: This game is so toxic that it's like a full-time job to actually take reporting seriously.
Riot should allow us to save chat logs from matches to add them when sendding support tickets and showing them and all the people how bad their punishment system works, a troll system that is abused by premades and solo players fall victim of it. But yeah, Riot wont share this, they only want you to get the chat log only from you and not the whole players in the match :)
: I need help to get back to my elo
Being honest with you, if you play a solo lane (top or mid) and you dont know how to win lanes then go away from that lane. This new meta is about wining early, on lane phase, and snowball the enemy to make your team win. Is not about team play anymore, is about you getting god like and destroy your enemy because they wont catch up with you as long your team and the enemy team are about the same level. This meta has been made for those players who were angry to lose games they were winning early, now combacks are even less common that before. You lose a match in the first 10 minutes, at 15 you can clearly see the outcome. Now more than ever the amount of games where teams surrendered at 20 or were defeated around that amount of time is insane. Just keep in mind that, the issue is not about Nami being a bad support, is a good pick. The issue is about carries now more than before need to know how to carry and snowball the enemy.
: > [{quoted}](name=Zyniya,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qA5RcMxB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-02-13T15:30:22.894+0000) > > I've been winning fine in low elo with Janna even tho 9/10 games will have a Leo/Naut/Botz/Thresh. > > Have you looked on the champ page to see how many people are high elo with her maybe the meta has an issue or maybe you playing vs people higher ranked cuz of the ranked reset. > > I've been seeing more and more golds from last season in my low silver games cuz thats just where they are placed and now it's silver & golds in the same elo. It would be very strange that in silver 2 mmr vs gold 4~ gold 3 players I would lose every single game this hard, specially when I reached plat 2 promos once and got to plat in 4~5 accounts, so no, I dont think its because higher rank, I think they are under my normal performance to be honest, except for champion pick. I feel like i'm forced to play something broken and learn it to be able to win games, I say that because once I learned to play fizz I started to win again, but the question is how to win with the champions I like which are reduced mostly to peel champions, specially Nami. How do you play laning phase? Are you proactive? Do you poke them? If you play passive, what do you do to win when you play passive?
> [{quoted}](name=x Wyvern x,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qA5RcMxB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-02-13T15:41:30.976+0000) > > It would be very strange that in silver 2 mmr vs gold 4~ gold 3 players I would lose every single game this hard, specially when I reached plat 2 promos once and got to plat in 4~5 accounts, so no, I dont think its because higher rank, I think they are under my normal performance to be honest, except for champion pick. > > I feel like i'm forced to play something broken and learn it to be able to win games, I say that because once I learned to play fizz I started to win again, but the question is how to win with the champions I like which are reduced mostly to peel champions, specially Nami. > > How do you play laning phase? Are you proactive? Do you poke them? If you play passive, what do you do to win when you play passive? A previous platinum player may got ranked in silver if he didnt had luck on his 10 first ranked matches. I diamond player could start in gold if he did poor in those 10 matches too.
Evilfreak (EUW)
: Sure I will leave soon dont worry.(told about the toxic community) Here is perfect example.
> [{quoted}](name=Evilfreak,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GL22GUqr,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-02-13T15:57:43.767+0000) > > Sure I will leave soon dont worry.(told about the toxic community) Here is perfect example. And you will get first banned when you point out the faults on Riot before people like him that always whiteknight Riot flaming those who doesnt like bad changes in the game.
: Solo Queue is a Cursed Problem
Solo Q should be that, for SOLO players and not duos. Let the duos play in Flex Q. Both queves should exist in the game because it teach you to deal with unknow players and you will learn to coordinate in diferent kind of enviroments. Flex should be for those players that have already made a good matching with other Solo Q players and wanna try showing how good they can work as a duo, trio or full team. I have noticed more faults on Flex right now where you can find games with full 5 man premades vs 5 solo players. The more stupid matchmaking on a game that I have seen so far.
: i was bronze 4 and i played against 3 gold players?
If you keep that win rate ratio you will be playing vs platinum players and later with diamond players. Your account doesnt have many games in Solo Q, your last rank was from season 7 with only 9 games, you didnt get ranked but your MMR probably was around silver rank. Now in this season your win game ratio is good and for accounts with few ranked games a win gives you a lot of MMR and a lose will make you lose a lot of MMR until the system start giving you about the same league points per win as you will lose by a defeat. If you where to stop ranked this season and start next year again you will be matched vs gold and silver players again. Just keep in mind that.
: Reported For Replying To Flamers
Riot doesnt care about you, they cathered to trolls and people who made a premade to report others and make them punished by their useless automated disciplinary system.
Slythion (NA)
: Is the "stay signed in" broken on the boards?
