5050BS (NA)
: Hey Riot why can Yasuo Ult when he is Rooted?
Uhh, he can't? Outside of a bug, there is no reason for yasuo to be able to ult after getting rooted hell, I have thousands of games with yasuo and I don't think I've ever been able to ult while rooted.
Zed genius (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kovorix,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XfkPahMG,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-30T17:20:10.859+0000) > > Tbf you can't bully someone with the option to full mute everyone. What you wanna do? Hack into their headsets and flame them? That's what I was thinking would be the counter to said "abuse"
I mean, yeah... Considering you can mute all communication, I'm not sure how you could get bullied out of the game... Supposedly, this gsne is rated T, so the expected playerbase should be mature enough to not leave when such options are available
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Does anyone actually get enough orange essence to redeem skins?
I mean, I do... I have 3 k essence saved up. The trick is to disenchant expensive skins you dont want, and re-roll low cost skins
: > [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Airlines,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fzP9hOIN,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-24T12:46:15.681+0000) > > I can enjoy myself while tryharding and playing to win i cant, im forced to be a metaslave or have no control over my matches. i dont like to play meta, so high plat/low diamond is where ill peak every season, and i alrdy know that. i dont need to grind it out again for a pointless border. after many seasons of the same rank with Leona Jungle, and Nocturne top, ive accepted that Low diamond is as high as ill go with either one. No point doing it all over again.
or...just maybe...play what you like (as long as it isn't really really off meta)
: idk why ppl play ranked in this game. Theres nothing to show for your hard work and dedication. Just play normals, have fun and be stress free. Ranked isnt worth your sanity for a useless loadscreen boarder. Every gold/plat player is still gonna think youre a stupid idiot dumby head already anyways.
Ehh, better matches really. It's not fun playing against people who aren't really trying to win.
Eedat (NA)
: They don't have a choice if you manage waves correctly. How are they going to harass you while also have the wave shove to them? They can't. The second they harass you in an even wave it automatically shoves to you. Odd they push it all rice way to your tower then it'll stay pushing back out. You then wait for your wave to stack up and use the minion advantage to push into their tower to reset then back. They can't freeze if you don't let them. They can't tank an entire stacked wave and you at the same time. Or just continue to cry because you'd rather be a victim than learn anything. Good example
You realize that the problem in these lanes, is that if they "harass" you, it's generally for a good 30% or more of your hp? So yeah, I'll 100% break my own freeze in order to force you to back or risk getting all inned. And then the moment you back, I push to tower, and either force a tp, or get a few plates, giving me a major gold and exp advantage, which I then use to snowball further and further. And it's now like that's anything new, Top lane has always been snowbally. The problem now, is that counterpicks are feeling too strong, to the point where matchups you used to be able to win through skill or stalling, now end up as total wipes.
Loliver (NA)
: Stop playing Yasuo ADC
It's the role with his highest winrate.... Yasuo top is a joke these days, and midlaners tend to have the tools to just sit back and scale without interacting with yasuo. Bot lane is honestly the best lane for him atm
Moody P (NA)
: Garen rework misconceptions
I think the best way to give him more skill expression, is to tie most of his tankiness to his W active. Remove the farmable stats from it, but change W so that it's CD gets lowered depending on how much damage you "absorb" during the active period. it'll make him weaker in low elo, while giving him some more skill expression. Or to get really crazy, move farmable stats to his passive, and move his healing to be an after affect of W active, where he heals for a flat amount per sec that can be increased depending on how much damage he "absorbed" during W. While he will lose the advantage of sitting back to regen a ridiculous amount of hp, he will get the benefit of being more sustainable during fights
: > [{quoted}](name=Yboat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fniG6YAw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-13T01:46:00.439+0000) > > Pro play The game is more bronze and Iron not pro play.
