: Why would anyone accept an explanation which we already know doesn't exist or in best-case scenario is wrong?
An explanation, by definition, can’t be wrong, assuming they’re not lying ofc.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sqkerg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VAjXce86,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-29T04:38:17.927+0000) > > I don't care if he could oneshot people, that doesn't mean he had an 86% winrate. Then you're intentionally being ignorant.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sqkerg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VAjXce86,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-28T17:49:49.449+0000) > > Okay, I get you don’t like him, but don’t just straight up lie. He never had an 86% winrate lol you weren't paying attention then. Look up one of the many galio one-shot montages.
I don't care if he could oneshot people, that doesn't mean he had an 86% winrate.
: Interesting point of view. If you don't mind me asking, could you show me where I said that in my post regarding nunu?
I respect your commitment, but don't even bother dude, hes just looking for something to complain about and he found this line which he can take out of context and twist into something that fits his agenda.
: > [{quoted}](name=ExHentai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VAjXce86,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-28T06:02:37.780+0000) > > They are also willing to sacrifice immediate balance so that horrifically overpowered champions can see even more play. {{champion:3}} -86% Win rate Riot: WORKING AS INTENDED GUYS, HE'S SUPPOSED TO 1 SHOT WITH HIS AOE TORNADO THAT COMES IN FROM 2 SIDES
Okay, I get you don’t like him, but don’t just straight up lie. He never had an 86% winrate
: dam whats taking you so long to get bruiser rune
they wanna get it right
: because vayne doesn't have a knockback to get distance, kog, twitch, a slow, trist a jump, and any other form of cc to kite or do anything else .{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Like you, as a champion with four abilities, don't have something that can negate those.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ok sure but why,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3vNNMl4a,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-18T03:04:27.931+0000) > > Because having almost no armour or health isn't a condition. You're entirely correct: It isn't. Thanks for the clarification!
Bu... but it is... and a very big condition at that.
: Slurp more Riot seed, Kid.
Yes, I must be sucking Riot's dick simply because I am asking for evidence... Jesus Christ what happened to the burden of proof?!?
: My opinion is that the earth is flat and my opinion is also that the majority of people also think it is flat
Congratulations, while your opinions are dis-proven by fact, you are entitled to them nonetheless.
: Do you think its fine Riot has made bruisers shit for 3 years straight? You think it's fine there are 0 keystones for melee bruisers and fighters? You're fine with tanks full comboing you without even a chance to fight back? You think Zoe becoming the next Camille for proplay is fine?
You're being argumentative, and I'm not going to engage with that type of discussion.
: Meddler said in his gameplay thoughts that when the client was polled thousands of people across regions, they STILL want shorter games and think snowballing is an OK state. Yeah, hard to believe but boards is shithole and represents almost none of the community.
Riot is fake news, get with the program /s
: ***
If people play the game, they get an opinion. Period. If a decision affects you, then you are entitled to speak up about said decision.
: Then you wouldn't get people saying people should be fired.
Believe it or not the entire community is not unanimously calling for the balance team's firing, many people, including me, are okay with Riot's decisions.
ThePikol (EUNE)
: There was once -3 AD. I don't expect something so harsh once again
Drop the sarcasm please, also I am well aware of that change, though that was when Vayne as a whole was relatively balanced, and didn't require monumental changes.
ThePikol (EUNE)
: Do we know that nerft will it be? Or another -2 AD?
No, we don't, though that in no way insinuates that it is going to be something like -2 AD.
McFatal (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Abibyama,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5uNxEQIp,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-01-08T11:25:06.816+0000) > > And people wonder why rioter doesn’t bother to read the boards Too busy jacking off adc and tank mains in the corner .
Are you going to pretend to want to have an actual constructive discussion? Or are you just pointlessly shitting on Riot because you're angry?
koshkyra (NA)
: If vayne has stattik shiv and IE, a tumble crit does not do 1/4 of your health. Hell, if vayne has only a statikk shiv, its doing like 1/3 at least.
> Hell, if vayne has only a statikk shiv, its doing like 1/3 at least. At least? Dude I get that this is a circlejerk thread, but please try to live in some semblance of reality.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Sparkle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oTEAdIAv,comment-id=000100030000000100010000,timestamp=2017-12-30T23:13:02.456+0000) > > I'm not advocating for dismissing anything. No, that's EXACTLY what you're advocating.
As an authority on himself, I think he gets the final say on what he is/isn’t advocating for.
: Because the current balance team has effectively locked themselves in a tower, barely play the game, and act like they know best. They don't listen to feedback. They don't play the game.
And these audacious accusations you’re stating as fact are based on what evidence now?
morris1 (EUNE)
: Where did they say this?
