: can you still get placed gold/plat with fresh 30 when s9 hits
: To people who automatically invite you to queue then just remove you for no reason.
AIcohoI (NA)
: The state of Neeko
Neeko is already balanced.
: > [{quoted}](name=taleofsonata,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vXuoAgwM,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-12-24T20:43:12.647+0000) > > Lux has slow bind, shields, Annie has stuns, leblanc has root, ETC. And none of those compare to an amumu ultimate that is likely to one shot your entire team. Syndra is a well designed burst mage in that regard.
Neeko ult is in no way comparable to an amumu ult.
Niko31789 (EUW)
: Neeko R+Zhonya
Neeko can only Zhonya, Flash etc during the first 1.25s of her ult. If she Zhonyas during the first 1.25s then you exit her ult radius and take no damage.
: > [{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-21T12:25:26.314+0000) > > DO you even know what scaling is? > > Morgana has higher base damage and higher Ap scaling on all her abilities than Neeko. > > Neeko needs rank 3 ulti in order to have 1 ability with higher base than morgana and it still has lower ap scaling. > > Absolutely nothing is wrong with neeko, and you are complaining for the sake of it. Nothing more. Clearly I was correct. They reduced the damage on Neeko's Q for obvious reasons.
Poske (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VqA9pUTF,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-21T23:41:00.877+0000) > > Her Q was the problematic part of her kit. not her easily avoided ult. Picks Neeko R > Flashes. Nukes entire enemy team wins a game R flash needs to go R shouldnt work with zhonya (nunu r doesnt afterall) dmg needs to drop
Have you ever played neeko? Zhonyas only works during her ult channel ( 1.25 seconds ) it cannot be used anytime after that. If zhonyas is used during the channel, then that just means you can avoid her ult even more easily now right? Again she can only flash during the channel. It sounds like you guys never played neeko at all.
Dr Dog (NA)
: flash+ zhonyas, come again?
you do know she can only use Zhonyas during the channel ( 1.25s ) of her ult? She cannot use it while she jumps into the air. So she either zhonyas during channel, or after the ult itself. She can't do both. If she zhonyas during channel, you can clearly see what she's doing and walk away.
: > [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VqA9pUTF,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-22T03:39:15.340+0000) > > Or the fact it's one of the harder ults to hit. > > If you can't pop Neeko out of a Disguise by the time she reaches your team, YOU DESERVE TO BE ULTED. Its fine to be ulted, but not by an AOE 1500 damage stun.
It's also fine to build no MR and complain about damage.
: > [{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VqA9pUTF,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-21T23:41:00.877+0000) > > Her Q was the problematic part of her kit. not her easily avoided ult. For the majority of mid lane mages, it is not easily avoidable. They lack on demand dashes outside of the one off flash, and are slowed during it's so called channel
The majority of mid lane mages are not going to let you walk into them and land a free ult. Disguised or not, it doesn't matter. If you allow any champion to walk into your for free in order to land a key ability, then you will die. Her W is only a 0.5s stealth, so she cannot use it to hide her channel either, Also everyone has a way to easily break her disguise as she walks towards you.
: Not even {{champion:161}} or {{champion:245}} ults have that crazy of a scaling. The only I can think of that has more is {{champion:142}} Q
Morgana R has higher base ( until rank 3 ) and higher scaling.
: So when did an ult that cannot be seen charging up when the champion is in disguise become easily avoidable?
The only way to not see a neeko ult, is if you close your eyes while you play.
Dr Dog (NA)
: so they're nerfing neekos q but not her ult?
Her Q was the problematic part of her kit. not her easily avoided ult.
: Can't kill her before it completes because she can use {{item:3157}} during her ult to become untargetable
Neeko using Zhonyas during ult only works during the channel. And if she is using Zhonyas during the channel, you dove onto her. Either way, using it during the channel means she cannot move to position herself to hit her targets. Zhonyas cannot be used after the first 1.25 seconds of the channel. It can only be used during the channel, or after she lands.