Worlds is coming up, so Riot is making sure the game is relatively neutral before it, meaning champs that show strong presence in pro play will get nerfed so that they don't end up dominating worlds. Also, while the majority of the playerbase is basically silver and below, one can't balance a game around the players who are unable to use champions to their fullest potential
Anatera (NA)
: It's meaningless to rattle off winrates if you don't even understand why people ban certain champs
You know why people bring up winrates? Because you cant objectively balance a game based on if you "feel" something isn't fun. League is an esport, and you can't just be making balance changes unless you have a real reason for doing so. I personally really don't like Caitlyn or LeBlanc, but that doesn't mean they should be nerfed.
: He's only weak if you can't play him. He's like S++++ tier if you can play him to his fullest (or almost) fullest potential.
Yeah, thats why his winrate has dropped to like 47% while maintaining the same playrate and having the highest % of mains, because he's actually strong
Loliver (NA)
: Who is the most stylish champion to kill with?
One Two Three Four {{champion:202}}
: Pyke has officially taken Yasuos place as my most hated champion.
ive started playing ryze and its amazing He comes in, i root him, and my team blows him up every single fight
: A simple trick would be allow different defenses. Range AD vs Range Def Melee AD vs Melee Def Melee AD vs Range Def Range AD vs Melee Def Armor is general AD Def Some champs tank better against melee, some champs tank better against range, some champs are all around. Make Range a factor if something is Melee or Range If a range is in "melee range" they do the Melee dmg, so if a Melee champ has high Range Def, they have to get close to them to deal that extra damage, but risking their own safety. This way Range can't just abuse Melees and adds more risk vs reward to the Range champions. AP was exempt in this situation to simplify.
I've suggested something similar years back (like 4 years+). The response I got was that it would be A. Hard to code B. Convoluted and C. require a full re-balancing of the game.
: Jhin/Cait are hella popular too.
Jhin has a great theme and is a well executed champ. Cait is just picked because abusing range is so famn good.
: well shit a broken clock tells the right time twice a day
Well, guess I should've known better than to expect an actual discussion on a discussion board
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SithesisLord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A8z8ygjE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-02T01:25:55.093+0000) > > Jax is a late game champion. Remove SoS and he'll still not fall off because he's not supposed to fall off. > > He just needs to actually be weak early. I disagree with this. I don't think Jax is supposed to be a late game champ. And either way, his late game is WAY too strong currently (and just because of SOS).
He was one of the original hyper carries....
: It's painful to play {{champion:161}} in mid when this exists
Ehh, just get used to e-Qing behind yourself when he ults and then sidestep your shurikens
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=JackMcCarry,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=heyfOlPm,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-07-28T04:21:14.785+0000) > > "tHe WiNrAtE" is a much better way to measure a champion's strength rather than people's reactional bias. > > And yea, a champion with 47% mid WR, 46% top WR and 49% bot WR requires anything BUT nerfs. 15-25% of the community are playing him. That 1 in 5 on average, meaning every game would have about 2 Yasuo mains, 1 on each team. A champ that absurdly popular is ofc going to have lower win rate since every turd and their shit dog is playing Yasuo. The fact he still maintains a win rate close to 50%, combined with his staggering high ban rate even in high elo, is indicative the champ having a lot of issues.
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/yasuo TIL that a 47% wi rate is near 50% P.S. it really isnt, and more than that, historically, yasuo has had a 50% winrate even with a high playdate due to the fact he has the single highest number of mains. The fact that he's at a 47% wi rate in plat+ means he is actually really bad in the current meta
: In season 5 it was never the case that any game was over in 10 minutes. FF at 15 is necessary in season 9 so we don't go insane. I wish people would use it more though. Too many people don't surrender when we are lik 9-25 in 17 minutes. Like what the fuck. That is over.
Because honestly, it really doesn't become unwinnable till they have baron + supers. Up till that point, you can basically stall and potentially get the right picks to come back into the game. Honestly, the only reason you should be surrendering so early, is if you have an early game comp that completely got stomped, or you have an afk
: Can someone fill me in on how this is good on Kled to make him that different? Doesn't he have to actually snatch you to get the wounds? Don't most people have ways to avoid that and even then mortal reminder does the same thing so why is it gross on him
not that hard to land it by e-ing in, then point blank q. Also, it's on a low cd, and is not the slowest skill shot, so you will get hit eventually
: pls buff aatrox?
