: A note to Devs that may not be paying attention: The rage posts seem more serious this time.
I wonder when game devs will realize that if you cater too heavily to the pro scene, you lose your player base that makes the pro scene even worth while. I get that you don't balance around low leagues, but don't design the entire game around pro play, that just makes it shit for everyone else. The amount of people that don't play league but watch it has got to be a minority, and they aren't going to break ground and turn it into the next big thing by alienating everyone who already plays.
Rioter Comments
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: There is a build few ppl know but is devastating if there aren't many tanks. It makes yi stupid to deal with as he instakills squishies. Here it goes: {{item:3715}} > {{item:1001}} > {{item:3147}} > {{item:3087}} > {{item:3036}} > {{item:1419}} > {{item:3124}} > sell {{item:1001}} > {{item:3071}}/{{item:3078}}
: Easy easy to wreck Yi with the following champs; {{champion:62}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:23}} Trundle Volibear Mordekaiser Akali Cho'gath {{champion:420}} Aatrox Kayn {{champion:119}} Garen {{champion:80}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:17}} full AP Swain {{champion:91}} Annie Syndra {{champion:131}} Rammus {{champion:98}} Amumu with Sunfire and Thornmail
Yeah, unless Yi is abusing Taric/Lulu mid, I consider him free LP. Most of the people you hear complain are Bronze-Gold where he only builds full damage, which makes it ridiculously easy to win against him.
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I8YnNeeW,comment-id=003d00000000,timestamp=2018-06-20T16:06:49.885+0000) > > Okay. You lose DPS against him. So just fucking burst the guy. Drop Tibbers on him, land a charm on him, put the space aids on him while someone else shoots him. All of this kills him *very* fast. > > Also, he still loses the DPS battle to Jax. Trynd, I believe, too. Irelia should also stomp him in. Can't really land a charm or stun because it takes only one tank to engage the enemy team (they will already use their stun abilities and Master Yi will be free to instakill everybody. Also he has a Q that dodges everything and the item he builds + the ultimate . His Q resets in incredible short time and then spam it again
: After 4 years I have learned the boards are correct more than Riot when it comes to balance
LOL, omg this post is rich, lol. Rofl, boards right on balance more than Riot that's fucking classic. If we listened to these boards every assassin would be dog shit because the majority of the boards are bronze and take their lack of knowledge as a balance issue. Oh man this made my day, what a stupid fucking statement, lol.
: Riot, don't ever make an announcer pack like this again.
Hell I thought it was a nice change. I wouldn’t pay for it, but I still use it.
: The Reforging of Mordekaiser
Do you write up a rework every time you draw Morde?
: im not climbing cause i always get this one shitty teammates... i know im not supposed to name and shame but his name is Gear Jammer... my gosh he always ruins my games.
TKM Axe (EUW)
: becuse high elo players usally win in early/mid game. they usally try to end it around 15-25 minutes. while low elo players try to end around 35-60 minutes. low elo players: try to wait and finish on late game. high elo: try to finish in early/mid. and nasus is a truck in late and a cute homeless dog in early. same with those champs: {{champion:157}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:67}}
Except Nasus isn't a late game carry.... And neither is Rengar
: Silver is so stressful.
I see these types of posts all the time and can't for the life of me figure out why you guys don't just play a pub stomper. Like pick up someone who can hard carry, get the fuck out of silver, then go back to playing what you want. Everyone hates silver league so much, but none of them will just pub stomp their way to gold real quick from the jungle. If you really want to pub stomp from support. Go pick up brand or zyra. Gg, getting to gold is easy. For all the bitching and moaning, I just can't fathom why none of you will just play a carry and carry the game.
Rexxiee (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Son Foku,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H87jgE80,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-05-11T19:10:10.675+0000) > > Lol. I mean if it was a normal the game was won anyways so who cares? I mean you know you won it, and so does the other team. Unless that blip in your match history bothers you, it's still a win for a norm. > > Just curious, were you flaming in any way? We had a guy on a norm flame all game one time then at the very end he started apologizing and saying 'thanks for carry' etc, so we ff'ed. So the guy apologized AND you guys decided to troll him anyway? Thats toxic as hell, you guys deserve a 14 day ban for that.