: > [{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-14T11:30:53.049+0000) > > you continuing to say neeko has too much damage in her kit does not erase the fact that her damage is on par with most mages in the mid lane. Who still have more safety than her. > > And in fact has less dmg and scaling than quite a lot of mages in the mid lane. > It's funny no1 complains about a morgana, who has more damage on all her abilities than neeko does. > Yet for some reason, neeko has too much damage. > > Seems like people like to complain for the sake of complaining. You confuse Morgana's scaling with doing raw damage. Neeko is an imbalanced champion. Period. Remove the damage buff and she'll be another unplayable champ similar to Zoe.
DO you even know what scaling is? Morgana has higher base damage and higher Ap scaling on all her abilities than Neeko. Neeko needs rank 3 ulti in order to have 1 ability with higher base than morgana and it still has lower ap scaling. Absolutely nothing is wrong with neeko, and you are complaining for the sake of it. Nothing more.
LilyPichu (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5AKOzRq7,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-12-16T23:25:32.750+0000) > > It was not a ranked game. He was lvl 15, so obviously normal. > > Nothing he said was a lie, and you are trolling. Yes but he said they were gold and obviously they weren't They were all under level 20 how can they be gold?
They were not under lvl 20. you can check by looking at his op.gg Enemy team was gold and silver.
BradNo (NA)
: No one honors when they lose. How can I fix that?
I never type anything, and i usually get honored.
LilyPichu (EUW)
: this is a troll thread, you cant play ranked if youre under lv20 and you can see in the screenshot jax and zac and ezreal are under 20.. you saying theyre gold is a lie. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
It was not a ranked game. He was lvl 15, so obviously normal. Nothing he said was a lie, and you are trolling.
: Ironically flaming my friends got me suspended, what to do?
real friends don't report you for flaming, they flame you right back. Delete that guy from your life.
: > [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EUznGIi1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-15T22:07:01.575+0000) > > Neeko doesnt have dash.. Sorry if i was unclear, but her W is basically an ability all dedicated to mobility. Im comparing it to something like, syndra, anivia, viktor, xerath, velkoz, etc who can only walk by foot
Viktor has a MS boost on his Q, Cass gain MS for hitting her poison. You don't consider cass or viktor MS buffs to be mobility. but you consider a MS buff that will be less than anything Viktor will gain, until late game, an ability dedicated to mobility? Neeko's MS buff is lower than what cass gains at all ranks btw.
: > [{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T03:19:27.898+0000) > > Neeko doesn't have a passive dude. > Neeko can only stun on her ultimate, which is easy to dodge and puts her in the middle of the enemy team. > > Neeko's root is a slow skillshot, that can really only hit you if she manages to speed it up by using minions. > That root that you are saying is too long, is actually shorter than lux bind until lvl 3. Sorry, but you continuing to compare Neeko's abilities to Lux doesn't negate Neeko has too much damage in her kit.
you continuing to say neeko has too much damage in her kit does not erase the fact that her damage is on par with most mages in the mid lane. Who still have more safety than her. And in fact has less dmg and scaling than quite a lot of mages in the mid lane. It's funny no1 complains about a morgana, who has more damage on all her abilities than neeko does. Yet for some reason, neeko has too much damage. Seems like people like to complain for the sake of complaining.
: It's always felt like that Morgana's bind doesn't do much for me. It hits me, and I stay still. The game goes on as usual. When Neeko hits me, I get ulted in the face. It feels different. It's just that Morgana's damage is slower, and therefore more counterable and less annoying. Neeko has CC on at least two of her abilities and she's got her passive. One thing Karthus hates is CC, cuz he's gotta channel ult. Neeko has so much of that. And she's probably never going to run from you cuz she can just ult in your face and become practically unkillable(cuz you can Zhonyas in ult as Neeko, or the shield is going to save her anyways.). Walked through Karth's wall? Walk back and ult him. Nerfs will be needed.