Don't build pure damage anymore. Go for a more traditional bruiser build and you'll be fine
ODiiiiiN (NA)
: I have to agree with everyone.. {{champion:157}} {{champion:555}} hands down. It should say something that most people agree. Pyke is overpowered. Mianly bc of his ULT. his kit is decent but when you have an excute ult (that you can use multiple times) then he just becomes OP AF. He should either have 1 strike with his ulti or his health regen/ invisi/ speed boost.. should be significantely nerfed. He literally has a blitz grab.. invisibilty.. speed boost... quick health regen.. multiple execute. extra gold.. bruiser dmg. I mean you read this back and you think I'm exagerating. But no thats literally his whole kit. Yas.. well.. What can be said that we dont already know. Anyone who learns how to at least half ass play him, only need IE and statik shiv to be OP at level 6, soo... Its just your typical broken champ. But he'll never be fixed, just like referees refrain from giving super stars fouls, bc theyre the cover boys.
I wanna know what gods you are playing with or against, that are getting shiv and ie by level 6
: I don't play Aatrox but..
Honestly, he's fine. He is retaining the identity that most people picked him up for, which is being a drain tank who relies on dealing phat damage. Now, would I prefer a version that is aa based, yes, but that doesn't stop the current version from being fun, and having a ton of skill expression
: No. Old Aatrox was a balance nightmare. We have a version of the old Aatrox already. It's simply that a _balanced_ version of that kit _belongs_ in the jungle. You cannot make a version of that kit that's not either underpowered or overpowered and still have it be a top laner.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EEYuvIWH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T06:54:44.137+0000) > > No. Old Aatrox was a balance nightmare. > > We have a version of the old Aatrox already. It's simply that a _balanced_ version of that kit _belongs_ in the jungle. You cannot make a version of that kit that's not either underpowered or overpowered and still have it be a top laner. The iteration right before his rework was pretty balanced. Both players basically had to play around bloodwell, and the one that did it better, basically won. And while he had an amazing early and mid game, he did fall off lategame, as he normally wouldn't be able to dps down a front line fast enough, or get to the back line and survive long enough to kill anyone
: I'm not saying I am owed a victory, I'm saying that the game has turned into "one side stomping the other side" and it's finally breaking me. I don't mind losing games if they're close or feel fair. But with how the game is right now, it doesn't feel great to lose since it's all about who can snowball harder and who has higher damage while the other team just sits there and takes it until unanimous 15 surrender or 20 minute surrender
I mean, as long as you aren't playing in like diamond+, it's very possible to comeback and make games even....
: Thread solved. Also, anyone who believes Windwall has Counter Play does not understand Counter Play.
A bit late but.. Counterplay is having the ability to play around an ability. Windwall has counter play, assuming the player chooses to use it. It has a long cooldown, meaning that baiting it out is actually counterplay, same as if you were baiting out an ultimate. It it also stationary, meaning one can either walk away from it, or walk around it. Now, assuming one **CHOOSES ** not to use windwalls counterplay, it can very well seem that it doesn't have any.
: Your Cerebral Cortex doesn't fully develop until you are roughly 25 years old
I will say, I feel a noticeable difference between my thought process at 17/18 compared to now at 21 It is really quite odd how flippantly I regarded long term consequences of my actions
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: July 12
Any news about fixing the windwall bug on yasuo? We havent really had any communication about it, and it's been going on for maybe 2+ months
: Its been long enough to the point i've even forgotten the actual length.
Since they said we'd have a bruiser rework season 4 along with the renekton bar
Moody P (NA)
: Darius hook is delayed and 535 range
thats where barrels come into play. Slow down your opponents, speed yourself up, or both
Akheteru (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HommeGoujon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AQcKP48q,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-04T17:52:33.184+0000) > > That's why I play {{champion:98}} , you don't need to win the lane to stay relevant. And if you're actually winning the lane, you're in for some extra fun :) I wish I had a dollar for every game I played Shen top, was perma-shoved AND hard camped and never got a gank from my jungler, and yet still turned a big fight around with my ult so we could get baron and run it down mid for the win while the other team was aced.