Broken client, broken boards, broken all.
VoKks9 (EUW)
: The support will always lose, soon as the ADC who won the game says ''report the support because I don't like how he spoke up for himself'' I get reported, reviewed, and punished. While he carries on unpunished because he'll never even be reviewed.
Kalos (EUNE)
: Why is homophobia and by extension hate speech not an instant ban under the no-tolerance policy?
First thing that should be done is to permaban trolls. They are the ones who create the toxicity and lures others to flame them for their own amusement.
: > [{quoted}](name=Unker139,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ABfsfOnP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-04T18:45:19.438+0000) > > Would you wait 20 minutes, or 30? I've heard that at the very high and very low elo, people would have 50 minute waits. > People could be given the choice to either wait longer in queue to guarantee a role or have a chance of being autofilled.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ABfsfOnP,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-02-04T19:13:15.857+0000) > > People could be given the choice to either wait longer in queue to guarantee a role or have a chance of being autofilled. Exactly this.
Bulshlaka (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Agent Corgi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E5jWdAKT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-03T17:22:00.333+0000) > > Wouldn't {{champion:240}} be the champion you would want in the event that they have Soraka Top? she has no self sustain really anything that can all in her repeatedly will butcher her and considering she has no self peel nor damage really to contest an all in anything and i mean literally anything that can jump her will bust a fat nut in her mouth on cd i mean tanks are getting shafted by some bruisers under their own tower and suddenly a squishy top laner with no offensive nor defensive capabilities is good? i think this just means that top laners are actual dog shit players that have been collectively boosted to higher elos based on coin flipping their teams it appears to me that none of the top laners are even capable of playing the game anymore i guess you can congratulate riot for creating things like aatrox irelia and akali that completely destroy lane dynamics huray also for reference sake sett has a 72% lane kill rate and a 46% game winrate aatrox has 77% lane kill rate and a 43% game winrate darius has a 76% lane kill rate and a 48% game winrate mord has 67% lkane kill rate and 42% game winrate irelia has 72% lane kill rate and a 45% game winrate this is what these people are bitching about when you are literally given a lane on a silver platter and you are still incapable of carrying anything with that thats how dogshit these players are This is how this shit lane should look like https://imgur.com/wK9m6H0 instead of people bitching about her 55% win rate fucking start playing better
> [{quoted}](name=Bulshlaka,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E5jWdAKT,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2020-02-03T21:59:18.278+0000) > > she has no self sustain really > anything that can all in her repeatedly will butcher her > and considering she has no self peel nor damage really to contest an all in > anything and i mean literally anything that can jump her will bust a fat nut in her mouth on cd > > i mean tanks are getting shafted by some bruisers under their own tower and suddenly a squishy top laner with no offensive nor defensive capabilities is good? > i think this just means that top laners are actual dog shit players that have been collectively boosted to higher elos based on coin flipping their teams > it appears to me that none of the top laners are even capable of playing the game anymore > > i guess you can congratulate riot for creating things like aatrox irelia and akali that completely destroy lane dynamics > huray > > also for reference sake > sett has a 72% lane kill rate and a 46% game winrate > aatrox has 77% lane kill rate and a 43% game winrate > darius has a 76% lane kill rate and a 48% game winrate > mord has 67% lkane kill rate and 42% game winrate > irelia has 72% lane kill rate and a 45% game winrate > > this is what these people are bitching about > when you are literally given a lane on a silver platter > and you are still incapable of carrying anything with that > thats how dogshit these players are > > This is how this shit lane should look like https://imgur.com/wK9m6H0 instead of people bitching about her 55% win rate > fucking start playing better Soraka top is just a troll pick intended to make the team win for the top lane. I would report that player who dared to pick her top to get him banned from the game. It is clear that if a team loses against a Soraka top then the jungla, mid and top were eloboosted.