So margana bind has higher AP ratios, higher base dmg, Her E tormented soil has Equal base dmg to neeko Q and has 110% ap scaling. Morgana ult at max rank is 600 base with 140% ap scaling. It splits into two, 50% of the dmg/scaling is done instantly. The only reason you feel unaffected by a morgana when she hits you is because she is not just building full ap glass cannon like neeko. But all Morgana abilities have higher base + higher scaling than neeko. If a karthus walls a neeko she will never be able to get close enough to ult him, she just won't. You say neeko can ult in Zhonya, well karthus has his defile on during zhonya and can also zhonya a neeko ult? His wall slows her so much that he can actually just kite her. Karthus doesn't care if neeko roots him, He can still wall and out trade her as she needs to walk into him if she ever plans to proc her passive. Even if she only wants to use Q, she needs need to be within range of karthus Q. His wall also shreds MR, which just lets him out trade a neeko harder. Neeko only has 1 way to stop a karthus ult and that is with her own ulti ( her only stun ), and no karthus is going to channel ulti infront of an enemy champ.
Terozu (NA)
: Lux's W, costs mana. Neekos doesnt. Furthermore Level 5 isnt just early game, thats pre-6, if we go with first skill at level 4, neeko on a spell round uses 140 mana, Lux on a spell round uses 200. So im sorry, i got the difference off by fucking 10. a 60 mana difference isnt "nearly identical" anymore than im "nearly identical" in age to my 10 year older sister. Especially since Lux only starts with an extra 30 mana and 1 more mana regen. And they both start will have around 600 mana at that time. so Neeko 600 - 140 Lux 600 - 200 Neeko 460 - 140 Lux 400 - 200 Neeko 320 - 140 Lux 200 - 200 Neeko 180 - 140 Lux 0 Neeko 40 - 40 Lux 0 Neeko 0 Neeko will be able to get off a whole extra round of spells and then probably an extra spell. thats not insignificant, especially since Neeko's W doesnt even have a cooldown other than every 3 autos.
What exactly are you even talking about? Lux W is a 150 health shield at rank 1, neeko's W is a 20% MS buff. One of those spells are not like the other. Neeko's W is pretty much a passive only, why would a passive ability cost mana? Neeko W does have a CD, and it is longer than lux W at all ranks. Her passive which triggers on 3 autos only does 50 dmg on a skill she maxes last. Lets say they are both lvl 10, lux passive has 110 base dmg while neeko still has 50, and a passive she can trigger once every 3 auto. Lux can trigger her passive faster, more easily, multiple times in a single trade.
Terozu (NA)
: If we do that, then Lux's early mana consumption is significantly higher. Not to mention, Neeko's W doesnt have a cost, nor can Lux just proc passive whenever with or without mana. Dont call them identical when for every round of spells Neeko is spending 100-130 early while Lux is spending 200-300, thats not nearly identical.
you realize that when both lux and neeko are lvl 5 ( 3 points in main skills ) that the mana cost for them both you use Bind + main damage ability is identical right? Neeko E costs 20 mana more than a lux Q, while Neeko Q costs 20 mana less than Lux E. So yes they are identical, except lux has higher range on her abilities. At most, lux uses 60 mana more, while being able to proc her passive twice, and negating some damage.
Mullixi (EUW)
: Neeko's Stun
The counter play is to position better. It is also a root, not a stun.
Terozu (NA)
: Lux maxes E first 75% if the time, which is much higher than neeko e.
You are comparing different abilities. Lux E is Neeko Q. Both max those skills first.
: Yeah i would say she's broken. Even Akali, with her shroud, can be killed by Karthus. Neeko has so much CC and range that Karthus is never going to kill her unless he's dead. Her health is quite high too. It's 50% more than what I get on Akali or Caitlyn. Her damage is ridiculous. Morgana's Dark Binding does like 100 while Neeko's Tangle-Barbs do like 500. She'll need some nerfs, especially her ult.
