Rioter Comments
: new client login is AWFUL
Yeah..... this is a big ol' "no" from me, Riot. It's plain, it's boring, it's generic. The dark blues and gold had an almost mystical feel to it. Now this is just generic and businesslike.
Rioter Comments
Zac x Me (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SkyblazeHydraX3,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wAZuLcrO,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-13T23:42:39.054+0000) > I'm similarly usually supportive of Riot- I don't think the game's dying, Then explain AUTOFILL in NORMAL GAMES.
> [{quoted}](name=Zac x Me,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wAZuLcrO,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-08-14T05:11:28.823+0000) > > Then explain AUTOFILL in NORMAL GAMES. People don't like playing support/jungle/etc?
Mythrandill (EUNE)
: I defend Riot in 99.9% of the cases. This time I'm on the 0.1%
Honestly, gotta agree. This just ain't worth it, and Riot's more or less earned the blowback on this. Either there's a lot more to it we're missing, or Riot's gonna have to answer for it. I'm similarly usually supportive of Riot- I don't think the game's dying, I think the boards are too much of a vitriolic, click-baity, hate-mongering echo chamber for Riot to properly communicate, and I honestly believe Riot has the best intentions regarding balance- but this? This is honestly just a cash grab, and it throws a lot of what they've done throughout the year in a rather negative light. But it isn't the first time Riot's faced some negative backlash, and like those times prior I hope they'll listen and concede the point. But given everything that's been going on, I really am starting to think they need to take another look at who's making these kinds of decisions. And **no**, it isn't Tencent. Riot has repeatedly established that Tencent leaves them to their own devices, since Riot knows well enough how to keep their own game running and making money. We would've heard a lot more whistleblowing to the contrary otherwise. It's been years since Tencent bought Riot, people need to get the fuck over it.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=SkyblazeHydraX3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JysHnHZd,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-29T22:25:54.124+0000) > > I think the better way to put it is that they represent two halves of justice, incomplete without the other half to balance them. > > To allow for compassion and redemption in those that have fallen or strayed is without a doubt a worthy cause, but look at Morgana's sympathy for Sylas. Sylas, a man who will see civilians and innocents killed for the sake of his revolution. No price to great, no death count too high. Even if Demacia's flaws and prejudices made him what he is today, his methods do not warrant sympathy for his plight. > > Meanwhile, the flaws behind Kayle's beliefs in rigid, unflinching punishment for wrongdoing has already been thoroughly explored. There is righteousness in fighting for the weak and ensuring the guilty are punished, but to maintain a black and white view of such matters is to resort to extreme measures. > > It's appropriate (or cliche) that the sisters who each inherited half the power of the Aspect of Justice also inherited half of the philosophy for "ideal" justice; punishment for the cruel and the tyrannical, yet compassion for the forlorn and desperate. > > Kayle and Morgana both need each other for the sake of being a moderating influence on the other. Without that, both of them are treading more towards the absolute. Not all who stray from righteousness deserve death, but not all who fall to darkness can or want to be saved. A very nuanced and well said interpretation of the Kayle and Morgana dynamic and the moral complexity therein. I approve.
Much appreciated for the feedback.
: Much much better said than how I put it. I came off pretty one sided on Morgana's behalf but they definitely are two halves of a whole.
Honestly maybe it's because I ingest so much fictional media (especially manga and anime) that the connection between the two sharing half the power and thus "two halves of a whole ideal" came off as obvious and actually rather cliche. But hey, if it tells a good story.
: They want to keep him simaler to old vs yet they gut swain my main to the point were I hate playing him. Thanks Riot
Unfortunately old Swain was thematically unfocused and was unhealthy for the game. "Use point-click damage amp, drop every other spell on the enemy" was what his old gameplay amounted to. And his ult? You either had enough stats to sustain yourself against the enemy, or you didn't. His old ult was a stat stick that had no counterplay to it. Never mind that his old green and gold look didn't remotely fit with Noxus, especially as it was further updated and expanded on. New Swain actually resembles a tactician in both gameplay (placement of his W, aiming his E, knowing when and where to use Q and R to maximum effect) and look (practical Noxian military attire) while maintaining his ult **in a healthy form**(period of health drain that comes to an end, and can be played around by knowing when to back off and wait it out or outnumber since he can only drain up to three enemies). Swain, Galio, Akali, Irelia, and even old Aatrox were all fundamentally unhealthy for the game because they were reliant entirely on "half enough stats to do this thing" with minimal room for outplay on the part of the enemy team. Yes some of them are balance headaches _ even now_, but that's because of a gap in player ability. A run of the mill player who picks them up is likely to have a difficult, even frustrating time of it, but someone who has mastered these champions, knowing the when the where and the how, can be a downright **god**. Either way it's frustrating, but I'd take "outplayed me and knew their champion mechanics" over "would've killed me whether I played perfectly or went to the toilet because they had better stats" any day of the week.
