Arakadia (NA)
: That is indeed insane, but I doubt most unpopular skin sales are _that bad_. Stelari is most likely not lying when she says there is a huge difference between popular and unpopular skins, but this is not a good representation for that difference. And I will continue to partially blame Riot for champions being very unpopular. Of course your going to barely make any money off a skin like Mecha Sol when the skin is poorly done, poorly picked, for a champion that is very hard to pick up, and also completely neglected by Riot.
Also, there might be an inverse relationship. The more skins and attention you give a champion the more popular they become.
: Popular Champions Getting Skins: They aren't Riot's favorites.
I agree that skins reflect what is popular in the player base, after all Riot is a company, but perhaps there's also a self fulfilling prophecy as well. The more Riot focuses on a champion, be it through lore, gameplay or skins, the more popular that champion will and the more inclined they will be to focus on that champion.
: Comixology has panel view and better zoom tech we don’t have. (As does Marvel’s reader i believe). Its a better experiance on those readers— than universe imho.
Quick question, how did the sales on the first issue do in comparison to expectations?
Terozu (NA)
: Why do people want to 'discuss' Neekos Sexuality?
I mean, the fact that people are discussing it means it matters to some people.
: That's basically what I was thinking right now. Atm every new (humanoid) champion is heterosexual by default. If Riot wants to introduce a homosexual character they have to slowly build that into the character instead of slapping an "Oh btw, he/she is gay/lesbian." onto it at the end. I couldn't care less about what sex a champion is attracted to if the character is written well. But background stories that toss homosexuality into the mix just for the sake of it grind my gears. Either do it properly or don't do it at all. I think most people can get behind this thought tbh.
What does “tossing homosexuality into the mix just for the sake of it” even mean? Does there have to be a “reason” for a character to be gay? For instance, if Senna was a man would you consider Lycuab to be a forced gay character?
: Riot Games and Marvel work together on a Comic Serie - League of Legends: Ashe: Warmother
I'm so happy about this. I've been wanting Riot to focus on the League IP as it's own product separate from the game. I believe the IP itself has SO much potential.
: Pretty much this. Making a longer book or story would require significant investment from Riot which would be thrust on us and I'm not paying for a League book. The stories are just meant to promote the game Riot isn't going to branch out into media for it's own sake. They only use stories, cinematics and comics to promote investment in the game which is where the actual money comes from. I wouldn't be buying Leonas' new skin if I wasn't invested in her character. That's the point.
If Riot views storytelling solely as promotion, they’re being extremely short sighted. League of Legends as intellectual property is more valuable than the game itself in my opinion. League of Legends the game generates a lot of revenue but doesn’t have much growth potential. Furthermore, it’s their only revenue source which isn’t a good business strategy, especially when there are so many opportunities to diversify right under your nose. Not diversifying into other media would be a huge squandered opportunity for Riot. They should maintain their current cash cow while investing in other opportunities such as comics, tv series and and eventually movies.
: My face when a rioter actually takes time out of their day to answer my questions. https://78.media.tumblr.com/d533707d6076eacbd985effeadbab3b6/tumblr_p423xhHKvu1wjwuvdo1_540.gif
: Semi-serious question regarding the Solari
Maybe they view it as a sign of humility: that no mere mortal can stand the full glory and power of the sun.
: Finished story of League
That's like asking "will we ever get the finished story of DC comics". Runeterra is a planet with it's own long and complicated history. There's no one cohesive "story of league" just like there's no one cohesive story of DC or Marvel. Leauge of Legends is a franchise/intellectual property with multiple characters that have their owns stories.
: Dont hate me but I kinda wanna down vote you here for GP XD
: I really like what Riot has done to new Akali's face
I mentioned this in the Reddit thread with the splash-art leak and got downvoted lol
: The fall of Shurima happened centuries ago. > Centuries passed, and Nasus all but forgot his old life and former purpose, until the moment when the now buried Tomb of the Emperors was rediscovered, and its seal broken. In that moment, he knew Xerath was free. But Zoe is way older than that. > Returning home after millennia, Zoe has aged barely a year. Edit: Some sources say the fall of Shurima was millennia ago as well, so that doesn't hold as an argument anymore. But the description of Myisha fits Zoe perfectly, even describing the key she likes to carry around. It's been stated that the key is something Zoe picked up somewhere, not something that comes with being the Aspect of Twilight.
