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: Can they be cheaper than 3150? Practice makes perfect on Nidalee. You're either really good at her or you're anywhere from decent to fail at playing her. You have to dedicate time into playing that champ really well. Be good at landing spears. As for 3150 junglers- {{champion:35}} is fun to play and you can be really creative while playing him. {{champion:79}} is a staple among high elo picks, offers excellent gank potential and you can really tilt people in low elo's by doing well on this champ. 1350- {{champion:5}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:77}} are really good for low-elo pubstomping but you need to be fully aware about how much damage you can dish out vs. how much you can take. {{champion:14}} gets extremely tanky, and theoretically his clears aren't the best but he offers pretty great gank advantage early-mid game. One big drawback about Sion is that if you reach late game he becomes a walking meat shield and can be rather easy to avoid taking damage from. {{champion:33}} if you're decent at timing, you can do well on Rammus. {{champion:28}} excellent for surprise buttsex, but you need to be creative when playing her, just like Shaco. Hope this helps
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Borkahn (NA)
: 1v1'd Rengar's who were two levels higher than me and won. I'm telling you if I land my W a rengar is finished.
lol yea I played rengar quite a bit and i feel like you have to be hugely ahead to do anything but could just be me. I've had games where i've gone 17 and 0 on rengar and then games where i just could assasinate people at all idk. Dont like not being able to throw traps midair.
: Honestly, I'm not really sure about Udyr's current state. I haven't been able to play a lot in the last couple weeks and people are still banning him pretty much every game. I don't believe the nerfs will affect my play-style overly much though. I'm not quite as reliant on base damages since I build Devourer (instead of Runic Echoes) on him, so I can still punch people to death fairly reliably. Boots of Swiftness (Alacrity), Sated Devourer, Iceborn Gauntlet and Spirit Visage should still be a strong build. You should still be fine if you know how to farm, control objectives and split-push. on Udyr. ------------------------ Sejuani is pretty fun to play IMO. She has quite few similarities to Amumu in play-style and abilities, but she has a couple advantages over him: her Q is unconditional mobility and her ultimate can be used from a distance for engage/disengage/lock-down. Though, I do have Poro Rider Sejuani. Part of the enjoyment is watching the adorable poro crushing all who oppose you.
Intresting, I'll try this out. And secondly gotta love poro rider i feel like thats a must have for sejuani. I'll give her a swing i guess. Ty
Borkahn (NA)
: Try {{champion:56}} . He can be built both {{item:3932}} or {{item:1409}} though his true power lies in being sated since he is able to proc his passive much more. I usually build this on him {{item:3932}} {{item:3153}} ({{item:3065}} {{item:3742}} in some order) {{item:3071}} boots depending on more mr or armor needed plus are the more Auto based or cc based. {{item:3111}} {{item:3047}} If really ahead I sometimes build black cleaver before the resistance. Edit: one can also build {{item:1408}} on him though in my opinion it is the weakest of the 3. However {{item:1410}} is always a no go. No reason to build that on {{champion:56}} I take Ad reds with flat armor seals and mr per level glphys with AS quints. Start Q, W, E (sometimes start W if they have a blitzcrank or thresh who wants to invade. Max R>Q>E>W What separates the good {{champion:56}} from the great {{champion:56}} lies in the ability to use your W active effectively.
: I honestly enjoy Udyr, Gragas, Rek'sai and Sejuani. They are all quite consistently strong, versatile and influential.
