MoiMori (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SoulDraxios,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtoHOvnn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T23:16:37.224+0000) > > Thanks and when typically is that in the year? October
> [{quoted}](name=MoiMori,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtoHOvnn,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-22T18:39:00.583+0000) > > October Thanks
: > [{quoted}](name=SoulDraxios,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtoHOvnn,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T23:45:48.289+0000) > > What's that? Yes.
> [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtoHOvnn,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-22T00:12:26.755+0000) > > Yes. correct.
: > [{quoted}](name=SoulDraxios,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtoHOvnn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T23:16:37.224+0000) > > Thanks and when typically is that in the year? Google it.
> [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtoHOvnn,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T23:44:40.873+0000) > > Google it. What's that?
MoiMori (NA)
: It should be back during worlds along with the rest of the Championship skins
> [{quoted}](name=MoiMori,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AtoHOvnn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-21T23:02:08.183+0000) > > It should be back during worlds along with the rest of the Championship skins Thanks and when typically is that in the year?
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Coolkipp (EUW)
: Regarding Lissandra's preemptive nerfs - Why this was carried out the wrong way
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Ada Wong (NA)
: So if KY* results in automated ban how about KYFS, or KYF? KYF can have multiple meanings, but KYFS is in the urban dictionary.
I have clue, I'm just gonna not quote players when they say stuff like that.
: Is this a truly bannable offense or a false positive
My ban got reversed. GG {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Want some vaseline for those nippz? Yes he is my brother
My family consists of trolls living under a bridge.
: Dear public of League I am the brother of this toxic specimen known to all of you as (SoulDraxios). I have lived miserably with him spreading his moody fungus full of purest Sodium Chloride mixed with the highest forms of negativity. It has been brought to my attention that he has finally been banished sadly not forever but in some content he has been punished for it. THIS HAS BEEN THE BEST! BEST! BEST!!!!! News I have recieved in years. I always thought to myself Leauge can’t possible have any higher elevations to its community full of rage, poison, and troll activity. But today I have awoken a new man. A man who once didn’t believe in the system until this day! I LOVE YOU LEAUGE AND HIGHLY APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS DESICION. THIS TOXIC FART (SoulDraxios) has been miserable the past 20 Hours and still has 13 days and 4 hours to go and learn from his lesson. Not once NOT ONCE HAVE I SEEN HIM WRITE ANY FORM OF ESSAY SINCE HE WAS LAST IN HIGHSCHOOL AND DUE TO HIS TOXIC SOUL HE COULD NOT HELP BUT TO DO ONE OF THE THINGS HES HATED MOST HIS LIFE AND THAT IS TO WRITE A ESSAY TO RANT ON ABOUT SOME ISSUE THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER TAKEN PLACE IF HE WAS TO BE A GOOD SUPPORTIVE PLAYER LIKE MYSELF AND BELIEVE IN HIS TEAM USING HIS CHAT ONLY FOR WORDS OF POSITIVITY, SUPPORT, and COMFORT. Again (LOL) Gods your work here has been much appreciated. 🤧😇👍🏾
Want some vaseline for those nippz? Yes he is my brother
Aladoron (EUW)
: Could you please not write out this word? Maybe use something to describe it, since there might be depressed suicidal people who would take that word alone serious, and i guess neither of us wants anything bad to happen.
Well, I probably won't be saying it in the future, solely based on the fact that the system in place doesn't decipher contexts. Of course I don't want anything to happen, but I prefer getting to the point. Having to describe something like this every time I am discussing it is more costly in energy and also potentially confuses things. It's like if someone were to call me names based on my skin color, I'd quote what they said too, for contexts, it's just life.
: I mentioned before to another that I am learning this stuff as it's going. I didn't even think that I could get banned for any of this, as it was petty child's humor. As for zero intolerance words, the last thing in my mind was, "oh, Riot has a AI developed ban system that can't read contexts, and saying "kys" is bannable." Again, this hasn't happened to me before, so it's a learning process.
Btw, nice trolling. Hopefully you don't get a 14 day ban and chat suspension too. With Love, SoulDraxios {{item:3681}}
Vreivai (NA)
: I agree that OP should not have been punished for this. However, going by the system's standards, if you ignore the parts with "kys," that chat log still would have resulted in a chat restriction if OP also behaved like that in a number of other games, or would have resulted in a permaban if OP had previously received a 14-day suspension.
Nah, the last punishment I had was a delay timer of like 5minutes for joining games, because I rage afked/quit some games, because feeding teammates. I think one of them was my game/internet disconnecting me, getting me the final afked/quit getting me the punishment. That was a while back though.
: {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Wish I was that good at messing with toxics, nooby nub haha
Not to brag, but he did get tilted. I did compliment him though when he secured a kill "SoulDraxios: good kill Aatrox".
: Always aim for live chat support!
Yea, I'll try tomorrow. I legit think this was bad call for some bad trolling.
: No. You should not have been banned. Obviously we have no idea what your other games are but... I stand by my user name. No chat system. They should just remove in game chat, only have pre and post, and then pings only in game.
if rank 5 honors consistently means anything, you may go off that. Interesting idea, but for players like me with no friends (Yes, this is a joke) will be bored not being able to troll verbally, aid noobies knowledge wise, or verbally call out an intention where pings may not be so helpful, it'll be kind of boring.
