Anatera (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Skorch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Oa0z1Nu,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T01:24:18.446+0000) > > And that doesnt for a second make this conspiracy theory anymore correct. YOU having a 50% winrate doesnt mean you are statistically FORCED to have it. That just means that probably is where you should be. How else would many MANY people be able to climb with +70% winrate. Are they chosen by the Rito gods? My god, you sound like that other guy. Actually you might be, now that I think of it, but I'll assume you aren't. If they kept playing, it would even out once the number of games becomes statistically relevant to notice a plateau. And I'm assuming you're talking about ranked. I am not, because it is, unfortunately, not a good way to gauge this particular statistic unless you play ranked a lot. If you only play a handful of games to reach a particular rank then stop, it is a poor indicator because that rank gets reset at the end of every season.
> [{quoted}](name=Anatera,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Oa0z1Nu,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T01:30:49.072+0000) > > My god, you sound like that other guy. Actually you might be, now that I think of it, but I'll assume you aren't. > > If they kept playing, it would even out once the number of games becomes statistically relevant to notice a plateau. And I'm assuming you're talking about ranked. I am not, because it is, unfortunately, not a good way to gauge this particular statistic unless you play ranked a lot. If you only play a handful of games to reach a particular rank then stop, it is a poor indicator because that rank gets reset at the end of every season. How statistics work in a large sample size is typically you get closer and closer to 50% the larger the sample size is if its truely random. Thinking I have a 50% winrate in norms because Riot forces me there is 100% insane. And for the record I have a 60ish% winrate in norms as well.
Anatera (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Skorch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Oa0z1Nu,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T01:13:56.952+0000) > > If thats the case how is that any different than you claiming the 50% forced winrate in the first place. Because I see the 50% win rate on my profile? Just like a lot of other people do?
> [{quoted}](name=Anatera,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Oa0z1Nu,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T01:14:45.788+0000) > > Because I see the 50% win rate on my profile? Just like a lot of other people do? And that doesnt for a second make this conspiracy theory anymore correct. YOU having a 50% winrate doesnt mean you are statistically FORCED to have it. That just means that probably is where you should be. How else would many MANY people be able to climb with +70% winrate. Are they chosen by the Rito gods?
Anatera (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Subdue,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Oa0z1Nu,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T00:26:59.285+0000) > > I am asking you to offer a plausible explanation. Something that at least makes logical sense in your head, for how they might do what you're accusing them of doing. I don't think that's an unrealistic request. No, you're asking me to show you something that I could only possible know the details to if I was a Riot employee.
> [{quoted}](name=Anatera,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Oa0z1Nu,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-15T01:07:16.707+0000) > > No, you're asking me to show you something that I could only possible know the details to if I was a Riot employee. If thats the case how is that any different than you claiming the 50% forced winrate in the first place.
: {{item:3078}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3022}} 3,733g + 3,200g +3,100g = 10,033g Seems like bruisers and juggernauts should be able to get some decent lategame fantasy and multiplicative item synergy if they are investing over 10k into just 3 items. {{item:3031}} {{item:3087}} {{item:3094}} {{item:1038}} = 9,900g total Also, I don't think that the changed {{item:3022}} would grant better chasing power than the old version. As far as chasing power alone goes, it would be losing 40% movement speed slow for 5% movement speed steal. The current {{item:3022}} already works with {{item:3078}} rage passive and movement speed.
> [{quoted}](name=Painted Celt,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZPVplEU2,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-02-13T23:21:40.452+0000) > > {{item:3078}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3022}} > 3,733g + 3,200g +3,100g = 10,033g > > Seems like bruisers and juggernauts should be able to get some decent lategame fantasy and multiplicative item synergy if they are investing over 10k into just 3 items. > > {{item:3031}} {{item:3087}} {{item:3094}} {{item:1038}} = 9,900g total > > Also, I don't think that the changed {{item:3022}} would grant better chasing power than the old version. As far as chasing power alone goes, it would be losing 40% movement speed slow for 5% movement speed steal. The current {{item:3022}} already works with {{item:3078}} rage passive and movement speed. Except to my knowledge no ADC rushes all three of those items but hey, maybe tristana.