: > [{quoted}](name=Darius Strada,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JysHnHZd,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-29T18:42:28.551+0000) > > Morgana is not good. The fact that you think Morgana is good just reveals how good of a manipulator she is. I don't know where you've been but Morgana is absolutely the good one. Kayle represents "Absolute Justice". This is a black and white view where only good and evil exist. If you do not follow their rules absolutely then you are evil and must be punished. Punishment being death. Morgana represents "True Justice". She sees the potential that individual people have for good, evil, and the grey area inbetween. You may be a bad person but you still have a chance to be a better one. The world is not black and white. Absolute Justice is not justice. It's corrupt at it's core and assumes that everybody either follows the rules or is evil. But rules are not inherently good. Not every rule is meant to be good or just. Morgana rebels against Absolute Justice for she believes that people can always atone and become better people. She is definitely not the evil one.
I think the better way to put it is that they represent two halves of justice, incomplete without the other half to balance them. To allow for compassion and redemption in those that have fallen or strayed is without a doubt a worthy cause, but look at Morgana's sympathy for Sylas. Sylas, a man who will see civilians and innocents killed for the sake of his revolution. No price to great, no death count too high. Even if Demacia's flaws and prejudices made him what he is today, his methods do not warrant sympathy for his plight. Meanwhile, the flaws behind Kayle's beliefs in rigid, unflinching punishment for wrongdoing has already been thoroughly explored. There is righteousness in fighting for the weak and ensuring the guilty are punished, but to maintain a black and white view of such matters is to resort to extreme measures. It's appropriate (or cliche) that the sisters who each inherited half the power of the Aspect of Justice also inherited half of the philosophy for "ideal" justice; punishment for the cruel and the tyrannical, yet compassion for the forlorn and desperate. Kayle and Morgana both need each other for the sake of being a moderating influence on the other. Without that, both of them are treading more towards the absolute. Not all who stray from righteousness deserve death, but not all who fall to darkness can or want to be saved.
: Death Recap Update on PBE!
I think if you moved the percentage to something that only shows when you scroll over the pie chart, that might free up space. As an aside, _please_ make sure the new death recap can show everything, not just the top three. If the whole enemy team jumps me at red buff, I'd like to be able to see everything that was popped, and how much of it was the buff itself.
: I think there was some general amusement on the day... since then, it's hardly come up.
That's a little surprising, since I figure that would have become a "thing" for people to bring up and tease you about. Well since you're here, maybe I can ask an actual question about the lore and story of the series; anything planned for my favorite fiendish bug Kha'Zix? Aside from his rivalry with Rengar he's never really gone anywhere or actually had **any** involvement in the larger lore. I know you can't spoil any stories or give much in the way of details, but do you think we'll see anything about League's voidreaver any time in the near future?
: . . .I am not able to answer that question without delving deep into a world of BDSM that I'm most certain will violate the ToU of these boards. :P But I can say, with a female Ascended champion (keep in mind, Ascended see themselves as vastly superior beings, which is why I bring myself to this conclusion I'm making), she would likely run (and mind you, this is *very generic* in my outlook) as some form of dominatrix...and Reddit will tear them asunder. I'd imagine someone similar to Soul Calibur's Ivy, but with a LoL/Shuriman twist, and all the people will more than likely refer immediately to this being canon, particularly with your reminder. xD
I'm pretty sure it's not so much one's clothing that is decided upon Ascending as it is ones build and appearance. Nasus for example is very humanoid, compared to say what Renekton probably looks like. They're both powerfully built and imposing, but Renekton is the one that looks downright beastly. A female Ascended would, in all likelihood, be the epitome of beauty, grace, and power. An out n' out animalistic Amazon. State of dress would probably vary depending on design and sex appeal, since we don't know how much the Shuriman sun really affects the Ascended.