: Thing is, Dorans Shield buff was massive, bruisers don't *lose* to ranged tops but they still don't *win* against ranged tops, that's the problem. In a melee vs melee lane or a ranged vs range lane, there's always a clear winner. In melee vs ranged, usually either the melee goes even or the ranged wins it, very rarely does a melee "win" this because they simply can't engage and kill a ranged top laner in one go due to innately being melee and those ranged top laners typically having numerous safety nets (such as Kennen stun and 10s CD E that gives 100% MS for 2s). So Dorans Shield helped melees *not lose* ranged matchups, but they still aren't *winning* them, that's the problem. Ranged safety in top lane needs to take a hit for melee tops to be able to actually *win* these matchups. Soraka is a symptom of this. She's a ranged champion that can do far more than hold her own in a solo lane, either winning or simply *not losing*. I have absolutely no idea what the solution here is, whether there's a blanket solution or if all ranged tops need to be readjusted individually to be more risk/reward, but *something* needs to happen. --- Another big fucking problem is minion aggro. For whatever reason, minions hate melee champions. They will randomly aggro melee champs for no good reason and that damage adds up. On the other hand, they don't give two shits about ranged champions and will often not aggro them at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3SIeeper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E5jWdAKT,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2020-02-04T03:37:32.460+0000) > > Thing is, Dorans Shield buff was massive, bruisers don't *lose* to ranged tops but they still don't *win* against ranged tops, that's the problem. > > In a melee vs melee lane or a ranged vs range lane, there's always a clear winner. In melee vs ranged, usually either the melee goes even or the ranged wins it, very rarely does a melee "win" this because they simply can't engage and kill a ranged top laner in one go due to innately being melee and those ranged top laners typically having numerous safety nets (such as Kennen stun and 10s CD E that gives 100% MS for 2s). > > So Dorans Shield helped melees *not lose* ranged matchups, but they still aren't *winning* them, that's the problem. Ranged safety in top lane needs to take a hit for melee tops to be able to actually *win* these matchups. > > Soraka is a symptom of this. She's a ranged champion that can do far more than hold her own in a solo lane, either winning or simply *not losing*. > > I have absolutely no idea what the solution here is, whether there's a blanket solution or if all ranged tops need to be readjusted individually to be more risk/reward, but *something* needs to happen. > > --- > > Another big fucking problem is minion aggro. For whatever reason, minions hate melee champions. They will randomly aggro melee champs for no good reason and that damage adds up. On the other hand, they don't give two shits about ranged champions and will often not aggro them at all. There is a simple solution for the Soraka top issue and that's called better nerf Irelia.
Garson211 (EUNE)
: So even if they nerf {{champion:16}} {{champion:37}} ppls still going to pick another support {{champion:43}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:497}} . This is a top problem itself. This line just doesn't have any effect on the game unless you feed extremely much ... The Herald buff won't do anything unless it destroys the turret for one hit, but that's not a good idea A better solution would be to the Nerf Herald and swap Dragon and Herald places so that the dragon would be on top. But that could change top to lane full of mages or something that could totally dominate lines like Heimer ect. A winning bot could forcing herald and take more towers hp and in same time snowball and then for example support move to help do drake on top.
> [{quoted}](name=Garson211,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E5jWdAKT,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2020-02-03T22:07:14.023+0000) > > So even if they nerf {{champion:16}} {{champion:37}} ppls still going to pick another support {{champion:43}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:44}} {{champion:497}} . > > This is a top problem itself. This line just doesn't have any effect on the game unless you feed extremely much ... > The Herald buff won't do anything unless it destroys the turret for one hit, but that's not a good idea > A better solution would be to the Nerf Herald and swap Dragon and Herald places so that the dragon would be on top. > But that could change top to lane full of mages or something that could totally dominate lines like Heimer ect. > A winning bot could forcing herald and take more towers hp and in same time snowball and then for example support move to help do drake on top. If you are a main Riven top get ready to be raped fabulously by Taric. That is old news (even before the rework)
Critty92 (EUNE)
: Unpopular opinion: Crit items are freaking busted
At the current state of the game where marksman are basically inexistent, that role got taken over by AD burst carries, the crit chance items should be removed. The time when an ADC had to know how to kite has long gone, now its all nuke them all.
Gradeient (EUW)
: Remove autofill for god´s sake
And worse things are yet to come.
: I feel like there's a huge misunderstanding about Baron in gold and below elo
Players in this game lower than diamond rank (and even some in diamond and higher) are clueless about what to do to finish the game.
Critty92 (EUNE)
: Ranked should be harder for new players to get into!
bots have more level than random gold an platinum players.
: Non-toxic players usually get attacked for being upset by toxic players.
Welcome to LoL, the game where you will get banned before the people creating the toxicity.
: Morgana Ult Goes Off after dying. [GAMEPLAY]
: sounds like you should not give a flying f what others think and play the game the way you have found to work...mute them bitches and move on my friend.....to angry....to close to the darkside is this one.
Riot already shown us they dont give a f... about trolls. Now the meta is making your team lose and report everyone, that way you are untouchable from the report system while your victims will get banned thousand of games before Riot try to solve this issue.
: Actually if you are forcing a playstyle on your team that is unwanted it is against the rules. If by off meta you meant champion then you would be correct but ruining your team's game experience is absolutely bannable.
However Riot doesnt ban Trolls. Riot only ban their victims.