: Man, what is with that tone in your title? You talk as though Riot employees spend their time on Reddit and playing games, instead of working.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkKatalyst,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U1i24nKg,comment-id=0022,timestamp=2018-02-13T02:17:49.646+0000) > > Man, what is with that tone in your title? You talk as though Riot employees spend their time on Reddit and playing games, instead of working. Is that so? My bad. The tone of my title was moreso to talk as though boards members spend their time on Reddit and playing other games, then bitch on here about Riot.
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Rexxiee (NA)
: Another game, another khazix ganking top lane at 2:40 w/ doubles and full health lvl 3
I feel like if its a free 300-400 gold there is something you are doing wrong. EDIT: Also wait a minute you are level 30. And no matter what website i check you havent played a game in 7 months. Care to post a replay of this game to prove its a bug.
: Truely the shittiest aspect of toplane is
Top has always been this easy to gank. And even then with the exception of 2 extra wards and bodies in bot lane it is just as easy to gank as bot, And mid is even worse. And junglers winning top every time does suck, but toplaners winning 1v2 would be even worse. I feel like this post is reaching...
: [Skin idea] Queen Bee Syndra
I want worker bee jarvan SO bad. That sounds awesome.
: If you want Precision to be open to more Mages, we will need another Legend row Rune.
I mean Attack speed isnt USELESS on a mage, being able to reliably last hit saves mana. The only issue is it has to build up over the first 5 to 10min in which case itll get less useful as you get mana.
GigglesO (NA)
: You still missed his point. The things that are complained about are op for MONTHS at a time. Literally Months.
> [{quoted}](name=GigglesO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfAcm17K,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-02-09T04:03:03.063+0000) > > You still missed his point. The things that are complained about are op for MONTHS at a time. Literally Months. What about things that... arent OP, just an idea. Like th emost recent AP QSS. People asking Riot why there isnt one. AP QSS isnt broken it just doesnt exist. What could Riot say to make people NOT want an AP QSS. No amount of you have X and Y already will convince people.
: > [{quoted}](name=AR URF,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=alrMHgxF,comment-id=00050000000000010000,timestamp=2018-02-08T19:31:32.975+0000) > > I find that hard to believe. You'd have to show me evidence because everyone is the same. They get outplayed and they screech about a champ being op. https://clips.twitch.tv/HungrySpookyLorisTBCheesePull ^^^Evidence^^^ "But red side team has 13 kills" Zoe and Ezreal are even in items That was not an "outplay", that was an RQ from Ezreal's fog of war that was a literal oneshot with barely any time to react
> [{quoted}](name=MuffledGarbage,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=alrMHgxF,comment-id=000500000000000100000001,timestamp=2018-02-08T20:04:30.572+0000) > > https://clips.twitch.tv/HungrySpookyLorisTBCheesePull > > ^^^Evidence^^^ > > "But red side team has 13 kills" > > Zoe and Ezreal are even in items > > That was not an "outplay", that was an RQ from Ezreal's fog of war that was a literal oneshot with barely any time to react Wait this is the one-shot everyones talking about? Shes 4/0/4 With 400 farm. Even in items = immune to oneshots. Zoe had a full Ornn-upgraded Rabadons. Any Q from any mage wouldve done AT LEAST 60% of that Ezs HP with just QSS. To be clear I DO think that her Q needs a nerf. But pointing to this as a "see she one-shot him" is just BS of the highest calibur.
Sasogwa (EUW)
: If they come up with good arguments, I don't see why we should be bitching. Otherwise it's just a matter of balancing philosophy and we might disagree on it but it can not be a bad thing if Riot tries to explain themselves and have a discussion. The gameplay thoughts are already a good thing in my opinion. I also think the stereotype 'all boards members just bitch because they suck at the game' kinda needs to go. Most complaints that get upvoted usually make a lot of sense and feature good points.
> [{quoted}](name=Sasogwa,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfAcm17K,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-09T00:53:24.783+0000) > > If they come up with good arguments, I don't see why we should be bitching. > Otherwise it's just a matter of balancing philosophy and we might disagree on it but it can not be a bad thing if Riot tries to explain themselves and have a discussion. The gameplay thoughts are already a good thing in my opinion. > I also think the stereotype 'all boards members just bitch because they suck at the game' kinda needs to go. Most complaints that get upvoted usually make a lot of sense and feature good points. If decent arguments meant anything. Than the posts with opposing views but put decently wouldnt be sitting -10. And the no effort "dis OP" posts wouldnt be as popular as they are.
ƒrøstγ (EUNE)
: Am I dreaming or its really happening?!