: Sorry to hear that - Happy Birthday anyway!
A Rioter wishing me happy birthday? Well, that's another nice little boon. Thank you and much appreciated. Still gonna make sure people remember this, because it's that hilarious. Does anyone bring it up or give you shit for it inside the company? Any comments from coworkers?
: I mean...wouldn't you be a bit scared of what would happen with that being canon? I don't think it's something that's a matter of admission or not, more than it is an understood "your move, Riot Design Team!"
I mean they knew what they were getting into with Zoe, and I'm sure they know what people have already done to Yuumi. What else is there to be afraid of?
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Blessing and curse at the same time. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
: There's still not a moment that goes by that I don't remember why Riot's now a little scared to make a femme-Ascendee. xD
Are they actually? Have they actually said as much?
: Forget? We're basing the next five years of storytelling on it! {{sticker:vlad-salute}} (I am obliged to point out that this is a joke.)
Shitty start to my birthday because of a fight with friends that got pretty raw, and then I see this post. A much-needed pick me up, that's for sure. And yeah, after that canonizing you're gonna have to be real clear on what's a joke and what isn't. You dodged a bullet when it came to the origin of Yordles.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: I am the one responsible for all of this.
: Eh. For me it's difficult to totally sympathize for Veigar's torment when his torture was only ever implied and conveyed in the third-person, if it was first-person then the severity of Mordekaiser probably feel a lot more inpactful. Plus the consequences of his time spent in the Bastion is just comedic, which is fine and hilarious but that's not a sincere trauma.
I wouldn't really call it comedic. Veigar's time in the Bastion warped him so much he can't even remember his past, or why he initially came to the mortal realm. His desire to learn and study celestial magic with the mages of the human world. All he can remember is the pain, suffering, and torment that he was afflicted with and forced to inflict upon others. Imagine spending so many decades or centuries being forced to torture and terrorize, to the point you can't remember anything else. That's what Veigar is right now, underneath all the camp and hilarity. Trying to be an evil overlord is all he knows.
: > [{quoted}](name=SkyblazeHydraX3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AsWfjBVH,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-20T00:04:07.082+0000) > > Reading Veigar's bio also explains a fair bit that makes him a potentially even bigger threat to Mordekaiser; the fact that Morde used Veigar's magic and enchantments for his conquests. Some of them were just "terror for terror's sake", but others had actual purpose and factored into powering Mordekaiser to "nigh-immortality". And if Veigar's the one who cast those enchantments, he's the one most likely to be able to bypass and/or remove them. > > There's also another factor that adds yet another layer of irony; how did Mordekaiser make sure Veigar couldn't escape? By **binding him to the mortal realm.** Mordekaiser's magic keeps Veigar from going back to Bandle City, but I'd bet good money that it also means Mordekaiser can't pull Veigar into his Death Realm at will. Not without first undoing the initial binding and giving Veigar a free pass on inter-dimensional travel. > > .....And that's terrifying in its own right. it's amazing how such a seemingly small unforeseen consequence can be your own undoing in the end, possibly. if it ever goes down in such a way, I could easily see mordekaiser going from amused to complete, raging disbelief as Veigar shows what he has learned over the years
Given all he's seen, learned, planned for, and put to work building his undead empire? I could see Mordekaiser's initial response being very incredulous, then increasingly annoyed and infuriated that a blind spot such as that slipped by him. He'd probably be just arrogant enough to assume that after all the terror and torture, Veigar would remain a scared little fluffball to weak and meager to be a threat. Now he's implied to be a very real magical powerhouse, even if his disposition is campy and hard to take seriously. Plus the sheer aggravation that a tiny little furball could be his match. Mordekaiser would, in that moment, be every toplaner ever in their first fight against Teemo.
: Well now we have definitive proof that the lore is contradictory. Iโ€™m willing to believe in space dragons, a mage killing kingdom that worshipped magic sisters, and even immortal mini furries that are supposedly good but donโ€™t seem to actually benefit any society they live in. I can accept all that. But if you expect me to believe that a guy like Aatrox has the power to choose his own form, and chose to make himself a Ken doll, well, then you ask too much of me. My suspension of disbelief can only be stretched so far and no further.