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=NA BruiserAbuser,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lLukPAiU,comment-id=000f0001,timestamp=2020-01-05T10:23:05.273+0000) > > Correction NA is a smaller market THAN china(learn grammar before you want to talk about marketing).. also you have no idea what you are talking about. Let put it in a way where your small brain can understand. Releasing skins in one server Vs releasing skins in all servers. What would earn them more money? And comparing league skins to SELLING FARMING EQUIPMENT TO CITIES god how stupid can you be lmao China. Learn grammar.
: ? Because riot isn't doing it, tencent is. China even has a different client at least when I played. Riot doesn't control the chinese game or at least very limited control. It's also really sad no one has brought this up and people are just replying nonsense.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lLukPAiU,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2020-01-05T02:38:30.711+0000) > > ? Because riot isn't doing it, tencent is. China even has a different client at least when I played. Riot doesn't control the chinese game or at least very limited control. > > It's also really sad no one has brought this up and people are just replying nonsense. Riot belongs to Tecent
: Another ban [Permaban]
Mean while Riot let that Teemo troll run wild to create more toxicity instead to ban him and solve the toxicity issue.
rujitra (NA)
: Your **opinion** is that it’s not toxic. The majority of the community (80% of players never get punished, by the way) thinks any bickering, arguing, name calling, and harassment like this is unacceptable.
Riot and mods in these forums have been selling the idea that opening threads like these are unnaceptable and the OP is the one toxic and creating a negative experience for all players, instead of punishing the troll that is the actual root of the issue and will continue to generate more toxicity in the game.
: How does this system handle trolls?
Riot doesnt care about trolls, they reing is supreme in LoL.
: I called out someone for blatantly lying and it got removed
> [{quoted}](name=Tiamat Taric,realm=OCE,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=kEGtyisn,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-27T04:11:45.670+0000) > > why are the boards mods all snowflake babies Because mods job is to "clean" boards/forums from threads that shows the truth. Thats on all games social media. Censoring things that shows the truth about them.
: New Champions Riot Can You Chill ....
Obviously Riot doesnt care about game balance for some years by now.
Chalze (OCE)
: What's the point in playing ranked in pre-season?
To get more chances to become a toxic player because the amount of trolls and inting players you will get in your ranked games. That is the point of pre-season.
Hotarµ (NA)
: For something to be reportable or punishable, there has to be action taken and evidence of it. If someone says "I'm going to feed" and hovers Nunu with Ghost/Cleanse, that's not reportable until they actually start doing it. It's unfortunate (because there are most certainly people who do things like that to make you dodge or genuinely will intentionally feed) but you can't really ban someone for just making an empty threat like that.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=d3A2HAOZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-02T21:42:53.770+0000) > > For something to be reportable or punishable, there has to be action taken and evidence of it. > > If someone says "I'm going to feed" and hovers Nunu with Ghost/Cleanse, that's not reportable until they actually start doing it. It's unfortunate (because there are most certainly people who do things like that to make you dodge or genuinely will intentionally feed) but you can't really ban someone for just making an empty threat like that. They are creating a negative in-game experience intentionally for the team, it should be reportable and baneable if we follow Riot rules.
: You weren't punished for misbehaving in one game. You were punished for misbehaving in _one more_ game, in a consistent pattern of negative behavior that breaks the game's rules. Additionally, the reform card doesn't always show all the matches that led to your punishment: it randomly selects up to several matches. You might see three matches, but you also might see as few as one, even for players whose punishment stems not from a small number of egregious infractions but rather from dozens of instances of mild toxicity. The purpose of the reform card is to tell you how to reform, so it shows you an example of the behavior that prompted your punishment and explains that such behavior is inappropriate and should be avoided if you want to maintain an account in good standing. Did you find something in Riot's store [allowing you to break the ToS](https://i.imgur.com/AvDSnZF.png)? No, because such a service is not offered. Regardless of how much money you spend, you are required to follow the same rules as everyone else. If the IFS determines that you've been validly reported in violation of those rules, you'll be punished according to those rules. If you wanted to avoid a punishment, you should've followed the rules. Usually, one transgression by itself wouldn't be enough to bring such a punishment to an otherwise clean account, but the IFS works on an escalating punishment system. Breaking a minor rule, like engaging the team in useless arguments, has a minor punishment: a chat restriction. Breaking that same rule over and over again, however, doesn't prompt an endless series of chat restrictions. The severity of the punishment ramps up over time, because the goal is to eliminate the punished player's willingness to break the game's rules. If two chat restrictions don't stop the useless arguments, the system will increase the punishment to a 14-day suspension and deliver a very clear message that the continued rule-breaking is becoming a serious issue and any further instances will result in a permaban. Again, the point is to put a stop to this misbehavior. If a player is more interested in repeatedly breaking the rules than in maintaining access to their account, they'll lose access to their account. Of course, it's possible to break major rules, like cheating, threatening people, or using chat for hate speech, and skip punishment tiers so that a clean account ends up with a 14-day suspension or even a permaban. From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-): > **PUNISHMENTS GENERALLY FOLLOW A BASIC ESCALATION PATH:** > > * First Offense: 10 Game Chat Restriction > * Second Offense: 25 Game Chat Restriction > * Third