: I don't play Aatrox but..
Honestly, he's fine. He is retaining the identity that most people picked him up for, which is being a drain tank who relies on dealing phat damage. Now, would I prefer a version that is aa based, yes, but that doesn't stop the current version from being fun, and having a ton of skill expression
: No. Old Aatrox was a balance nightmare. We have a version of the old Aatrox already. It's simply that a _balanced_ version of that kit _belongs_ in the jungle. You cannot make a version of that kit that's not either underpowered or overpowered and still have it be a top laner.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EEYuvIWH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T06:54:44.137+0000) > > No. Old Aatrox was a balance nightmare. > > We have a version of the old Aatrox already. It's simply that a _balanced_ version of that kit _belongs_ in the jungle. You cannot make a version of that kit that's not either underpowered or overpowered and still have it be a top laner. The iteration right before his rework was pretty balanced. Both players basically had to play around bloodwell, and the one that did it better, basically won. And while he had an amazing early and mid game, he did fall off lategame, as he normally wouldn't be able to dps down a front line fast enough, or get to the back line and survive long enough to kill anyone
: I'm not saying I am owed a victory, I'm saying that the game has turned into "one side stomping the other side" and it's finally breaking me. I don't mind losing games if they're close or feel fair. But with how the game is right now, it doesn't feel great to lose since it's all about who can snowball harder and who has higher damage while the other team just sits there and takes it until unanimous 15 surrender or 20 minute surrender
I mean, as long as you aren't playing in like diamond+, it's very possible to comeback and make games even....
: Thread solved. Also, anyone who believes Windwall has Counter Play does not understand Counter Play.
A bit late but.. Counterplay is having the ability to play around an ability. Windwall has counter play, assuming the player chooses to use it. It has a long cooldown, meaning that baiting it out is actually counterplay, same as if you were baiting out an ultimate. It it also stationary, meaning one can either walk away from it, or walk around it. Now, assuming one **CHOOSES ** not to use windwalls counterplay, it can very well seem that it doesn't have any.
: Your Cerebral Cortex doesn't fully develop until you are roughly 25 years old
I will say, I feel a noticeable difference between my thought process at 17/18 compared to now at 21 It is really quite odd how flippantly I regarded long term consequences of my actions
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: July 12
Any news about fixing the windwall bug on yasuo? We havent really had any communication about it, and it's been going on for maybe 2+ months
: Its been long enough to the point i've even forgotten the actual length.
Since they said we'd have a bruiser rework season 4 along with the renekton bar
: Am I the only one getting rekt by a flux of Tryndameres
all you need to do is beat down his team 5v4. The only reason he can split push so well, is that you guys somehow are getting stalled out by a group of 4, which means either you have a shit line up, or aren't playing well.
Moody P (NA)
: Darius hook is delayed and 535 range
thats where barrels come into play. Slow down your opponents, speed yourself up, or both
Akheteru (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HommeGoujon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AQcKP48q,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-04T17:52:33.184+0000) > > That's why I play {{champion:98}} , you don't need to win the lane to stay relevant. And if you're actually winning the lane, you're in for some extra fun :) I wish I had a dollar for every game I played Shen top, was perma-shoved AND hard camped and never got a gank from my jungler, and yet still turned a big fight around with my ult so we could get baron and run it down mid for the win while the other team was aced.
There are easier ways to earn 5 dollars, just sayin
Profirix (NA)
: That is pretty much the tone I get from the changes. Destroy his top lane ability (which I really am ok with) and also cripple the dead horse of his ability to support. The champion is in desperate need of a true rework. Mark my words, he will be B A D. You will lose every bottom lane match up, even against tanks because you won't be doing enough offensively or defensively. **_Not being able to devour after a stun will KILL this champion._** There is no where near enough compensation for what they are taking out.
honestly, it looks like they want to transition him to being a jungler.
Kivolan (NA)
: Yasuo's Q - Why Is It Not Coded As AoE?
You know, I'd agree with you, if you weren't wrong... Yasuo's q applies on hits for the first target only. Any other target is treated as if hit by an ability. So, how it actually works, is DD will heal 15% on the first target, and 5% for every other target. BT heals only on the first target hit. Same thing for q3. Not sure about e-q, but I'd expect that it treats the e'd target as the first enemy struck.
: > Mages shouldn’t be top, bruisers shouldnt be mid. Couldn’t have said it better myself. {{champion:157}} {{champion:39}} are cancer mid, {{champion:85}} {{champion:518}} are cancer top. Both of them would be much fairer to play against if they were balanced for their actual lanes.
