: Ah, yes, they're incompetent because they're not immediately kneecapping a champion, and are instead trying to balance them instead of instantly gutting them to 40% winrate. Makes perfect sense. /s
Remember when they threw a planet on Zoe's head? Yeah, they haven't done that for Aatrox, Irelia, Akali, or Sylas. All the nerfs they've received throughout their entire existence should have been applied on a single patch, without compensation. Then, buff them back up slowly. Very slowly. Snail slowly. +5 damage every 5 patches slowly. Unhealthy champions SHOULD be gutted instantly. No exceptions. Not even in skin sales. And those 4 qualify 1000% as unhealthy.
Rioter Comments
Anatera (NA)
: It's very funny to see Sylas solo kill basically everybody because of his overloaded sustain
Almost as if giving him a powerful base kit + a powerful ultimate is a bad idea. They either need to make him ult dependent and make the rest of his kit garbage, or make the resource conversion from the ults he steals utter garbage and keep his kit intact so he's not a better AP Irelia than AP Irelia, a better AP GP than AP GP, a better Kayle than Kayle, a better AP Ashe than AP Ashe, etc.
: Why is Nashor's Tooth still an item
Kayle still builds Nashor's in almost every single one of her builds. Even Muramana builds feature it.
RéngS (EUNE)
: ***
No it was because it looked like garbage.
: > [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleepier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xFnuYUN8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-27T20:50:41.676+0000) > > Very curious what their thought process was behind this or if there was any. If we make all the bruisers broken, then maybe they can finally deal with ranged top laners!
And then people will only flock more towards ranged toplaners, because everyone else will be simply too weak to deal with the broken bruisers. Ranged toplaners, as in, ranged champions actually designed to top lane are a necessary evil. Stuff like Corki, Vayne, Tristana and Neeko top can fuck right off though.
: A better tank item that bruisers and mages can't abuse!
Or just make their armor items scale with bonus armor (IBG, Cold Steel items, Thornmail, Sunfire) and their MR items scale with bonus MR.
: Jax does literally just as much burst damage as any assassin, whilst building bruiser -_-
Because he has the damage of a Skirmisher, the mobility of an Assassin, the build of a Diver and therefore, the sustain of one. He's simply one of the few textbook examples of unhealthy game design.
Antenora (EUW)
: Playing Kayle before 9.17 LUL.
: Kayle is such a rare pick that knowing how to play around a Kayle is mostly a nonfactor.
It's basic League of Legends. Full late game comp? Sit your ass under turret, farm, outscale. But nooooo, people wanna pull off every single play before the ten minute mark with a late game comp. IN PLATINUM ELO. I've seen Iron players know that you shouldn't do that.. But thus far, out of 50 matches in Plat, i've seen it done once. ONCE. And it was, as expected, as half-assed as only Platinum elo can manage to pull off.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
rujitra (NA)
: The onus is on you (the complainant) to prove the matchmaking needs "fixed", and that ranked progression MMR needs a "hard look". I encourage you to provide the data upon which you are basing this. Please note that your own personal opinion and anecdotal experience, nor that of a couple dozen users, is indicative of a problem. Oh wait, you don't have such data?
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RiEmu4jA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-14T21:58:22.462+0000) > > The onus is on you (the complainant) to prove the matchmaking needs "fixed", and that ranked progression MMR needs a "hard look". > > I encourage you to provide the data upon which you are basing this. Please note that your own personal opinion and anecdotal experience, nor that of a couple dozen users, is indicative of a problem. > > Oh wait, you don't have such data? So Grandmaster and Challenger players getting matched with and against D3/D4 players is entirely okay?
: the worst days of zero interaction lanes
The best days for those without ADHD.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: LOL because QSS exists because it can be immuned because it's single target
Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. Because QSS is on 90 second CD. Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. Because immunity means shit. Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. Because he can reapply as soon as it ends. See where i'm getting at?
Rioter Comments
: Cause late game picks don't have a bad early game anymore.
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: Yes, ren doesnt fall off because of SoS. Thats it. Remove that, and him + Jax will likely fall off a cliff.
>Jax will likely fall off a cliff. Jax is a late game champion. Remove SoS and he'll still not fall off because he's not supposed to fall off. He just needs to actually be weak early.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Pantheon rework looks really good.
