: Annnnddddd........... There Goes My Secondary Role
well my primary role was jungle... and everyone single one of they 6 or 7 junglers with lvl 2 dueling potential that are the only viable jungle champs now hard-counter my main. and then my other role of support.. is still bugged preventing me from buying items in random games. so yeah.. im not playing anymore...
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: No. That's a completely stupid comparison. In League, everyone starts the exact same and the good players rise, while the bad fall. In real life, there are people born strong and wealthy, while others are born weak and poor. Different circumstances. In life, you shouldn't cater to the rich, because they came rich for different reasons. In League, you should cater to the pros, because they reached that status because they know how to play the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Snowman Arc,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7knEYsKF,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2018-05-20T17:35:23.269+0000) > > No. That's a completely stupid comparison. In League, everyone starts the exact same and the good players rise, while the bad fall. In real life, there are people born strong and wealthy, while others are born weak and poor. Different circumstances. > > In life, you shouldn't cater to the rich, because they came rich for different reasons. > In League, you should cater to the pros, because they reached that status because they know how to play the game. that very assumption is elitist and assumed that EVERY lower player cant climb because they have no "game knowledge" when is it an indisputable fact that come players have better mechanics and click accuracy than others, and those can be slightly improved by are eventually limited by the human body. i mean have u never hear of COACHES. just becuase a player cant do it themselves donesn't mean they don't know what is going on. the example he gave was perfect.
Pinkaj (NA)
: Try getting these, or encourage your team to get them {{item:2055}} {{item:3364}}
> [{quoted}](name=Pinkaj,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3sVQIoRz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-20T16:18:39.152+0000) > > Try getting these, or encourage your team to get them {{item:2055}} {{item:3364}} unless you are support greabing {{item:3364}} completely removes any ability to ward, and there is no way in hell you can rely on your teammates to ward properly. {{item:2055}} you can only place one of and placing a new will delete your old, and on top of that, once yo start nearing full build you have no room in inventory for one.
Blu 1 (NA)
: Same reason it took so long to fix Ardent Censor: favouritism
> [{quoted}](name=Blu 1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H7oWMgiv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-20T15:10:36.254+0000) > > Same reason it took so long to fix Ardent Censor: favouritism becuase {{item:3504}} wasn't _the_ issue that made ADC's op.. its was the ADC that made ADC's OP. i mean sure {{item:3504}} made them even MORE broken.. but to all the idiots who said " its not "adc's its {{item:3504}}" adc were op before they broke {{item:3504}} and they have been OP after they fixed it. ADC being broken had nothing to do with {{item:3504}}, it just exacerbated the problem.
: Can 1-7 Yasuo stop getting pentakills after completing 1 item?
> [{quoted}](name=PhearBunny,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rrEluT6h,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-20T14:28:54.679+0000) > > Can 1-7 Yasuo stop getting pentakills after completing 1 item? ... its 2 items,{{item:3031}} {{item:3046}} , but your point still kinda stands...
: After 4 years I have learned the boards are correct more than Riot when it comes to balance
Rioter Comments
Ifneth (NA)
: Disable Banning Indicated Picks
no.. this needs to stay. i mean i RARELY EVER have to use it. but i HAVE had to at times. and of course there is the obligatory. if its is 100% pick ban... and your last pick.. and no one is going to swap with you... im not fucking letting it through... sorry. and then the obligatory no new champs in ranked for at least a week so u can learn to play the damn thing first
: > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vhl45a7a,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-19T23:30:48.629+0000) > > When was late game ever an issue? When it stopped happening? :P
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Loki1987,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vhl45a7a,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-05-20T00:33:29.450+0000) > > When it stopped happening? :P that was the sickest burn i have read this year... {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
: lmao you act like anybody below diamond can understand the importance of a full lane worth of creeps
> [{quoted}](name=CubanThund3r,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KAc5pyXs,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-19T19:13:07.153+0000) > > lmao you act like anybody below diamond can understand the importance of a full lane worth of creeps they may not understand the value of the gold... but they certainly understand if they enemy laner was hitting 6 before they hit lvl 4. if you dont get scuttle in jungle.. your fucked.. the other jungler wins.. and you can do nothing to stop him for taking more and more of you camps putting you even further and further behind
: There were no problems with the jungle. The jungle interaction with laners (that first early gank at top, junglers "deciding" lanes) hasn't changed in years. The only appreciable change from previous jungle iterations is that the current jungle (designed for s7) is made to FORCE ganking. Previous to that, for a few seasons, the jungle could be farmed as an alternate gold route which would be (roughly) as rewarding as a lane. The whiners about the early top lane gank are stark raving mad. That gank, at roughly that time, has been a thing since s2 and onwards. In fact it's less dangerous than it was for NUMEROUS seasons because laners show up to lane with free wards. The only 'problem' was a meta shift (farming being more rewarding than ganking) which made the gank a constant, combined with laners who had grown lazy and refused to show respect to junglers and the dangers they pose.