: >Doy duh doyyyy me repeat zero-tolerance word, me think an AI developed by rito game is capable of detecting context and intent, doy duh doyyyyyy https://www.google.com/search?q=riot+support
I mentioned before to another that I am learning this stuff as it's going. I didn't even think that I could get banned for any of this, as it was petty child's humor. As for zero intolerance words, the last thing in my mind was, "oh, Riot has a AI developed ban system that can't read contexts, and saying "kys" is bannable." Again, this hasn't happened to me before, so it's a learning process.
Aladoron (EUW)
: There is the 3 letter K word abbreviation in your chat log. Sorry i can not dare to write it, since maybe suicidal people are reading this post and i don't want anything bad happen to them.... So, that word is a zero-tolerance word, which means you will get punished for it. In the current case you should submit a support ticket and maybe they remove the punishment, but you should really just avoid using chat at all. It just makes you punishable.
Noted. The way I see it, saying anything should be fine, considering you have a mute button and a curse word disabled/enabled option, so I'm more curious to see if this is a legit 14 day worthy ban or not. I wasn't even going to report and didn't, because it wasn't a real issue for me, just wanted to troll someone who'd say that. It's Riots game though so overall they say what goes. All I may do is accept my fate or change it.
: Yeah thats pretty standard unfortunately. Outside of the kys, Riot also does not allow calling people trash and nooby nub. Next time just report them, especially when theyre stupid enough to write kys. Thats instant 14 day ban. They will suffer much more from that than your petty insults.
Eh, I'll just keep my mouth shut. I personally wasn't offended, so I wouldn't report for that. I'm more interested in knowing if this ban is legit or not.
: I see that now, about the automated system. I have never received something like this before, so I'm just learning about the reform card, Blitzcrank Bot, Submitting a ticket and everything now from you guys and from what I've watched recently. "you can proceed to a player behavior support specialist. They will be able to manually review everything." I'll see if I may do this. I replied to "request a human" after the Blitzcrank Bot response through email as well as the ticket itself.
How does one get a "player behavior support specialist" to manually review this? or is this the same as email and request a human?
: > [{quoted}](name=SoulDraxios,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2YFHPU6u,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-12-12T17:45:48.805+0000) > > I know it was probably a bad idea to goof on him/her, but quoting someone shouldn't get you banned. Usually quoting is used to hold people accountable for what they said or believe in whether good or bad. I looked up videos after I got banned and realized, oh, I probably got banned for quoting "kys" as where everything else I said was pretty much equivalent to child's humor. Which I believe a 14 day ban and chat suspension isn't a fair trade for such an act. I believe the automated system is why I got this ban. > > I'm not trying to report the player, I'm more curious as to if this punishment is legit or if issued due to an automated system punishing a quote, Basically my form of retaliation was to do kid like trolling. > > I have submitted a ticket, another player has helped out with how to do that. As of now, I received Blitzcrank Bot as a reply which doesn't sit well with me, due to this probably being a punishment issued by a automated system for a out of context quote. The first reply is a stock automated reply which basically has the same info as the reform card to make sure people read their punishment card. If people didn't read it in the client and went to the support tickets, it's actually an efficient way to curb unnecessary reviews of punishments with players who just needed to read the card to understand why they were punished. If the repeat of the reform card didn't answer your question, you can proceed to a player behavior support specialist. They will be able to manually review everything. As for your question about why you got the punishment, yes, it's because you used the zero tolerance policy phrase in reference to something someone said to you. Based on your side of the chat logs, it's a false positive. However, there's seriously never any need to repeat what other people say. People will get you on false positives because it is a machine learning system and it's still not the best at catching false positives. It's learning so it's not 100% accurate, which is why they allow appeals of the IFS. They're just trying to be as time efficient as possible. There have been enough times where people just go straight to support and the time would have been saved if they just sat down and read the reform card. The blitzcrank support bot basically like a captcha of "did you really read the reform card?" kind of thing and not the end of the player behavior appeal process.
I see that now, about the automated system. I have never received something like this before, so I'm just learning about the reform card, Blitzcrank Bot, Submitting a ticket and everything now from you guys and from what I've watched recently. "you can proceed to a player behavior support specialist. They will be able to manually review everything." I'll see if I may do this. I replied to "request a human" after the Blitzcrank Bot response through email as well as the ticket itself.
Dr Dog (NA)
: its all in you quoting him, the bot hat handles reports just scans chat is doesnt actually look fo obvious things like the quotes you put around it, id send in a support ticket to see about getting it reduced to a chat restrict
I sent them a ticket. Yes, I was think a chat restriction should have been a punishment if anything. Without the "kys" quotes, I'm still not sure if it's worth even that.