Uhh, yasuo is a mid laner? Technically, he was supposed to be viable mid and bot lane...
Moody P (NA)
: ah so now its "don't be first pick"
It's some korean level advice Just dont get counterpicked
FSRER (EUNE)
: They do, Right until the point that he Q you 2 times and he tornado ults you and he just gets 50% armor pen on crits and that is when the final countdown starts. From then, you have about 3 seconds of life even when full armor.
i don't think you understand how crippling randuins and tabi are. Yasuo's dps basically gets reduced 32% (assuming it works additively, i don't have time to check). And considering he already has lower dps than other aa based carries, that's a lot of damage to be missing.
: Why does Yasuo get the best skins?
Bloodmoon = Essentially a chroma Project = Was so clunky and bugged for years that even now people avoid it Nightbringer = good skin Odyssey = kinda meh, can feel clunky at times, and hence not as used High noon = a great skin for the pricing. Very nice to use
FSRER (EUNE)
: Wrong usage of words, you are correct. Yasuo will **shred** through armor for no reason whatsoever even when someone has ninja tabis and randuins combined. Now, thats better.
lol what? Not saying he doesn't shred through armor, because that's the whole point of his ult, but tabis and randuins neuters his damage so hard XD
LTK KoRo (EUW)
: > Jungle should be a supportive and not a carry role. that's 100% wrong boi, no one who plays jungle wants to be a second supp
And no one other than junglers want the jungle to singlehandedly be able to win games
: Sorry bro, I'm not willing to put up with 15 minutes queue times. Let AF stay.
> [{quoted}](name=FioraWillCarry,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MehEyk7N,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-23T19:02:45.241+0000) > > Sorry bro, I'm not willing to put up with 15 minutes queue times. Let AF stay. At the same time, I don't want people to be so specialized in their roles, that they don't understand how other roles work, and why they can or can't do something at a certain time
Kanzler (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NvimQ909,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-23T02:59:27.777+0000) > > Nice! > > I've been thinking about stopping myself, but it's hard to find pleasant alternatives I can drink at work (I can't stand coffee or tea) Have you tried water?
> [{quoted}](name=Kanzler,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NvimQ909,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-23T03:04:52.511+0000) > > Have you tried water? I know the local comedy club kicked you out, but you cant just come here to try to get a laugh... Maybe comedy just isnt for you buddy
: Guys it Has Been a Week Since I Stopped Drinking Soda.
Nice! I've been thinking about stopping myself, but it's hard to find pleasant alternatives I can drink at work (I can't stand coffee or tea)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=0000000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-22T17:29:34.959+0000) > > Yeah, people want ganks, but you seem to forget how much people hate getting taxed on gold and exp... So do you think junglers that push waves should be banned for griefing too? If so yikes
> [{quoted}](name=BestPudgeNA,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=00000001000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T18:21:51.744+0000) > > So do you think junglers that push waves should be banned for griefing too? > > If so yikes The fact you dont understand the difference between getting taxed and getting help pushing in the wave explains how you can support Nubrac
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-21T21:06:36.360+0000) > > I disagree with the premise that he was "griefing" in that this applies that he was a bad faith player. He helped the {{champion:39}} get first blood and he ended with a better KDA than NB3. I am not saying that he wasn't in the wrong for playing Teemo mid support, that is some trolly sh*t that requires consent from both your mid laner and bot laner before locking in. My point is that even though the Teemo was wrong in his methodology, NB3 was also, if not MORE wrong in the way he carried himself as a representation of LoL as one of their partners. why does it require consent? most laners hope and pray for jungler interference as a buddy for their lane. Have marksmen or bottom laners asked for the consent of the support players? it's an annoying strategy, but it has shown results
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IlRGvrEY,comment-id=000000010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-21T22:45:42.711+0000) > > why does it require consent? most laners hope and pray for jungler interference as a buddy for their lane. Have marksmen or bottom laners asked for the consent of the support players? > > it's an annoying strategy, but it has shown results Yeah, people want ganks, but you seem to forget how much people hate getting taxed on gold and exp...
: >I can't believe I have to say this, but this is a shit post people. Don't take it seriously. The entire point of this post is to make duo mid look as ridiculous as possible in order to support the original Nubrac ban. Saying "It's just a shitpost" is disingenuous.
> [{quoted}](name=Glaricion,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c7xmFKmA,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-21T23:45:32.240+0000) > > The entire point of this post is to make duo mid look as ridiculous as possible in order to support the original Nubrac ban. Saying "It's just a shitpost" is disingenuous. What I meant by saying it's a shit post, is not that I'm saying I have no position on nubrac. I think he deserved his ban, as well as NB3. What I meant, was that some people thought I was seriously peddling this strat, Instead of understanding the absurd nature of the post. Maybe shitpost isnt the right term, but it was the closest thing I could think of.