Offense: Two Week Suspension > * Fourth Offense: Permanent Suspension > > However, it is possible to skip to a Two Week or Permanent suspension based on the severity of the behavior in the game. Excessive negative behavior can result in a Two-Week or Permanent suspension at any time without having a chat restriction on the account. From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player): > Do not threaten or repeatedly tell a player you will report them. Doing so can encourage players who are already negative to continue their behavior. Whether they know they are being reported or not has no bearing to whether the system will act on them. But most importantly, repeatedly threatening or arguing with a negative player can end up derailing the game for everyone else and then open yourself up to reports and possible disciplinary action as well. Avoid negative thoughts and useless chatting with poor performing teammates! Focus on victory by muting the offending player and then reporting them at the end of the game. > > Do not ask other players in the match to report the offending player. It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player; however as mentioned above, it could open yourself up to a report of your own; especially if you are derailing the match by constantly demanding reports of other players. [](http:///) > [{quoted}](name=intense,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q42TTTws,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-03T05:44:13.414+0000) > > the only thing I said that could be considered offensive was "stfu" Actually, most of your chat was devoted to arguing with your team, calling for reports, calling out teammates' scores, giving up, blaming your team for the loss, calling teammates unskilled, and so on. The only non-negative thing you said was the non-sequitur rhyme (one query sprite cranberry etc.). > [{quoted}](name=intense,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q42TTTws,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-03T05:44:13.414+0000) > > but i was getting spammed missing ping for using flash to kill morde. The 2 people flaming me (kha and cait) were the 2 doing the worst on the team. Riot doesn't care who started it. Someone else's misbehavior does not justify your own. From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-): > * Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on. > * Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the [Reporting a Player FAQ](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player) A low score per se isn't punishable by anything other than a lower chance of winning that match. > [{quoted}](name=intense,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q42TTTws,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-03T05:44:13.414+0000) > > I wasnt trolling and I wasnt inting. True, but you were toxic in chat, which is also against the rules. You do this habitually with no indication that you'd ever change, so Riot permabanned your account.
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q42TTTws,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-03T05:53:08.354+0000) > > You weren't punished for misbehaving in one game. You were punished for misbehaving in _one more_ game, in a consistent pattern of negative behavior that breaks the game's rules. Additionally, the reform card doesn't always show all the matches that led to your punishment: it randomly selects up to several matches. You might see three matches, but you also might see as few as one, even for players whose punishment stems not from a small number of egregious infractions but rather from dozens of instances of mild toxicity. The purpose of the reform card is to tell you how to reform, so it shows you an example of the behavior that prompted your punishment and explains that such behavior is inappropriate and should be avoided if you want to maintain an account in good standing. > > Did you find something in Riot's store [allowing you to break the ToS](https://i.imgur.com/AvDSnZF.png)? No, because such a service is not offered. Regardless of how much money you spend, you are required to follow the same rules as everyone else. If the IFS determines that you've been validly reported in violation of those rules, you'll be punished according to those rules. If you wanted to avoid a punishment, you should've followed the rules. > > Usually, one transgression by itself wouldn't be enough to bring such a punishment to an otherwise clean account, but the IFS works on an escalating punishment system. Breaking a minor rule, like engaging the team in useless arguments, has a minor punishment: a chat restriction. Breaking that same rule over and over again, however, doesn't prompt an endless series of chat restrictions. The severity of the punishment ramps up over time, because the goal is to eliminate the punished player's willingness to break the game's rules. If two chat restrictions don't stop the useless arguments, the system will increase the punishment to a 14-day suspension and deliver a very clear message that the continued rule-breaking is becoming a serious issue and any further instances will result in a permaban. Again, the point is to put a stop to this misbehavior. If a player is more interested in repeatedly breaking the rules than in maintaining access to their account, they'll lose access to their account. > > Of course, it's possible to break major rules, like cheating, threatening people, or using chat for hate speech, and skip punishment tiers so that a clean account ends up with a 14-day suspension or even a permaban. > > From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-): > > From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player): > > [](http:///) > > Actually, most of your chat was devoted to arguing with your team, calling for reports, calling out teammates' scores, giving up, blaming your team for the loss, calling teammates unskilled, and so on. The only non-negative thing you said was the non-sequitur rhyme (one query sprite cranberry etc.). > > Riot doesn't care who started it. Someone else's misbehavior does not justify your own. > > From [Riot's support knowledgebase](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286-Instant-Feedback-System-FAQ-): > > A low score per se isn't punishable by anything other than a lower chance of winning that match. > > True, but you were toxic in chat, which is also against the rules. You do this habitually with no indication that you'd ever change, so Riot permabanned your account. I dont see you proving your assumptions. Or should I call you a murderer and copy paste random crap from your country laws and call that proof?