PH45 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=SoulDraxios,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2YFHPU6u,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-12-12T17:05:01.998+0000) > > Some additional context: > > The player said he has all the Aatrox skins, then proceeded to switch to Renekton for in game play. Which is why I mention Aatrox having a tail. > Fair enough to the Trash comment. I still don't believe it's worth a 14 days ban and chat suspension. Do you? > I'll add this to the main post though. I never said that the ''trash'' comment was banworthy, but context doesn't usually matter when you are typing the zero-tolerance words, such as the one you typed on 2 occasions.
Yea, I realized I probably triggered an automated system when I quoted what I did after watching some videos of why people got banned. Blitzcrank Bot gave a response, but I'm hoping a human will read and determine with context if my punishment is suitable or not.
T2K Baka (NA)
: Someone told me to "kys", i reported them and they still haven't got banned. That's bs since I got banned for saying that too, which wasn't right of me, but when my midlaner came to my jg and started taking camps for 20 mins because I killed the enemy midlaner as he was about to kill her. I apparently "stole her kill" since I killed TF as his aa was about to go through and kill my syndra. After 20 min of having this syndra following me and taking camps putting me behind, she leaves and my adc comes and starts taking camps. That was when i said "kys" to syndra and kalista. I got banned after that and have never said anything like that ever. So when i report players who tell me to "kys", why do they not get banned? How is that fair?
After watching some videos of people getting banned, I think simply saying "kys" regardless of context can get you banned. Also I wouldn't have said "kys" even if syndra and kalista were griefing.
: They generally don’t want you using “kys,” even if you’re quoting someone. It couldn’t hurt to send in a ticket.
I have sent a ticket, hopefully a human reads it to see the context and determines the punishment from there. As of now only Blitzcrank Bot has responded.
: First, there's no reason to repeat anything someone said. It's already in the chat log for the game. Just mute and report and move on. Repeating it only just makes things worse for you and most likely will end in an escalation between you and the person who you are having a problem with in game. Second, if it's truly a false positive and you aren't making it up just to try and get people banned by claiming they said it (this has happened and people tried to claim it on the forums and Tantram came down on them hard and escalated the situation with player behavior because of this habitual behavior) you can open up a support ticket and ask for a review of the chat log because player behavior gets to see the whole chat log while you only get to see what you said. If indeed this is a false positive, you will most likely get your punishment reversed. You should be very polite and respectful in your support ticket and in subsequent interactions with them. They have no obligation to reverse your punishment.
I know it was probably a bad idea to goof on him/her, but quoting someone shouldn't get you banned. Usually quoting is used to hold people accountable for what they said or believe in whether good or bad. I looked up videos after I got banned and realized, oh, I probably got banned for quoting "kys" as where everything else I said was pretty much equivalent to child's humor. Which I believe a 14 day ban and chat suspension isn't a fair trade for such an act. I believe the automated system is why I got this ban. I'm not trying to report the player, I'm more curious as to if this punishment is legit or if issued due to an automated system punishing a quote, Basically my form of retaliation was to do kid like trolling. I have submitted a ticket, another player has helped out with how to do that. As of now, I received Blitzcrank Bot as a reply which doesn't sit well with me, due to this probably being a punishment issued by a automated system for a out of context quote.
: Oh, I see, My bad! {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} I'll edit my post, thank you for clarifying
PH45 (EUNE)
: Riot Support is your best hope, but generally I wouldn't suggest typing the word k%s ever, even if you are just saying someone else said it. Riot has firm zero-tolerance for that word, context or not. Also this isn't very nice but not banworthy I guess: > SoulDraxios: Trash Aatrox player
Some additional context: The player said he has all the Aatrox skins, then proceeded to switch to Renekton for in game play. Which is why I mention Aatrox having a tail. Fair enough to the Trash comment. I still don't believe it's worth a 14 days ban and chat suspension. Do you? I'll add this to the main post though.
: Tough spot, I don't think the IFS takes into consideration whether you are quoting somebody or not, so it looks like you are the one saying it, which is a no-go Let's take a look at the things that might have caused you to be given this punishment; > SoulDraxios: guy tells me to "kys" says im toxxic.... > SoulDraxios: this top lane Aatrox is a unlucky goof head > SoulDraxios: cuz you told me to "kys" All in all, This very well might be deserving a 14-day suspension according to IFS, learn from this and avoid making the same mistake in the future Quoting them is the same as saying it, talking negatively to or about a player is an offense of the Summoners Code The best you can do in situations like these is to Mute them, Play your Best and then Report them after the game. Refrain from engaging in negative behavior in chat, no matter the situation. Good luck in future games - {{sticker:galio-happy}}
Some additional context: The player said he has all the Aatrox skins, then proceeded to switch to Renekton for in game play. Which is why I mention Aatrox having a tail. As for asking an ally to kill Aatrox, this isn't true. I asked Shaco, our jg to camp our dead ally Aatrox who is actually playing as Renekton in this game.
: Rioters wont revert the ban probably but you can send a ticket to riot support to have them review the case. Unfortunately for you they probably wont revert it even from the context since they generally have a firm stance against using it ever. Below is a link to riot support to which you can proceed to make a ticket for your case. Just click "submit a ticket" https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us
: the letters "kys" will generally get you banned if you use them in pre/post or even during the game
That's what I believe I really got banned for. Is there a way to get a human to review this? A robot simply won't consider context.
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