This just makes him much harder to start rolling the ball early. Sure an AoE Twitch at 4+ Items is just that. But he'll be WAY easier to fight in lane because of this.
magewick (NA)
: Depends on the response. The boards are either looking for a logical explanation or words to hang riot by. Realistically, everyone wants riot to have good explanations behind their decision making but more and more, they have to settle for quotes that they can point to as the reason why the balance team is failing. If riot said something along the lines of "we understand these following issues a, b, and c and we will commit to addressing these next patch with these specific changes d, e, and f" and all of the explanations make sense, i see no reason why the boards would not be satisfied.
> [{quoted}](name=magewick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfAcm17K,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-08T23:12:28.909+0000) > > Depends on the response. The boards are either looking for a logical explanation or words to hang riot by. Realistically, everyone wants riot to have good explanations behind their decision making but more and more, they have to settle for quotes that they can point to as the reason why the balance team is failing. > > If riot said something along the lines of "we understand these following issues a, b, and c and we will commit to addressing these next patch with these specific changes d, e, and f" and all of the explanations make sense, i see no reason why the boards would not be satisfied. You are right, If they were talking about changing something the boards would be happy. But typically people want explanations on things of WHY things are the way they are. And if Riot is content with how something is. No matter the response they wont be happy.
: Some of us would, some of us won't. The boards is in a constant state of disagreement, so while I would personally love to hear about their thinking and reasoning and everything that goes into making a decision I understand why they realistically can't go into it with us.
> [{quoted}](name=redniwediS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EfAcm17K,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-08T22:56:48.801+0000) > > Some of us would, some of us won't. The boards is in a constant state of disagreement, so while I would personally love to hear about their thinking and reasoning and everything that goes into making a decision I understand why they realistically can't go into it with us. I too would love to hear it, and wouldnt really care as long as they told us. However I know if Riot came out and stated why, a large portion would just completely belittle the entire company for it.
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: [Insert a gif of Rachnera there]
> [{quoted}](name=ZygfrydGamomg,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=piquiAuV,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-02-06T22:57:29.676+0000) > > [Insert a gif of Rachnera there] http://animechan.ru/uploads/posts/2015-08/1440585918_rachnera-arachnera-monster-musume-no-iru-nichijou-anime-arachne-girl-2369259-1.gif Hopefully that worked.
HeHé (EUW)
: Silver player? Check. "Riot balancing is out of control?" Check. Suggests to "nerf everything"? Check. Ayyy, keep it up dude, finishing your degree in game desgin right now or what are you up to?
> [{quoted}](name=HeHé,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LE6rgcVf,comment-id=0030,timestamp=2018-02-07T00:28:56.266+0000) > > Silver player? > Check. > "Riot balancing is out of control?" > Check. > Suggests to "nerf everything"? > Check. > > Ayyy, keep it up dude, finishing your degree in game desgin right now or what are you up to? Ah, dude this is beautiful. I have to say I didnt expect this post to get first page all day. However I will say that I defend Riot over A LOT of shit lately. However even then this post is to moreso point out that people blatantly hating on any 1 group isnt correct. Personally I do think that everyone is doing their own thing a little too well which allows people to bog down and really hate them for that. I just think if everything was toned back a little, the game would be in a better place. Or whatever, go on rank-shaming people i guess, that works too.
: > [{quoted}](name=Skorch,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=baE0nwNk,comment-id=0000000100030000,timestamp=2018-02-06T20:20:39.962+0000) > > YEAROFTHEDOG. Why would they make a skin for the only real Dragon in league, when there IS a Year of the Dragon, for the Year of the Dog. Because 1. His blast is closer to the art they're referring to 2. He's an actual deity so "LORE-WISE" he's more relevant than Lux 3. The year of the dragon is years away so league might not be around 4. Shyvanna can be the dragon when that time comes. Only Nasus and Warwick needed to be a pair. Every other year has had just one animal person.
> [{quoted}](name=SangreDeNoche,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=baE0nwNk,comment-id=00000001000300000001,timestamp=2018-02-06T20:55:19.295+0000) > > Because > 1. His blast is closer to the art they're referring to > 2. He's an actual deity so "LORE-WISE" he's more relevant than Lux > 3. The year of the dragon is years away so league might not be around > 4. Shyvanna can be the dragon when that time comes. Only Nasus and Warwick needed to be a pair. Every other year has had just one animal person. These reasons arent anywhere close to enough to shoehorning in ASol into this years Lunar Revel. I get it he hasnt got a skin yet, its frusterating. But that doesnt mean you shove any champion into any line to make people happy. HE. DIDNT. FIT.
