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: Everybody should get the same amount of items.
I just commented something about this, if you kill the camp you should get the same amount of items as everyone else who does. The RNG for items should be what items you get, not how many for doing the same thing as someone else and get 0 while they get 4 on the first wave.
Jaxi (NA)
: TFT Item Drop Suggestion
I was going to make a post for this, but my idea is that you still have to kill the monster to get items, but everyone gets the same number of items per camp. I'm fine with the RNG of what items I get, just kinda shitty when someone gets 4 items of the first wave, and 3 others get no items at all. Also, I wish we could combine items before you put them on your champ, and switch items around from champs without selling the champ.
Rylalei (EUNE)
: That's a difference tho, if you look at champs that aren't flashy not over busted with numbers, you'll see low play rates. I took for Diamond according to U.GG: A-Sol: 55% win rate, 1% pick rate. Taliyah mid: 52.31% win rate, 1.3% pick rate Donger: 54.77% win rate, 0.7% pick rate According to your "nobody plays him thus he needs a rework", Donger would need a rework before A-Sol. Stop thinking that everything needs to be flashy and played by everyone. Most people just fun him boring, but he's not bad, his win rate is quite absurd.
All 3 of those champs do need a rework, they are shovelware champs. If nobody plays them, there's a reason....
: > [{quoted}](name=Sona Cant Mid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0sQywX1a,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-06-18T19:50:11.335+0000) > > My problem with everyone who said "there's tons of champs, if you don't like him then don't play him" is, A. That's a waste of money and resources as I said before, and B. Why have so many champs if 1/4th of them are like Soll? He's shovelware of a champ, another tally to increase their library of overall champs. Your problem is that if you don't like the champion that is more than enough of a reason to want him changed. You don't like him? Then don't play him. Other people like him. What you think is irrelevant. You don't get to decide what is "fun" or what a respectable pickrate is. There will always be a champion that is insanely popular and those who aren't. You can rework him, just means that someone is going to take his place and is assuming that a rework would even get people to play him.
I don't have to decide what is "fun" or "an acceptable pick rate" because he has been unanimously decided not fun by 99 percent of the playerbase, and if you don't think less than 1 percent pick rate is an unacceptable champ, then I don't really have any reason to discuss anything with you because you're either being contentious to prove your "point", or you're really dumb.
: EDIT: I misread, so this is a Kat complaint thread. I thought it was about Poppy. Kat can be easily countered by simply using a hard CC at her when she ults, which basically just destroys her. This includes, but not limited to, using Poppy's E OR R on her when she channels ulti. So you wouldn't have to worry about Kat's dash, since she wouldn't be doing anything if you're Poppy anyway. Not to mention given that Kat has a pretty rocky early to mid game due to her high set up time (that is also telegraphed) and the fact she is basically a non-champion before getting her Hextech Gunblade, as long as you keep her in check she becomes instantly irrelevant for the game.
A good Katarina dissent let herself get CCd because she has a blink on 0 CD though. Lots of hypercarry champs are destroyed by hard CC (Jax,Yi, Annie, ect), but don't have a no CD blink, resets, and no Mana. Old Kat could use that blink bc she had little outplay potential, now she has ALL the outplay potential, so that blink being a blink seems like overkill
: > [{quoted}](name=WarmSpaceRide,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0sQywX1a,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T09:49:28.846+0000) > > I don't think there's anything wrong with his kit, he's just very seldomly played because he's a very niche pick. His play style is incredibly awkward for most beginners but he is perfectly capable of climbing the ranks for those who master him. OP also conveniently left out how ASol has the highest WR in the game according to OP.GG. He's a niche champ with dedicated mains because he is niche and also hard to play. His kit can function though if you're good which is proven by the fact that he has almost a 56% WR.
Highest win rate with .58 percent pick, that means the numbers are skewered compared to other champs, and of course he wins when half of a percent of people pick him, nobody knows how to play against him because he's not a champ.
: Instead of Ryze's 6th rework, can we get a rework for Aurelion????
My problem with everyone who said "there's tons of champs, if you don't like him then don't play him" is, A. That's a waste of money and resources as I said before, and B. Why have so many champs if 1/4th of them are like Soll? He's shovelware of a champ, another tally to increase their library of overall champs.
Flaithet (NA)
: Riot, you're a child
I CANNOT possibly {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} imagine why you were punished....