The description doesn't fit Zoe perfectly. She's similar to Zoe, but for one, Zoe doesn't have gold-blonde hair. Secondly her personality is starkly contrast to Zoe's. Well they share a mischievous nature, Zoe is bubbly and rambunctious where as Myisha is more reserved. Lastly, there's no mention in her lore of the key being something that Zoe picked up, if so I'd like to see proof.
: > Her frame was slight, fragile even, yet Ta’anari sensed she possessed depths not even he had fully grasped. Gold-blonde hair, like the men found in the cold north, spilled around her shoulders. Her features were youthful, but her eyes, one rich blue, the other twilight’s purple, held wisdom beyond her years. She wore thin silks, colorful and entirely unsuited to the desert, tied at the waist with a thin rope, from which hung a single golden key. A vivid pink scarf coiled around her neck, and she twisted its tasseled ends through her fingertips. That's definitely Zoe.
It's not Zoe. It's a previous incarnation of the Aspect of Twilight.
: > [{quoted}](name=FeeNeeX,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=dFtExR93,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-06-18T12:55:52.875+0000) > > I like how you love spreading suffering to people > But no actually this is the FORTH time am posting this > {{champion:202}}: UNTIL THEY STOP ME I WILL KEEP GOING > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} I never implied that I loved to make people suffer. But I will imply that spamming the boards with "Diana this" and "Diana that" makes me suffer. Especially when you are clearly breaking the rules.
This is the correct board "Concepts and Creations". People were mad at the other post because it was in the wrong board. Who cares someone posts as long as it's in the right board.
: > [{quoted}](name=Arammus,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=i7lbRoy8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-20T12:49:09.471+0000) > > but you cant use it anymore :( Then why do we name people Joseph? I mean, Stalin killed waaay more people than Hitler.
Because Joseph is a very common name before and after Stalin. When you say Joseph, I don't immediately think Stalin. The first Joseph that pops into mind in Joseph from the the Bible.
: Community Collab Comics Collection
This is cool and all, but I want more canon comics.
: > [{quoted}](name=Star Guardían,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Xa6u3IvE,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-04T05:20:03.832+0000) > > I never said a few mess ups is a good thing. I'm saying more lore is good for the IP in the long run. There are lots of discussions to be had about the lore itself (which does occur on the Story, Art and Sound boards). However, the purpose of this post is to have a meta discussion on lore in regards to IP development. Right now, their lore updates are creating a convoluted mess that ultimately serves to weaken the IP. It does not help that some of those updates create huge inconsistencies that end up destroying characters and locales. Varus, Kassadin, Kai'Sa and the Void have all had their concepts butchered in their recent updates. More lore isn't going to help them until they fix the current problems and they still need to avoid creating new ones with future updates.
Let me rephrase what I met. I know more lore isn't going to fix current issues with the lore, but what I'm saying is that Riot should direct more resources towards lore. Once again, I'm not here to address the specific issues with the lore, that's another discussion for another time. The larger issue I'm trying to discuss here is the value of a rich lore in an intellectual property and the need to allocate resources towards creating systems that can properly and regularly deliver quality narrative content.
: > [{quoted}](name=Star Guardían,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Xa6u3IvE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-06-04T04:04:23.585+0000) > > Mess ups? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Star Guardían,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Xa6u3IvE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-06-04T04:04:23.585+0000) > > A few mess ups in a short period of time is not a good thing. Especially when the Runeterra Universe has already been deemed as separate from the In-Game universe.
I never said a few mess ups is a good thing. I'm saying more lore is good for the IP in the long run. There are lots of discussions to be had about the lore itself (which does occur on the Story, Art and Sound boards). However, the purpose of this post is to have a meta discussion on lore in regards to IP development.