: >Basically they thought I was a good fit thematically. {{champion:163}} ... >a good fit thematically. 1... 8... ######thematically {{sticker:cass-cry}}
> [{quoted}](name=TheMoralSupport,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=baE0nwNk,comment-id=000000010004,timestamp=2018-02-06T21:03:24.246+0000) > > {{champion:163}} ... > > 1... > > 8... > > ######thematically > {{sticker:cass-cry}} Part of the reveal said "When we were picking champions, the reason we sided with lux was mainly due to other fitting champions having skins being made at that time" And there was that leak with SG Taliyah. So im pretty sure Taliyah is getting a skin.
: > [{quoted}](name=Final Spark Lux,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=baE0nwNk,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-02-06T07:18:27.940+0000) > > [Why Riot Picked Lux](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/pcX0wKmd-skin-schedule-is-honestly-so-fucked?comment=0019). Basically they thought I was a good fit thematically. That combined with the fact that I'm popular swayed their decision. Sorry :( I didn't ask for this, it just got handed to me (but I'm not gonna complain.) I'm sure other champions will get their skins soon enough (hopefully ;_;) Um.... Thematically you say? {{champion:136}}
> [{quoted}](name=SangreDeNoche,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=baE0nwNk,comment-id=000000010003,timestamp=2018-02-06T17:48:22.565+0000) > > Um.... Thematically you say? {{champion:136}} YEAROFTHEDOG. Why would they make a skin for the only real Dragon in league, when there IS a Year of the Dragon, for the Year of the Dog.
: I can't decipher, send ~~nudes~~ help.
> [{quoted}](name=Tails9016,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=790txdMb,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-02-06T03:06:41.978+0000) > > I can't decipher, send ~~nudes~~ help. Every capital letter is the first letter in the name of one of the champs. Not to be the guy that explains jokes... It just took me way to long to figure it out I wouldnt want people to suffer.
Mizaya (NA)
: Don't know why this is being downvoted, it's about as real as it gets on here lol. Hate to say it, but support itemization powercreep is most likely the reason why people are mad. They may not realize it but there was once a time when assassins and mages could solo carry if they got fed enough. Not the case now with all the anti-burst in the game. And The increased global gold gain as compared to individual gold gain. Honestly I think Riot should develop more supports/support itemization that will counter the shields/heals etc. Defensive support itemization inherently benefits sustained damage dealers... offensive will benefit assasins, burst mages, etc
> [{quoted}](name=Mizaya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LE6rgcVf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-06T06:03:10.604+0000) > > Don't know why this is being downvoted, it's about as real as it gets on here lol. > > Hate to say it, but support itemization powercreep is most likely the reason why people are mad. They may not realize it but there was once a time when assassins and mages could solo carry if they got fed enough. Not the case now with all the anti-burst in the game. And The increased global gold gain as compared to individual gold gain. > > Honestly I think Riot should develop more supports/support itemization that will counter the shields/heals etc. Defensive support itemization inherently benefits sustained damage dealers... offensive will benefit assasins, burst mages, etc If i had to guess why its being downvoted. Probably because I didnt play a certain angle. I didnt blame 1 sole thing. And as I stated. I think the only way for Riot to fix the game is to just all at once nerf everything.
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noukinn (NA)
: Here's a thought: Why not cut Ranged Crit damage down to 150% instead of 200%?
The issue isnt how crit works. Its simply that they arent balanced right now. And Riot isnt balancing them. And that is negating the fact that Crit is FOR ADC. Not something ADC adapted and abused, which is the reason other things get the reduction.
: Couldn't be more accurate. I miss the assassin meta tbh. ADCs actually had to worry about dying. Now they just instantly blow the assassin up so he/she can't even do their 1 job that they had to begin with. Atleast once an assassin went in and did their rotation, they were done and most likely going to die after. ADCs don't even have to worry about this. They point and auto attack things to death like they are a walking turret.