: Same idea
That statement is saying that him being weak hurts a lot of people, and making him balanced will help a lot of people, not “he doesn’t need buffs but he’s popular so fuck it”
: Primarily younger people play this game. Mainly young teens... and that also happens to coincide with the people who regularly have the time and/or inclination to visit forums. Young teens (13-15) are not exactly well known for rationality and "level-headed" discourse or behavior. They tend more towards emotional outburst, and hyperbole. They dole out immature behavior because they are in fact immature. While there are no absolutes, and some 15 y/o can be a reasonable person, and some 20 y/o a trolling assclown. There is a plurality of poor behavior out of childish people in this game that can be attributed to teenagers. That is why more of the boards cant be level headed.
Was rhetorical, though I completely agree with your statement.
: > Not buffing him [like you ask] will leave him feeling bad for** a lot of people**. Same idea
: Everyone gets a little to passionate every now and then, but I think this is the best approach to discuss balance, so that both rioters and players can be comfortable discussing it with transparency. Rioters can discuss context of changes, without being susceptible to mindless outrage, and players can freely say "I think X champion is overpowered" without fearing that people will say "You only think that cause you play Y" and vice versa.
Holy crap why isn’t more of the boards this level-headed?!?
Thilmer (EUW)
: This is why I simply permaban him when I play a mage.
Hibeki (NA)
: Kassadin is specifically made to do well against AP and lack power against everyone else. Also, unlike yasuo, his mobility has a resource which increases DRASTICALLY the more he uses it (up to 800 mana for one jump) Yas? Spam freely.
"freely", as in extremely conditional fixed location dash...
DarkRooster (EUNE)
: Either way statistics as a topic is taken in middle school and the first guy shouldn't be spreading false statements.
And what exactly about his information is false?
: Because Xerath isn't in the magic list of favored Riot champions.
If by “magic”, you mean it doesn’t exist, then you’re right.
Akaviri (NA)
: Proof?
Dear god, he said the forbidden word...
Knalxz (NA)
: Tell this to EA, you don't get to cherry pick pal.
Yeah, I actually do. The difference is the substance of the complaints. While EA’s complaints are about the overall handling of the game, specifically locking the game behind 2.2k dollars. League’s complaints are useually not about such gross problems. (I can also assure you that EA gets stupid complaints too.)
Jbels (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Corsair Sion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T5sZj9Ho,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-11-29T22:29:56.161+0000) > > oh my god this is so stupid lmao Couldn't agree more. Yeah, Riot has done some good things. But I'm not about to forget all of the shitty things they've done. Complaints are made for a reason, not just for the sake of complaining.
> [{quoted}](name=Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T5sZj9Ho,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-11-29T22:43:48.695+0000) >Complaints are made for a reason, not just for the sake of complaining. You'd be surprised...
: > [{quoted}](name=Maple Nectar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PXqgGQss,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2017-11-15T20:08:48.065+0000) > > I talked about it before on the boards - but we have some tuning to turrets going out in 7.23 that we were looking at for awhile. It's not going to be anything drastic, but they'll be slightly tankier next patch. Slightly? Dude everyone complains about turrets why are they not buffed up the ass? The games are 10 minutes because you can 100-0 them with no minions.
Okay, I get that you're trying to make a point, but putting such obvious exaggerations such as "the game ending at 10 minutes" and people "100-0ing turrets w/ no minions" really just throws your credibility out the window.
: Having honor lvl 5 doesn't mean anythink at all, only that you were lucky enough to not get punished yet. People with honor lvl 0 are usually less toxic, than people with honor lvl 5, becouse they know, how it is, to get punished.
It means that you weren’t reported and where honored quite a bit by your team, that in itself is a feat to be proud of.
: I've met people with Level 5 Honor who are more toxic than the dishonorable people you talk about. This system is flawed, and just because you think you are Honor 3+ doesn't mean you're better than them, you're just arrogant because of that flashy Honor badge? well bad news, you're just acting like them with this post.
People are allowed to be proud of their accomplishments ya know.
: There's two possible outcomes: he was lying or misinformed It's not an accusation, there's nothing else it can be
: > [{quoted}](name=SeaChange,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6RmsPhr8,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-01T22:25:25.510+0000) > > They did say that the harrowing is coming back, but just not during halloween. I think what they want is for players to know that the harrowing is threat ALL year. I hope that this means we get a christmas harrowing or something! Are you sure? They already put all of the halloween legacy bundles in the store and released the 3 new legacy skins, and enabled doom bots
They said they’re still doing harrowing events, just that it’s not always going to be around Halloween.