A shame Kayle didn't get the same treatment for her VGU. She's a massive downgrade on everything but a few splash arts.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Grouchy Poro,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ird8BEQ6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-28T12:10:22.316+0000) > > Because hes overtuned like every other bruiser now can we talk about why vayne can do 14% of you max health every 0.2 seconds and why garen does more damage then an assasin with no damage items and why darius garen and cho can point and click 2000 of you health or why mundo is uneffected by grevious wonds or why vlad can point and click 1000 of you health away while healing 1000 of his own or why every ap midlaner can spam high damage abilities wioth no mana cost or why assassins are more like fighters because they dont have cooldowns why voli builds full tank and 1 shots people?
Because his main source of damage scales with his HP. And gets reduced to nothing with Tabi.
: ThornMail does not accomplish it's anti-aa function.
Just make the return damage be 5%(+1% per 100 armor) of all physical damage returned as true damage.
Eyesack (NA)
: Once everyone gets 1-2 items people just start getting exploded
Unless you're playing Kayle. Then you need at least 4 full items (not counting boots), level 16 and even then she's not one tapping anyone.
Teh Song (NA)
: The passive on death's dance is meant to give squishy damagers a chance to lifesteal before they get bursted. That's why it also has a healing passive. It's not so much a bruiser item as it is a adc item.
Except literally all of the item's users bar Draven have one or more forms of sustain built in and therefore, are pretty far from being squishy.
: If Sorcery can get a proper [Damage over Time] Rune (like Deathfire Touch) then that's all I personally want.
: > [{quoted}](name=SithesisLord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=f1kAmyK3,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-13T20:18:36.206+0000) > > Yeah, because Press the Attack and Grasp TOTALLY don't exist. Ah, every other Class has their own Keystones, but Bruisers just because the majority of the Boards/Community don't know how to play against them, aren't allowed to have one? Grasp is for Tanks, PtA is for ADCs. Even Riot acknowledged that when they memed about how Bruisers had no keystone for several months and specifically made Conquerer for them.
No, Riot made Conqueror because ~~Cancer~~ Bruiser mains complained they weren't shitting on tanks from champ select onwards and actually had to learn the lane. Also, all keystones have almost all champions in mind, but people will always pick the one that works more reliably. GPs will always take Grasp/Footwork into hard matchups, Klepto into tank matchups, Comet if they want to scale, Harvest if they want to have fun with AP GP or are just tired of every other keystone. ~~Cancers~~ Bruisers can take PTA (Camille, Renekton), Grasp (Yorick, Garen, Mundo, Volibear), Conqueror (Irelia, Darius). ADCs go PTA, LT, Footwork, Harvest, Comet, Klepto. Sivir even had Spellbook as her main keystone for a while.
: The only one that can actual outheal someone who DMGs him, is Aatrox, because of his E and R. The Rest will heal a bit, but that's about it. If you remove the heal now, after Riot made almost every Bruiser a draintank, they lose a great Keystone, again, having none.
Yeah, because Press the Attack and Grasp TOTALLY don't exist.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bone Dad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ThssZX5E,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-11T04:02:41.894+0000) > > Unless it's riven. Nerfed recently and her win rate is below average except at the highest elos Edit: You don't have to believe but it true, ten bucks most of the people who are downvoting me are the low elo players and those silver and below players I'm talking about, guess what, at your elos, Riven has a 43% win rate https://u.gg/lol/champions/riven/build/?rank=iron 45% at bronze https://u.gg/lol/champions/riven/build/?rank=bronze and 48% at Silver which is below the average and where most of the players who complain about her play.
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l MrD l (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SithesisLord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ThssZX5E,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-11T01:14:14.950+0000) > > Yep. > > Still waiting on Jinxylord to stop bouncing on TFT's dick and get to fixing Kayle. whats wrong with kayle? Ive been trying korean build on her with muramana and its good?
Just the fact that her late game isn't nearly as strong for how garbage she is in the early game. Also literally every other hypercarry has better early, mid and late game stages than her. Also also what was a meme rune/build setup pre-rework is the only viable way to play her now. She either needs a much stronger late game or a better early game.