> [{quoted}](name=Can NOT Support,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=x5TeYJBG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-02-04T23:31:35.262+0000) > > Couldn't be more accurate. I miss the assassin meta tbh. ADCs actually had to worry about dying. Now they just instantly blow the assassin up so he/she can't even do their 1 job that they had to begin with. > > Atleast once an assassin went in and did their rotation, they were done and most likely going to die after. ADCs don't even have to worry about this. They point and auto attack things to death like they are a walking turret. I hate the assassin metas, sure ADC meta sucks, but so does tank metas, mage metas, assassin metas. What i just read was "At least in an assassin meta only the ADC doesnt get to play." No matter the meta 1 group isnt having fun.
: Tristana Rising in Popularity Again...
I agree crit nerfs are probably okay, but i disagree on lowering ult damage to the point of just being self-peel. Sure the execution with ult is a thing that happens, but there is no better feeling than being ulted to safety because she JUST didnt do enough damage. Its very risky like that. As well as the fact that a PEEL ONLY ult feels kind of awful on any champion.
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draecina (NA)
: Why did they remove these?
If i remember they removed the bounty flag because it did nothing. It wouldve taken a lot more coding for the HP bar update to bring it back but it just did nothing. They had hoped it would cause a situation like: "Oh that jungler has a 4 bounty kill him and cash in." But teamfights are teamfights and focus doesnt work like that so they didnt take the added work to bring it back
: Is there any champion you have fun playing against?
Quite literally every champion except {{champion:7}} and {{champion:105}} fuck those 2
Almighty (EUNE)
: Why do the Boards not have a "no clickbait" rule?
Its an M&G post, if you thought it was gonna be a serious Zoe hate thread i dont know what to tell you.
Leonerdo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Skorch,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kT6E9nPL,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2018-02-02T22:13:05.309+0000) > > I recognize that name... > > EDIT: Wait youre Leonerdo from Trins vids, shit i didnt know you were active on here. I rarely comment. I just lurk, read, and vote mostly. Sometimes I rant at strangers on the internet, but I try not to make it a habit.
> [{quoted}](name=Leonerdo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kT6E9nPL,comment-id=000800010000,timestamp=2018-02-02T22:22:13.891+0000) > > I rarely comment. I just lurk, read, and vote mostly. Sometimes I rant at strangers on the internet, but I try not to make it a habit. Probably a good habit. Cool seeing you on here though.
Leonerdo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cloud Walker,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kT6E9nPL,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-02T16:36:30.034+0000)Take for example the last [[Quick Gameplay Thoughts: January 31]],https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/EE1fImt5-quick-gameplay-thoughts-january-31 my comment reached the top, but still, unanswered, why do you think so? It's because they don't have an answer that will satisfy you. It's clear that you are looking for (or demanding) changes to Wukong ASAP. But that's it. You don't give describe any problems that Wukong has, and you don't provide specifics about what you want or why you want it. Nor are you really asking for discussion or insight. You are just demanding changes for your favorite champion and whining that other champions are getting (well-deserved) changes first. I'll give you an answer to your question though: Wukong is in an okay spot right now. In terms of popularity, he's a bit below average in terms of number of players. But those who do play him, play him fairly often. His balance has almost never been a problem, and his kit is pretty decent for how old it is. He could use a touch up (perhaps his passive, although not every passive needs to be impactful), but tbh half of the roster could use a touch up just as much as Wukong. Therefore, he's on Riot's list, but in the middle of it, not at the top. For him to receive work, either 1) Everyone on the list ahead of him would need to be fixed first, 2) His state would have to degrade due to some outside factor, increasing his priority, or 3) Some designer would need to have a good idea for a change that is too good to pass up (i.e. not just number tuning). Besides, if you're just asking for changes for the sake of changes, that sounds like you've gotten bored with Wukong.
> [{quoted}](name=Leonerdo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kT6E9nPL,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2018-02-02T19:35:20.935+0000) > > It's because they don't have an answer that will satisfy you. It's clear that you are looking for (or demanding) changes to Wukong ASAP. But that's it. You don't give describe any problems that Wukong has, and you don't provide specifics about what you want or why you want it. Nor are you really asking for discussion or insight. You are just demanding changes for your favorite champion and whining that other champions are getting (well-deserved) changes first. > > I'll give you an answer to your question though: Wukong is in an okay spot right now. In terms of popularity, he's a bit below average in terms of number of players. But those who do play him, play him fairly often. His balance has almost never been a problem, and his kit is pretty decent for how old it is. He could use a touch up (perhaps his passive, although not every passive needs to be impactful), but tbh half of the roster could use a touch up just as much as Wukong. Therefore, he's on Riot's list, but in the middle of it, not at the top. For him to receive work, either 1) Everyone on the list ahead of him would need to be fixed first, 2) His state would have to degrade due to some outside factor, increasing his priority, or 3) Some designer would need to have a good idea for a change that is too good to pass up (i.e. not just number tuning). > > Besides, if you're just asking for changes for the sake of changes, that sounds like you've gotten bored with Wukong. I recognize that name... EDIT: Wait youre Leonerdo from Trins vids, shit i didnt know you were active on here.