: Any Good reason why Poppy's w stops everything except Katarinas dash???????
I understand everyone's comments, as to why she doesnt get cc'd by these things, but my real question is why is this a good, healthy, idea with her resets and lack of using mana. Shouldnt that be enough? Couldnt it be a dash instead of a blink and still be a good champ thats not so god damn annoying to play against?
deathgod5 (EUW)
: Because Ryze was problematic and aurelion really isn't. The Ryze rework that was currently changed had the problem that it was really op in pro play and underpowered in normal play and if played optimally, also terrible to play against. Aurelion is fine according to the players that play him and not problematic overall. They even explained why ryze was reworked in set patch notes:
The problem is that Riot spend presumably thousands of dollars and waited YEARS to make this champ, and then less than 1 percent of people play him. Thats a terrible waste of resources and money, and indicitave of poorly designed champ, even if his kit technically "works".
: I don't think there's anything wrong with his kit, he's just very seldomly played because he's a very niche pick. His play style is incredibly awkward for most beginners but he is perfectly capable of climbing the ranks for those who master him.
There's clearly something very wrong with him if his pick rate across all elo's is .58 percent. His kit might "work", but that doesnt make it a fun or engaging kit.
: Hey, how about fuck off, if you don't play that champ. As player of 1% pickrate champ, the last thing I want is Riot touching my champ. Ryze was/is broken, that's reason to rework, Asol is hard, that's not.
Hey, how about you learn that Riot doesnt make champs for people to play him less than 1 percent of the time, thats a terrible waste of resources and money; and watch who you're talking to son. The only reason im not your father is because your raggedy mom couldnt break a $20, so show me some respect.
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: Can mmr from summoners rift PLEASE translate in twisted treeline.
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rujitra (NA)
: So... here's the legality of it. Keep in mind IANAL (I am not a lawyer, not "i anal"). You own, well, **you**. And Riot, being the creator of League and the owner of multiple computer servers, has said that **you** have the *credentials* to access the "Sona Cant Mid" section of their servers (be this a game in progress, account history, access to skins, etc). Thus, *you*, the person, have been *credentialed* to access such part of the server. Riot is the one that determines who is credentialed or not. Riot has said that instead of having to utilize some long, convoluted method to prove your identity anytime you wish to access the parts of the server you are credentialed to access, you can just utilize a username and password. As part of your agreement that permits you to use a username and password in lieu of proving you have been credentialed, you agree that you will not let anyone else utilize your "credentials" (i.e. the username and password). You signed a legally binding contract, in which you said you would not knowingly let anyone other than you (the credentialed human being) utilize the credentials that Riot has permitted you to use. Now, this is all based on a **contract** that you willingly signed. Contracts are not laws - however, when you sign a contract, it generally becomes binding in a civil sense. As such, it is not "illegal" to sell or give away your credentials, but you are in breach of a contract which you signed. The outcomes of this could be very similar to an illegal act - you could be taken to court (or arbitration) by Riot for both damages and punitive awards, other companies may find out and be leery to "credential" you in the future (i.e. give you privileged access), and you may be subject to a court order prohibiting you from accessing Riot services in the future. TLDR: No, it's not illegal. Yes, it's still against the contract you signed, and as such you can be held accountable with various damages and punitive awards. **** To address your other point, you aren't licensing a copy of the game so to speak. Online games are different than, say, the PC games of the 2000s. The PC games of the 2000s, while they still generally came on CDs, also came with a "license". This is what permitted you to install it on multiple computers (usually), but limited the number of computers and number of people who could share the software. So, you ended up buying a license that just so happened to come with a physical copy of the software. In today's day and age, you generally aren't buying a license to software. Software downloads are cheap - and in fact you can download the software (the installer package) without ever signing a contract with Riot Games. However, the software does not do you any good - just as the Runescape Launcher doesn't do jack shit for you without an account. When you create an account on a game nowadays, that is when you are getting the "license" - but it's not a license because it doesn't entitle you to any further software - it entitles you to access certain parts of the Riot Games servers (namely those associated with your personal account). As such, it's not a "license" that you're getting but a set of "credentials" that you can use - and Riot is "credentialling" you to access the parts of the server associated with your credentials. Sorry to go into semantics, but it's a very particular topic in the legal world from the cases I've read/researched. #AGAIN: IANAL (I am not a lawyer) and this cannot be construed to be providing any sort of legal advice, nor does it establish any legal relationship. This is merely my understanding and opinions as another human being.