: I disagree with the idea that Riot's recent lore efforts were good. The Varus update was an absolute mess. The Kai'Sa story was contradictory, Mary Sue bullshit. Pyke's Kit doesn't fully support his story, and his story is very weak as a purpose for being who he is. I can go into details on each of these and why they're poor stories. I legitimately hate how the stories for Varus and Kai'Sa were defended and I know Riot could do much better than they have been.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Scathlocke,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OBv14cTB,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-06-01T20:23:10.752+0000) > > The only lore that Narrative folks are _guaranteed_ to work on, is the stuff that surrounds each new champion or VGU - so the game v/o, bios, and a color story. > > For literally everything else, we have to convince someone, somewhere (depending on what it is!) that it will be of benefit to Riot, by enriching and deepening the player experience. There is a genuine belief among some non-Narrative Rioters that players are not interested in lore or stories beyond the basic game of League... although that is slowly changing now. Comics. Audio. Interactive content. Artwork that isn't just champion splashes. All that good stuff has shown a genuine desire, globally, for more Runeterra outside of the game. > > The regular faction updates have given us a platform to tell more stories, on an almost monthly cadence, and now in different media like audio too. Artwork captions and region descriptor updates are also part of this new effort, where appropriate. > > If you guys want more, and more often, please tell Riot that. Because the people who make the decisions can't always just count on me or Thermal Kitten pleading and citing boards/Reddit/Twitter conversations, as proof... > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} That's insane! The Narrative is a core part of ANY game with a fictional background. I personally love the work you guys do, and every time there's a new story released it's always read. The fact you have to "argue a case" with riot when you do such a good job of enhancing the immersive attributes of the game, while the balancing team get free reign to destroy 80% of the champion pool because they didn't learn from their predecessors mistakes, is just stupid. Imo you guys and the graphics team are the only ones at riot who can say they consistently do a good job! Everyone else is just winging it :S
I wouldn't say the balance team is the problem with Riot either. I can guarantee you that play testers and designers are talented people. Riot issue is their middle and upper management and toxic corporate culture.
MeilinII (NA)
: Logged in just to say that as someone CONSTANTLY fighting my employer about what the customers ACTUALLY want as opposed to what corporate thinks they should want, my heart is breaking for you. Serious question, what address do I flood with heartfelt letters pleading for lore for my poor, neglected children? {{champion:267}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:143}}
After seeing Scathlocke's post yesterday, I did some digging on Riot and it seems like there's a HUGE divide at Riot right now between the middle/upper management and the actual creators. It seems like the whole corporate culture is kind of toxic/unproductive.
: > [{quoted}](name=GinoSoldier,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OBv14cTB,comment-id=000100010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-02T16:02:22.656+0000) > > To be honest; i was really, *really* dismayed to learn that the narrative team had been sitting on some amazing lore stories and bios waiting for a 'perfect opportunity' to release them, sometimes for extended periods of time. > > If, for instance, you have Sona lore right now in your stacks ready for publishing that *can be* published without screwing over an event or spoiling a bunch of other stuff, i think i would be in my right to be mad at the team for not releasing them after all this time she has had *nothing*. > > We want more lore, moreso than we want more events to go with them. A little clarification here: Narrative is not a team. We are a discipline (we have meetings together, learn from each other, drink together, give each other feedback), but we are all embedded on different product teams (i.e. Champions, Skins, Worldbuilding). We aren't sitting on a pile of lore and stories and deliberately not shipping them until a certain date. We do ideate, brainstorm, and then write toward a goal. Ship dates are filled with more moving pieces than just words. The product teams have a shipping cadence, Narrative writers support whatever that shipping cadence is for their teams. We do not have one on our own for a myriad of reasons, some of which Scathelocke touched upon. We would all love this to be different. I would LOVE to make the Sona animation I wrote 2 years ago, ship the story sketches that informed character creation, etc... but sadly that probably won't happen due to the reality of budgets, production cycles, resources, product needs, and other elements of creating and maintaining a game like League, the most successful windows are around releases of content. Additionally, just because a write is passionate about a character/champ/story, does not always mean we could or should be able to tell that story. Sometimes it justifies the product, but even in the entertainment industry at large, having a good story does not always mean it's going to get told. Narrative in games has always been a hot topic and sometimes highly controversial one. Does story matter in a game like League? I think it does. I think a lot of people agree. Narrative in Riot is trending toward a much better and healthier place, but there's still more work to be done. We have lots of stories we want to tell.
> Does story matter in a game like League? I think it does. I think a lot of people agree I think LoL as an IP can be so much more than a game. I think the stories that come out of this IP can be a product on its own, I wish Riot felt the same way.
JCPANDIT (OCE)
: Which region would you love to see more of?
You didn't include Targon in your poll.
: @riot yes I love lore
I also tweeted @RiotGames, @LeagueofLegends, @RiotSupport on Twitter. Maybe I should also Tweet Brandon Beck and Marc Merrill. Edit: I just sent a ticket to Riot Support. Edit2: Just tweeted Brandon and Marc.