No, he shouldn't have been flaming in the first place. He talked shit all game, got carried by the people he shit talked, then was magically apologetic at the end? Lol fuck off, he clearly cared about winning that game and got what he deserved. If anything we should've reported him after we surrendered the game just to double down on what being a douche brings about. Sorry but in life you can't go do whatever the fuck you want then just apologize and it's all hunky dory.
Rioter Comments
: It's Akali's Birthday Today
I like how you slid the lolikali pic in there
: > [{quoted}](name=TheCodeisCupCake,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=APEHEX1M,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-11T18:27:22.703+0000) > > What is the jg change? The exp decrease from camps and buffs, that mean twitch won't get lvl 2 after his red or blue plus the nerf to his base armor and hp early in game because adc change, mean more hard time and he willl need to fight over crabs which mean more fight against his enemy jg which is mostly meta jg champion.
I'm pretty sure you'll still get 2 off the initial camp. Its level 3 they're nerfing.
: Diehard Shaco players enjoy him for his mind-games, not his 1-shot potential. Players who purely get off on 1-shots and snowballing would main {{champion:107}} or {{champion:121}} instead. Shaco players do often enjoy being annoying/frustrating to deal with though. Shaco players don't just want to win, they want you to pull your hair out in confusion at their mind-games.
This is why I play {{champion:62}} . I get my rocks off on appearing out of nowhere to 1 shot the ADC in .6 seconds.
GodCarry (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Son Foku,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wauyY0e2,comment-id=004e,timestamp=2018-05-11T18:55:49.610+0000) > > I always find it odd how posts like these pop up for permanent bans. You would think there would have to have been some serious behavioral issues in the past to warrant a punishment here. Like your account was just teetering on the edge. > > I usually reference my own games and chats in comparison to these and I know I've said much worse. People have flamed me and I just told them to fuck off or to eat a bag of dicks. I've argued before, talked some shit, defended myself, etc. Not once though have I been chat banned or banned in any capacity. This makes me wonder how much shit you really have to talk, or how much passive aggression it really takes to get a ban. If you do things to get noticed, you'll get more reports. I tend to carry mid-late game, shotcall, taunt the enemy, counter jungle, and in the past I've surrendered too much. All of these things put a target on your back. That player I camped early game, they reported me out of spite. That teammate death I pinged mia on once, they reported me. That /ff I typed after a lost fight on baron, that earned me a couple of reports. The shotcalling I did that led my team to victory, that earned me a report from my egotistical, feeding laner. Now with all of those reports stacked up one slip of the tongue or even a non-toxic trigger word and I'm punished. It doesn't take a lot to get a punishment, and I will always accept them if I truly earned them.
Literally the only annoying thing you listed was pinging MIA. I really don't think you're getting a target on your back by carrying a game.
: what support is the most anoying you?
Where the hell is {{champion:117}} ?
Mannny (NA)
: So I went 31/6 and at the very last second when we're killing the nexus, my team forfeits
Lol. I mean if it was a normal the game was won anyways so who cares? I mean you know you won it, and so does the other team. Unless that blip in your match history bothers you, it's still a win for a norm. Just curious, were you flaming in any way? We had a guy on a norm flame all game one time then at the very end he started apologizing and saying 'thanks for carry' etc, so we ff'ed.
giantZorg (EUW)
: The game seems to be fine again: Introducing the Yasuometer
GodCarry (NA)
: I truly believe I was wrongfully banned. Please tell me what you think.
