AR URF (NA)
: Why are so many champions getting nerfed in 8.14
> [{quoted}](name=AR URF,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A8mhurXk,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-17T03:32:40.166+0000) > > when it's electrocute that's the problem? becuase its riot... as long as u always except them to fuck up,, u will never be disspointed. i mean hell i use electrocute on my main... even i know its fucking busted.. the issue is it's not MORE busted than other things. EVERYTHING is busted
: My 2 cent's would be to lower damage on Electrocute/Predator/Dark Harvest... remove duskblade passive damage and lower blackout CD.. lower damage on sheen proc items to 75-100% base then Lichbane to 40% ap...and increase hp per level across the board slightly so everyone ends up with ~60-120 more hp at 18.... then increase tower damage around 20%. But hey what do I know I've only played the game longer than most of Riots current "dev team." It's really sad to watch an assassin whiff their combo and still pick up a kill with just one ability/duskblade passive/auto/auto/ignite.
> [{quoted}](name=The Bad Touch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xPUrTf6W,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-07-17T01:16:58.984+0000) > > My 2 cent's would be to lower damage on Electrocute/Predator/Dark Harvest... remove duskblade passive damage and lower blackout CD.. lower damage on sheen proc items to 75-100% base then Lichbane to 40% ap...and increase hp per level across the board slightly so everyone ends up with ~60-120 more hp at 18.... then increase tower damage around 20%. > > But hey what do I know I've only played the game longer than most of Riots current "dev team." > > It's really sad to watch an assassin whiff their combo and still pick up a kill with just one ability/duskblade passive/auto/auto/ignite. i dont think she sheen damage was ever changed. its just every single runes being a keystone effect that is broken in season 4 we had no keystones and the was little to no damage creep, getting 100/0 from full hp was absolutely UNHEARD of, and any champ that could do it was hotfixed immediately. then keystones were added and damage creep started.. but at least there were only three now every single champion has 5 keystones and an enem more absurdly strong keystone ability to top it off. they also riased the base ad on EVERY AD item in the game i mean u would have thought that.. hey if tanks need us to implement an item like {{item:3193}} to survive MAYBE damage is too high.. but no... riot donest get the fucking picture we have {{item:3147}} now true damage on {{item:3031}} and every AD champ in the game can get true damage with conquerer at the same time armor pen while slightly weaker.. is available on pretty much every ad item that donest offer crit. while armor item give less armor and even basic runes like "sudden impact" give armor and mr pen other AP defensive item like {{item:3025}} had thier a completly removed (thanks {{champion:81}} your the reason we cant have anything nice) and even items like {{item:3047}} were nerfed. the cooldown on defensive items like {{item:3157}} was INCREASED like in season 4... there was no neeless burst added onto everythjing for no reason at all... there were no "special effect for doing X" to give your champion a massive bonus.. u got damage from items and leveling up your skills. not shit like eletrocute, thunderlords, {{item:3147}} {{item:3095}} ,, even items such as {{item:3087}} wern't really "burst items" they were to help with waveclear they have added some much needless damage that dones't come from ABILITIES. it is absurd. even shit like {{summoner:14}} has been buffed.
: > [{quoted}](name=SwiftKitten88,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eA1NQXqU,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-17T00:49:34.373+0000) > > LOL for a champion who is supposed to be WEAK early game before transformation.. he certainly isnt remotely weak anymore. > > he can out trade a fucking {{champion:19}} at lvl 2 and 3.. which makes absolutely zero sense for a champion who has a "weak" early game. > > and yeah i have seen that in my games before.. even the {{champion:141}} who did it said "ok.. there is no way in hell i should have won that" Kayn out trading a Warwick early game.... Or all game for the most part, shouldn't happen because how Warwick works, if Kayn beats Warwick early game Tell that Warwick to get help, because as long as Warwick has q he should never lose an early trade to Kayn
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eA1NQXqU,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-17T00:52:21.046+0000) > > Kayn out trading a Warwick early game.... Or all game for the most part, shouldn't happen because how Warwick works, if Kayn beats Warwick early game Tell that Warwick to get help, because as long as Warwick has q he should never lose an early trade to Kayn you would think wouldnt you? but kayn actually has higher base hp, higher base AD, higher base armor, faster move speed, higher lvl 1 ability damage, longer AA range as well as warwick doesn't start pots and kayn does, and kayns ability hit a lot harder than {{champion:19}} do at lvl 1 of the ability.. and kayn has eletrocute and warwick runs predator all of which ends up meaning... kayn wins at lvl 2 stupid right?
