Xcezz (NA)
: Mecha Kingdoms Jax chroma
Hey, the black chroma (a.k.a Peacekeeper Jax) is only unlockable via crafting with 300 Mecha Kingdoms token in your Loot Section.
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: Where Icathia once stood is thousands of years in the past. If that’s Jax’s main lore then he’s not going to get very much progression in his story. It’s obviously the staging point for where his journey is taking him. And that journey is looking for warriors. In that same story it mentions what he’s looking for, what they’ll need to be and what not. Now in that same story he meets another highly revered fighter, who obviously meets all of what he’s looking for. It’s illogical to think that they’re just gonna fight and leave. What is Jax gonna meet her, kick her ass, then leave disappointed, and then go find kassadin and kai sa?
> [{quoted}](name=Me Not Smart,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ERREkFt9,comment-id=0008000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-17T15:34:47.383+0000) > > Where Icathia once stood is thousands of years in the past. If that’s Jax’s main lore then he’s not going to get very much progression in his story. > > It’s obviously the staging point for where his journey is taking him. And that journey is looking for warriors. In that same story it mentions what he’s looking for, what they’ll need to be and what not. > > Now in that same story he meets another highly revered fighter, who obviously meets all of what he’s looking for. It’s illogical to think that they’re just gonna fight and leave. What is Jax gonna meet her, kick her ass, then leave disappointed, and then go find kassadin and kai sa? how does when a story took place can affect a character's progression in the future?? And yes. A duelist or couple fighters who were empowered by void and have experience going against to void, who would jax pick??? A worthy opponent doesn't necessarily mean that she is a good pick for fighting void creatures. And no. A rapier is called a rapier because it features fast and swift attacks due to its light and thin design. you would notice the difference between it and long sword if u actually wielded one in your hand. (hint: I did.) Also, a stab in a midsection is not necessarily lethal. (unless we are talking about typical long sword or katanas here). The only way for rapier to be lethal is a precise strike to heart, which is pretty easy with Fiora's skill. But again, Jax is a master of weapons, and parring a rapier with a staff or axehead is very easy.
: Help me understand as it confuses me, how can their be a story of Jax looking for a "worthy warrior" and hes testing people and in the end Fiora is introduced, another champion, and people can think its anyone but her. I don't understand. What do they think hes gonna kick her ass and leave? How does this go in everyone's heads, because it doesn't make any sense.
> [{quoted}](name=Me Not Smart,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ERREkFt9,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2019-01-16T00:04:02.351+0000) > > Help me understand as it confuses me, how can their be a story of Jax looking for a "worthy warrior" and hes testing people and in the end Fiora is introduced, another champion, and people can think its anyone but her. I don't understand. What do they think hes gonna kick her ass and leave? How does this go in everyone's heads, because it doesn't make any sense. That's just a story between them. It's not where Jax's main lore is settled at. Check out "Where Icathia once stood"
: Even if Jax can dodge a few it can work on everything, and that's where her W comes into play. Also Fiora's sword, if lore is followed isn't lethal to just humans. Its demacian steel, meaning its effective vs undead and presumably void as well. Also it doesn't matter if Jax is battle hardened, getting stabbed through the middle of your back if effective vs anything. And when I mention the TF card its because it has no place in that fight, its third party, its literally put in there to ensure he wins for whatever reason. It was out of place. Its all from a fan made video, none of it holds any merit, its not about how skilled those champs are, its about how that animator wanted it to end, thats it.
> [{quoted}](name=Me Not Smart,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ERREkFt9,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-16T22:52:55.790+0000) > > Even if Jax can dodge a few it can work on everything, and that's where her W comes into play. > > Also Fiora's sword, if lore is followed isn't lethal to just humans. Its demacian steel, meaning its effective vs undead and presumably void as well. Also it doesn't matter if Jax is battle hardened, getting stabbed through the middle of your back if effective vs anything. > > And when I mention the TF card its because it has no place in that fight, its third party, its literally put in there to ensure he wins for whatever reason. It was out of place. > > Its all from a fan made video, none of it holds any merit, its not about how skilled those champs are, its about how that animator wanted it to end, thats it. Great! Demacian steel! Effective vs undead and void! But jax is neither of that. TF was not in the fight. So the card shouldn't do anything anyways. The fight was between Jax and Fiora. Also that video was featured by league community account officially. So Fiora's light weighted duel blade wouldn't be lethal to big guy jax who is just a big guy who is just a giant with brutal strength and mastered weapon skill.