Larriet (NA)
: >this is a shit post people Memes & Games is over that-a-way.
> [{quoted}](name=Larriet,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c7xmFKmA,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-06-22T04:17:09.337+0000) > > Memes & Games is over that-a-way. Its GD, afaik, anything goes
: Ass *insert inappropriate name* said. He's garbage, I play him a lot and tend to do well with him and do enjoy playing him, but Teemo is pure garbage right now. He's been hit with too many nerfs with not nearly enough compensation. Back when vision changes first came he was stupidly strong, 1 shroom could easily win a teamfight single handedly. They nerfed that damage on it and his E hard then buffed his Q giving him practically 1 good source of damage, after awhile item changes/runes etc. came and he was picked for a bit again, Riot nerfed him once more. Then we have the glorious trash season we're in now where they introduced these new rune system and what not. He was strong for about 1 patch, then came another nerf to his E damage with no compensation. The idea was that since nobody had armor/mr it was easy to bully with him instead nerfing him to be in line with everyone they decided to trash him. Revitalize rune (the one that gives you regen after taking damage from a champion) Dorans shield His E nerf Cowl and now boneplating (or w/e this brand new keystone is called that reduces damage) as well as ninja tabi His damage just gets negated ridiculously hard, he does have a few niche builds that can sometimes work but as others have said, why pick him over a champ that's flat out unfair? I'm not a Teemo hater either so i'm not being salty. I have mastery 7 with him and play him quite often. He's just not worth picking competitively unless you 1 trick him
And lets be honest, he's not exactly fair when strong either. Unless you have such high raw stats that you can roll over him, he dominates near every (melee) matchup. And I remember when his shrooms would chunk you for 80% of your hp if you were a squishy. It was not a good time, especially with the lack of oracles at that point
abca98 (EUW)
: How do you fake gold card? Serious question.
pull out gold card. press S to stop, and watch a good yas throw out wall. then throw.
: https://i.imgur.com/NLLqES4.jpg[\img]
> [{quoted}](name=Relax I am noob,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c7xmFKmA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-21T13:54:06.532+0000) > > https://i.imgur.com/NLLqES4.jpg It was too much power for any one man to wield. I had to share it with the world
: Wow thanks to your one trick pony build, I just ended up in Challenger I! I've honored your account.
> [{quoted}](name=1Mathemagician0,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c7xmFKmA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-21T13:44:02.529+0000) > > Wow thanks to your one trick pony build, I just ended up in Challenger I! > > I've honored your account. No problem my good friend, I figured the strat was so good, it would be criminal not to share it
Rioter Comments
Aladoron (EUW)
: Didn't he have an okayish winrate with it? It doesn't look like trolling... Or is there a rule, which states you are forced to play meta, when you have streamers in your game? O.o
I mean, sub 50% winrates make you lose elo, so from what I can tell, he played other champs to keep his elo up, despite losing more than 50% of his teemo games
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: Even if they are easy, as you claim, it is also easier to play around them. Sure, Darius is strong, but when you learn his patterns, he becomes someone that you can position against. Same eith your other examples. They almost always telegraph their actions. Juggernauts are not as tanky as pure tanks, and they don't deal so much damage compared to fighters. You need to understand their weaknesses, then you can beat them and avoid getting Q'd to death.
Pretty much this (though I will always have a lasting hatred for how strong darius is) Sure, they are easier to play, but they also have less agency, so to speak. They are stuck into a few patterns of play, that if they don't work out, the champion instantly becomes useless. Harder champs tend to have more agency, and more of an ability to adapt their play to the situation
: I think I speak for all tahm kench mains when I say, we would be glad to sacrifice ourselves for a riven nerf. We are used to playing a sub 46% winrate champ anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EPqAvWZj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-18T21:42:43.717+0000) > > I think I speak for all tahm kench mains when I say, we would be glad to sacrifice ourselves for a riven nerf. > > > We are used to playing a sub 46% winrate champ anyway. I'm a tahm enthusiast myself, and I miss the days when unbenching the kench was considered a fools task. Also, fuck riven, she's too good with the current runes to not be nerfed.