: > [{quoted}](name=Uber Deer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xPUrTf6W,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-17T00:23:38.499+0000) > > Electrocute and Phase Rush should work like Thunderlord's did, and have a 3 second window _between_ attacks as well as applying stacks for persistent effects. The current requirement that all three attacks/abilities be _within_ 3 seconds is far too constricting. > > Glacial Augment should fire its beam on the auto attack too, not just with active items. > > Aery's _SHIELD_ should scale AP and _HP, not AD_. (Since there are only 5 AD scaling champions who can even apply it) > > Lethal Tempo and Hail of Blades should be combined into one rune. THIS is why damage is sooo fucking high right now. STOP BUFFING ANYTHING.
> [{quoted}](name=The Bad Touch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xPUrTf6W,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-17T00:35:16.216+0000) > > THIS is why damage is sooo fucking high right now. > > STOP BUFFING ANYTHING. they could literally cut the damage to champions in HALF and it would still be higher than in season 4..
: The everyday life of Base{{champion:141}} in a nutshell
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eA1NQXqU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-16T23:16:04.010+0000) > > The everyday life of Base{{champion:141}} in a nutshell LOL for a champion who is supposed to be WEAK early game before transformation.. he certainly isnt remotely weak anymore. he can out trade a fucking {{champion:19}} at lvl 2 and 3.. which makes absolutely zero sense for a champion who has a "weak" early game. and yeah i have seen that in my games before.. even the {{champion:141}} who did it said "ok.. there is no way in hell i should have won that"
: Unpopular Opinion: CertainlyT has really revolutionized this game with his work
CertainlyT has brilliant design, and if he was making a single player game. he could probably make one of the best games of all time.. but he should NEVER be allowed to touch a multiplayer game.. he has absolutely zero concept of counter-play/balance, and having to actually DEAL with things which may be fun to play.. but are horrendously broken. he is a GREAT designer.. every design he has is FUN and exciting FOR THE PERSON PLAYING. but he can never hold back to make the things he does remotely fair for the other side.. he needs to leave riot and design SINGLE PLAYER game.. he couldn't literally do AMAZING work there.. i mean there is no better person to design a fun sophisticated and overloaded thing than him... he would be absolutely brilliant IF he would STAY THE HELL AWAY from multiplayer game. MULTIPLAYER games require there to be fun on BOTH sides.. the person playing AND the person facing... CertainlyT CANNOT do the 2nd part. and needs to accept that and move on the games where his talent at creating fantastically Overpowered and unique kits can be met with praise for everyone involved.. and not utter horror because other people have to face what he just made.
Seen (NA)
: Unpopular opinion: Tank Meta was the best meta.
my god "X being OP" isnt the best "meta", and it never will be... thats not even using the word "meta" correctly... when the game is BALANCED, and when no class is significantly OP compared to any other... that's when the game is good. this isnt supposed to be "ok its this class turn to be broken" and 6 months from now its the next class' turn to be broken, its SUPPOSED to be BALANCED
: Honestly, seeing the Akali rework makes playing immobile champs seem unfair.
... ikr.. i wish i was playing a mobile champion -{{champion:76}} if only i could turn invisible untargetable and have my empowered pounce range extended from 800 to 2000 wiout even needing to land a spear all while having a form of hard cc.. at least then my lack of mobility compared to her would be fair... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: What you'r basically asking for is to remove her theme as a trickster type of champion? That's WHY her Q can come from so many directions, she's supposed to be misleading.
> [{quoted}](name=AMADEUSdotEXE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lBhsGVWx,comment-id=0000000000020000,timestamp=2018-07-16T22:20:08.780+0000) > > What you'r basically asking for is to remove her theme as a trickster type of champion? That's WHY her Q can come from so many directions, she's supposed to be misleading. what im saying is don't come up with bullshit excuses as to why she has "counterplay" when your you admit _own_ counterplay example doesn't actually work...
: Stand behind minions... and ward your jungle...?
> [{quoted}](name=AMADEUSdotEXE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lBhsGVWx,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-15T10:18:42.431+0000) > > Stand behind minions... and ward your jungle...? ... staning behind minions only works when: A: the skillshot cant come from any angle B. the skillshot isnt aoe {{champion:142}} can easilly cast the paddle to the side to avoid the minions
: Notice the word OR is used. This means you itemize to survive against the assassin that can 100-0 you. You care more about damage than staying alive, then keep your glass cannon build and whoever gets the first hit wins. Me, I can get caught completely off guard by an assassin and still blow them up. I just finished a game on my other silver account. {{champion:62}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3075}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3047}} against {{champion:91}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:412}} I survived long enough to 1v3 Talon, Twitch and Jhin multiple times because I sacrificed damage for survivability.