Thanks, informative and detailed response!
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TrulyBland (EUNE)
: Assuming you're not talking about forum bans: I never heard of anybody being punished for saying lewd things, so I doubt linking to something lewd would result in a punishment. Generally Riot doesn't seem to care too much about things that are "sexually offensive" outside of summoner names. I wouldn't bet my account on it, though. Linking to a ZT word as a means of circumventing the automated detection probably warrants punishment though, as it's still clearly against the spirit of the rules. That said, precisely because it circumvents automated detection I wouldn't exactly hold my breath, since that means it will require a manual review which are relatively rare.
thats about what i figured, someone had a macro in my lobby that link spammed me to something delightfully intellegent called "The F****ot Song", and i dodged before even getting into the game so there was no chance to report, but was curious if I did play it and report if there would be consequences.
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: {{item:3071}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3156}} {{item:3139}} {{item:3813}} And you have a support. Idk why you play the squishiest class in the game, probably over extend or aren't patient enough in fights. You need to practice the ADC role more. If an AD assassin kills you and your support does nothing because you're in an elo where that happens, then you should find a duo or play the AD assassin because you'll find more success in your elo that way
Im silver, so im guessing my positioning isnt always good. When my positioning is bad, thats when im fine with rengar 1 shotting me, because i was out of place and that was his opening. But when I'm in the back of the team where im supposed to be, or in the middle and rengar just cucks me before i can react when I'm where i should be, thats frustrating. Also, I like how you just assumed my positioning is garbage tho, and that I haven't been playing adc for 5 years and probably have hit my celling on them, must just need to practice some more.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sona Cant Mid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0sPXANpl,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-05-13T06:14:17.179+0000) > > half of the supports arent tanks tho I didn't imply that Tanks needed to be Support. Most "Tank" Supports are absolutely trash at soaking damage if they are the only front line you have. I DID say "Shield Supports". There was a time when Shield Supports were strong enough to negate a LOT of assassin damage. Now, Assassins blow you up through shields anyway. When I mentioned Tanks, I wasn't suggesting Tank Supports. I was suggesting Tanks period. Especially Top Lane Tanks. Currently, they are useless in lane and don't survive long enough outside of lane to be viable. Especially if the enemy team has a Vayne that can kill you in 6 or less auto attacks despite having a 800+ armor and 4k+ Health Malphite. ADC's don't need defensive options or you make Fighters irrelevant. In a traditional ideal scenario, the ADC's primary job is to kill the enemy tanks faster than the enemy ADC kills your tanks. Enchanter Supports do their best to keep the ADC alive, Assassins look for angles/opportunities to delete them, the Tanks will soak as much damage as possible while disengaging to try to peel for the ADC, and Control Mages will try to zone enemies way from being able to effectively deal damage. ^^^ This is more like the balance you will want. ADC > Tank Tank > Assassin Assassin > ADC If we include control mages? Control Mage in a controlled siege or anti siege.... Control Mage > ADC Control Mage > Assassin Tank > Control Mage Control Mage when not protected by turret or team..... ADC > Control Mage Assassin > Control Mage Tank > Control Mage I had to leave out Fighters for the time being because I am not feeling well and typing is difficult.
It's like i said in the OP, i dont think adc's should have a "fuck off assassin" item that just completely counters them, as their main job is to blow apart a squishy. I do think i should have more options when i hear rengar's ult than run to my turret and pray that he jumps on someone else. Its more of a problem with certain assassins than others, mostly the ones that go invis {{champion:28}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:29}} because nothing feels more frustrating than being 4 and 0 and having rengar ult and 1 shot you in the middle of your team, then roar to break the cc and run away, or kha to jump on you while completely unseen and then jump away. Its not a good feeling game. Tanks have counters too, but they have room to play against them because most counters for tanks are cc. The counter for an adc is "hey im rengar with a 40 second cd on my ult, and you're dead now". Control mages have cc to stop them even though they are squishy so theres an outplay potential. Tanks are tanks and arent countered by assassins. ADC's counterplay is "oh please flay this fuck off me thresh".