: Oh a weekly magazine with stories from Runeterra spread over different genres? Oh I even take a monthly magazine for that... longer chapters, and more chance to get full-color done. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} You could make a crime story in Piltover/Zaun. A political thriller somewhere in the Noxian Empire (where the term "cutthroat politics" is taken very literally at times). A survival man vs. nature story in Freljord. A story featuring Ezreal that should go into an Indiana Jones/archeology-adventure direction. Horror stories based on the grim tales of Bilgewater sailors. A romance story set in Demacia that is a tragic overly complicated affair with 5 different royal houses involved, and it involves both participants crossdressing to meet each other without their families noticing, which also leads to some people crushing onto them in their "disguised form"... There is literally no genre, no matter HOW weird, that Riot could not pull off with the world that they have. The best way would be a regular magazine published online with print being shipped out if you pre-order it, collection-books being sold once a year, and the very best stories will be turned into animated series, or the series will use these as a starting point.
> collection-books being sold once a year I think another good way to turn a profit on it and incentivize players to read would be to makes skins that are only unlock able through buying the magazine. For instance, make just the basic magazine with all the comics and stories free (let's be real few people would be incentivized to buy it). But have a collector's edition that has cool in game things (skins, icons etc.) that can only be unlocked only through purchasing the collector's edition magazine. People have spent literally hundreds of dollars to unlock hextech skins so I think if they made skins unlockable through the magazine (which isn't RNG based like hex tech) a lot of people would be introduced to the lore that way.
: Yupp, just get them some solid animators, make a deal with Netflix, and I assure you after some years LoL will be reduced to a footnote in media history as "the insipration for the Riot Cinematic Universe" or whatever you want to call it. THAT is how much potential I see in this all as opposed to the game itself.
I feel the same way. I think the best medium Riot should be investing heavily in right now is comic books. I like all the other stuff (short stories, short animations, audio dramas etc.) and they should continue to do those, but I think in the short term comic books can do a lot with (relatively) little resources and time while they aim for greater things in the future (more animations, movies, tv series, novels etc.) I would like Riot to be publishing several comic series on a weekly basis kind of like Shonen Jump. I think this is very do-able for a company their size. However, from Riot management's perspective, they are game developers and their product is the game, the lore is just an accessory. This is a very shortsighted perspective that underestimates the value of their IP.
: Have you ever read the lore of a game that you were not playing? People keep telling me about the complxities of the WoW backstory, yet since I never played a single title set in the Warcraft universe, and more importantly, since I am not currently playing one, I couldn't give less of a shit. Sadly this lore here is not a product independent from the game like a book series or something. It is tied to another product for publication, and once that falls off, as it is right now, it has no way to stand on its own to gain any sort of traction with the wide audience. Your works can be the greatest marvels of the universe - if no one knows they are there and not a single person is even trying to look for it, it might as well as if they would not exist. Inexistence means also less profits, which means you can't pay the professionals making said content, and they have bills to pay and mouths to feed as well, which results in them changing their work to other stuff that gets them paid, and the original product vanishing in obscurity - something I desperatly hope will not happen to League lore...
> Sadly this lore here is not a product independent from the game like a book series or something. It is tied to another product for publication, and once that falls off, as it is right now, it has no way to stand on its own to gain any sort of traction with the wide audience. I think it would be in Riot's best interest if they started treating the lore as it's own product. I think the intellectual property has the potential to surpass the game itself but Riot's management is hardly even doing the bare minimum to fulfill the potential.
: To be clear, when I say "of benefit to Riot" - I mean through Narrative writers and editors devoting their working hours on it, or spending money from a budget, to create additional value for players. The mission is always to make the player's experience the best it can possibly be, so the question we face is always "Could this money/time be better spent on something else, that will deliver a better experience for players?" So, for everyone who wants more/longer/more frequent lore and story content, you need to make Riot aware of that... both by telling them outside of the boards, and also by engaging with the content and sending your friends everything you think they'd like!
Which people/departments in particular do we need to be telling this?
: Please give Riot that feedback directly :-)
How? Aren't you Riot? To whom should we give feedback to?
: > A parallel timeline is just a different way of saying "what-if". You miss the point. The important part is NOT saying "parallel timeline" instead of "what if". The important part is presenting all timelines as equal, and not a main one with minor variations on the side.