> [{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nEmEpvwL,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2018-07-16T16:57:09.112+0000) > > Notice the word OR is used. This means you itemize to survive against the assassin that can 100-0 you. You care more about damage than staying alive, then keep your glass cannon build and whoever gets the first hit wins. Me, I can get caught completely off guard by an assassin and still blow them up. > > I just finished a game on my other silver account. > {{champion:62}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3814}} {{item:3075}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3047}} > > against > {{champion:91}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:412}} > > I survived long enough to 1v3 Talon, Twitch and Jhin multiple times because I sacrificed damage for survivability. LOL you're absolutely insane AP champions CANNOT build like that.. if i built {{item:1414}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3047}} {{item:3075}} {{item:3110}} i would have about 240 ap at full build while as AD with your three items of {{item:3147}} {{item:3142}}{{item:3814}} would have 282 AD my AP would not affect my autos and i wouldsnt eb able to even TOUCH anyone.. i would be completly useless while u also get a shield from {{item:3814}}, pen and m0oevmespeed from {{item:3142}} , the ability to remove wards with {{item:3147}} . and the {{item:3147}} woudl actaulyl hit more than my {{item:3100}} becuase my ap would be so low.. and u want to know WHY AP champs cant stop at 3 AP items? becuase WE DONT GET AP PER LEVEL where as u.. aty lvl 18.. get 136 AD FOR FREE, and while ap champs also get free AD, OUR ABILITIES DON'T SCALE WITH IT. nidalee does have AD ratios with takedown, but the fact is.. we CANNOT build like that, not anymore... in season 3,4,5 when damage was low enough, before keystones.. it worked, becuase damage was low enough that there would be extended trades. but there ARN'T extended trades anymore, you as an AD champ can BURST down any squishy target with only 3 AD items.. as an ap champ.. we CAN'T DO THAT.. if we stop building AP.. then one single MR item would make it so we cannot kill someone before they kill us. becuase dont get your 130+ free AP like u get 130 free AD for leveling. {{item:3089}} makes up for that yes... but it has to be in our build to do so and that is another item slot.
Terozu (NA)
: A single item shouldnt completely counter a whole champion in the first place.
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mg5Ejkqc,comment-id=000600000001,timestamp=2018-07-16T16:45:14.970+0000) > > A single item shouldnt completely counter a whole champion in the first place. LOL {{champion:76}} lets see... {{item:3812}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3083}} {{item:3022}} {{item:3193}} {{item:3156}} pick one, any one... and zeds compains about {{item:3157}} SOMETIMES being able to countyer thier ulti when used perfectly, while still having a higher cooldown than zed ulti and requiring the active to never be used at any other time than to counter them...
Antenora (EUW)
: Seriously giving Akali TRUE stealth?
ARE THEY INSANE???? like SERIOUSLY???? NO.. RIOT... NO honestly... i have NEVER seen a champion this broken.. never.. not once... not even zoe... this is absurd... i means like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4NIylPdwZE replace "Egyptian god cards with" akali rework
DaCurtis (OCE)
: Create a Third Rune Slot for Base Stats!
this is actually a good idea... like a brilliant idea, wow.. i dont say that very often on the forums it finally give us back customization, as opposed to required choices that we need for our champ because they are the only remotely viable options.
Nhifu (NA)
: Possible fix for players going past 10 deaths, or reported for feeding
right.. because that would make them actually WATCH it? they would minimize the game and go browse the internet while it was playing... did i even THINK about this? u cant MAKE someone watch something... ANYONE who actually NEEDS tom watch the replay to improve would NEVER watch it.
: It's sad that people don't understand this concept. I've been playing for 6 years and have never understood how a person that doesn't have at least 2500 health, (150 armor or 100 magic resist) complains about being blown up by an (AD or AP) assassin. That's literally {{item:3047}} + 1 armor item or {{item:3111}} + 1 magic resist item.