LOL morgana bind has higher base and higher ap ratios than neeko. Her ult is also equal in damage to neeko's ult. Karthus wall cucks neeko hard, he also out ranges her with his Q. All champions can kill each other, Karthus can even out trade neeko early with his Qs.
: Neeko
As kayn you just ult her when she jumps in the air to use her ult and you dodge all the damage. Zed can farm safely and instakill neeko at 6. He should never be hit by her ult thanks to his shadow. And if she catches you off guard, you can just ult her ult and dodge the dmg/cc. Yasuo can windwall her E and then you have 12-10s of free dmg on her. I say free dmg because if you have minions, she is not landing Q on you, and if she does, it will be only 1 proc. And with max flow, he can block all or most of her Q dmg if she does land it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-11T13:52:15.463+0000) > > Lux doesn't have a reliable AoE ultimate? are you joiking? > Lux does not need any escapes because she hits from a larger range than neeko, every single one of her abilities has higher range than neeko, her bind is faster than neeko's bind unless it goes through minions. > > Neeko is a mid range champ with 1 ability that either helps her get into the fight or escape, she cannot use it for both. > > She also has no passive. Lux's ult is a skillshot vs to Neeko not only having a high damage AOE Ult, but she is able to re-position it. Again, Lux has range because she is squishy with limited escapes. Neeko's stun not goes through minions, but it is empowered by them, which is the issue. Neeko does have a passive - her ability to change into allies.
Neeko doesn't have a passive dude. Neeko can only stun on her ultimate, which is easy to dodge and puts her in the middle of the enemy team. Neeko's root is a slow skillshot, that can really only hit you if she manages to speed it up by using minions. That root that you are saying is too long, is actually shorter than lux bind until lvl 3.
: How hard is Neeko to gank?
Neeko is easy to gank. Her invisibility only lasts 0.5s and she has no escape.
: > Neeko root is more comparable to Zyra root, which ignores unit collision and roots for 1- 2s, with more range than neeko has on her E. personally I'd argue that Neeko's snare should not ignore units for the simple issue that when compared to Zyra who has a similar form of CC, Neeko's CC will give a safe confirmed hit on Q for a large sum of damage, along with additional AA, where as Zyra's CC will only have a safe small hit, where as bigger burst numbers will require more setup. further more, with proper positioning you can completely avoid Zyra's higher burst combo where as Neeko's is always confirmed upon being hit by her CC.
Zyras burst is also pretty much guaranteed if you land her root, she can burst harder than neeko from essentially the same range when you add in her plant damage as well.
Kloqdq (NA)
: I will agree her mana costs are pretty strong honestly but its not the worse thing in the game. Seen champions spam abilities and never run out, even more so with Lost Chapters. As for the CD counter point to your counter point, look at champions like Karthus, Malz, Liss, Cass, Sol, etc. There ultimate are arguably equal high impact ults but the standard early game is 120 with some higher like Malz's 140. Why does Neeko have a flat 90? Sure late game you can get the others ultimates low but Neeko can get hers low faster than **should be** allowed. Thats a big red flag when i look at it. Not to mention her other abilities being fairly low and getting low quick with CDR.
Early game she can never root you for 3s. It is 1.4s max early, and it requires you to hit it through minions. You cannot compare Neeko's ult to Lissandra or karthus or thos champions you just listed, because they all have different functions. Lissandra can ult herself and become immune to damage, Karthus can ult you from anywhere on the map. You are trying to look solely at the spells and the CD they have without looking at the champion kits. None of those champions you listed are required to dive into the enemy team in order to get an easily avoided ult off. Neeko's abilities have similar CDs to other burst mages, her normal abilities have the same cd as most other mages, burst or otherwise.