The Darkin used to be able to do that. But after they were sealed in their weapons, it's all they can do to make bodies that are "memories" of what they used to look like. And even then, those aren't perfect replicas. Given Aatrox is looking to end the world and all creation so he can finally die, I'm pretty sure he doesn't really bother trying to remember anything about his reproductive organs.
: > [{quoted}](name=SkyblazeHydraX3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AsWfjBVH,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T22:02:43.061+0000) > > I doubt Mordekaiser will win, if only because of the sheer scale that would involve. It would mean Mordekaiser successfully fusing the mortal realm with his own death realm, giving him essentially total control and dominion over everything. Every character, ever champion, would have to succumb and bend to his will. > > Great if you wanna go for a bad end, not so great if you wanna keep telling interesting stories and keep people invested in the lore. > > At most Mordekaiser might be revived and get close to victory, but at that point I expect Veigar to show up, recall the hell Mordekaiser put him through, and then unleash his own special arcane hell on the iron tyrant until Mordekaiser is faced with either defeat or total destruction. > > Or hell, maybe Veigar follows Mordekaiser into his death realm and then blows it the fuck up for a mutual kill. oh I for sure dont expect Mordekaiser to win (as long as he does some real damage and goes out awesomely I'm fine). the sheer irony of Veigar being the bane of Mordekaiser is just too good to pass up though (also did you see my post again? I edited it at the bottom) and a mutual kill would be not only awesome but potentially very emotional
Reading Veigar's bio also explains a fair bit that makes him a potentially even bigger threat to Mordekaiser; the fact that Morde used Veigar's magic and enchantments for his conquests. Some of them were just "terror for terror's sake", but others had actual purpose and factored into powering Mordekaiser to "nigh-immortality". And if Veigar's the one who cast those enchantments, he's the one most likely to be able to bypass and/or remove them. There's also another factor that adds yet another layer of irony; how did Mordekaiser make sure Veigar couldn't escape? By **binding him to the mortal realm.** Mordekaiser's magic keeps Veigar from going back to Bandle City, but I'd bet good money that it also means Mordekaiser can't pull Veigar into his Death Realm at will. Not without first undoing the initial binding and giving Veigar a free pass on inter-dimensional travel. .....And that's terrifying in its own right.
Terozu (NA)
: Meteor is typically a small scale meteor shower. Occasionally it's one large meteor. And only in FF7 is it that huge and destructive. Oh also 12 i think.
: why the downvotes? it's just good natured humor
Disgusting Childish Wrong board Juvenile Riding on the popularity of an old post Calling out/insulting a Rioter Quite a few possible reasons. But it really is just good-natured humor. ~~Plus none of my friends would ever let me live it down if I said something like this.~~
: > [{quoted}](name=SkyblazeHydraX3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AsWfjBVH,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-19T21:02:51.815+0000) > > Obviously, Veigar's chosen to embody evil incarnate. That seems to be his conscious declaration, at least. But at the same time he asserts that evilness by going out of his way to take out anyone else who might challenge his status as the most evil thing there's ever been. Which, knowing what we do about Mordekaiser and his conquests, may have been inspired by the tyrant's planning; taking out whatever and whoever Mordekaiser needed to in order to get the knowledge he required to build his empire. > > But Yordles by all accounts seem to be innately- at least somewhat- decent creatures, even if they've got flaws like anyone else. Whatever Veigar is doing consciously, I can't help but wonder what's really going on in his scrambled, traumatized little head. Hell for all we know, maybe he's trying to make sure another Mordekaiser never happens again. > > .....Which is another thing to keep in mind, actually; just how **old** Veigar is. Mordekaiser's second conquest was **ancient**, before the founding of Noxus, and that had to have been the period of time in which Veigar was kidnapped and tortured. And it's been millenia since then, to the point most people have forgotten Mordekaiser even existed. And Veigar **is still around.** > > Keeping that timeline in mind really throws a whole new spin on what Veigar's doing, and makes me wonder exactly what he's been doing in all this time. I sorta meant before mordekaiser got him, but i was very unclear so my apologies. anyway, that's a very good analysis. Veigar is most definitely filled with some of the most potential as a character, what he has been doing, his state of mind and willpower, I would love a novella for this character or some more stories involving him. if he ever gets a VO update it would be nice to show off his goofyness have double meaning through his horrible past. also I dont know why, but while I really want Mordekaiser to win (even though I want Swain just as much to ultimately triumph over all odds), it would be awesome if Veigar becomes a threat that even mordekaiser would recognize, a sorta spanner in the works if you will. EDIT: perhaps it would be even more tragic if his sub-conscious moral center was purely vestigial, the last remnant of the Viegar that used to be
I doubt Mordekaiser will win, if only because of the sheer scale that would involve. It would mean Mordekaiser successfully fusing the mortal realm with his own death realm, giving him essentially total control and dominion over everything. Every character, ever champion, would have to succumb and bend to his will. Great if you wanna go for a bad end, not so great if you wanna keep telling interesting stories and keep people invested in the lore. At most Mordekaiser might be revived and get close to victory, but at that point I expect Veigar to show up, recall the hell Mordekaiser put him through, and then unleash his own special arcane hell on the iron tyrant until Mordekaiser is faced with either defeat or total destruction. Or hell, maybe Veigar follows Mordekaiser into his death realm and then blows it the fuck up for a mutual kill.