> [{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nEmEpvwL,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-16T15:54:38.745+0000) > > It's sad that people don't understand this concept. I've been playing for 6 years and have never understood how a person that doesn't have at least 2500 health, (150 armor or 100 magic resist) complains about being blown up by an (AD or AP) assassin. That's literally {{item:3047}} + 1 armor item or {{item:3111}} + 1 magic resist item. are u insane???? wtf do u think the scalings are? at lvl 18 on {{champion:76}} i have 1990 HP if i buy {{item:3157}} and {{item:3047}} i have would only reach 152 armor at lvl 18 to get 100 mr i would need{{item:3102}} and to get the hp i would need {{item:3165}} and {{item:3116}} so lets look at that build {{item:3157}} {{item:3047}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3102}} and that leaves me with what... ONE item? which HAS to be my jungle item of {{item:1414}} so i cant even by my most core item in the game of {{item:3100}} i don't have any chance of buying {{item:3089}} or void if u build any MR.. and you're saying i should have that by "default" i would need to be level 18 and have that build to even get what u think i should have.. which would make me completely useless.. and preventing me from doing my entire job. i CANNOT build that.. if i tried to build that i woudl LOSE. i would be absolutely worthless, and i wouldn't be able to do my job as an assassin. i HAVE to build damage. do u even THINK about what your are writing... if i need that much stats in order to not get 100/0, to not get INSTANTLY KILLED.. do u HONESTLY thing my not having RESISTANCE is the problem. if i NEED that much Resistance , if i need lvl 18 and a full 6 item 15k gold defensive build full to not get ONE SHOT, then by definition DAMAGE IS TOO FUCKING HIGH its not the fucking resistance... its the damage
: Is damage a problem, or lack of resistance in your build a problem?
.... 1-2 resistance item wont stop u from getting 1 shot what it _will_ do is top you from having a chance at 1 shotting them back. as longany fucking champ in the game can 1 shot you. unless you can one shot them back resistances don't matter. and as somone who plays {{champion:62}} who is arguably one of the most broken champion in the game right now, who can 100/0 you at lvl 2 from stealth with absolutely no counterplay. i dont feel you are in a postion to tell people how to play.. what am i supposed to start {{item:1057}} on my support instead of my support item? is my adc supposedd to start {{item:1054}}? and buy first item {{item:1029}} no... i _originally_ thought it was {{item:3095}} that broke wu... i was wrong..
: There was nothing wrong with the last Runes + mastery system
to be fair the season 5 mastery were almost as bad as runes reforged you would have to go back to season 4 and get rid of the keystone crap http://abccbaandy.github.io/league-S4mastery-calc/ keystones were the START of damage creep, that is where it started
: Forget broken gold cost wise they are broken for mages to have period
> [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gFKvmbWF,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2018-07-16T04:53:24.407+0000) > > Forget broken gold cost wise they are broken for mages to have period well AD consist of pretty much entirely broken items, {{item:3031}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3124}} {{item:3026}} {{item:3156}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3095}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3139}} where as the only broken item for AP is{{item:3089}} because its is at 40% instead of 25% i mean sure {{item:3157}} can almost canel out ONE of {{item:3156}} {{item:3139}} {{item:3026}} .. but even by itself any of those those is better than {{item:3157}}, as 10% cdr is basially on every freaking AP item anyways so the stat is worthless, 45 armor does pretty much jack shit when its the ONLY AP armor item u can get. it would be find if we had other option as well but we dont and 75 ap is a far cry from 120... and yeah the active is pretty damn good but it can just as easily be misused.. u cant "misuse" {{item:3156}} which makes {{item:3157}} completely situational, but also damn near required because its the ONLY option i dont like the active the OP buts on his item. i agree that we not only need another ap/armor item.. we need TWO more, but the fact of the matter is i dont like what the OP suggested, at this point. they could freaking re-implement "breathstealer" and it would barely even the playing field.
Leonerdo (NA)
: The Balance Team Does Not "Balance the Game Without Even Playing It"
nidalee is a champion that is always going to be strong in pro play when viable, because is EXTREMELY reliant on her team, sure if you are amazing at nidalee you can land really good spears.. but for an example one of my friends mains {{champion:90}} mid lane. as son as he hits 6 he says "ulti is up" and there are maybe about 5 champion in the game that can survive a gank from me when he ulties and i am there. becuase the spear CANNOT miss and they cant buy {{item:3140}} fast enough by the time he is 6. any champion that can reliable set up a hard CC on a enemy champion will make nidalee's ganking absurdly easy.. but that requires teamwork. and more important it normally required voice chat... for nidalee to be balanced in solo que.. she is GOING to be very strong in pro play.. there IS no way around it, not as long as she remains a jungler nidalee has zero form of cc in her kit, and even buying items like {{item:3116}} the slow does not help her land any spears.. she NEEDS her teammates, unless u have complete mastery of said champsion. no other assasin in the game need this as much nidalee does
Leonerdo (NA)
: Nidalee poses a pretty big balance problem (steep learning curve, low counterplay when played right due to slipperiness), and Riot straight up did not want her to be strong anymore. So I think a low winrate was the intended and appropriate target. For the same reason that Azir is STILL at a 45% winrate. Speaking of winrates, you really gotta specify your source in this case. Because Nidalee is slightly strong right now, and yet I could say she has a 45% or 53% winrate depending on the website and MMR that I look at.