: As of late, the lore power curve has been...kind of out of whack with new champs.
I think the only really powerful person this year was Zoe who lore-wise is probably busted. But the rest not so much. Now im not the biggest lore nerd (hell i didnt even read Ornn) but... {{champion:164}} being a good assassin doesnt really put her into crazy territory as im fairly certain {{champion:55}} and {{champion:91}} are equally good at their job {{champion:498}} and {{champion:497}} as you stated arent too crazy {{champion:141}} is probably close to Zed. SURE he either is a Darkin (so as strong as Aatrox or Varus anyway) or the Shadow Assassin. But that still just makes him a good assassin, we dont REALLY know what shadow powers entail (other than full xenomorphing people) however compared to some of the more powerful characters in lore. {{champion:75}} /{{champion:58}} {{champion:101}} {{champion:136}} {{champion:142}} I dont think Kayn probably holds a candle. Fuck {{champion:420}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:268}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:26}} Just looking through the list. {{champion:516}} now I dont know a lot about demigods. I THINK they can like level mountains and shit. Or at the very least easily take down 100 or so people single handedly. However this being the League of Legends, about half the roster can probably do that and another quarter probably can if we knew more than Sp00ky scarecr0w man {{champion:9}} . And in any case they probably are toe to toe with ascended who are pretty old in terms. And yeah {{champion:142}} is probably the strongest character in the lore and honestly? I wouldnt have it any other way. I find it amusing to have an adhd loli have a space dragon on a leash.
: Did that Thresh hook really hit me? What do you think?
I understand it. Its pretty simple actually. A champions hitbox is much larger than a minions, even if its a smaller champion that looks thin. The weirdest hitboxes are the ones where the tip of the hook (even without the lollipop effect) barely graze the edge of a, for instance, Jinx hitbox. Jinx has one of the smallest models in game that isnt a yordle, but her hitbox probably is very similar to other ADCs. So, as a mastery 7 blitzcrank, mastery 6 morgana, mastery 5 nautilus, and garbage thresh. I can see exactly how that hook hit you.
: > [{quoted}](name=DemainaNyx,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M8H6Pb0L,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-02-01T23:08:04.355+0000) > > It's one of the strange things about hooks. Riot mentioned that at Max range hooks kinda have a ball effect. So it's a thin line when flying through the air, and then a bigger ball at the end. With that in mind, yeah, it hit you. Should it have hit you, I don't think it should but that's how it's scripted. > > It's the same reason that Blitzcrank and Thresh can hook you behind minions some times. Sounds like poor coding they couldn't fix so they left it in as a feature.
> [{quoted}](name=GodEmperorVeigar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M8H6Pb0L,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2018-02-01T23:49:40.461+0000) > > Sounds like poor coding they couldn't fix so they left it in as a feature. How the utter hell would you accidentally code the lollipop effect?
: you know its there otherwise you wouldnt be matched with such shitty teammates at times.
> [{quoted}](name=Moonfall Saber,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wk4qupgA,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-02T01:05:38.564+0000) > > you know its there otherwise you wouldnt be matched with such shitty teammates at times. OR, and this is a crazy concept i know, Matchmaking is random. And your luck for decent teammates is bound to run out sometime.
Addam (OCE)
: Smurfs are ruining the ranked system
The issue with smurfing is not only is it extremely hard to detect, but would also be kind of annoying as people make seperate accounts for many reasons. Smurfs are no where near common, especially since its very easy for them to climb. Of course in Plat there are more than bronze/silver/gold. But by plat i hope you at least you know WHEN you are making a mistake, and can fix that. Sure fighting a smurf sucks but enforcing everyone can only play on 1 account ever is also dumb. The best solution is to just make it EASIER for these people to climb to get them out faster. Also sorry but if you DESERVED high elo, then 1 game against a smurf out of every 20 isnt gonna kill you.
