole "permaban" problem, Riot has nerfed some of the most powerful champions in the game to reduce that as much as possible. Also, I like the new collective ban system because it allows you to ban and get it out of the way. Usually teams already have a ban in mind and don't really communicate it much with one another unless they are duo. This allows ban phase to finish up quickly so your team can pick, because before it was a sluggish process that took for-f*cking-ever. 1. I love how people justify the pick/ban phase as, "You need to get rid of stuff problematic to your comp." No. That type of gameplay only exists in competitive 5s. The only thing that's ever problematic in solo queue is a really good player on a really strong champion. The only time you ever need to ban a champion that isn't really strong is when that champion is a personal weakness of a player being inflexible. 2. In high elo unless you have an Ivern player on your team, you ban him. Same with Lulu. If you don't you're putting the comp at a huge risk because those champions are just so fucking good. This change by Riot has effectively, in most scenarios, given high elo less bans in the case there are more than 1 very high priority bans (because you'll likely see at least 2-3 overlaps). 3. Yeah Riot nerfs champions that are permaban. It doesn't mean they don't show up from time to time. Back in patch 4.20 they preemptively nerfed Warwick because they figured he'd do well in the new jungle. He pulled a 60% winrate and in normals over a 100% pickrate (like 1/10 to 1/5 games he was being picked twice). Couple that with another strong, annoying champion people on both sides hate (Lee Sin, anyone?) and you have enough champs that if both teams (rightfully) ban them they're now effectively back to 6 bans. The formatting sucks.
Rioter Comments
: Where will all the Ahri one tricks go?
Nah man Lux sucks. Probably Ori if they prefer mages and LB if they prefer assassins.
: Lee sin is not a problem, but a symptom of a lager problem.
"Lee sin is not a problem, but a symptom of a lager problem." I agree Lee Sin turned me into a raging alcoholic.
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