> [{quoted}](name=Leonerdo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dPTAchO4,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-16T04:00:16.178+0000) > > Nidalee poses a pretty big balance problem (steep learning curve, low counterplay when played right due to slipperiness), and Riot straight up did not want her to be strong anymore. So I think a low winrate was the intended and appropriate target. For the same reason that Azir is STILL at a 45% winrate. > > Speaking of winrates, you really gotta specify your source in this case. Because Nidalee is slightly strong right now, and yet I could say she has a 45% or 53% winrate depending on the website and MMR that I look at. nidalee is in a good spot right now because eletrocute is too strong on her, and becuase she literally cant ever run out of mana while in the jungle with the new {{item:1039}} .. ( like i havent been able to give blue buff to my mid laner since early season 5 on her, and i can sometimes do it now. and the 80 ap on{{item:1414}} is absurdly good on her, and allows her to solo drag 600 gold faster than she could have eariler (aka after she finishes runic and {{item:1001}} rather than runic and {{item:3158}} /{{item:3020}} that being said as {{champion:19}} can do it at lvl 3 with just a {{item:1041}} .. soo yeah.. but but she also has counterplay that no other assassin in the game has. and that is she cant do jack shit unless she lands the spears your you are low standing right next to her.
Leonerdo (NA)
: I don't think you're giving enough credence to 1) how much game design requires an iterative, trial and error approach and 2) how much time it takes to agree upon, implement, test, and (probably) iterate upon any change, even the changes where the community "does the research for them". I also don't think it's fair to say that they don't give a damn. They did eventually buff Nidalee back up, right? And it didn't take months? A lot of Riot's mistakes come from the collateral damage of move the game forward. Strength of Ages was removed because it all it did was give flat stats and encourage farming; Courage of the Colossus was much better. I can't really defend Dynamic Queue, but it came from the same design goals as Clash. My point is, mistakes are part of the development process. As long as the end-goal is good (and reach-able), then Riot shouldn't be afraid to push towards it and fix the little problems that they cause along the way. On top of that, when someone like Nidalee suffers from that collateral damage, it's kind of a waste of time to try to fix it before they know 1) the extent of the problem, and 2) whether the community can adapt to fix the problem themselves. I absolutely guarantee that if Riot could make balance tweaks faster they would. But it just takes time. To analyze, test, and iterate. At least they've started making more hotfixes, in the cases where something is clearly out-of-line and a simple buff/nerf actually makes sense as a stop-gap fix (while more nuanced changes to fix the root of the problem are being worked on).
> [{quoted}](name=Leonerdo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dPTAchO4,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-07-16T03:13:15.123+0000) > > I don't think you're giving enough credence to 1) how much game design requires an iterative, trial and error approach and 2) how much time it takes to agree upon, implement, test, and (probably) iterate upon any change, even the changes where the community "does the research for them". > > I also don't think it's fair to say that they don't give a damn. They did eventually buff Nidalee back up, right? And it didn't take months? .. it took them six months to bring her up to 46% 1 month under 40% 3 months under 43% and a year and a half to break 48% the only reason i even TOLERATE the rune reforged is that they actually buffed her up to 47% and the change to {{item:1039}} allows her to break 50% for the first time since 6.20 so no.. i dot really call that "efficiently" it not only took "months" it took them well over a YEAR, for her to not be a complete TROLL pick.
Seen (NA)
: Should Duskblade and Stormrazor share the same unique passive?
: enemy got kill despite not doing any damage or CC
the fact u died really isnt in question.. its how the hell {{champion:45}} got credit for the kill yeah that.. was bugged... VERY clearly an execute... i even looked at your HP bar to see if u got hit by ANYTHING.. u didn't
: You're still not answering my question! How is ignoring armor/magic resists problematic? Just saying it does something does not explain to me what makes it problematic. What's wrong with Brand passive? It does Damage over Time! What's wrong with Kleptomancy? It gives free money! What's wrong with Spirit Visage? It gives me 30% more healing! Telling me what something can do DOES NOT tell me why it's a problem in the game. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=KING XXXI,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=c4kJWQcQ,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-16T02:02:33.169+0000) > > You're still not answering my question! How is ignoring armor/magic resists problematic? Just saying it does something does not explain to me what makes it problematic. if i need to explain how bypassing all forms of defense that can be built against it is bad thing to give to every AD champ that wants it, then there is no point in trying to continue this argument.