: Nothing feels worse than loving a champion who isn't on Riot's favorite list
Yep. Still waiting on Jinxylord to stop bouncing on TFT's dick and get to fixing Kayle.
Ralanr (NA)
: MR? Tabi was the item that was really good into Bruisers.
I meant Bruisers into Tanks, before Conqueror. As most tanks have only base damage, they're hit the hardest by the slightest of MR purchases.
: > [{quoted}](name=WalkingInACircle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UwOkXPAQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-10T16:35:14.974+0000) > > None of those things are a problem. It's entirely laning phase based. Jungle tanks like Seju work because jungle. > > Meddler decided bruisers didn't beat tanks hard enough in lane, added conqueror, and removed them from toplane. Prior to Conquerer, bruisers were being demolished in lane by tanks - and everything else you said is overly simplistic and inaccurate.
>bruisers were being demolished in lane by tanks They were because 1100g for MR boots that gut tank damage and CC was too much of a dent on the core build of the most broken class in the game, apparently.
heroikc (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SithesisLord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rPPL9s8i,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-07-09T20:31:02.985+0000) > > Imagine putting Kayle, a champion who DOES NOT exist until 4 full items and level 16 and falls off VERY hard at 40+ minutes due to Kleptomancy on the same list as Jayce, Gnar, Pantheon, Kennen, Tryndamere and Sylas. > > Yikes. Kayle is more toxic than tanks given how ridiculous her late game is.
But to compensate for it, she loses lane to literally everyone. You can go Yuumi top and win lane against Kayle. Will it be because of better wave management and outplays? No, it's because you picked Yuumi and the poor bastard on the other side picked Kayle. Hell, her late game isn't even all that good for how garbage her early game is. And again, she falls off HARD at 40+ minutes.
Antenora (EUW)
: Kayle has changes coming in the near future to make her a bit better early but weaker late. When? We're not sure..
>When? We're not sure.. When Jinxylord stops bonucing on TFT's dick, most likely. Which will never happen.
heroikc (NA)
: Conqueror, Darius, Illaoi, Aatrox, Tahm, Fiora are tankbusters. Plus Rhaast, Vayne, Kai'sa, Master Yi, Kog'Maw, etcetc Not to mention {{champion:150}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:83}} are MORE toxic than tanks. Talk about talking out of both cheeks.
Imagine putting Kayle, a champion who DOES NOT exist until 4 full items and level 16 and falls off VERY hard at 40+ minutes due to Kleptomancy on the same list as Jayce, Gnar, Pantheon, Kennen, Tryndamere and Sylas. Yikes.
: > **Nowadays** you just get her empowered auto up and then go and kill someone with one combo when you have the items shes been doing this for aslong as I can remember, its not a new thing.
The only reason she does this is because her kit and itemization support assassin playstyles a lot more than fighter playstyles. A Rabadon's rush/Double Doran's Diana will ALWAYS be more useful to a team than a Nashor's/Abyssal Mask Diana.
: While I am against destroying champions as a general rule, when those champions have bad designs, they should be destroyed until their designs are fixed. In terms of why he's able to be in top lane, Tahm is one of those champions.
>when those champions have bad designs, they should be destroyed until their designs are fixed. So gut literally every champion released between Warwick and Kayle plus Mordekaiser into release Syndra levels of performance? I second that.
SHIN0BU (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=THE RlVER KlNG,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4akB1iOI,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-07T19:29:04.668+0000) > > Conflating 'removing champions' with 'improving top lane' is selfish and short-sighted. > > I don't like playing against Riven, or Jayce, or Kennen, but I don't want to remove their abilities to lane. Even though they are demonstrably more powerful and actually see professional play. He was just too strong. Period. Have had many many top mains both call out tahm kench for being way outta line in both low and mid and high elo. I have a fresh memory of a gold 3 getting their butt kicked by a tahm who was iron 1 I kidd you not. So it's not skill based its just that tahm is so far outta line.
Literally all they had to do was revert his most recent changes, keep the grounding on ally W and ult range nerfs. Done, he's fixed. But god forbid Riot actually reverts changes.