: > [{quoted}](name=Sona Cant Mid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0sPXANpl,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-05-13T04:57:35.424+0000) > > knights vow isnt an adc item tho, and you cant tell your support shit most of the time so... it would be better imo if there was an antiburst item for adc's like zhonyas or a barrier item thats not that weak ass pd shield. phantom dancer and its a team game. if ur support is ap, your top/jungler should build it for you. just ask later
right except you're Diamond 2. You are using logic for diamond games. In diamond, you might as well be playing Overwatch its such a different game from silver. Im level 7 on mf, but as soon as the {{champion:131}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:120}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:238}} locks i have to go grab the lube because i have no options for them when playing MF, Jhin, or Xayah, which are my main adcs. You even quoted me saying "weak ass pd shield", then say pd. ITS GARBAGE AND DOESNT STOP SHIT.
: Have you tried Bloodthirster, Death's Dance, Tabi/Merc's, or Mercurial Scimitar?
these things are all sustain items that people are pointing out, bloodthirster helps late game, but the lifesteal doesnt stop kha, rengar, zed, ect from just jumping on you and blowing you apart before you can even fire a single shot.
: They literally made p.d a defensive item. Tabis, Mercs are both defensive boots that adcs DO take. Adcs have plenty of defense options while also having a support. This post is an uneducated mess
pd shield is garbage, and tabis really stop a rengar from one shotting you while invis now hmm? i must've missed that ninja tabi buff where it makes assassins irrelevant. Ninja tabi makes it so rengar has to two shot you instead of one shot, oh no such a shutdown.
: Adcs dont need defensive items. They need reliable shield supports or tanks to soak and peel for them. Adc's are overturned when they can thrive without these things.
half of the supports arent tanks tho
iiGazeii (NA)
: Wasn't that the whole point of the {{item:3046}} rework?
yeah but assassins like rengar, zed, kha, ect just blow right through that
: {{item:3155}}
that item is weak af, throws off your build path on most adc's, and does nothing for AD champs.
: knights Vow, tabis
knights vow isnt an adc item tho, and you cant tell your support shit most of the time so... it would be better imo if there was an antiburst item for adc's like zhonyas or a barrier item thats not that weak ass pd shield.
Manxxom (NA)
: The only thing that is survivability about xayah is being able to live a couple seconds longer thanks to her ultimate... Then she dies
i second that, you dont really use your ult to survive you use it for an outplay. If they walk out of your ult before you land (which even silver people do) then you're boned.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: That's what supports are for. if the adc gets oneshot by an assassin he probably failed at positioning or his support is trash. Alternatively just play one of the many bullshit ADCs with tons of self peel and survivability in their kits. {{champion:81}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:236}}
Yeah the support SHOULD peel you, but as i said low elo (gold and below) people dont peel properly. And yes i hate trist and ezreal for the fact that they have so much escape when every other adc doesnt, makes it feel pointless to play anyone else.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Sona Cant Mid,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cd5wnEx6,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-12T09:36:38.765+0000) > > No offense, but I truly don't know who you are, so no this is no reference to you, or any one person in particular. Just look at the main page though: besides the pinned ones from hearlds, every thread has a negative score and 75 percent of people who aren't specialists or Mods in some way only seem to come to Player Behavior to spew negativity, argue instead of debate, and just be generally unhelpful [removed by moderation] Please refrain from insulting others on the boards. If you have any questions about this moderation action, don't hesitate to reach out to the Boards Moderation Team via: * The [**NA Boards Discord**]( * The [**Discuss the Boards**]( sub-board
That's a joke, that's not insulting anyone that's a statement about the general state of this board and Paramount to my point. I see the mods here are more worried about sticking together than actually moderating.
rujitra (NA)
: I really do take this personally. I hope you're not referring to me. Regardless, please *please* report posts you feel are being disrespectful, unhelpful, or otherwise don't belong. If you have to, go talk to the moderators in the discord. They're very helpful and will either fix it or explain why they aren't removing it.
Hey Mr specialist, I like how the troll reported my posts and you with due diligence removed them all, but all but 2 of his inflammatory posts that I reported are still here...
: You have to ignore these people and don't feed the trolls. Anyone who brings up Hitler in any conversation that isn't historical in nature isn't worth your time. But this isn't a problem with PB, my friend, board trolls exist everywhere and they just want attention. Don't indulge them.
I agree they're everywhere, and I truly know better than to engage these people, but sometimes it's easier said than done. Bigots bother me greatly. I just feel of all the places on the boards PB is highest concentration.