Terozu (NA)
: Hey that's only in FF7.
Oh, my bad. But isn't it a really strong spell in any FF game? Hell, I'm sure that in FF14 it's a limit break.
Jamaree (NA)
: OH THIS POST WAS THE BEST, SEEING THE MENTAL OF A RIOTER COLLAPSE WAS AMAZING XD
It was honestly hilarious to read, and I love that this was actually made canon. All jokes aside though, I'd love for more Rioters to be willing to answer odd and mundane questions like this.
Thilmer (EUW)
: Bold of you assuming Kled is crazy because of isolation.
I mean Riot outright said it's the isolation (and mushroom juice), since Yordles are naturally social creatures and more or less _have_ to surround themselves with people to prevent going nuts. Hell, I'm pretty sure it's part of Teemo's lore that his scouting and isolation more or less has him on the brink.
Terozu (NA)
: "Redditor" ... Get out. Get the flip a dip dip out.
Nah, think I'll stay. Been here since Season 3.
  Rioter Comments
: I completely agree. Veigar has possibly gone through the most unimaginable torture than any other character we have seen. it means not only has he become truly tragic, but in a way Iron-willed. I do wonder though. Kled embodies Noxia, specifically the bravado of the newly recruited soldier (and I assume that's why Skaarl behaves in such a way, being two spirit creatures made her affected by yordle magic). however now he is a perversion of such values, having been isolated so long. so what did Veigar choose to embody, if anything? or was he like Tristana before being twisted by Mordekaiser?
Obviously, Veigar's chosen to embody evil incarnate. That seems to be his conscious declaration, at least. But at the same time he asserts that evilness by going out of his way to take out anyone else who might challenge his status as the most evil thing there's ever been. Which, knowing what we do about Mordekaiser and his conquests, may have been inspired by the tyrant's planning; taking out whatever and whoever Mordekaiser needed to in order to get the knowledge he required to build his empire. But Yordles by all accounts seem to be innately- at least somewhat- decent creatures, even if they've got flaws like anyone else. Whatever Veigar is doing consciously, I can't help but wonder what's really going on in his scrambled, traumatized little head. Hell for all we know, maybe he's trying to make sure another Mordekaiser never happens again. .....Which is another thing to keep in mind, actually; just how **old** Veigar is. Mordekaiser's second conquest was **ancient**, before the founding of Noxus, and that had to have been the period of time in which Veigar was kidnapped and tortured. And it's been millenia since then, to the point most people have forgotten Mordekaiser even existed. And Veigar **is still around.** Keeping that timeline in mind really throws a whole new spin on what Veigar's doing, and makes me wonder exactly what he's been doing in all this time.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hvsao,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AsWfjBVH,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-19T19:44:02.134+0000) > > In the long run who would win the battle for the title of supreme evil overlord? Mordekaiser or Veigar? Well, I'm biased - but is it really a title if there's no-one left alive to call you by it?