: Not sure I follow. What about the true damage is problematic?
> [{quoted}](name=KING XXXI,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=c4kJWQcQ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-16T01:38:41.001+0000) > > Not sure I follow. What about the true damage is problematic? there part where it ignore armor/mr? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: Can someone explain to me, what's wrong with Conqueror?
: I think the big question people often have is how often the playtest team misses big mistakes. I know they're human but sometimes there's a question about how <XYZ> made it to live. Also, considering you seem to know more about this than I: What's the challenger/master spread of players like? 2 of every role? A lot of one and a little of others? etc.
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dPTAchO4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-16T00:55:43.558+0000) > > I think the big question people often have is how often the playtest team misses big mistakes. I know they&#x27;re human but sometimes there&#x27;s a question about how &lt;XYZ&gt; made it to live. > > Also, considering you seem to know more about this than I: What&#x27;s the challenger/master spread of players like? 2 of every role? A lot of one and a little of others? etc. the "thier human" excuse doesn't work when a bunch of people say riot stop this is a horrible idea. and they respond saying "no we are going to do this" and do it anyways. aka dynamic que missing something is being human, choosing to do the wrong thing when multiple people tell you that is a horrible idea is what the balance team is doing. like when they said they were going to remove strength of ages 3 months before they did. many nidalee main including myself said it woudl completly gut the champion as the next best rune (thunderlords) had an 8 % lower winrate. they had THREE MONTHS NOTICE and u know i was reminding them multiple times per week. when the patch came out nidalee lost 11% winrate in that one path becuase her core item was also gutted the same patch and for 2 patches she tied the 10th lowest winrate in the history of league. (that wasn't hotfixed) and people were acting like "well riot couldn't have known" of course they could have... they could have had ONE player play her ONCE or listen to the hundreds of nidalee main screaming at them not to do it... but no.. "they have an idea and they stick to it even if it is the dumbest thing imaginable".. thats all it would have taken.. ONE game on her to know she was absolutely completly gutted.. she lost 11% winrate in ONE patch. not only do they not try, do they not give a damn... the DON'T listen to the people who DO do the research FOR them. you know how many time i see things go on pbe that everyone screams DONT DO THIS. and only about 10% of the time they they actually remove it from pbe after community outcry. i love riot.. but their balance team is COMPLETE shit, or they are too scared to speak up and do the right thing. either way they are ruining the game. there are some things no one could see coming, and no one blames them for that.. but then things EVERYONE seems coming but riot does anyways.. is the reason why thier is so much hate and riot chooing to ignore everything show how incompetent thier balance team is
heroikc (NA)
: Early surrender
or they could fix the game... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: Ghost Crawler: "We certainly don’t balance the game only for pros"
pro play is a huge draw? WUT? i don't watch pro plays of 90% the games i DO play let alone any games i don't.
Fízz v2 (EUW)
: mfw no assassins picked in lc$ {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
> [{quoted}](name=Fízz v2,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=c8xakAMg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-14T17:22:34.027+0000) > > mfw no assassins picked in lc$ {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}} why would you need to pick an assassin when every role in the game acts like them...
Rexxiee (NA)
: Revert to patch 8.10 and then balance from there
i would revert to 4.17 and balance from there, but that's just me..
: As a bruiser main, i find conquerer to be overkill
its posts like this why i never judge a post but the author, but by the content of the post.. i have seen this OP spew out a fair amount of complete nonsense... but this post is dead on.... +1
: Let's all take a lesson from Kha'Zix...
"change" is not "good" change is _change_. _improvements_ are good you can replace a CRT TV with an HD flatscreen and that is a good change. replacing a HD 4k tv with a CRT is NOT a good thing. change is CHANGE, it can either be good, bad or neutral depends on the outcome. if u take somthing that was good.. and make it worse... then the CHANGE is BAD. change in an of itself is NOT "Good".
Mael bro (EUNE)
: LoL seasons from best to worst?
i didnt play 1 and 2.. but i agree with the post 4,3,5 (idk if 2 was better becuase i didnt play 2) 6,7,8 season 4 was the best and i cant place 1 because i didn't play 1 either
: WW can easily kill kayn if he is played right. with QW or QE and especially with all his abilities.You didn't play it right or let him hit you with his abilities to much. Unlessyou went W+E at level 2 I don't see how you lost to him. Maybe he had red buff but then you would have blue a and thats more cd reducation so I don't how you lost.