Barkley (NA)
: The 50% forced win rate bullshit has GOT to go.
> [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wk4qupgA,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-02-01T20:21:17.992+0000) > > The 50% forced win rate bullshit has GOT to go. Its hard to remove something that wasnt there in the first place
: I've seen her top lane, and jungle this season actually, as well as mid
> [{quoted}](name=Lios Ashenblade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8kGu09sU,comment-id=001e0001,timestamp=2018-02-01T14:21:00.506+0000) > > I've seen her top lane, and jungle this season actually, as well as mid Im not saying she doesnt go there, Im saying mid is where shes SUPPOSED to be and where she is getting REWORKED to be.
: But their kits aren't meant for poke, except for Xerath, and his comes at the cost of delay and all skill shots. I'd include high mana costs but with Lost Chapter that's not an issue anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=AngusBoomPants,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BzTmjUvw,comment-id=000200010000000000010000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-01T08:40:59.555+0000) > > But their kits aren't meant for poke, except for Xerath, and his comes at the cost of delay and all skill shots. I'd include high mana costs but with Lost Chapter that's not an issue anymore. But she IS burst mage as well. Not a poke mage. Ignoring the fact that ALL mages poke. Because you cant poke someone to death. And also that Zoe's Q is delayed and a skillshot.
nelogis (EUW)
: How to design your own CertainlyT champion 101, THE POST!
Truely the only way up from here is for CertainlyT to release a champ so horrendously broken, and so uncounterable, that all previous champions look like fucking Ashe. Or have someone else do it and for CertainlyT to rework it to seem like a balance god.
Rioter Comments
: Azir, Ryze, Kalista being nerfed for having 100% pick/ban in pro play
: {{champion:122}} But honorable mentions go to champs he redesigned and gave cancer to: {{champion:51}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:82}}
Honestly as problematic Graves sometimes is, kit-wise I think he is much better than old Graves.
: Notice how most burst mages have their burst on a high cool down? Yeah Zoe doesn't. So we keep her "unique kit" and change her style.
Lets look around Im taking into account maxed abilities without CDR for quick math, most burst mages build similarly anyway so just add 40% CDR to every number if you want. {{champion:142}} - depends on if you call just her Q burst (I admit its damage right now is too high) but if we are talking her whole burst with E 14 second CD, Q is 6.25 at max rank. {{champion:63}} Longest CD move W at 8 seconds {{champion:101}} Longest CD move E at 11 {{champion:134}} Longest CD move E at 12 {{champion:99}} Longest CD ability Q at 11 {{champion:1}} Longest CD ability W at 8 {{champion:61}} Longest CD ability W at 9 {{champion:45}} Longest CD ability E at 14 Now sure you can say "Well they need Ult to kill" And i would agree that that is a valid complaint. I havent once denied that her Q is too much damage as it stands right now. However at the same time: All of them have a fairly spammable move that does more damage than 50 as well. And have also seen every single one of them one-shot without ult at 10/0. Something that people complain on Zoe. I will say her Q is too high in damage and needs a nerf, however I also acknowledge the double edged sword that is her ult and the fact that she NEEDS Q+E+P to deal equal damage to the rest of these burst. I ALSO acknowledge that a 2/2 Zoe (especially AFTER a damage nerf) Isnt 1-shotting people with Q like people claim she is. Sure as hell a 8/0 Zoe is, but shes 8/0
: And yet she's being used top almost twice as much as mid... it's almost like balancing a champ around ONE lane is a bad idea... it's almost like the balance team has no clue what they're doing...
True, but Akali isnt a toplaner, nor was Fizz, or Ekko, or anyone else who just ENDED up there. Akali for a toplaner is BRUTAL for melees, because shes not meant to fight them. It is undeniable FACT that Akali has rough laning against ranged. Where she is SUPPOSED to be. Sure you could say "balancing around 1 lane isnt easy" But i counter with Akali has a 50% winrate top, 48% winrate mid and a 49% winrate overall. So she IS balanced around both RIGHT NOW. But they dont think that an assassin should go toe to toe against melee bruisers and tanks so for her REWORK they are trying to push her back to mid with the tools to survive mid so she ISNT fucking top laners, and doesnt need to be an instagibber as long as you survive till 6 Where is the downside again?
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