I always find it odd how posts like these pop up for permanent bans. You would think there would have to have been some serious behavioral issues in the past to warrant a punishment here. Like your account was just teetering on the edge. I usually reference my own games and chats in comparison to these and I know I've said much worse. People have flamed me and I just told them to fuck off or to eat a bag of dicks. I've argued before, talked some shit, defended myself, etc. Not once though have I been chat banned or banned in any capacity. This makes me wonder how much shit you really have to talk, or how much passive aggression it really takes to get a ban.
: well you are right about {{champion:80}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:92}} and {{champion:90}}, all the others are wrong but quinn does also beat yasuo in lane.
Lol you've gotta be trolling. {{champion:62}} can even beat Yas in lane and Wu blows against almost everybody.
Aamano (NA)
: Friendly reminder that this is the greatest thing i have ever seen
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/3/3b/Atma%27s_Impaler_item.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/32?cb=20171222195203 {{item:3083}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3083}}
DW Diana (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Son Foku,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nEbzELmq,comment-id=000200010002,timestamp=2018-05-10T15:21:57.612+0000) > > He picked plat plus because bronze/Silver/Gold is irrelevant. Everyone there is too bad to judge anything off of. > > This entire thread is a prime example Awesome, then everyone can consider 90% of the playerbase (Yaśuo Main and myself) irrelevant! Of course so are you, which makes this comment irrelevant which puts us at a bit of an impasse so I'll just stick with everyone's opinion is relevant, and they are entitled to it even if it is not the same as my own.
An opinion is fine, making a change based on someones idea of balance in low elo isn't. They don't balance around my league, or anyone around me because we aren't good enough. The term get good really applies here.
sad þoy (NA)
: Forecast Janna's face in-game
You know a thread like this popped up fairly recently, and I’ve gotta wonder why? Why do you care? You don’t look at her face in game, it could be Urgots face plastered on there and unless you went looking for it you’d never know.
DW Diana (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nEbzELmq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-10T10:56:45.053+0000) > > well > > 1. i dont understand this at all considering yasuo's early game is purposefully garbage > He's got the stronger level 1 and 2 then anyone short of maybe talon > 2. you need to state why he is too strong so maybe this makes sense > Overtuned > 3. even then it still doesn't make sense > > He isn't overloaded, Lee Sin is overloaded. Lee Sin and Camille have built in true damage, healing, hard CC (lee sin has a root before his actual kick on R as well) and a double dash, while Lee still has spellvamp and an execute. > > Yasuo has double crit, situational hypermobility, AOE damage and projectile negation. > Passive shield, not really situation hypermobility as he requires an evemy target which is basically any lane, most of the time, and if theres a champion then yey, immune to turret damage when ulting, the longest range ult for a melee in the game, one of the only hypercarries in the game with hard cc... > Now you'll notice he does not have a shitload of stuff that negates his weaknesses like Lee or Camille. > He's a melee, but can catch up to anyone, he has hard CC unlike most melee hypercarries which is up a lot of the time, gets to do double damage on his abilities by building 2 items, a windwall that can block almost everything (yes braum can move with his, but his doesn't block additional effects such as diana Q, lee sin q etc and also braum is slowed when doing this, yasou just runs riot as normal. > well now i know you have no place in talking about yasuo if you think he already didn't hit 100% crit 2 items > Yes he did. But think about how insane that is on a melee hypercarry, hypermobile, hard cc, passive shielded champion. > conquerer and new IE do less damage together and its not 40% true damage either, AND IE no longer makes crits do 250% its gonna stay 200% damage now. > Hmmm 50% for 40% true damage. Lets face if as base armour gives 30% mitigation for most champions 40% true damage is more (though personally I doubt they will stack so it would actually be 36%) > He is legit going to get gutted next patch wtf are you talking about, especially if he needs damage on his crits to function > again 250% - 30% mitigation is less than 200% with 36% as true damage. The maths is pretty easy if you think about it. > 1. Tornadoes dont recharge by themselves you have to stack them and for that you need an enemy near you 24/7 > Or a minion, which again is every lane most of the time. > 2. CC (tornado) is not a god damn safety net > Nope, its a long range hard cc thats on a low cd and allows you to ult to wherever it hits someone. > 3. Wind wall is not a safety net its a better Braum wall except the fact that its stationary > Yas can still move and blocks effects as stated before > could continue more but that's mostly what i wanted to say > > note: even yasuo haters say he is balanced right now, 48% winrate with a 10% playrate is perfect. stop trying to fix what isn't broken. Please go on. He has a pick rate of 10%, and a ban rate of 58% (pretty much the same every elo) and a winrate of 49% in plat plus. Lolalytics describes him as follows: **Yasuo has a win rate 49.53% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Yasuo's are earning a win rate of 55.90% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond II. ** **LoLalytics ranks Yasuo at 4 amongst all champions earning a tier grade of Chellenger. ** Just because he can't always win doesn't mean he isn't overtuned. Also I noted you picked the plat plus rather than the other ranks. Not sure why... (Bronze 52% winrate, Silver 51.57% winrate, gold 50.57% winrate).