There are easier ways to earn 5 dollars, just sayin
Profirix (NA)
: That is pretty much the tone I get from the changes. Destroy his top lane ability (which I really am ok with) and also cripple the dead horse of his ability to support. The champion is in desperate need of a true rework. Mark my words, he will be B A D. You will lose every bottom lane match up, even against tanks because you won't be doing enough offensively or defensively. **_Not being able to devour after a stun will KILL this champion._** There is no where near enough compensation for what they are taking out.
honestly, it looks like they want to transition him to being a jungler.
Kivolan (NA)
: Yasuo's Q - Why Is It Not Coded As AoE?
You know, I'd agree with you, if you weren't wrong... Yasuo's q applies on hits for the first target only. Any other target is treated as if hit by an ability. So, how it actually works, is DD will heal 15% on the first target, and 5% for every other target. BT heals only on the first target hit. Same thing for q3. Not sure about e-q, but I'd expect that it treats the e'd target as the first enemy struck.
koshkyra (NA)
: > Mages shouldn’t be top, bruisers shouldnt be mid. Couldn’t have said it better myself. {{champion:157}} {{champion:39}} are cancer mid, {{champion:85}} {{champion:518}} are cancer top. Both of them would be much fairer to play against if they were balanced for their actual lanes.
Uhh, yasuo is a mid laner? Technically, he was supposed to be viable mid and bot lane...
Moody P (NA)
: ah so now its "don't be first pick"
It's some korean level advice Just dont get counterpicked
FSRER (EUNE)
: They do, Right until the point that he Q you 2 times and he tornado ults you and he just gets 50% armor pen on crits and that is when the final countdown starts. From then, you have about 3 seconds of life even when full armor.
i don't think you understand how crippling randuins and tabi are. Yasuo's dps basically gets reduced 32% (assuming it works additively, i don't have time to check). And considering he already has lower dps than other aa based carries, that's a lot of damage to be missing.
: Why does Yasuo get the best skins?
Bloodmoon = Essentially a chroma Project = Was so clunky and bugged for years that even now people avoid it Nightbringer = good skin Odyssey = kinda meh, can feel clunky at times, and hence not as used High noon = a great skin for the pricing. Very nice to use
FSRER (EUNE)
: Wrong usage of words, you are correct. Yasuo will **shred** through armor for no reason whatsoever even when someone has ninja tabis and randuins combined. Now, thats better.
lol what? Not saying he doesn't shred through armor, because that's the whole point of his ult, but tabis and randuins neuters his damage so hard XD
LTK KoRo (EUW)
: > Jungle should be a supportive and not a carry role. that's 100% wrong boi, no one who plays jungle wants to be a second supp
And no one other than junglers want the jungle to singlehandedly be able to win games
: Sorry bro, I'm not willing to put up with 15 minutes queue times. Let AF stay.
> [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MehEyk7N,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-23T19:02:45.241+0000) > > Sorry bro, I'm not willing to put up with 15 minutes queue times. Let AF stay. At the same time, I don't want people to be so specialized in their roles, that they don't understand how other roles work, and why they can or can't do something at a certain time
Kanzler (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NvimQ909,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-23T02:59:27.777+0000) > > Nice! > > I've been thinking about stopping myself, but it's hard to find pleasant alternatives I can drink at work (I can't stand coffee or tea) Have you tried water?
> [{quoted}](name=Kanzler,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NvimQ909,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-23T03:04:52.511+0000) > > Have you tried water? I know the local comedy club kicked you out, but you cant just come here to try to get a laugh... Maybe comedy just isnt for you buddy
: Guys it Has Been a Week Since I Stopped Drinking Soda.