Oh ok, thanks for clarifying. I still think this has it's issues though mainly because I think there needs to be a main canon timeline. If every timeline is equally important, things will seem less grounded and impactful. That's not to say that the parallel timelines can't be really fleshed out. I'm not a comic reader, so this analogy may not be appropriate, but Marvel for instance has it's main timeline, Earth-616 as well as many other really fleshed out timelines like Earth-199999 (MCU) and Earth-1610 (Ultimate Universe). Having said that Earth-616 is still clearly the main universe and more "important" than the other universe.
: 1) Comics books pull it off all the time, and people manage to follow despite the confusion. 2) I kinda agree, if you present it in a "main lore VS what if" manner as OP suggested. But you could just present it as parallel timelines, without one being deemed superior to the others. 3) Yeah, I'm not sure either. I think killing a champ in-lore and still being playable in-game is not such a big issue.
> Comics books pull it off all the time, and people manage to follow despite the confusion. Comic continuity is confusing as hell. A very small and dedicated demographic of people care to follow them. In terms of managing continuity, I don't think Riot should try to emulate comics. > But you could just present it as parallel timelines, without one being deemed superior to the others. A parallel timeline is just a different way of saying "what-if". There needs to be a main continuity. Making all the parallel timelines be equally important/canon leads back to the issue of the lore feeling pointless.
: I suppose I can see where you're coming from on the first to points. However, let's be honest here: do you really think Riot is ever going to kill of a character in-canon? Will we ever see a point in which Sion is permanently put to rest, or in which the Void is truly stopped? Not likely, given that this would mean Sion is now dead for good and every Voidborn champ (plus Malzahar) is probably gone. Nobody wants their favorite champion to be killed off, so Riot is currently stuck in a position where they can't kill anyone off without upsetting the playerbase. This is the primary issue I was trying to address. I realize my solution isn't perfect, as the alternate timeline stories COULD get confusing, as you said. It was just one idea I had to give closure to some stories that, let's be honest, will never likely receive full closure.
> do you really think Riot is ever going to kill of a character in-canon? Yes. What's the alternative, have every character live on for eternity? I mean even the universe dies eventually.
: How does this fit into "Story, art & sound"?
Somewhat related to the skin, but maybe you're right. Maybe it's more suitable in the general discussion board. But I welcome Diana anywhere I can.
: Because constantly bringing up differences doesn't allow anyone to forget that there are differences and just move on?
The icon is just a small gesture showing support for a community that has been historically marginalized and still faces discrimination to a lesser extent today. Also trying to forget differences and be "color blind" doesn't help us move on. It just pushes issues under so we forget them an don't address them. Accepting differences is how we move on.
: Riot said they would make one only if the lore required them to be LGBT. They won't make a champ LGBT just to say they are. The only group able to decide if the champ is LGBT or not is the lore team.
> They won't make a champ LGBT just to say they are. Why not? Can't a champion just be gay? Does Varus' lore require Kai to be gay? No, he just is. Likewise, do Lucian, Ekko and Pyke's lore require them to be black?
: Varus was a disaster of abhorrent decision-making that gave legions of homophobes a lore-based reason to scream in protest about someone being gay; Leona and Diana have never been confirmed (love it when all we get is hinting); Taric started out as a character built around a gay joke with effeminacy as the punchline, and after his rework his orientation has been intentionally and knowingly side-stepped by Riot; and where has Star Guardian Jinx's sexuality been discussed? I may have missed that. And even assuming *all* of those are an example of good representation, which they are not — that's three characters and a skin, in a sea of how many?
> Taric started out as a character built around a gay joke with effeminacy as the punchline This is the reason why I don't want Taric to be gay or Taric/Ez to be a thing because it started out as a casually homophobic inside joke in the LoL community. But to be fair, it's probably evolved over time that some people genuinely ship Taric/Ez at this point. Another ship that I think has hints is Caitlyn/Vi. I mean, Riot August tongue-in-cheekly asked "Are Cait and Vi an item?" on a Riot Piltover AMA on Reddit. As for Varus I totally agree with you. It was one of the worst possible ways they could've gone about making their first canonly gay champion. I think it should've been either Leona/Diana or Vi/Caitlyn.
: > [{quoted}](name=FauxSchizzle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=gl5Aew7J,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2018-05-17T14:24:04.631+0000) > > Yes there is. There are clues in his bio, his VO, and his color text. I can't find them :(, if u have the time can u explain that to me?
They haven't been released yet, I think. Not sure though.