: It's not Aftershock. It's Aftershock on champions who shouldn't have it. I will say that I personally have no issue with Aftershock on anyone specifically or in general, but I play Nasus so it doesn't affect me.
>It's not Aftershock. It's Aftershock on champions who shouldn't have it. In that case, Riot better re-rework Conqueror so it doesn't work on Riven, Jayce, Yasuo, Kayn, Yi, basically everyone who isn't officially classified as a Fighter. It is a Fighter rune after all.
Ralanr (NA)
: That’s not a gameplay niche. That is salt.
That is Kayle not being able to take anything but Kleptomancy/Resolve because literally every champion outlanes her in champ select, and then falling off past 40 minutes because non-combat keystone is worthless in the late game. That is Kayle having to wait until 4 full items and level 16 for her late game when Jax and Vayne have to wait until 2 items and level 6. That is Kayle having the weakest early game bar none and not even be rewarded with the best late game bar none. That is Riot choosing to design a champion around 35+ minutes when most games are already decided at 15 and other champions of the same type coming online much earlier and being much stronger overall.
: Kayle’s Rework is fine. Very low ban rate, average/slightly above average winrate, slightly below average pick rate. She hits pretty close to what a niche champion stats should be.
Except her niche is being the weakest champion in the game bar none with not even the strongest late game.
: > [{quoted}](name=DaenrysTargaryen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JUoILc86,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-25T22:15:53.284+0000) > > also sion sion and chogath are capable of losing lane trades. tahm isnt. a r%%%%%ed monkey could win lane with that champion. he has a lane kill rate of 60% against almost every single top laner, and thats **after** people learned not to try and interact with him. like his worst matchups are ranged champions that he still decisively beats in lane. please lets not pretend he isnt a problem. hes basically like pre rework lane nunu. broken in lane, almost useless afterwards. only that i dont remember lane nunu being able to 1v3. hes one of the few exceptions who is in such a broken state at the moment, that they should just olaf him for a few patches until they can find a way to balance his lane phase against his midgame.
>tahm isnt. a r%%%%%ed monkey could win lane with that champion. And then lose the game because in the League dictionary the entire definition for 'win lane, lose game' is Kench's splash art.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Why isn't the design team being held responsible for this game's state?
>Kayle is dogshit, "mini-rework is planned" yea sure, go mini rework a champ that you just spent a whole year creating a new kit, and waste ressource because your vgu was garbage and didn't change anything while also making her even more unfun to play. Kayle's hit the mark a lot more accurately than quite literally every single VGU since Warwick's, Morderkaiser's included. Except the problem with Kayle isn't at all a problem with Kayle. It's a problem with every other late game hypercarry being able to lane.
: Clepto Kayle is about the skill potion to get ranged at 10 not 11. It's not about income... That's secondary..
Klepto Kayle is 100% about the income. Was when the skill potion worked on her passive, is now that it doesn't. Skill potions were and are a nice bonus to have, but isn't at all why Kayle takes Klepto. She takes Klepto because she loses one to EVERY single champion bar maybe Ornn and Sion, having to concede almost whole waves of minions just so she doesn't get engaged on and killed at soon as level 3.
: he was made to be a support... It's the whole reason he has his thick skin, as well as his ult, and the ability to devour allies. He only ended up going top (and sometimes jungle) due to people realizing how goddamn hard he is to beat in a 1v1.
: Yeah, but it's not like this is mutually exclusive. All the OP is saying is that tahm shouldn't be relegated to top simply because they can't figure out how to balance him bot, as he is essentially insult to injury
>All the OP is saying is that tahm shouldn't be relegated to top simply because they can't figure out how to balance him bot, as he is essentially insult to injury He has always been a top laner though.
: Get Tahm out of top lane
Yeah, let's get a top lane champion out of top lane. Smart idea.
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: Can we revert Pyke and Tahm to actually be supports "only"?
Kench is supposed to flex into top lane since release. Pyke isn't.
: These new sylas nerfs will destroy him
>These new sylas nerfs will destroy him And literally no one other than the mains of that broken champ found it to be a bad thing.
: Because otherwise he's eating towershots without healing for a potentially very minor miscalculation.
So if he didn't have it, he'd actually have to commit to tower dives? Oh the horror, the horror.
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