He picked plat plus because bronze/Silver/Gold is irrelevant. Everyone there is too bad to judge anything off of. This entire thread is a prime example
: This is understandable, but the issue here is that there is no way for us players to see which posts Riot does and does not read, let alone act on. You could all very well be reading literally every thread on Gameplay, and we'd still have no way of knowing, because there is strictly no indication out there when you do so, whether it be on the Boards, in the Dev Corner, or in the patch notes. Whenever a Rioter says that the devs do read the Boards, we can only take them on their word and whichever red post they left on a particular thread, and that's just not good enough. This isn't to say that you don't read the threads or comments in this thread, but if nothing else, it would help to work towards a way of keeping us in the loop when you do read through a thread, even if you do engage. With just the tech at hand, a simple comment like "hey, I've read this thread" could already go a long way. With just a bit more short-term work, some sort of other icon that automatically shows up next to threads visited by a Rioter, with perhaps Rioter name and timestamp, could also help tremendously. If implemented that way, you would not even have to do any extra work to signify to us players that Riot does in fact go through the threads we write, as we'd have more than just assurances with little further acknowledgment anywhere else. On the subject of engagement, though, while it's understandable that the devs may not want to directly interact with an environment that's often quite hostile to them, that still doesn't justify not engaging with players at all. At the end of the day, Riot is a company, and interacting with players is a job that someone has to do in order to maintain positive relations. The lack of engagement has made itself felt, and damaged the way players regard Riot on the Boards, and across the internet in general. Riot engaging with players is a necessity, not a luxury, and if it is being treated as the latter, then nobody has any business praising the game on its communications, even if they were great five years ago. However, because interacting with players on spaces like these is a difficult and time-consuming job, it's also not really fair to put that responsibility on you specifically, or other devs, because you already have a job that takes up a huge amount of time and energy. It might therefore be better to have dedicated Rioters act as direct relays between players and the rest of the company, using their own knowledge of the game and Riot to speak as experts and bring devs in on particularly relevant topics. I know that Riot has stayed away from this due to not wanting to create distance between devs and players, but right now the net result is very much the same, in that devs simply don't have the time to deal adequately with all of the players League has amassed over time. I suggested this to a Rioter in the past (I think it may have been Riot Sparkle), and got a positive response; has there been any internal work on this in the meantime already?
I like the "stamped" idea. As in, "we've read it". In regards to communication, I feel the weekly posts from Meddler/Rep are pretty good as well. I also see them comment here and there, and I don't really feel they should have people full time engaging the player base in forums. I mean a lot of time there is nothing to say. Goes back to the stamped idea though, it would be nice to know they've read it and they're listening. But then again, at the end of the day you'll just have everyone on the boards saying they're hitting 'select all' and stamping them.