: If Jax can analyze Fiora's fight pattern its fair to assume she can figure him out as well. She's no ordinary fighter, and shes not only skilled but extremely smart. Her passive is all about finding the weaknesses in her opponents defense. Whenever this discussion comes up Jax fan boys always assume he far out classes her, like its not even a competition. And im not sure how you can say that fan video is accurate, not only does he get stabbed like its nothing but the TF card thing is so dumb and gimmicky. It was literally made to pander to Jax fan boys. She can get hit and knocked around like its nothing, but he gets stabbed and its fine? Yeah thats a bias video if ive ever seen one.
> [{quoted}](name=Me Not Smart,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ERREkFt9,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-01-16T00:13:59.095+0000) > > If Jax can analyze Fiora's fight pattern its fair to assume she can figure him out as well. She's no ordinary fighter, and shes not only skilled but extremely smart. Her passive is all about finding the weaknesses in her opponents defense. > > Whenever this discussion comes up Jax fan boys always assume he far out classes her, like its not even a competition. > > And im not sure how you can say that fan video is accurate, not only does he get stabbed like its nothing but the TF card thing is so dumb and gimmicky. It was literally made to pander to Jax fan boys. She can get hit and knocked around like its nothing, but he gets stabbed and its fine? Yeah thats a bias video if ive ever seen one. If Fiora's passive makes her able to find weaknesses, then Jax's E means that he can literally dodge all attacks since in-game he can dodge all basic attacks. Fiora's sword maybe lethal to ordinary humans, but Jax is a battle-worn warrior who survived attacks from god warriors and void creatures. Also what jax did to tf's card was also accurate since jax can actually dodge that with his E in game. You totally sounded like a Fiora fanboy as well, just by the way.
Neamean (NA)
: I think {{champion:107}} could be the worthy warrior jax is looking for.
> [{quoted}](name=Neamean,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ERREkFt9,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-01-15T19:54:42.643+0000) > > I think {{champion:107}} could be the worthy warrior jax is looking for. Could be! I never thought of it because there's no visible lore connection... Yet.
: {{champion:75}} {{champion:58}} : doesn't matter, we both kill you Jokes aside... longer range with weapon doesn't mean you auto-win a duel. There's a reason for so many variations of swords and short weapons. If fiora were to get inside jax's blade reach (using his pike/halberd/poleaxe) she can shred him faster than he can defend himself. But to get inside means one amazing parry/deflection or dodge against a much heavier weapon wielded with power and strong momentum. Thus likely a deflection by fiora to throw the blade off course to pass harmlessly through the air followed by some kind of lunging maneuver to force him to step backwards rather than immediately launch a strike at here. This then gives fiora the time to launch a more precise strike that gets through jax's defenses and score a meaningful hit. One might not be enough, but it's a test of skill to see if she can land enough and avoid jax's thrusts and swiping blows. Honestly probably like the opening battle for Achilles with Brad Pitt playing him in the movie Troy except more protracted. Fiora reprises the role of Achilles - being the more agile one but with less brute strength.
> [{quoted}](name=woodvsmurph,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ERREkFt9,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-15T06:43:10.174+0000) > > {{champion:75}} {{champion:58}} : doesn't matter, we both kill you > > Jokes aside... longer range with weapon doesn't mean you auto-win a duel. There's a reason for so many variations of swords and short weapons. If fiora were to get inside jax's blade reach (using his pike/halberd/poleaxe) she can shred him faster than he can defend himself. But to get inside means one amazing parry/deflection or dodge against a much heavier weapon wielded with power and strong momentum. Thus likely a deflection by fiora to throw the blade off course to pass harmlessly through the air followed by some kind of lunging maneuver to force him to step backwards rather than immediately launch a strike at here. This then gives fiora the time to launch a more precise strike that gets through jax's defenses and score a meaningful hit. One might not be enough, but it's a test of skill to see if she can land enough and avoid jax's thrusts and swiping blows. Honestly probably like the opening battle for Achilles with Brad Pitt playing him in the movie Troy except more protracted. Fiora reprises the role of Achilles - being the more agile one but with less brute strength. 1. I did not say having longer range weapon means u auto-win the duel! I said u will have advantage if u have a longer weapon. I practice Iaido and have a standard length katana, which I find very hard to deal with when I go into combat with my friend who is using a western spear. If u ask anyone who do combat martial arts, they will also tell u that longer weapons gives you big advantages. 2.Duel doesn't mean that Jax has to use a blade as well. Jax decided to use a lamppost so he doesn't have to accidentally kill his opponent and also to give his opponent a sporting chance. Comparing to Fiora's goal is always death, Jax doesn't really care that much. Jax's favorite weapon was his old post-axe, which has an incredible reach and damage if he used full strength. Fiora has the advantages on speed, there's no doubt. However, Jax lived for centuries while looking for a worth fighter, it is reasonable to say that Jax could easily analyze Fiora's fight pattern and predict her move and move on to parry it. There's a fan animation on YouTube of Jax vs Fiora, which I think is pretty impressive and accuract, here's the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMcuT-xwTxg&t=146s