: > [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AJcIJZ0Z,comment-id=000100000004,timestamp=2018-05-17T16:45:32.002+0000) > > So let me understand this - Pyke has crossed paths with {{champion:22}}, who lives on a completely different continent, who pretty much stays there trying to unify the people on that continent, yet he hasn't crossed paths with {{champion:111}} or even {{champion:223}}, who both haunt the back allies and waters of Bilgewater? > > Even if he HASN'T met {{champion:111}} or {{champion:223}}, their sheer proximity and the fact that there would be legends and tales about the demon catfish who grants wishes and a fellow drowned seaman who pulls ships under would be enough for Pyke to have at the very least heard of them and have lines for them should he ever encounter them. This statement that he hasn't crossed paths with Nautilus makes little sense when Pyke has lines for Ashe. Pyke recognizes Ashe as a leader. Not by reputation. He's defining the word for himself and now it relates to his motives.
Just to clarify, VOs aren't necessarily always canon, correct? They are sometimes "what if" representations of what a champ would say if they encountered another champ that they haven't or may never encounter.
: Pentakill III album?
I want Riot to create skin lines and albums from other genres. I'm particularly interested in a disco themed skin line. I think Armor of the Fifth Age should be turned into a disco band, [Taric's](https://static.lolwallpapers.net/2016/04/5704c534e1952.jpg) outfit looks so Disco, just turn his mace into a bass guitar. If you think I'm kidding that Armor of the Fifth Age Taric looks like he's part of a disco band, take a look a these examples. [Earth, Wind and Fire](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4b/f5/51/4bf55115f0e8192ee16de5fdf4bc6e2e--earth-wind-the-band.jpg) [KC and The Sunshine Band](https://mholloway63.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/kc-and-the-sunshine-band-1973.jpg) [Tavares](https://images1.miaminewtimes.com/imager/tavares-talks-disco-and-heaven-must-be-mi/u/original/6441371/tavares_disco_interview_miami_2014.jpg)
QMighty (NA)
: Petition to change Darius's title to "the Angry Yelling Axe Man"
They should totally do this in like a comic or something where Draven is getting on Darius' nerve whilst on a mission. I can see Draven saying "Whatever you say, angry yelling axe man." as he reluctantly and nonchalantly complies to Darius' directions. {{sticker:darius-angry}}
: > [{quoted}](name=KZ Engel,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=H68LymtE,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:30:59.167+0000) > > that would've been like naming darius "darius, the angry yelling axe man" I thought {{champion:14}} was the angry yelling axe guy Cooooooowaaaaaards
Nah, he goes by Angry Yelling **Dead** Axe Man.
: I could see Kindred working as a transformation champ.
Same. In fact, when Kindred was being teased, I was hyped that we'd get another transforming champion since we hadn't had one since Quinn or Jayce (If you don't count Quinn/Valor). All the Kindred teasers were hinting at a duality so I really thought it'd be and R transformation champ like Mid or Jayce. I can understand Riot wanting to try something new and to be fair they did end up successfully creating a new way to express a duality in a champion with Kayn/Rhaast. However, as it stands, Wolf doesn't have autonomy. He's like a particle effect with a bit of a personality. He's like a fancier version of Lulu's pix or SG Ahri's Kiko. In fact, he's seems like less of an individual character than Tibbers or Willump (Maybe even Skarl) imo.
: > [{quoted}](name=KZ Engel,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=H68LymtE,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-05-15T21:30:59.167+0000) > > that would've been like naming darius "darius, the angry yelling axe man" I think it sounded like the title of a fairytale. I have been known to be wrong.
It does sound like a fairytale title which would be good for a short story title, but it doesn't work for a champion title imo. I'm glad you went with the Eternal Hunters.
QMighty (NA)
: holy crap I can't believe Aatrox is 5 years old already. Now I feel old...
Same here man. I every champ after Elise (which is when I started playing) feels "new" to me. For instance, I forget that Azir and Gnar were released before the new Summoner's Rift even though they still feel "modern" to me.
: Nah Project Diana https://i.imgur.com/0M04U6V.jpg I want that more
I want that too, it'd would go well with Project Leona. Put if I'd have to choose between the two I'd go Star Guardian.
: Diana is the kind of Champion...
Next I need a Star Guardian Diana {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Qixoss (NA)
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I bet you wear clothes with multiple fabrics you fucking sinner!
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