You joke, but if Veigar is even half as powerful in lore as he can be in game I would be legitimately terrified of the sheer amount of damage he'd unleash. I mean in D&D Meteor is a level 9 spell, and in Final Fantasy it's basically a world-ender that takes a lot of effort to cast. And Veigar drops them like they're nothing as one of his **basic spells**. Never mind twisting time and space to form his stun gate, or channeling the equivalent of a **Big Bang** for his ultimate. I don't know what you guys are planning for lore, but I'm certain of this; if Veigar is ever in a serious story as anything except comic relief, his magic is probably going to terrify absolutely everyone. .....Shit now I'm waiting for the reunion between Mordekaiser and Veigar, and the Iron Revenant finding that his former plaything now backs a very real punch.
: " i like my music" was the best thing to spam with him RIP
Maybe, but at the same time it emphasizes the difference between pre- and post-VGU Mordekaiser.
: What do you mean? Veigar *IS* truly malicious and entirely competent!
Holy shit, an actual Rioter response to my measly little post about lore. I mean I suppose you're not **wrong**. He is malicious sure, and he's competent. He's just not competent at being malicious.
: People still care about lore? dang
"Story" part of "Story, Art, and Sound".
  Rioter Comments
Emo Twink (OCE)
: Qiyana Splash WIP vs Final
Honestly? The WIP's head looks too small.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 7
How are you guys feeling about the void bug {{champion:121}} Kha'Zix? He's one of those champions that tends to go unmentioned and without much attention on Riot's end of things. Any thoughts on {{champion:107}} Rengar, who's historically been a balance and gameplay problem child? Think you guys would put more work to him given the opportunity, or is he fine as-is?
fifek900 (EUNE)
: if that were the case then why is he ripped and nuitricioned as fuck in Lux's Issue? {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
Because it's a comic and they want Sylas to still be recognizable to the readers, rather than going through the extra effort of painting a dirty, weak, starving man as a true and legitimate threat. Sylas, for all his arguably well-meaning goals, is a villain and a bad guy. He doesn't care about innocents caught in the crossfire, he doesn't care if your only sin is being a simple worker for a noble house; he will kill you in order to bring Demacia down and remake it into a kingdom where mages like him are accepted. With that in mind, they probably had to make sure that, after all the displays of innocent people, starved and tortured, Sylas stood out as a bad guy. As someone who deserves to be behind those bars. Especially for people who don't actively play or keep up with League.
: Why is Sylas so ripped?
Because the Sylas we have isn't "ragged and messy, just broke out of prison the day before" Sylas, which his splashart might imply. The Sylas we have is "broke out many months ago, to the point he's been able to set up his own rebellion with a large number of Demacian mages". He probably keeps the rags and the shirtless look for the same reason he keeps the petricite chains; symbolism for how Demacia has treated those born with magic, and their current sorry state.
: Actual real life picture of MM when the release hit. https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/077/so_good.png
IIRC MM was actually part of the design and creation process for Morde.
: So Morde looks amazing, but...
I AM THE FOURTH VOTE FOR "4 FOR THE FOUR GOD" OPTION. DO NOT VOTE FOR THAT ONE ANY FURTHER.
: Just report them. Riot will get to them eventually. And also remember to mute them. This is how we can help our community.
Oh I immediately muted the Jhin, but Aatrox started talking shit at the end of the game. Like he was some hot shit himself, barely managing against Olaf (fuck Olaf and all he stands for by the way), judging me for going 2/8 against a Shaco and telling me to never play Kha'Zix (my main) again. Just.... UGH. I so wish I took psychology or speech classes, just so that I could rip into these people. Expose them for the insecure, childish filth they are and make them realize just how small and pitiful they are. ....Yes I get angry at shit talkers, what's your point?
Rioter Comments
: >or lose 1-3 LP **and some honor**. Who said that?
I'm pretty sure you lose honor for dodging games. I don't quite recall where I heard that, but I'm pretty sure it happens.
Rioter Comments
: Patch 9.10 notes
Seriously? STILL nothing on fixing the bug with Kha'Zix's ult? Y'know, the one where if you evolve R and then die, you revert back to your pre-R colors? The one that happens to Kha'Zix on every skin, every game, without failure or exception? The one that has been around for almost three months now?? C'mon Riot, at least say something about it!