: You forget everything else her skills offer. You just dismantled one singular part of the wholesome argument of mine at the neglect of all the others. So I will do the effort of repeating myself. Yes Neeko's R requires you to go in, but this "risk" is nill and nothing with a shield that's half the size of your health pool, then a stun added right after the burst to make sure you can't retaliate whatsoever once she gets going. Furthermore it's impact in general is much larger and her burst damage spikes higher at all stages of the game. Her base damage at skill rank 1 is just 25 lower than lux's while her AP scaling is almost twice that of lux'. Neeko's root does cost more mana, but I did say once again that the root in itself isn't the problem, it's what it offers for the rest of her kit. She can cc for 1 whole second longer than Lux, allowing the full 3 damage procs of her Q to hit with fair ease. Which makes her 3 hit passive mostly just a provocative poke, yes, but one that, unlike lux, can be tossed in whenever wherever at whim. Meanwhile Lux has to stay close to the person she just rooted for her AA to go off which against many matchups will be the ruin of her one escape. And I repeat on that, too. Yes, Neeko's 3 hit can only be procced once every 3 hits but it can be done so FREELY. AT ALL TIMES. Lux can't use her passive without using her skills at all, necessarily tying her passive to the manacost of the skill she decided to use. Furthermore Neeko does gain a slight movement speed boost each time she hits that 3rd passive so not only can she use it at all times, at no costs, but gets a fleeting swifty boost incase the enemy decides to fight back for that poke. Lux does get none of those safeties. Last but not least, yes, Neeko's root range is a bit lower, but it's travel animation is much faster, allowing a more fluid and faster follow-up or escape, since it traveling faster equals it being harder to dodge. So for defensive purposes, like rooting your enemy to disengage, it is safer because it offers more in ratio to what it costs. Again, this isn't just about risk OR reward, this is about the ratio between risk:reward and in that regard Neeko reigns on every scale as far as I am concerned.
You are completely wrong, her shield is not half the size of her health pool, and while diving the enemy she opens herself up to being bursted down before even getting the ult off. You just said her 3 hit passive can be tossed in whenever at whim, yet she is in auto atk range of a champion like lux who can proc her passive multiple times while negating alot of the damage from neeko at the same time with her W? Lux can proc her passive at a minimum of 2x if she lands her bind and then walk away. Neeko cannot. It seems like you are trying very hard to find a reason to call her passive W OP when in reality it is harder to proc than most 3 hit passives in the game. Lux and neeko both have the same auto range, so how is it lux needs to stay in auto range to proc her passive and neeko does not? Lux also has her passive at lvl 1, while neeko has it at lvl 3. How is a 3 hit passive proc'd freely at all times? If a neeko walks into range of you to auto, you are in range to trade back into her. Her E is a root, not a stun, you can still deal damage during the root. Neekos root is not a faster travel time than lux Q, it is only faster when going through minions. At no point in any situation will a neeko ever proc her passive more freely or nearly as quickly as a Lux. For example lets say we have a neeko vs lux mid lane. Both are lvl 3. For neeko to ever root lux, she has to be within range for lux to poke her and just walk away without taking any damage. If neeko manages to root lux, then her 3 hit passive only deals 50 damage, while lux has a 2 hit passive that deals 40 damage. So lux, shields some of neeko's damage, while hitting 4x? How exactly did lux give up her safety? Neeko is actually the one who gives up her safety to proc her passive. You assume everything goes perfectly for the neeko and the enemy does not trade back into her. In lane phase, a lux can poke you outside the range of minions, a neeko cannot and she will take at minimum a few hits from minions for trying to proc her passive. Which again, is Neeko giving up her safety.