: tricks you can do with a champ that you might not know about
I've got a couple for {{champion:62}} You can actually move his clone if you're fast enough, faking out all but the most attentive of players. You can block skill shot ults as well with his W (Cait, Jinx, Ashe). Although, this one if prob well known to everyone. Less frequently used, you can also block turret shots with his clone. On that same note, you can tell when Wukong has used W. It's different than him just stopping. This one applies to more than just Wukong, but if you have a {{item:3077}} and you're trying to get away: Run close to the wall of a ranged jungle camp and activate it. The ranged camp will attack you and reveal themselves, allowing you to dash over the wall and make a clean get away. Unless of course the camp murders you instead. If you try to combo too fast with a W out, the Q will actually land after you clone and break stealth. Leaving you 100% fucked in many scenarios. I don't know if this still works, but it used to: If you decoy at low health and {{champion:82}} ults it then kills it, he'll get your clone as his slave. I don't really see Morde much anymore, so it may not still be a thing. {{champion:62}} trained under {{champion:11}}. If a Master Yi gives you the /taunt in game, he will say 1 of 2 things. "Quit monkeying around!" or "Pupil, show me what you have learned." If he says the latter, and you're within 1 level of Yi with a Duskblade equipped- You can press W to activate Duskblade and E-AA-Q-R. He'll die every time. Kid you not, go try it.
Terozu (NA)
: Welp I just got the last laugh on my teacher.
Grats, you placed Silver 2 in life. Hope you find a good duo for the rest of it, because life is full of shit teams and flamers.
Eedat (NA)
: Why are people getting upset over Domination being made more accessable to Mages?
Ultimate hat isn't even that amazing. What shocks me is how do many people are complaining that sorcery has nothing else. Like what? Celerity, Absolute Focus, Transcendance, Gathering Storm, Null Shield, Manaflow... the whole tree is really fucking good.
: Can Graves really jungle that fast? That would explain why he always pops up at my blue buff to try and counter jungle with full HP...
Well that's an exaggeration, but he clears super fast. Compared to Wukong anyways, and he does it full health. It's like an endless battle for Raptors with that guy at the very least.
koshkyra (NA)
: Stop using "you can ban them" as an excuse for a champion being blatanly overpowered.
I don't have a huge list of champs I want banned but its definitely more than one. {{champion:19}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:117}} Honestly if Graves couldn't farm half my jungle in 5 seconds I wouldn't bother banning him, and I often roll the dice leaving WW open in favor of a Janna/Lulu ban. A lot of times people take him having never played him just because he's strong, those 2 supports though you can first time and do well.
: Let them flame. More ammo for reports.
ThePikol (EUNE)
: I don't think Nimbus will be usefull on Ahri. She doesn't need more move speed after casting R because she usually get some from her passive either way. Besides Nimbus will proc probably only once not 3 times (every R cast). I don't know how it will interact with Fiddle as he has to channel his R for 1.5s and Nimbus lasts for 2s after casting ult. Does it mean he will only get 0.5s of movement speed? While I agree some other champs may use it and benefit from this I'm very worried about mages. What should they take in runes now? Domination primary? There aren't a lot of runes they can use as they mostly deal AoE dmg so healing is useless, they don't roam so movement speed is bad. Sudden impact is bad as they are ususally immoblie.
You can still go Comet/Aery Manaflowband/Null if needed Absolute Focus/Transcendance Gathering Storm IDK why so many mages think there is nothing else good in the sorcery tree. Games often go over 30 min in low elo which is where most people complaining reside. Absolute Focus+Gathering Storm offers a good amount of AP at 20 min, and basically a 7th item at 30.
DeusVult (NA)
: Rengar wont build that build ever It will be {{item:1412}} {{item:3673}} {{item:3074}} {{item:3147}} Stormrazor {{item:3071}} Maybe even take out Stormrazor for new {{item:3036}} if he reaches full build
This item does look good but I don't know that it will become a standard item on all assassins. Wukong for example, I'm thinking he will just go DB-GB-LDR-ER-Hydra/GA/dependent-Boots. It might fall in that dependent slot if you're really ahead, but I think there are better choices. With that changes to LW it doesn't seem necessary or as efficient as other choices. At full build with total armor pen on top of lethality, I just can't justify buying this. Its overkill and gives AS which is useless- Everyone here seems worried about it, but if you really want to worry about the assassins go look at the LDR and GA changes. That's what's going to delete you quicker and more consistently.