Synnx7 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Seto Kaìba,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6RmsPhr8,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-01T22:00:39.183+0000) > > No halloween summoners rift, no new game mode, no mention of halloween virtually anywhere on the client. > > Yeah, we got doom bots and those deathsworn missions but it didn't really feel as halloween-themed as every other season. We didn't even get a login screen this year. > > idk I guess it just feels like it was sort of swept under the rug because of worlds this time around Riot: " We smoke a lot of crap and so, in our world of RUNETTERA , Halloween can happen anytime of the year so... enjoy our WORLDS because halloween aint gonna interfere with our precious Worlds garbage. - 2015 They'll make halloween eventually, somewhere between november close to december. Theyre gonna actually do this when the halloween world-wide is already OVER. I can't grasp their logic. Oh, and if it will eventually happen , you'll get at best a shitty icon/ward skin and 5 random skins with % price off. Thats their halloween. They even RENAMED IT to Harrowing or w/e the fuck is called. Just to fool us even more and believe their laws on the high planet they live/work from, Runeterra Piss off riot with your Worlds and everything. I played HoTs untill now and the game is epic, and also their halloween was freaking legendary. So stick with ur precious World$ riot. Hope everyone from this game will realize you're a shitty company and leave to other games, leaving u alone, just with ur World$ / LC$ , which are boring AF anyways due to your atrociously bad game balance Players that raised their game > E$port$/LC$/World$ . #fact
This seems completely neutral and unbiased...
: > [{quoted}](name=ShadowParker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=abZrqEHd,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-26T19:02:01.312+0000) > > The fact that one of the posts at the top of the boards is that riot's balancing team needs to be changed is just sad. > > Did they overbuff Galio? Yes. They've also given their thoughts on why they went through with it and to be honest, I can understand their mentality. > > I *HATE* that despite how many wins the balance team achieves, they're still told they're shit at their job. > > The balance team is great, and has done a fantastic job of trying to balance this game and flesh it out. > > And before someone whips out the ardent censor fiasco, ardent censor was buffed in 7.2 and wasn't changed for a long time before it became "op". > > To everyone reading this thread that disagrees, grow up already. If you want change, you don't bitch and whine. You have a goddamn civil conversation with actual reasoning. The game is a mess. So no. Downvoted your post and moving on.
“Have a civil discussion” “No eat shit”
xelaker (NA)
: except the people in every other department of riot are involved in the community and take the hits like adults...
No one tells them they should be fired...
Xonra (NA)
: But people were clamoring for them Irelia changes. Didn't you see ALL those comments asking for Irelia reworks? Riot seems to think they did. I mean I don't know that I've seen more than one in 4 years but...Riot saw them.
Right, because if the boards/reddit (less than 5% of the playerbase) doesn't make a front page post, then obviously no one wants Irelia reworks right?
: Doing job = hard
It’s not that simple and you know it. I wish people would stop pretending like it just takes a couple of seconds to solve all the world’s problems.
: > [{quoted}](name=Spank the Fox,realm=OCE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=QGGM8NkO,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-10-18T03:22:17.252+0000) > > Is the drought almost over? > > Is the era of butts and boobs returning? no. these days the pc police and feminazis will attack riot if that happens.
That’s never been a problem before...
: This is all the evidence I need. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/KEZhW3xB-deathcap-needs-a-buff?comment=0003 6 upvotes, 35 downvotes > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KEZhW3xB,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-08-27T15:19:43.917+0000) > > Nerf Morello and Lost Chapter then to compensate for any buffs to AP itemization. I told you, I wasn't lying.
Well for the record I agree with your comment. Mages are not in such a spot that they need flat buffs, or flat buffs to their items. All they need, and all this post is highlighting, is their abysmal choices when it comes to WHAT items they can pick.
: Mages ask to buff things then get mad at the buff. Mages literally do anything to say they are weak wen they arent I know half of the ppl who say this aren't even on the pbe. Have they played Xerath, annie, ahri, any mage on the pbe? I doubt it cuz they can't say anything after playing them. Literally everything with the new runes is op as shit man. Have you played ekko with dark harvest? Have you tried using the new void staff? Anything ppl dont play the pbe then complain its so pathetic.
Except we're not complaining that mages are weak, or this thread isn't at least. We're saying that the already poor build diversity is going to be even more solidified with one of the few already good mage items getting buffed even more.
: What games are you playing?
Mostly hearthstone, but also some dark souls.
: Fired from a position is different is than being fired from a Company, essentially I am referring to if he was removed from his current position in the company. The meaning of my words has been misinterpreted by several people, as my sophomore math teacher once said: Never assume anything because it makes an Ass of U and Me.
Being fired is almost never used in that context. If that was your intent (and I'm not sure it was) then you did not choose a good word.
: Literally any of my comments that say nerf morello and buff just about everything else. +3 upvotes, -13 downvotes. Gee, I wonder.
I'd like to see such comments... there is likely more to the story than that.
: Theres literally a hot topic on boards right now wanting mage buffs due to the removal of runes... But ok/
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