: now this, this is a good take on the matter. the underlying problem is that riot are unreachable for us regular folk, imagine being in high elo and having no rito contact and having to put up with your reports being tanked by nubrac for months on end.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP62E7iK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-18T17:29:55.959+0000) > > now this, this is a good take on the matter. > the underlying problem is that riot are unreachable for us regular folk, imagine being in high elo and having no rito contact and having to put up with your reports being tanked by nubrac for months on end. I mean, you can easily write a ticket with evidence, it just takes more than time simply reporting at the end of a game. People like to forget that we technically have a way of actually contacting riot
: What female ranged champions are frail looking but is a fighter and can fight up close?
Irelia {{champion:39}} comes to mind first of all, being perhaps one of the most hated champs in the game atm XD. Apart from her, there's always Fiora, being not so great, but can definitely duel {{champion:114}} Riven {{champion:92}} is also really good at fighting By frail, I assume you meant people who have model-esque proportions
wildfox9T (EUW)
: yeah,and junglers complain that their role got "destroyed" (aka they can't 1 vs 9) by jungle xp nerfs and the worst part is that is that your team will even start to blame you with stupid things like "just ward" when the guy is literally coming to poke you under your own tower and putting himself between you and your minions so you can't farm
right??!? *is getting poked/dove constantly by 2 people* "jUsT wArD!!!!!!"
: Armor should be stronger than magic resist... Autoattacks are plentiful, targetted and free, (most) spells have cooldown, mana, and are skill shots... also there's a lot more spells and champions who scale with AD than there is AP.
I think that would originally be fine but nowadays, with mana not being as much of a gating factor, and cdr being more and more plentiful and easier to get, magic damage is a lot easier to pump out
Rylalei (EUNE)
: When and if it happens, you bring the food, I bring the drinks, Zed mains bring the salt.
As a Yasuo main, im offended you didn't ask us to bring the salt
: > [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jTQ0EPsn,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T03:17:44.437+0000) > > There's a large difference between skirmisher and bruiser. > > Bruisers survive extended trades due to raw base stats > That's literally what Yasuo is, silly. He can attack through your thornmail while outhealing you all the while. Jax, Yasuo, Fiora, are all bruisers while being skirmishers alike. > skirmishers survive due to outplaying, hence why there are assassins who are skirmishers (ekko comes to mind). No, they aren't. Assassins are slayers, so are skirmishers. Ekko isn't an assassin and hasn't been in forever. Same with Diana who people misleadingly call an assassin despite her never having been one. These guys are amazing at extended trades and fall in the same category as Riven, Yasuo, and Jax.
Tell me, where exactly is that inherent healing in his kit letting you attack through thorn?? Oh wait, it's nowhere, because he isnt a goddamn bruiser...
: He is a skirnisher. He excels in extended trades. He is a bruiser. What he isn't, is an assassin like you'll prefer calling him.
There's a large difference between skirmisher and bruiser. Bruisers survive extended trades due to raw base stats skirmishers survive due to outplaying, hence why there are assassins who are skirmishers (ekko comes to mind). Not to mention, yasuo was never intended for top lane, in fact, he was intended to be a bot lane melee adc. The only reason people played him top was due to it being easier to farm in, which in the current meta, it is not (for yasuo).
: >keep his windwall on cd by throwing cc at him every 26 secs and run out of mana? Or be susceptible to the enemy ganks?
Lol, if throwing a spell once every 30 seconds makes you una le to manage your mana, then I dunno what to say to you
JetRam (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RGxAOAGV,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:23:32.756+0000) > > All im saying is that he wasn't wrongfully banned. Doesn't mean NB3 ain't a dick, these issues aren't mutually exclusive Still waiting on you to address how the strategy can be considered troll if he is consistently in masters whilst doing it...
> [{quoted}](name=JetRam,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RGxAOAGV,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:28:26.277+0000) > > Still waiting on you to address how the strategy can be considered troll if he is consistently in masters whilst doing it... "Hopefully this doesnt get buried down but its Moe(Yassuo) and i see how easy it is to pile on the NB3 hate here but this is more what the “roaming” teemo support is, its more so trolling teemo support https://www.twitch.tv/videos/437116265?t=08m26s linked a vod of mine from a few days ago, he picks teemo and sits mid and just ruins a game on repeat, has happened to me/nb3/forestwithin and others he basically does jt for attention and spams his twitch link( i have him blocked) but yeah thats my 2 cents" "So couple things from someone who used to duo with Nubrac and now perma dodges him. Side note I don't watch NB3 either ever since he went click bait youtuber. This strat is terrible and he loses more than he wins with it. Even if his mid gets a kill or 2 around level 4/5 they're usually just down levels cause all the exp he's taking. The turret plating being taken bot since it's 1v2 just isn't worth it. If his team mates agreed to it sure no problem, like funneling, but every time the lane he goes to repeatedly tells him to leave and he does not. Multiple people always want to report him. He is not "roaming" support which he claims. He is just sitting in one solo lane all game. There is nothing "roaming" about it. Bot is completely abandoned." Also, literally look him up. 400 games 48% winrate on teemo, while he has near 600 other games playing champs normally at a 55% winrate or so https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Nubrac
: I admit that the teemo probably deserved it; I thought the singed support ages ago deserved it as did the Nunu one. But NB3 is also a scumbag, tbh. He's really toxic and awful and Riot should do more policing of their streamers, especially if they want to be more active with them.