: I think it would be more fun on wukong, Q with the yo dawg damage build (duskblade+TF+stormrazor+Dharvest) then use the new ult movespeed rune to spin away for style points.
Except Dark Harvest is sub optimal at best on Wu.
: Your current summoner level is now your new main
: I feel like moving Ultimate Hat to Domination will make Sorcery Tree obsolete.
Really? Absolute Focus, Transcendance, Gathering Storm, Celerity, Nullifying Orb.... Sorcery has some of the best runes in the game, wtf
koshkyra (NA)
: The runes in sorcery are more powerful than the keystones are
Ye, but the keystones aren't terrible. Just the other runes in sorcery are really fucking good.
Merlinez (NA)
: Can we like stop indirectly buffing Zed?
Y'all act like you can't punish the shit out of him pre-6. Like, his wave clear isn't THAT good. His Pre-6 is bad, you can poke the ever living fuck out of him. This whole Zed train is so fucking exaggerated its ridiculous. People saying he has almost no counter play? Like wtf? His W goes on CD and you just sit there and put it in his butt for like 20 seconds. The fuck you mean no counter play? Playing a mage with some kind of CC? Did he ult you? Throw that shit behind you, learn to time it. No counter play... get off the gas, lol.
: C9 Sneaky is at it again || SG Soraka
Cultural Appropriation. They shut down a taco stand over it, next they'll get Sneaky.
: What will actually get someone banned in Gold and lower elo?
1 report is the same as 9. Just report and move on, calling out for everyone to report him doesn't do anything extra, you're wasting your breath.
: These marksmen 'nerfs' are a joke and the balance team should legitimately feel ashamed
I’m fine with these changes if supports see some work. If I don’t have to rip through 800HP worth of shields and healing to take the ADC down, their damage being slightly less works for me. Maybe if they made a mini shield debuff or something, iE targets shielded within the last 3 seconds will have their effectiveness reduced by 50% or something.
: > [{quoted}](name=Son Foku,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gkdGRKZs,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-05-04T16:05:32.435+0000) > > You die a lot Because I still try to save my teammates. I recognize my position. Support is the least impactful so I am completely okay with sacrificing myself if it gets someone out. It's the same as my misguided belief that somehow the next team people will all know their role. Instead top won't tp, mid won't roam, jungle won't gank and bot is at least a 3 v 2.
> [{quoted}](name=DotEleven,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gkdGRKZs,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2018-05-04T16:11:17.417+0000) > > Because I still try to save my teammates. I recognize my position. Support is the least impactful so I am completely okay with sacrificing myself if it gets someone out. It's the same as my misguided belief that somehow the next team people will all know their role. Instead top won't tp, mid won't roam, jungle won't gank and bot is at least a 3 v 2. Have you considered becoming a meta slave?
: > [{quoted}](name=Ella Cinderella,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gkdGRKZs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-04T04:24:11.731+0000) > > ^ consistent play and being a higher influence than the average support/etc in your rank will show over time. Except I can't because 90% of the time my adc is a useless piece of trash who's either too scared to do anything or completely suicidal and all roaming does is get me reported. Like, let's put it this way, I consistently get adcs so bad that I was able to have a better winning lane phase while at 400 ping last game than the average of the last like 20 before that.