: I believe one of the warriors Jax is looking for is Fiora. If you break down the story "None Shall Pass" its pretty obvious. The word "worthy" is mentioned several times throughout his story. Who's select quote also involves that word? Fiora's. And Fiora is no ordinary fighter. shes prodigal. While she was still a teen she beat her father who was described "as a fine swordsman" but his young daughter was already better than him, better than the head of a noble house who would likely be a better fighter than a common soldier. And that was years before they meet. Enough time for her to become the most feared duelist in an entire continent. Shes lost track of the people shes killed there's no many, and if her story duel speaks anything to how her fights normally go, she wins within a matter of seconds, showing how skilled she is. Fiora is also extremely intelligent, she wouldn't just charge in like the other Demacians in the story. They wouldn't have two characters who are "legends" meet for no reason. Jax meets Fiora on the bridge because this is where there stories tie together, shes (at least one of) the warrior hes looking for. Riots not gonna have them meet just for Jax to kick her ass and then leave disappointed, that wouldn't make any sense. Why would they mention in a story "a warrior worthy of fighting at his side in the battles against the monsters from beyond would need to be adaptable" and then bring in another champion, just for the other champ to not be the one hes looking for. Especially a champ who has over come every obstacle put in their path before? Just because Fiora isn't a part of some military doesn't mean she wouldn't know how to fight outside of a duel. If its believed that the monsters from beyond are the void, then they'd likely attack like they do in the freljord story where the three ice born descend into below the howling abyss. Where its deadly creatures attacking in small packs or alone, Fiora wouldn't be worth her salt as a fighter if she could literally only one v one, and I highly doubt thats the case. I don't think one is better than the other or would defeat the other, it's likely that these two, like how Olaf and Sejuani fought to a stand still, would also find equals in each other. Champions dont meet in lore just for it to be insignificant. Just like Nasus and Renekton meeting Xerath was nearly catastrophic, and Thresh and Lucian meeting, Or Illaoi with Miss Fortune, all of it was significant, and it was more than just two champs meet, one beats the shit out of the other and leaves. Also, its important to not that Jax did not kill the god warrior on his own, his entire unit was there, yes he struck the killing blow, but he didn't do it on his own. As well as in the fight between Jax and Darius, it doesn't have enough time to show them really fight, they push against each other a bit, and thats it. Its cut too short to really get anything.
> [{quoted}](name=Me Not Smart,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ERREkFt9,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-15T04:06:24.433+0000) > > I believe one of the warriors Jax is looking for is Fiora. If you break down the story "None Shall Pass" its pretty obvious. The word "worthy" is mentioned several times throughout his story. Who's select quote also involves that word? Fiora's. > > And Fiora is no ordinary fighter. shes prodigal. While she was still a teen she beat her father who was described "as a fine swordsman" but his young daughter was already better than him, better than the head of a noble house who would likely be a better fighter than a common soldier. And that was years before they meet. Enough time for her to become the most feared duelist in an entire continent. Shes lost track of the people shes killed there's no many, and if her story duel speaks anything to how her fights normally go, she wins within a matter of seconds, showing how skilled she is. Fiora is also extremely intelligent, she wouldn't just charge in like the other Demacians in the story. > > They wouldn't have two characters who are "legends" meet for no reason. Jax meets Fiora on the bridge because this is where there stories tie together, shes (at least one of) the warrior hes looking for. Riots not gonna have them meet just for Jax to kick her ass and then leave disappointed, that wouldn't make any sense. > > Why would they mention in a story "a warrior worthy of fighting at his side in the battles against the monsters from beyond would need to be adaptable" and then bring in another champion, just for the other champ to not be the one hes looking for. Especially a champ who has over come every obstacle put in their path before? Just because Fiora isn't a part of some military doesn't mean she wouldn't know how to fight outside of a duel. If its believed that the monsters from beyond are the void, then they'd likely attack like they do in the freljord story where the three ice born descend into below the howling abyss. Where its deadly creatures attacking in small packs or alone, Fiora wouldn't be worth her salt as a fighter if she could literally only one v one, and I highly doubt thats the case. > > I don't think one is better than the other