: Well first, which version of the alignment system? They're all slightly (or even majorly) different. From the originals view where it's only a wilderness vs civilization dichotomy to the more nuanced and contradictory 3e. The current 5e's alignment is similar to 3e but they dealt with the more glaring contradictions by not bringing them up at all. In the original D&D, Sylas is Neutral. Because there are only two extremes: Chaotic and Lawful, where Lawful actually represents civilization and honor while Chaotic represents animalistic, monsters, and the wilderness. Sylas is not honorable but he's also not aligned with the goblins. So he's Neutral. In AD&D, Sylas is True Neutral. The version of the alignment system in AD&D is worded in such a way that intentions matter, so because Sylas' actions are motivated by the desire to do good, he is not evil. He's also not good, because murder. The Lawful/Chaos dichotomy wasn't changed from the original so he's still not aligned with the goblins, so he's Neutral. In 2e, Sylas is Neutral Evil. In 2e we see Neutrality (on the good/evil alignment) shift into a weird morally blank running on instinct definition that does not fit Sylas. Evil, however, is defined as just not being good. Where good is defined as honesty, forthrightness, forgiveness, and being charitable. None of which describe Sylas. So he's evil. Chaotic has finally shifted away from just being a stand in for monstrous and wilderness, so you'd think one would put Sylas as Chaotic, however, Chaotic Evil is really strangely tied with being self-defeating and of low intelligence. And while I may believe that Sylas' actions are kinda self-defeating, he isn't stupid. Neutral Evil, however, fits well enough. They have no problem betraying their friends for personal gain, is in the description which describes the big moments in his story. In 3e, Sylas is Chaotic Evil. So 3e is probably the alignment with the most written about it, and the most strange oddities and contradictions. Which fits 3e pretty well, I love it, but I also avoid using Grappling rules because I don't feel like reading through it every time. In any case, 3e makes a push for specific actions being what determines someone's alignment. With certain actions, such as murder, almost being worth "evil points" the same is true for "chaos" points. The intention does not really matter as much in 3e. And Sylas by my reckoning has lied and manipulated a lot (earning a bunch of chaos points as lying is a chaotic action), and murdered a lot of people that by our standards seem innocent (earning a lot of evil points). It's worth noting though, that, technically in this edition being Lawful does not mean following the government. But it does determine how someone can act to be in open rebellion. For example, Princess Leia from Star Wars was a rebel, she was also Lawful Good. Because she strived for order and honor within her rebellion and was trying to create a lawful society. Sylas isn't a rebel in that way. He seems to rule his rebellion through browbeating people, which also is a mark of Chaotic Evil. In 4e, Sylas is either Good or Evil. 4e's alignment is weird. It really goes Super Good, Good, Unconcerned, Evil, Super Evil. Sure Super Good is called Lawful Good, and Super Evil is called Chaotic Evil, but the nuance of what makes a lawful or chaotic character is gone. In any case, Sylas doesn't really fit the definitions of any alignment perfectly. Unaligned means specifically not taking a stand, Sylas very much does not fit that. Evil is described as using rules to maximize personal gain, and nope. Good meanwhile gives a brief passage about the dangers of following laws that exploit others which seems to fit Sylas well, until you get to the part of not harming the unarmed and defending weakness. And remember, Sylas is a murderer. So he doesn't fit that either. It really depends on which part of Sylas you wish to emphasize. Though, personally, I think he's too complicated to fit into 4es surprisingly restrictive and limited system. In 5e, Sylas is Chaotic Evil or Chaotic Good. So a return to the more interesting and complex alignments, however 5e does not seek to rigorously define everything about alignments and leaves a lot to player and GM interpretation. 5e's alignment is also a bit more motivated by the emotional state and meaning behind the actions taken than 3e was. We also kind of lose the, what I consider great, differentiation between Lawful and following the government. Now the description of Lawful in general does say that being lawful does not necessarily mean following the laws, but then literally every description of a lawful character defines them by following the laws of society. So, Sylas not Lawful. The intentionality really takes effect on the Good/Evil axis. So we get things like "Good is not nice" and "Chaotic Good try to help others, without care for what people think about their behavior" which, yeah that's Sylas. But Chaotic Evil "are destructive and take pride in the damage they cause" which, yeah that's Sylas. Amusingly, he does not fit the Chaotic Neutral alignment at all which is defined by whimsy and lacking maliciousness, which is not Sylas.
......But what would he be in Pathfinder?
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