> [{quoted}](name=DotEleven,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gkdGRKZs,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-05-04T04:25:29.844+0000) > > Except I can't because 90% of the time my adc is a useless piece of trash who's either too scared to do anything or completely suicidal and all roaming does is get me reported. > > Like, let's put it this way, I consistently get adcs so bad that I was able to have a better winning lane phase while at 400 ping last game than the average of the last like 20 before that. You die a lot
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 4
Hi Meddler, What are your thoughts on striking balance between lower and higher elo? For instance, the AD item changes could prove to be disastrous for low elo where champs like Wukong/Zed can run rampant. However, higher elo players can negate their presence fairly consistently. On that same note, Blitzcrank has been a prime example of this for quite some time as well. Is there a way to find balance in numbers, or do y’all have to go back to looking at their base kit when these issues arise? Are there other factors involved? Just curious, thanks!
: > [{quoted}](name=Son Foku,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qrE3N2ti,comment-id=001a0000,timestamp=2018-05-04T01:37:01.703+0000) > > i belung in cahllenjer but mah TEAM!!!!!! lol.. i am under no delusion of where i belong... i may have the _game knowledge_ of a diamond or even master sure.. after over 5 years of player i should, but knowing _what_ to do is a far cry from being able to actually DO it. I've played for 5 years.. my mechanical skills arn't getting any better, infact.. they are getting worse because i an now nearly in my thirties. if i was elevated to plat.. i could pretty easily hold that rank, but with the champs i play.. climbing there is out of the question unless i quit my job. like i said.. it done'st matter if i am 20 kills up as a {{champion:76}} .. if they group as 5... i cant stop them alone... not unless they all have 10-20% hp... i have gone on a 16 game win streak to climb out of bronze last season, thats easy enough. but even last game, i had to support a {{champion:67}} who i don't think has ever played the champ before.. the game before that? i had a vayne who COULD play want to see the difference? https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2776112923/207008136?tab=overview this game my adc can play and i can easily get her fed... and she got about 95% of the kills i set up for her https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2776146695/207008136?tab=overview this game... my adc has major mental issues not only died a bunch... LITERALLY flashes into {{champion:15}} q to die to give her enough hp heal from fleet footwork to save her from my QW and then she kills me too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrouZHBWQ4M&feature=youtu.be yes my q was on cooldown so i couldn't snare her under tower...
> [{quoted}](name=SwiftKitten88,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qrE3N2ti,comment-id=001a00000000,timestamp=2018-05-04T03:41:20.193+0000) > > lol.. i am under no delusion of where i belong... i may have the _game knowledge_ of a diamond or even master sure.. after over 5 years of player i should, but knowing _what_ to do is a far cry from being able to actually DO it. No you don’t. You just don’t, game knowledge includes everything from knowing when to actually gank/farm, when to take objectives, how to play the macro game overall, every champion matchup and how everything interacts together. You have the game knowledge of a silver. Because you are silver. Game knowledge alone can take you very far. > I've played for 5 years.. my mechanical skills arn't getting any better, infact.. they are getting worse because i an now nearly in my thirties. I’m 31 and can react just as fast as an 18 year old. If you’re brain isn’t functioning as well it’s because you aren’t healthy. When you’re 18 you have that great reaction time because you’re still growing (I mean I’ve fallen down stairs and got up and walked off at 18, couldn’t do that now). When you’re 30 you can have the same mental health but you need to actively work for it by leading a healthy lifestyle. > if i was elevated to plat.. i could pretty easily hold that rank, but with the champs i play.. climbing there is out of the question unless i quit my job. like i said.. it done'st matter if i am 20 kills up as a {{champion:76}} .. if they group as 5... i cant stop them alone... not unless they all have 10-20% hp... No you couldn’t, your match history shows you can barely hold your own where you’re at. And bad news, plat players still do tons of dumb shit. We all do. > i have gone on a 16 game win streak to climb out of bronze last season, thats easy enough. > > but even last game, i had to support a {{champion:67}} who i don't think has ever played the champ before.. > > the game before that? i had a vayne who COULD play > > > want to see the