Ooduwa (NA)
: ***
Insults like fascist? You are the prime example of my whole point. I'm not allocating any more energy responding to you. Everyone here can see what type of person you are I don't need to explain this to you.
RallerenP (EUW)
: I agree with you, to an extent I've visited here regularly for about 2½ years. I started out SUPER toxic, I couldn't sympathize with anyone. But now I'm actively trying my hardest to not do that anymore. I try to empathize and explain rationally how the system works. But a lot of other people seemingly don't do that. Over the years, very few regulars have stuck out to me as not being rude, and a few of them even began transitioning to being toxic. I guess the simplest explanation is that the regulars get into discussions that turn sour. When a new thread appears, they can't separate their previous heated discussions from new ones. Their default *becomes* toxic over time. On PB we've made kind of a culture. It's no longer really about helping those who come with questions, but about garnering upvotes and respect from your PB friends. The culture is ingrained deeply. I even feel some of the mods have this. They post snarky comments that are unhelpful and in some cases will turn away people from asking questions in the future.. HOWEVER, I don't think we should remove PB. I don't like how loosely moderated the forum is. I understand that they're volunteers and human, and make mistakes. But I feel like they don't even try to be examples of how a good regular should be. But this doesn't mean PB is useless. Sometimes good things come from PB. Players have interesting discussions, or someone gets a proper explanation which they're thankful for. Even through the years and the toxic times of me being here, the most memorable moments have always been when I've helped someone and they thanked me. Likewise, I really have taken note of when someone actually managed to make me see the picture through their eyes. The few good moments *heavily* outweigh the bad. Of course, that's just my opinion and all. These good moments come more often when no one is super upset, which is why I'm now no actively trying to be positive. I'm sorry if this was hard to read, I just wanted to write my thoughts. I didn't really organize them that well.
Even though I stick to my original opinion, I respect and understand yours. It's people like a certain someone here who make me think this place is just full of trolls as I see alot of it in PB
: > [{quoted}](name=Sona Cant Mid,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cd5wnEx6,comment-id=000100000001000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-12T11:39:27.799+0000) > > If you read the whole thing, With that statement your being negatif yourself{{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} > you will know that I agree people don't come here for advice, they come here to play the victim. And then people respond to their negativity with negativity. You know not everybody respond with negativity ? I mean what you are saying sounds like the only thing that people do on this is being negatif or toxic >So the point isn't "nobody listens to the advice" it's, "there's no advice to be had, just more negativity". So if people aren't here for the forum's intended purpose, and people respond with negativity to their posts, then why be here, and why have this section anymore at all. If they want to whine, take it to RANT. If they want actual constructive help, they'll seldom find it here, so open a ticket. PB is nothing but a hub for negativity. Actually when you write a ticket about things like this they send you here to discus and to help understand why you got punisht.
You can take that intro as snarky if you like, but that's not the intent. Although I'll admit it's a little irritating to repeat something repeatedly because people don't fully read something before making a statement. If you didn't have this section, Riot wouldn't refer you here. And yeah, I am saying 75 percent of people on here ARE only being negative or toxic. Kinda the whole point
Ooduwa (NA)
: ***
Hey Mr. Specialists here's EXHIBIT A {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: I reply on a lot of threads here, but one thing you seem to be missing from the other side is WHY a person like me can seem twat-y in his responses - and generally It's because a large number of threads follow this formula. OP - "I received _________ punishment and I don't deserve it." Reply - "But you were negative, argumentative, and flaming your team." OP - "But they started it." Reply - "That does't matter, it's still against the rules." OP - "So Riot is OK with this, why didn't they get punished?" Reply - "You don't always get the notification that someone has been punished." OP - "Point out in my chat where I was deserving of punishment." Reply - "Here, here, and here." OP - "That wasn't that bad, someone in that game told my mother to die." Reply - "It only matters what you said, not them." And on and on and on. We who reply get in cicrcular arguments like this constantly, and the OPs get frustrated with us, even though we don't make the rules. They want people to come here and agree with them that the punishment system is shit, and then they'll start flaming people who reply (even the people who are way nicer than me in their replies) because nobody is telling them what they WANT to hear.