: > [{quoted}](name=SweetShiroNeko,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k59Ku1y0,comment-id=000300000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-02T18:04:43.264+0000) > > Love how whiteknights always try to defend the players who create toxicity in the game and punish/removes/disable accounts and voting on legit reasons to complain. It's never been about "who started it." If you're creating a negative in-game experience intentionally (and in some cases, like AFKs, unintentionally), you should be held accountable for your actions.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k59Ku1y0,comment-id=0003000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-02T20:30:31.041+0000) > > It's never been about "who started it." If you're creating a negative in-game experience intentionally (and in some cases, like AFKs, unintentionally), you should be held accountable for your actions. Oh, havent you thought that you are defending those who are creating a negative in-game experience intentionally? Are you really that dumb to not think about what you are writting and end up contradicting your own reply with your own words? Trolls and feeders are creating a negative in-game experience for everyone, an unintentional feeder should be restricted from rankeds for sometime until he gets better and if his performance continue to get reports from others a ban from ranked should be deserved. A troll and players intentionally feeding to make their team lose should be banned asap. Oh right, you are a whiteknight and will comeback defending them and saying they "dont create a negative in-game experience intentionally" as always.
: > [{quoted}](name=Tokishi7,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k59Ku1y0,comment-id=0003000000000001,timestamp=2019-12-02T07:19:37.818+0000) > > Been playing this game for 10 years, unless they designed a new bot, throwing isn't punishable unless you're 30 games in a row doing it. If you're intentionally trying to lose a game, then it's possible to get a suspension from it. That's not to say it's perfect, but there are players on the PB boards who have complained about getting this suspension where they had no prior history of it.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=k59Ku1y0,comment-id=00030000000000010000,timestamp=2019-12-02T07:35:51.184+0000) > > If you're intentionally trying to lose a game, then it's possible to get a suspension from it. That's not to say it's perfect, but there are players on the PB boards who have complained about getting this suspension where they had no prior history of it. Love how whiteknights always try to defend the players who create toxicity in the game and punish/removes/disable accounts and voting on legit reasons to complain.
: > [{quoted}](name=KVbqbFsC8e,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X1b7WE4O,comment-id=00020000000000010000,timestamp=2019-11-30T02:12:55.803+0000) > > It was a thread he made complaining that everything dies in ".3 seconds". He said he was done with this game and that there was a Steam sale and he got a new PC. I think there may have been someone saying see you next week, but it seems the thread was deleted. Youre a creeper actually , looking my last post going back 3 years... who the fuk does that, I dont care what you posted a day ago. And the key words are 3 fuckin years ago, what the hell does that have to do with anything.
> [{quoted}](name=option paralysis,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X1b7WE4O,comment-id=000200000000000100000002,timestamp=2019-11-30T11:13:27.843+0000) > > Youre a creeper actually , looking my last post going back 3 years... who the fuk does that, I dont care what you posted a day ago. > And the key words are 3 fuckin years ago, what the hell does that have to do with anything. Its called being stalked by a random guys who doesnt have a life outside these boards.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=WAZZZUP500,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=nE4bs0BF,comment-id=00070000000000000001,timestamp=2019-11-25T09:57:36.467+0000) > > Uhhhhhh democracy? I mean it says that ur in NA, right? You know how our government works? > > I mean i agree that 3/5 shouldnt = surrender, but you can't be going around saying false things like that. Yes, and 51% isnt the standard for literally anything other than basic preliminary hearings or minor things. Most major things require more than a simple majority.
3vs2 is not 51% its 60% of votes vs 40% You are only trying to justify your toxicity and trolling ingame traping other players inside a match that most of them dont want it to continue and this is about a team of 5, not about a team of 10, so stop saying stupid things. Pretty much people like you are the ones feeding the toxicity in the game and Riot should remove you from this game but obviously they wont do it because everything they have done is to feed the toxicity in the game too.
Janakin (EUNE)
: Yeah, and then there comes Mr. Veteran saying "I've won even worse". Holy shit, I am so glad I've disabled chat in the settings...