difference? > https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2776112923/207008136?tab=overview > > this game my adc can play and i can easily get her fed... and she got about 95% of the kills i set up for her > > https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2776146695/207008136?tab=overview > this game... > my adc has major mental issues > > not only died a bunch... LITERALLY flashes into {{champion:15}} q to die to give her enough hp heal from fleet footwork to save her from my QW and then she kills me too > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrouZHBWQ4M&feature=youtu.be > > yes my q was on cooldown so i couldn't snare her under tower... If you climbed out of bronze on a 16 game win streak that means your hands down better than that league. You have better mechanics and game knowledge. If you’re stuck in Silver, it’s because you are at a silver level of mechanics and game knowledge. I know it sucks to come to the realization tha after 5 years, you’re still not good enough to hit Gold league or anything above it, but the sooner you realize it’s your fault, the sooner you’ll climb. You’ll never learn anything if you keep thinking you’re better than everyone else.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ahri Lover Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qrE3N2ti,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-05-03T17:01:34.829+0000) > >Oh, and don't forget the people on Boards who post, "screw high elo. 90% of the playerbase is below plat. Balance around us." I played hard to get here and I put in a lot more effort than most people. It's not fair to guys like me, scarra, qtpie, etc. who put in more effort to learning the game if you completely ignore how far we've come. Ya know? when people say "stop balancing around diamond + they are talking about riot blatantly ignoring the lower elos like flat out deleting trackers knife, which is an absolute MUST in lower elo because you CANNOT rely on your team to ward. i played one game on pbe earlier today.. it got cut short becuase pbe was taken down.. but i cant not remember that last time i had that much fun.. because for the first time i had a team they knew how to play. i am tried of people saying "your silver your a noob" i have been playing for 5 years, i know more about this game than i would wager most plats. but its too damn stressful to try to climb, becuase no matter how mnay fucking time i ping something. i get fresh lvl thirties or complete idoits on my team who dont know how to play. i CANNOT remeber the last time i had a team that did not have at last TWO mindlessly feeding players.. sure the other team has them as well. high elo and lower elo are a completly different playstype becuase THESE PEOPLE CANT PLAY. and riot cant just flat out REMOVE things that us lower players NEED in order to try to mitigate the absolute madness down here. its quite often painful to watch what goes on down in my elo.. but the fact is.. i i dont PLAY champs that can carry lower elo. and and am NEVER going to. so i will ALWAYS be stuck with these morons. it donest matter if i have 15 kills. i can pounce into 1v5, i can't solo defend a turrent the champs i play NEED a team... there IS no such thing as "teamwork" down here. i can only recall losing to a better opponent ONCE in the past 3 years.. once that actually outplayed me. its always. oh great... im nidalee with 7 kills but thier{{champion:77}} has 6 kills.. and there isn't jack shit i can do to stop him... because he freaking hardcounters me. i swear i seroiuly wish i could play on higher elo so i can have an actaul CHALLENGE from the opposing PLAYER. and not just loseing becuase my teammates mindlessly feed. and whats worse is i am FORCED to make STUPID plays i dont want to do becuase they are our last chance of salvaging there game. i mean.. if its a 20% chance to win the teamfight but if i dont take it we lose the nexus... i have to take it... there is no "trying to preserve kda" you go and and hope for the best. when my team dives in 4v5 i HAVE to fucking follow them.. even if its a horrible idea... becuase if we lose the fight... i CAN'T stop them from ending the game.. idk im annoyed with riot right now.... bloody fucking ADC changes are supposed to be NERFS and they not only break assasins but are going to break every other damn thing as well hail of blades... new IE, Stormchaser. support lvl exp for junglers i mean sure i got the amazing new {{item:1039}} i wanted... but fuck i wont even be able to play with it if they release that other shit...
: @Riot Sotere I've been a Jungle main 8 years, your changes are the worst idea I have ever seen.
I really can’t imagine this will go through in its current form. Riot would literally be forcing so many junglers out of the game, it’s blatantly obvious. You thought the game was over at 15? No, now it’s over at scuttle.
: But muh Scuttle XP
There’s gonna be a lot of salt when we win a fight bot lane and My ADC is doing his best to take scuttle from me.
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