> [{quoted}](name=IfYouSmurfGoDie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dvn2ALWJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-15T19:46:02.910+0000) > > WW can easily kill kayn if he is played right. with QW or QE and especially with all his abilities.You didn&#x27;t play it right or let him hit you with his abilities to much. > Unlessyou went W+E at level 2 I don&#x27;t see how you lost to him. Maybe he had red buff but then you would have blue a and thats more cd reducation so I don&#x27;t how you lost. you would think.... wouldn't you.. we were both like completely shocked... he even said after that "ok there was no way i should have won that"
Ahpe (NA)
: Perhaps make a new jungle starting item for AP champions.
> [{quoted}](name=Ahpe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7auEjnJi,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-07-15T19:35:25.416+0000) > > Perhaps make a new jungle starting item for AP champions. i have thought of that.. but the issue arises that all jungle items build out of the two combined and if u give {{item:1039}} AP then all jungle items.. including things like warrior bloodrazor and cinderhulk.. would have ap. with the only rune system this wasnt an issue... in fact the onle rune system was FINE.. all riot needed to do was make them FREE. The ISSUE is the keystones. it started in season 5 and it got exponetiall worse in season 8 masteries used to be things like http://abccbaandy.github.io/league-S4mastery-calc/ the basally deleted all of the rune pages and made "base stats." for the two trees and then just made EVERYTHING a keystone with one absurdly OP keystone in each
Ahpe (NA)
: How about we just remove the passive stats off Rune Pages?
.... no... the passive stats ant the issue.. quite the opposite... its the NON passive stats its the keystones and shit like triumph that is the issue.. not the passive stats if u remove the passive stats there wont be a single ap jungler in the game that could clear.
Rioter Comments
saltran (EUW)
: I'm sorry but Zhonyas active had 90s cooldown since the first patch when Zhonyas was added, it never had 60s : http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Zhonya%27s_Hourglass
> [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IpwpulEe,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-07-15T19:08:59.107+0000) > > I&#x27;m sorry but Zhonyas active had 90S cooldown since the first patch when Zhonyas was added: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Zhonya%27s_Hourglass oops.. sorry i mean 90... XD it has a 120 now.. i know they increased by by 30 seconds.. brain fart
: Can we nerf garen yet?
garen is indeed too strong.. (escpially with {{item:3095}} )but i honestly think there are much worse right now i think the biggest issues with him that i woudl address if we were to address him are his immunity to CC, and the fact that {{item:3095}} is just broken AS for people who don't normally build crit and like to burst.
Eranell (EUW)
: Anti-Assassin-Item concepts for Mages
as a player who plays _almost_ exclusively ap those are too broken gold for stat wise. and I'm not too fond of the passive either.
Adeiv (NA)
: Should League have a Clone Character?
{{champion:35}} {{champion:62}} /thread because those 2 champs are such fun to play against, that we just need to add more {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: he cant burst through {{item:2420}} so maybe youre just sitting on the wrong component.
> [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9cXpBpdk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-15T06:55:05.728+0000) > > he cant burst through {{item:2420}} > > so maybe youre just sitting on the wrong component. i sometimes don't know if your trying to troll, or if you're really just that stupid...
: Was better with 120 AP
> [{quoted}](name=Redskinsrock2611,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IpwpulEe,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-15T18:09:27.925+0000) > > Was better with 120 AP and a 90 second cooldown i mean yeah... its a "good" item AD get three GREAT items
saltran (EUW)
: No, imo AD champs should not get a Extasis item and AP champs should not get a Qss item either.
> [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IpwpulEe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-15T18:03:05.828+0000) > > No, imo AD champs should not get a Extasis item and AP champs should not get a Qss item either. then can we get a {{item:3156}} and a {{item:3026}} ? i mean if {{item:3157}} is your equivalent to {{item:3139}}/ {{item:3140}} then where is is our{{item:3155}}/{{item:3156}} and {{item:3026}}
: Assassin players are loving this meta, so not their ENTIRE playerbase.