They have won worse games but they have lost most of the games like that. They try to justify the "never surrender" toxic bahaviour only because a minority of games they were able to save.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=nE4bs0BF,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2019-11-24T06:21:21.228+0000) > > Ok I usually don't comment because I don't feel its necessary..... but if you're being unironic about this of all things just makes it glaringly clear that you're one of the most delusional people. > > Just because the enemy is playing with their food doesn't mean your chances of winning aren't extremely low. I mean you've had your fair share of head scratchers but come on. "Extremely winnable" implies you are more likely to win than lose and I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt that you just had extremely unfortunate word choice here. No, its meant as written. The enemy isnt getting any stronger at that point, and if they havnt won yet, then its very unlikely they will, as you will, by definition, get stronger in relation to them. All it takes is one cocky play to kill 1-2 of them, force them back, then ace, causing them to spiral out of control into an immediate loss late game, as they will typically respawn and instantly run forward 1-2v5, dying again, and causing an immediate loss. The longer the game goes on when youre behind, the more likely you are to win as long as your teamcomp isnt garbage. Either the enemy will make a mistake due to the length of the game, or you will naturally catch up.
You are only looking things on your tunel vision sight. Pretty much that's the reason you are trying to justify the "never surrender" toxic behaviour.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Grouchy Poro,realm=OCE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=nE4bs0BF,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-11-23T23:18:40.990+0000) > > surrender votes should be majority rule Alright. 10 people in game, 3 vote yes, 7 vote no. You dont surrender. At least 7 people are enjoying the game enough to not end.
5 people in YOUR TEAM. 3 vote yes 2 no and the game continues. It is obviously a toxic system.
: And then you get leavebuster for not wanting to waste your time with inting trolls.
Sad but truth. And Riot doesnt care xD
: > [{quoted}](name=TheLastShadow45,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cqmoOoQO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-24T18:50:36.201+0000) > > compared to what his passive was before(He legit had warmogs for a passive) it's been nerfed. It clearly didn't work =(
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cqmoOoQO,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-24T18:52:49.567+0000) > > It clearly didn't work =( Maybe you are just an unskilled player.
Nomsumer (NA)
: Why are the rewards for sportsmanship emotes that make you look bad when used?
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kO17z8lg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-20T15:32:13.477+0000) > > Because it had too low of a playrate to make worth keeping around. It was too low to even justify a third attempt at fixing it. > > Yeah, Riot could technically have kept it around, but they'd have to at least devote enough attention to make sure it wasn't getting major bugs, and it was taking up UI space that could have been used for a mode that wasn't beyond saving short of an act of god. No. Riot deleted TT because it was not on their upcoming politic/goals. They want with the arrival of every new games to make a ""clean"" platform/launcher. The TT being an old map and not reflecting what is to them the real league of legends they just decided to delete it with no other reasons (Or actualy, it free some space in the league client with TFT now being in). However, i cant tell why did riot not try to do anything for that mode over the last years (last patch was season5 i think). I can also mention the fact, yes fact, that since they annouced 3v3 removal mounthes ago they literaly did everything they could to kill it raw. They retired the rank restriction meaning a challenger tier player could duo an iron tier player; wich obviously was abused by 90% of the high elo ladder, making high elo games impossible/terrible. But because this was not enough they also retired the message that would warn you when you had to play your decay games with caused many (MANY) master+ players to decay without being warned, by surprise. They also made sure to not reply to anyone trying to do anything for the map and even kept deleting posts on Reddit that explained the current state of TT and what should be done etc (some even hitted front page of Reddit). etc etc etc
> [{quoted}](name=XxXAatroxDu56XxX,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kO17z8lg,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-11-20T17:29:40.733+0000) > > No. Riot deleted TT because it was not on their upcoming politic/goals. They want with the arrival of every new games to make a ""clean"" platform/launcher. The TT being an old map and not reflecting what is to them the real league of legends they just decided to delete it with no other reasons (Or actualy, it free some space in the league client with TFT now being in). However, i cant tell why did riot not try to do anything for that mode over the last years (last patch was season5 i think). I can also mention the fact, yes fact, that since they annouced 3v3 removal mounthes ago they literaly did everything they could to kill it raw. They retired the rank restriction meaning a challenger tier player could duo an iron tier player; wich obviously was abused by 90% of the high elo ladder, making high elo games impossible/terrible. But because this was not enough they also retired the message that would warn you when you had to play your decay games with caused many (MANY) master+ players to decay without being warned, by surprise. They also made sure to not reply to anyone trying to do anything for the map and even kept deleting posts on Reddit that explained the current state of TT and what should be done etc (some even hitted front page of Reddit). etc etc etc Riot at their finnest.
65854521 (NA)
: Senna's W hitbox seems very, very wrong
: > [{quoted}](name=imortalone,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HocUsdz0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-19T12:05:29.906+0000) > > I dont think they are adding ro-bots because of unpopularity... They are adding robots to eventually make the AI smarter then humans. > > Ultimately I think there should be an option to play with robots because im pretty sure you get them in rank too. You do know these are players farming EXP... right? Not an actual RIOT bot.