: And I wasn't comparing the passives in itself, I was comparing the risks and drawbacks of using them. AKA the costs. Lux has significantly higher costs to use it and risks dropping the very defence she even has to offer by staying and AAing the enemy champion she just rooted. And again, Lux needs to use her skills in order to proc her passive and while her Q is moderate, her E is not. Her E has a standart Ult manacost at skill-rank 3 which is lvl 5 for most lux players (Some people actually max Q first) I repeat, I was not comparing the initial skill and it's activation, I was comparing the drawbacks and risks in ratio to the reward. Neeko's 3 hit passive one of the, if not the safest in the game to her already insanely safe kit. Her R gives her a shield AND a stun, her E can root up to 3 seconds and travels really fast and her Q has a range of 800 which is rather high for a burst mage. Neeko is way too safe for the damage she can bring, and the safest aspect in her entire kit is her AA, hence the suggestion to make her repeaded poking riskier as to make the reward actually worth the effort.
You just said lux needs to give up her safety to proc her passive, yet neeko gives up nothing to stand and auto you 3x to proc it? Her R requires her to dive into the enemy team as a squishy mage, lux can burst you on a 30s CD ult from huge range. Like I said it costs more mana for neeko to use her Root than it does for lux to use her bind, while procing her passive. the fact is that neeko would give up more safety than a lux if she wanted to proc her passive. Neeko does not have a safe kit at all, and her passive is not easy to just proc. If you think it is more difficult for a lux with a 200 range advantage on her abilities to proc her passive than it is for a neeko, then idk what to say to you. If you try to say that she can hit a minion twice then W and auto you once, well guess what? her passive at lvl 3 hits only 10 dmg more than lux, but can only be procced once every 3rd auto. But if you include her W skill into the mix, then guess what? lux also has a W that at lvl 3 ( champion lvl ) shields 150 dmg. How is neeko safer than lux again? All their skills are essentially identical. But the one with shorter range is some how safer?
: If you ask me, I only have one complaint about Neeko
Neeko's entire kit is mid range and not long range. In fact every single one of lux's abilities have higher range than neeko. Her bind roots for longer and travels faster than neeko's bind, unless it goes through minions. Lux has higher base AD than neeko does, so her Auto atks deal more dmg early. Mana cost between neeko and lux in the early game are basically identical. EX: Lux bind starts at 40 - 60 mana with a 10S CD at all ranks, Neeko E starts at 60 - 80 mana with a 12 - 10s CD and shorter range. Lux binding also has higher base dmg starting at lvl 2, as well as 30% more ap scaling. Neeko needs to hit 3x to trigger her W passive, which she only gets at lvl 3. You can't compare lux passive to neeko passive, as lux can proc her passive multiple times on multiple enemies quickly and neeko cannot. All lux abilities can also ignore unit collision. Neeko root is more comparable to Zyra root, which ignores unit collision and roots for 1- 2s, with more range than neeko has on her E.
: > [{quoted}](name=Still Virgiñ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=78aoRBnE,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2018-12-09T23:17:05.403+0000) > > Because those are her only damaging abilities? Also the root on her E is only 0.5s at all ranks. At max rank the empowered root is 1.5s. > > Lets take Lux for example, her Q roots for 2s , deals more dmg than Neeko's E and has a higher Ap ratio. > Her E, has 20 dmg less than Neeko Q, but has a 20% higher AP ratio. > > Neeko's root duration is actually fine, everyone is just overreacting. Lux doesn't have any reliable escapes, speed boosts, stealth, or AOE ultimate. She needs burst to survive. Neeko's kit is overloaded. She's like ZoeBlanc 2.0. Why give some champs burst but nerf other burst champions? If Riot doesn't see an issue with her damage, then I'm not understanding the logic behind nerfing Taliyah's Q.
Lux doesn't have a reliable AoE ultimate? are you joiking? Lux does not need any escapes because she hits from a larger range than neeko, every single one of her abilities has higher range than neeko, her bind is faster than neeko's bind unless it goes through minions. Neeko is a mid range champ with 1 ability that either helps her get into the fight or escape, she cannot use it for both. She also has no passive.