were the udyr nerfs severe enough to make him unusable? Never played sejuani i'll give her a try i guess. Thanks
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MigYalle (NA)
: Early game Wukong gets heavily dominated, he has trouble in the jungle in terms of clearing, clear speed, sustain, and getting invaded. However his ganks have an extremely high potential on all lanes after level 6, this plus adding the fact he can build according to how the enemy team is faring vs. your laners could also be very beneficial, I would recommend him if your safe from being invaded.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Davey Jay,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7Ty4yY3z,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-04-07T18:42:35.621+0000) > > I'd say dive right in. A lot of people view ranked climbing as a goal to attain, a badge of honor to grind towards. I however view my rating as my current skill level. I don't cheese the system or abuse mechanics to win win win, I just play the way I always play and let my rank sort itself out. No benefit in artificially inflating my rating. Just play and you'll naturally climb/get better. This ^ is a completely valid point of view as well. The real answer depends on what you want out of the game. I disagree with this poster because this method of play will not get me what I want out of the game. But there is nothing wrong with approaching ranked ques with this mindset. I personally view ranked as a way to measure myself against everyone else when I'm at my best. So I play normals to break in/learn new champs that I want to eventually play in ranked, or when I'm feeling tired or just want to play something casually that's fun, but not great in the meta, like jungle Galio or something. I only play ranked games in my best roles with my best champs. I know I'll never make the LCS, and I'll probably never even make Diamond, but I like to only play ranked when I'm at my best and really try to push my ranking up each season, becoming a better player and trying to get into a higher percentile of the community each time. I get a sense of accomplishment from finding out what works in the meta and finding strategies that improve my chances of winning in each patch. I think a lot of people who take ranked games "seriously" share this feeling. However, it is still a game, and unless you are one of the 700ish people out of 70 million who plans to make a living off of playing this game, your personal view of ranked games will also impact when you should start playing them. My advice above will get you to a higher ranking than this poster's will, but that doesn't mean my view is right and his is wrong. It depends on what you personally want out of the game.
Thank you guys so much. I've really gotten some insight into the game and honestly I'll probably play some ranked games occasionly but only when I'm playing particularly well. I'll probably end up playing quite a few more normals in between getting better at secondary champions for my two roles. Again, thanks so much for everyone's advice
: Play ranked when: 1) you can say (at least roughly) what every champion in the game's spells are and how they work. REASON: Otherwise you're going to get into a game and be up against Illoai or something and there are going to be tentacles fricken everywhere and you won't know why the hell they keep spawning on you. You don't want to lose just because you can't say what the opponents kit is made up of. 2) You have at least 3 "main" champs in two "main" roles that you can play reliably and have runes/masteries for. REASON: You have to learn 2 roles because of que system. If one champ is banned in your role and one champ is picked, you're screwed if you can't play at least 3 at a good level. (2) just takes time and focused practice. Same with (1), but with (1) you have to be more intentional. Whenever there is a champ in the free rotation you've never played a game with que up a bot game and play through it to learn his/her kit. ARAMs can also be fun low stress environments to round out your general knowledge of the champs when your owned+free champs pool is large enough. In the end, once your ready, start playing ranked. Expect to get placed lower than you deserve at first due to the initial placement system and RNG. If you play enough games over the course of the season you'll get to where you belong. Just have a positive attitude and remember that, for every game you get stuck with a rage quitting 12 year old and lose pointlessly, there will be a game where the other team has a rage quitting 12 year old and you win without effort. The important thing is to stay positive, play your best, and to get in enough games to balance out the random fluctuations of match making.
Jeez man I wish there was a +rep (if there is ignore this) thanks a lot for the tips man I do feel like I know most of the in meta champs but still learning about others thank you man.
Dukues (NA)
: You going to want to play a couple hundred normal games probably. I guess "depends" is a good answer. If you want to learn the game and how ranked works then playing ranked is the best way to do that. Not that you are going to be playing with world class players or always seeing world class skills but at least in ranked everyone should want to try and win. Normal is a good way to learn champions and some matchups but a lot of players play normal to try champions out or try new strategies so they are not always playing at their "best". It also depends on if you are planning on playing competitively and really want to climb. You are pretty much guaranteed to to placed a low ranking and are going to have to rank up. You have to realize this is ok and it is part of the game.
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: I typically go to champion.gg or probuilds.com when I'm looking for cookie-cutter builds/runes/masteries/skill order, etc. A very basic AD page would look something like: AD reds, AD quints, flat armor yellows, flat MR blues. I'm pretty sure that will work ok for the 4 champs you listed
Borkahn (NA)
: Rune setups will differ for at least 3 of them and maybe all four. I would check mobafire as they have great STARTING POINTS to know what is good where and then EXPAND from there.
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