> [{quoted}](name=ÐarkĆosmicLøtus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HocUsdz0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-19T13:11:08.769+0000) > > You do know these are players farming EXP... right? Not an actual RIOT bot. Are you doubting that Riot is not leveling accounts to sell them? It has been a long time with this issue reported to Riot and they always make a blind eye. It wouldnt surprise me if even elo bosster bussiness is handled my Riot too. At least in Latam it was clear they did.
Pika310 (NA)
: So to sum up what you said: 1. Rito Game, a multi-billion-dollar company & leader in their industry, uses unpaid volunteer programmers, rather than paying for professionals. 2. You don't believe, as a representative of Rito Game & thus somebody whose words & actions as a moderator are a direct reflection of the company, that public relations isn't a part of your job? Except for the fact that and I quote, “_Everything you do or say is public relations._” - Unknown Did I understand you correctly?
> [{quoted}](name=Pika310,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g53JK9pg,comment-id=0008000a0001000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-16T08:53:26.969+0000) > > So to sum up what you said: > > 1. Rito Game, a multi-billion-dollar company & leader in their industry, uses unpaid volunteer programmers, rather than paying for professionals. > 2. You don't believe, as a representative of Rito Game & thus somebody whose words & actions as a moderator are a direct reflection of the company, that public relations isn't a part of your job? Except for the fact that and I quote, “_Everything you do or say is public relations._” - Unknown > > Did I understand you correctly? You are losing your time with him. It is clear he is not enforcing forums rules, he is imposing his own baised interpretation of the rules.
Ýisus (NA)
: Source from prior message: http://password-checker.online-domain-tools.com/ > Yeah. And those 19 characters are far easier to remember as a human than those 9. Remembering "Oh I used that quote from Kindred" is easier than "how the fuck did I spell Kindred for this password again?". The reason it's more effective than pointless complexity is because it's far easier to create a long password if you can remember the damn thing. This is straight opinion - I create all my passwords using numbers for specific letters and tying 3 languages together - I have no issues whatsoever remembering my passwords ... then again, I do not allow my browser to store my password - I type it in every time. example: ( 2 languages ) Qi4n9daP4$5worD! - (First Word is Simplified Chinese for Strong) ( second word is English for Password) This password will take: Medium size botnet About 143 billion years To each their own in password creation - The fact still remains, when you enter special characters / numbers / capital letters / lower case letter requirements into a password of 10 characters or more, you create a more secure password. (Given the length of the password stays the same in both examples). - This is even more true when you are using legacy software that is using an 8bit string cap.
> [{quoted}](name=Ýisus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g53JK9pg,comment-id=0008000a00010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-16T13:43:13.675+0000) > > Source from prior message: http://password-checker.online-domain-tools.com/ > > This is straight opinion - I create all my passwords using numbers for specific letters and tying 3 languages together - I have no issues whatsoever remembering my passwords ... then again, I do not allow my browser to store my password - I type it in every time. > > example: ( 2 languages ) > > Qi4n9daP4$5worD! - (First Word is Simplified Chinese for Strong) ( second word is English for Password) > > This password will take: Medium size botnet About 143 billion years > > To each their own in password creation - The fact still remains, when you enter special characters / numbers / capital letters / lower case letter requirements into a password of 10 characters or more, you create a more secure password. (Given the length of the password stays the same in both examples). - This is even more true when you are using legacy software that is using an 8bit string cap. You are falling into something ridiculous. You are only thinking about you but not thinking about others. That is your big mistake.
TVJunkie (EUW)
: Seriously. Its easy to rig clients for them. I am not talking about the caster team but about the higher ups. They just want an chinese team to ein.
> [{quoted}](name=TVJunkie,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=jxqXg3lh,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T17:06:20.237+0000) > > Seriously. Its easy to rig clients for them. I am not talking about the caster team but about the higher ups. They just want an chinese team to ein. I made a comment about this same shit and I was burried by negatives xD
: @Players leaving the game cz URF's gone: You're proving that Riot's right all along
Meanwhile RIOT thinks they can get more players and profits with 2 fake championships like 2018 and 2019, making teams with mediocre skills being in the finals.
MakJuice (NA)
: CONGRATS EU! FROM AN NA FAN
I am not hyped for this kinda of games that everyone knows has been dictated by riot and not by players, ever since 2 years ago with how much damage lol got from other games the only way riot found to keep player base is artificially making other regions strong, those regions that are also their main source of in-come. Last year was an obvious fake championship as much as this year.

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