: Neeko has surprisingly high stats for someone newly released.
If you can play lux you can play neeko. half neeko's kit is essential 1/2 of lux kit. So people are picking her up more quickly than other champs.
: Dude i was going to on your side cuz this happened to me by Rito name as most evolved squirtle pokemon. But you die double digits EVERY GAME with almost no contribution So relax what others say and play better friend. So factually you are soft inting not just that game but all...
who cares how he played, the rioter was toxic by riot definition and should be punish the same as any other player. Looking at someone's match history does not tell you anything. His match history is also not that bad. For example in that game, he placed more wards, dealt more dmg to champions, had more gold than the teemo. Looks like he actively tries to win and dies more than usual.
: > [{quoted}](name=ProExpertKing,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KeZLXXXH,comment-id=00390001,timestamp=2018-12-10T16:10:27.571+0000) > > The ability of a mute button is not to keep players who are toxic from getting punished for it. toxicity isn't much of a problem if you just mute them. can't be upset if you can't see it. toxicity imo isn't a problem when you have tools to prevent it. not saying this guy was being toxic but. unless they go around spouting racist shit or insulting you, then I don't see a problem.
You cannot use the real world definition of toxic to define the behavior of the rioter, you can only use the definition of toxic as used by riot. And by their definition of toxic, this rioter was without a doubt being toxic to the OP.
: you realize there's mute button for people like this, right? hardly toxic when he's calling you out for not playing well, but if you've got this much of a problem with him pointing out the obvious, you could always mute him.
It doesn't matter if you can mute them or not. Because according to riot themselves, this behavior is toxic.
ROCKST4R (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=StarGuardianWeeb,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KeZLXXXH,comment-id=0027,timestamp=2018-12-10T10:06:20.535+0000) > > Big shocker, they act just like their player base. Look into the post creator's match history, you'll get tilted.
His match history has nothing to do with the way this rioter treated him in game.
: Ok we all have our fun with Neeko now its time for the nerfs!
so what you are saying is that, they should nerf LUX E? because it is the same as Neeko Q, but it has a much larger AoE and higher dmg + ratios.
: The E going throw minions and CC'ing is broken. Stun lasts too long. Q does far too much damage. Riot needs to make up their mind about damage output in general. Neeko Q does just as much if not more damage than Taliyah's Q used to do before nerfs. Why is it acceptable for Neeko's Q and Ult to do so much damage?
Because those are her only damaging abilities? Also the root on her E is only 0.5s at all ranks. At max rank the empowered root is 1.5s. Lets take Lux for example, her Q roots for 2s , deals more dmg than Neeko's E and has a higher Ap ratio. Her E, has 20 dmg less than Neeko Q, but has a 20% higher AP ratio. Neeko's root duration is actually fine, everyone is just overreacting.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3bKI4amB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-09T19:54:46.965+0000) > > If you don' tmean the pass (which gives you missions and per game rewards), then the snowdown stuff lasts until early jan I believe. I do seem to have missions though. It just says there are a lot of the Snowdown tokens locked away. Do I get additional missions as well?
I think you only get the first win of the day mission with the pass.
: > [{quoted}](name=BarrymP,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ywA9FHra,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-08T17:28:08.488+0000) > > you only taeke one hit unless you cant dodge and if you cant dodge you deserve everything that happens to you. I'm not talking about the root i'm talking about her just popping q on you.
I mean you can just walk out of it and not take the rest of the damage?
: Guess I'll be banning the new cancer champ
long range burst? LOL nice troll post
sooni (EUW)
: Prestige edition Akali.
: So I got Chat Banned for this
You don't need to ask for reports. just do the reporting yourself
: Here we go again.
Banning new champs is pretty lame tbh. For one, you never learn how to play against them, which is another reason people scream for nerfs when they get rekt by random champs.
wolf jade (EUNE)
: the get pass thing is with or without the first win of the day mission?
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