> [{quoted}](name=Phoneutria,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=21yOs1dw,comment-id=000f0001,timestamp=2018-07-15T16:25:25.551+0000) > > Assassin players are loving this meta, so not their ENTIRE playerbase. ??? umm no? i mean maybe the ones who dont care about the actaul state of the game and only want to climb in the cheapest most broken way possible. but.. i main an assassin in {{champion:76}} and she is at the strongest point she has been in since 6.20... and yeah I'm glad she is finally viable.. but that doesn't mean i love this meta... i TOLERATE it because my main is decent. if she wasn't in a good spot i wouldnt be playing at all this game is such a shitty state right now. and yeah i know full well electrocute is absurdly busted, but there are quit alot of other runs just as broken that arn't even keystones... triumph for one then we have ABSURDLY broken ones like conqueror while we have compete shits ones like nimbus cloak in the mage tree which we lost a VERY useful one for just to make dominion stronger for what? it's stupid... i TOLERATE the meta becuase my main is truly viable for the first time in two years.. i don't "enjoy it" let alone "love it"
: Thornmail is worthless
the damage _reflect_ part is useless yes because it donesn't scale with the amount of damage done to you, but the rest of the item isn't
: nonbiased counter argument {{champion:7}} - has to click her q button on an enemy champ and then w/e to kill a squishy {{champion:238}} - has to land every single q after ulting to kill you unless you have literally 300 hp and no summoners and are standing still {{champion:45}} has to walk up to you and press r {{champion:58}} - has to flash stun you and then attempt to burn the rest of your hp if you survived with his q or autos. {{champion:142}} has to q you from 2 miles away {{champion:92}} has to flash on you and combo you perfectly or you have a window to escape or cc her {{champion:134}} literally press r {{champion:133}} has to run in with 600 ms and hope you dont have atleast 1 person on your team to cc her and use her e and q while hitting the eagle eye proc to finish you off. {{champion:43}} press empowered q as a full ap champ {{champion:114}} has to ulti you and then proc every vital notice how UNBIASED this was because i didnt pick the most braindead champions that can be built into assassins in my argument for upvotes rather than use factual evidence
> [{quoted}](name=Milton Fletcher,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o2NdZJyq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-14T01:18:45.154+0000) > > nonbiased counter argument > > {{champion:7}} - has to click her q button on an enemy champ and then w/e to kill a squishy > is an assassin, not a mage, and no.. she isnt balanced either > {{champion:238}} - has to land every single q after ulting to kill you unless you have literally 300 hp and no summoners and are standing still > LOL no he really donest > {{champion:45}} has to walk up to you and press r > his R is an execute and does more damage based on your missing HP unless your 50 min in playing an ADC with no mrand he has ovre 1000 ap an R wont kill you unless your damaged > {{champion:58}} - has to flash stun you and then attempt to burn the rest of your hp if you survived with his q or autos. has two dashes , but sure why he would need to flash > > {{champion:142}} has to q you from 2 miles away who the fuck are u trying to convince here.. nobody fucking thinks zoe was a good idea, she was evertyhing wrong with old nidalee but even worse > > {{champion:92}} has to flash on you and combo you perfectly or you have a window to escape or cc her or u have a window to escape? you mean if they dont burn {{summoner:4}} they have counterplay??? champsions are SUPPOSED to have counter-play thats kinda the point > > {{champion:134}} literally press r > now you're really just pulling stuff out of your ass. read her ulti. just read it... pressing "R" will just send 3 orbs at you and will probably take off 500 hp if that if u walk up to her below 1000 hp while she has 3-4 orbs on the ground.. you're an idiot.. thats like walking up to an {{champion:1}} with her stun ready while at half hp > {{champion:133}} has to run in with 600 ms and hope you dont have atleast 1 person on your team to cc her and use her e and q while hitting the eagle eye proc to finish you off. LOL like you can even hit her with anything while she is flaying around at mach 2, meanwhile > > {{champion:43}} press empowered q as a full ap champ, its a skillshot.. stand behind a minion, or just dodge it.. it only gets the aoe if it _hits_ somthing > {{champion:114}} has to ulti you and then proc every vital gets vitals without ulting... does true damage, is innately tanky, can parry any ability in the game.. even {{summoner:14}}
: What should i do? It just let me back in.
> [{quoted}](name=Dope Solo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OuY4aZHW,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-14T21:47:53.320+0000) > > What should i do? It just let me back in. well the first time i would do is check to make sure everything looks fine, just to verify they didn't get in.. i woudl also consider changing your password to somthing u havent used anywhere else before. back in the day writing your password on a sticky and putting it near your computer was stupid. nowadays.. most of the threats to your accounts are online.. and writing it down is ironically is the safest place to put it. i woudl also verify your account to email if u haven't already. an i woudl check to see if your young siblings/freind/roommates/children have gotten on your computer, if so then then wring down the password would not be the best idea. i woudl also make sure u have antivirus and run a full system scan.
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