Nice! I've been thinking about stopping myself, but it's hard to find pleasant alternatives I can drink at work (I can't stand coffee or tea)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=0000000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-22T17:29:34.959+0000) > > Yeah, people want ganks, but you seem to forget how much people hate getting taxed on gold and exp... So do you think junglers that push waves should be banned for griefing too? If so yikes
> [{quoted}](name=BestPudgeNA,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=00000001000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T18:21:51.744+0000) > > So do you think junglers that push waves should be banned for griefing too? > > If so yikes The fact you dont understand the difference between getting taxed and getting help pushing in the wave explains how you can support Nubrac
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T21:06:36.360+0000) > > I disagree with the premise that he was "griefing" in that this applies that he was a bad faith player. He helped the {{champion:39}} get first blood and he ended with a better KDA than NB3. I am not saying that he wasn't in the wrong for playing Teemo mid support, that is some trolly sh*t that requires consent from both your mid laner and bot laner before locking in. My point is that even though the Teemo was wrong in his methodology, NB3 was also, if not MORE wrong in the way he carried himself as a representation of LoL as one of their partners. why does it require consent? most laners hope and pray for jungler interference as a buddy for their lane. Have marksmen or bottom laners asked for the consent of the support players? it's an annoying strategy, but it has shown results
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=000000010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-21T22:45:42.711+0000) > > why does it require consent? most laners hope and pray for jungler interference as a buddy for their lane. Have marksmen or bottom laners asked for the consent of the support players? > > it's an annoying strategy, but it has shown results Yeah, people want ganks, but you seem to forget how much people hate getting taxed on gold and exp...
: >I can't believe I have to say this, but this is a shit post people. Don't take it seriously. The entire point of this post is to make duo mid look as ridiculous as possible in order to support the original Nubrac ban. Saying "It's just a shitpost" is disingenuous.
> [{quoted}](name=Glaricion,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c7xmFKmA,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-21T23:45:32.240+0000) > > The entire point of this post is to make duo mid look as ridiculous as possible in order to support the original Nubrac ban. Saying "It's just a shitpost" is disingenuous. What I meant by saying it's a shit post, is not that I'm saying I have no position on nubrac. I think he deserved his ban, as well as NB3. What I meant, was that some people thought I was seriously peddling this strat, Instead of understanding the absurd nature of the post. Maybe shitpost isnt the right term, but it was the closest thing I could think of.
Larriet (NA)
: >this is a shit post people Memes & Games is over that-a-way.
> [{quoted}](name=Larriet,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c7xmFKmA,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-06-22T04:17:09.337+0000) > > Memes & Games is over that-a-way. Its GD, afaik, anything goes
: Ass *insert inappropriate name* said. He's garbage, I play him a lot and tend to do well with him and do enjoy playing him, but Teemo is pure garbage right now. He's been hit with too many nerfs with not nearly enough compensation. Back when vision changes first came he was stupidly strong, 1 shroom could easily win a teamfight single handedly. They nerfed that damage on it and his E hard then buffed his Q giving him practically 1 good source of damage, after awhile item changes/runes etc. came and he was picked for a bit again, Riot nerfed him once more. Then we have the glorious trash season we're in now where they introduced these new rune system and what not. He was strong for about 1 patch, then came another nerf to his E damage with no compensation. The idea was that since nobody had armor/mr it was easy to bully with him instead nerfing him to be in line with everyone they decided to trash him. Revitalize rune (the one that gives you regen after taking damage from a champion) Dorans shield His E nerf Cowl and now boneplating (or w/e this brand new keystone is called that reduces damage) as well as ninja tabi His damage just gets negated ridiculously hard, he does have a few niche builds that can sometimes work but as others have said, why pick him over a champ that's flat out unfair? I'm not a Teemo hater either so i'm not being salty. I have mastery 7 with him and play him quite often. He's just not worth picking competitively unless you 1 trick him
And lets be honest, he's not exactly fair when strong either. Unless you have such high raw stats that you can roll over him, he dominates near every (melee) matchup. And I remember when his shrooms would chunk you for 80% of your hp if you were a squishy. It was not a good time, especially with the lack of oracles at that point
abca98 (EUW)
: How do you fake gold card? Serious question.
pull out gold card. press S to stop, and watch a good yas throw out wall. then throw.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Relax I am noob,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c7xmFKmA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-21T13:54:06.532+0000) > > https://i.imgur.com/NLLqES4.jpg It was too much power for any one man to wield. I had to share it with the world
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