Yes. That is why I've said multiple times now that this whole point of yours proves mine. OP comes on here expecting everyone to tell him his 3 page long, 3 game toxicity report isn't deserving a ban. Everyone tells him he's wrong. He gets hostile. Then they get hostile. So what was accomplished here? Nothing. More negativity has been created and nothing has been resolved, no answers are given, and neither side is getting what they want out of the situation unless you're a troll who enjoys drama. Once more, what's the actual point?
: > [{quoted}](name=Sona Cant Mid,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cd5wnEx6,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-12T10:00:32.430+0000) > > So if someone comes on here for legitimate info, advice, or rant, they will have to sift through TONS of negativity before seeing something constructive; so why bother? info ? most of them either blame sombody els or say the system is broken stupid dumb etc or that the bot doenst work well. And as for advice or info if the OP refuse to lisen to advice thats hes problem not ours if the OP dont wanna follow the advice up.
If you read the whole thing, you will know that I agree people don't come here for advice, they come here to play the victim. And then people respond to their negativity with negativity. So the point isn't "nobody listens to the advice" it's, "there's no advice to be had, just more negativity". So if people aren't here for the forum's intended purpose, and people respond with negativity to their posts, then why be here, and why have this section anymore at all. If they want to whine, take it to RANT. If they want actual constructive help, they'll seldom find it here, so open a ticket. PB is nothing but a hub for negativity.
: > ...such as down voting every single thread en mass for no discernable reasoning... Whenever I see upvotes or downvotes brought up, I can only wonder; is it supposed to be a discussion, or a game of agreement/disagreement points? Upvotes and downvotes, while they can certainly skew some people's perception, ultimately don't matter. What does matter is the content of the discussion. Besides, you say "no discernable reason", but there are a variety of reasons that someone could downvote, from expressing disagreement with the OP's sentiment, to the OP having brought up the same tired arguments as everyone else, to the downvoter believing that the OP's post was poorly-constructed or not conducive to a legitimate discussion. I'd certainly be fine with downvoting being removed in PB, but until then, people need to learn to put less stock in something so small as downvotes/upvotes. > ...being snarky and holier than thou while offering no actual information, and being generally rude. There are very few people I've seen do that, and much less amongst the regulars on PB. Regardless, refer above; if you see someone misbehaving, report them. > These are all rampant in THIS thread(sic) only. They exist all over the boards, but this is ground zero. Again, I have to call that a hyperbolic statement. I can't speak for the rest of the boards (I only really browse _Player Behavior_, _Story, Art, & Sound_, and _Discuss the Boards_), but it is severely doubtful that PB is somehow a nexus of toxicity, especially given the recent changes to rules have made things a fair bit more constructive overall. > So if someone comes on here for legitimate info, advice, or rant, they will have to sift through TONS of negativity before seeing something constructive; so why bother? If they want legitimate info, they'll get it. If they want advice, they'll get it. If they want to rant, there's a [sub-board dedicated to that]( Now, here's a question for you; how many people in a day come for legitimate info? How many people step forward and ask for advice? I seldom see players come to PB looking for anything more than yes-man answers. More often than not, I see people complain that the system is too strict when they spend half their chat log insulting players and calling for reports, or denying that they even did anything wrong. Granted, there are the rare few that do come even with us and ask for legit info/advice, and the rare few who ultimately come to understand and accept their punishment, but I think it's outrageous that you make sweeping, hyperbolic assertions of toxicity in PB while seemingly ignoring that very few people come looking for anything more than uncontested agreement. At the end of the day, though, to answer your question; why bother? Because that's the point of the board. To bother. To ask and talk about the systems. IMO, if you're seeing so much negativity, you might want to look at the roots instead of the branches. Negativity begets negativity, and while toxicity isn't condoned, there's a point to be made about the issue stemming from the OP's unwillingness to accept things that don't align with their reasoning rather than just "PB boards is full of toxic jerks".
Maybe there's something to be said about the correlation of people whining and denying responsibility on PB and the amount of negativity here; negativity breeds more of it. Which is kind of my whole point. You may have just proved my own point even better; you said yourself "I seldom see people coming to PB for anything other than Yesman answers", and I say nobody has anything constructive to say. So, if people are not using this thread for it's intended purpose, and people aren't doing anything but arguing and shutting down other people's bs, then what's the point again? We both agreed negativity begets negativity, so if negative people come to a behavior forum and make consistently negative and non productive posts, which produce negative and non productive responses, I ask again; What. Is. The. Point? Seems to me only point is to create more negativity.
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