> [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uA0MG51t,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:24:20.333+0000) > > I admit that the teemo probably deserved it; I thought the singed support ages ago deserved it as did the Nunu one. But NB3 is also a scumbag, tbh. He's really toxic and awful and Riot should do more policing of their streamers, especially if they want to be more active with them. I agree, I don't like NB3 for that reason, but people are frothing at the mouth to defend Nubrac and it's honestly pretty frustrating
JetRam (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RGxAOAGV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:11:27.410+0000) > > except it's not really wrongfully, since almost everyone who has played with him said that he's essentially abusing the rules to troll and get attention for his stream. That his strategy isn't working, and that his wins in spite of the strategy, leaving his team generally frustrated, and probably mad they ended up giving this guy a win His strategy isn't working? I guess he got to masters with a troll strategy? Your argument goes against basic logic. Also if you want to talk right and wrong then I guess you're fine with NB3 afking all game to write a support ticket.
> [{quoted}](name=JetRam,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RGxAOAGV,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:17:24.682+0000) > > His strategy isn't working? I guess he got to masters with a troll strategy? Your argument goes against basic logic. Also if you want to talk right and wrong then I guess you're fine with NB3 afking all game to write a support ticket. All im saying is that he wasn't wrongfully banned. Doesn't mean NB3 ain't a dick, these issues aren't mutually exclusive
: Ok, they hate him... and? Why do they hate him? What has your statement proven? That they don't like that he is a supprt that roams? I do not understand why he deserved anything bad. He hasnt broken any rules and has helped his team succeed in multiple games.
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Endeavor,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=uA0MG51t,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:10:25.368+0000) > > Ok, they hate him... and? Why do they hate him? What has your statement proven? That they don't like that he is a supprt that roams? I do not understand why he deserved anything bad. He hasnt broken any rules and has helped his team succeed in multiple games. "Hopefully this doesnt get buried down but its Moe(Yassuo) and i see how easy it is to pile on the NB3 hate here but this is more what the “roaming” teemo support is, its more so trolling teemo support https://www.twitch.tv/videos/437116265?t=08m26s linked a vod of mine from a few days ago, he picks teemo and sits mid and just ruins a game on repeat, has happened to me/nb3/forestwithin and others he basically does jt for attention and spams his twitch link( i have him blocked) but yeah thats my 2 cents". There are others commenting, but he's the most notable one i've found so far
JetRam (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=LordRedStone Nr1,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RGxAOAGV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-14T19:55:25.596+0000) > > Streamers are toxic? Mild shock. This goes beyond toxicity. If you're unaware NB3 just used his popularity as a streamer to get someone wrongfully banned. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/?sort=new
> [{quoted}](name=JetRam,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RGxAOAGV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T19:56:23.884+0000) > > This goes beyond toxicity. If you're unaware NB3 just used his popularity as a streamer to get someone wrongfully banned. > > https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/?sort=new except it's not really wrongfully, since almost everyone who has played with him said that he's essentially abusing the rules to troll and get attention for his stream. That his strategy isn't working, and that his wins in spite of the strategy, leaving his team generally frustrated, and probably mad they ended up giving this guy a win
Rioter Comments
: Nightblue gets a player Falsely banned.
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/c0m449/nightblue3_gets_his_teammate_banned_for_playing/er5u1sb?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 14
Any updates as to the Windwall bug?
Thilmer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yUWqRxQt,comment-id=0001000000010001,timestamp=2019-06-14T18:02:43.852+0000) > > "He absolutely shits on mages that underestimate his early game, and I've seen it happen countless times." > > = > > "People who play incorrectly lose" > > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} And when are you supposed to face him as a mage? He only gets stronger every minute.
assuming you are the same level, pretty much any time except level 3 and 6. early on, you can easily poke him from range, and win trades when he gapcloses due to minion damage being intense. later on, you can farm and poke from range, without much danger... keep his windwall on cd by throwing cc at him every 26 secs, and get some easy ganks in...
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