or would defeat the other, it's likely that these two, like how Olaf and Sejuani fought to a stand still, would also find equals in each other. Champions dont meet in lore just for it to be insignificant. Just like Nasus and Renekton meeting Xerath was nearly catastrophic, and Thresh and Lucian meeting, Or Illaoi with Miss Fortune, all of it was significant, and it was more than just two champs meet, one beats the shit out of the other and leaves. > > > > Also, its important to not that Jax did not kill the god warrior on his own, his entire unit was there, yes he struck the killing blow, but he didn't do it on his own. As well as in the fight between Jax and Darius, it doesn't have enough time to show them really fight, they push against each other a bit, and thats it. Its cut too short to really get anything. I did know Jax did not kill the god warrior on his own (and i know people will use the fact that i didn't say anything about this against my post), however just to chop that big of a thing's head off requires massive brutal strength along. Now onto {{champion:122}} vs {{champion:24}} . From a degree of a martial art praticitioner, the whole fight was just Jax showing off his skill. Jax swapped multiple bo-staff stance against darius when Darius changed his pattern each time. If you actually wield a bo-staff (very similar to a wooden lamppost which Jax used in video), you will find it that it breaks easily when used against a metal weapon like darius' axe. However, Jax parried all darius' attack without breaking the lamppost itself was a pure show-off in his ability to control his strength, which in better words, showing off his "Grandmaster's might". And just with the description of Jax being a giant, the fact that he used one of his famous moves "leap strike" was pretty awesome as well.
: Well, in game sizes are not really important as far as i know. Yordles look like giants in comparison with Kayle for example. And dont take skins as canon for the main lore, Sion is not a robot even is he has 2 robotic skins, there are tons of skins for Shyvana that change the color of her skin, etc. Also, you have to consider that Jax needed help to cut the head of that Ascended.
> [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ERREkFt9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-15T03:06:23.820+0000) > > Well, in game sizes are not really important as far as i know. Yordles look like giants in comparison with Kayle for example. > > And dont take skins as canon for the main lore, Sion is not a robot even is he has 2 robotic skins, there are tons of skins for Shyvana that change the color of her skin, etc. > > Also, you have to consider that Jax needed help to cut the head of that Ascended. I do know that! But even with the help that his elite squad gave him, it is still magnificent for him to just cut a god-warrior's head off. Jax's combat skill is undoubtedly the best in league (Referring to A New Dawn again, A war-worn general like {{champion:122}} is struggling on battling with Jax even though he only had a lamp.). and just along with the physical strength he has, a duel with {{champion:114}} is almost unfair.
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: >Before the Icathian war against the void, {{champion:24}} is likely to be human Rioter: > [{quoted}](name=Scathlocke,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=72yyso95,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-02T21:38:09.902+0000) > > I don't know that this is more likely. Also, it is not clear that the Kohari are a single species, anymore than the inhabitants of Demacia are. Saijax might not be human, but he could easily be fighting alongside humans. > > The use of language was deliberate. :-) and > [{quoted}](name=Scathlocke,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=72yyso95,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000001000200010000,timestamp=2018-03-02T23:24:17.866+0000) > > What if the Icathians were so unconcerned by race and species, that this wasn't something they talked about? > > "This man is green and comes from that other country beyond the mountains" vs "It's the big warrior with the hat" etc. > > (Real-talk, we deliberately edited the story in such a way that this exact discussion would take place once it was released. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED.) I don't think he's human. Story already mentions his skin is mucked by the illness. >After the void entering runeterra, Jax's is likely to get void touched and turns into a purple, three-fingered, and two toes creature. uh > [{quoted}](name=Scathlocke,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=72yyso95,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-02T23:40:37.085+0000) > > I'm saying being purple doesn't mean you're touched by the Void. > > There are people who seem to think that. Maybe Jax beats Fiora, maybe not. Her bio calls her "the most feared duelist in all of Valoran" and she has never lost a duel against a challenger, despite having many. Fiora isn't just good or great, she's prodigal. I'm not saying she beats Jax, but it's not an easy call either way.
I respect that {{champion:114}} is the most feared duelist in all of Valoran, however, Jax is not a duelist. He's the GRANDMASTER AT ARMS ;) In Jax's old lore he never lose any fight in the field of justice before he was restricted from using a real weapon. Jax indeed might not be human, I should choose a better word in the post, sry about that.
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: Rito pls: We need the honor opponent button back
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