> [{quoted}](name=MorganFreemanBot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a8oPYf0o,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-20T01:21:45.667+0000) > > There were no problems with the jungle. > > The jungle interaction with laners (that first early gank at top, junglers "deciding" lanes) hasn't changed in years. The only appreciable change from previous jungle iterations is that the current jungle (designed for s7) is made to FORCE ganking. Previous to that, for a few seasons, the jungle could be farmed as an alternate gold route which would be (roughly) as rewarding as a lane. > > The whiners about the early top lane gank are stark raving mad. That gank, at roughly that time, has been a thing since s2 and onwards. In fact it's less dangerous than it was for NUMEROUS seasons because laners show up to lane with free wards. > > The only 'problem' was a meta shift (farming being more rewarding than ganking) which made the gank a constant, combined with laners who had grown lazy and refused to show respect to junglers and the dangers they pose. i agree, i mean i an not sure buff camp buff was healthy but it was sure more healthy than this mess. what i would have done if i i was riot and i was adamant on stuffing buff-camp- buff would quite simple. just make it so the ONLY route that wouldn't hit lvl 3 IS buff camp buff, raise the exp on non buffs and lower it slightly on buffs, just enough so it isn't enough to hit 3 obviously first camp has to hit you level 2, but it would be fairly easy to just make it so any route you take would get you level three EXCEPT buff camp buff. and thats only if riot thinks buff camp buff is an issue. i personally think that if you have mapped your opponents gank pattern down to a 5 second windows of when he is going to gank you.. i think it should be pretty easy to avoid said gank.. i mean if its THAT predictable, you shouldn't be dying to it. i mean that is like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pxG4yd8U3U i down voted the OP because the changes to {{item:1039}} are a freaking god send and he wanted to remove that.. if riot didn't completely fuck up the exp it would have opened up the jungle to so many other jungler that have been crowded out by AD champs
: "Here's how to do something!" **Literally doesn't say how to do that thing anywhere in his post**.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QbdUW8xo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-19T20:49:19.706+0000) > > "Here's how to do something!" > > **Literally doesn't say how to do that thing anywhere in his post**. yeah that was kinda... like a clickbait... which rally doesn't work here there was nothing wrong with the jungle i mean yes... doing buff camp buff should NOT hit you lvl 3... but any two things and 1 buff should low base hp from buffs excluding first camp cleared, raise exp of other camps slightly to compensate that's all they needed to change. its really that simple
Rioter Comments
: Surrender should be changed to 10 minutes, since the snowball nature of the game.
or we could u know just make scuttle crab the nexus. because whoever gets it first wins the game now anyways..
: After 4 years I have learned the boards are correct more than Riot when it comes to balance
and that just show how bad the balance team has gotten to be now. even the the majority _forum_ can agree.. you have to REALLY fuck up the game for THAT to happen.
: Lul. i had a fizz try to ff 20 mins into a ranked game i was in because they had to leave for work. Like did they really expect to win in 20 minutes? People can be idiots sometimes
> [{quoted}](name=Zed or Feed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kuXgujtt,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-19T10:25:18.502+0000) > > Lul. i had a fizz try to ff 20 mins into a ranked game i was in because they had to leave for work. Like did they really expect to win in 20 minutes? People can be idiots sometimes that is pretty bad...
: hell at this point i not suprised if riot makes minions spawn randomly and maybe turrets also
> [{quoted}](name=shadowmacer123,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jPknxkV5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-18T19:00:47.887+0000) > > hell at this point i not suprised if riot makes minions spawn randomly and maybe turrets also scuttle crab turrets.. so we can fight for scuttle crab
: Welp, That Killed Jungle Diversity and any Interest I Had Playing This Game
> [{quoted}](name=The Eve of Night,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oKy2L9rL,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-05-18T18:51:40.176+0000) > > From my summoner name you could ascertain quite easily who my favorite champion is. And guess what that champion sucks at? If you answered 'early dueling' you would be correct. Surprisingly, I'm not even really mad about the change or exploding into a toxic fit of rage like most others are. I'm just...disappointed. I won't be playing League of Legends this patch or any future patch until jungle diversity is restored. I just can't be bothered. I don't find any of the early dueling champions fun and I will not gimp my teammates because I want to make Evelynn work. Balance team said they want to expand jungle diversity and end up doing the exact opposite. There was a post earlier this week on the board thanking riot for everything that they have done. I've had a lot of fun over the years but...I can't bring myself to thank them for anything at the moment. I'll get over it eventually but I still won't be playing. I wish every other player out there the best of luck. > > > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} welcome to the "I quit league until riot fixes their shit" club. we should design some T-shirts together {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=I Love Roses,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QVpc6qb9,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-05-19T02:23:31.415+0000) > > just get the fuck out of here, nobody wants you here Lol, and you think i care what random stranger who insults me want? i don't give a shit what u people think. i say what needs to be said. > First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— > Because I was not a Socialist. > > Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— > Because I was not a Trade Unionist. > > Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— > Because I was not a Jew. > > Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. > > -Martin Niemöller I stand for what is right, and if riot only listens to money and drops in playrate... then that is what is what i am going to do to make them listen. also... i said "i was boycotting _the game_ until they fixed thier shit" i never said i was leaving the _forums_ i WANT to go back to play, it is entirely in my interest to not only not play the game but convince other people not to put up with shit this too until riot LISTENS.
: This patch needs to be hot fixed or risk serious long term consequences
Or you know their could alienate their ENTIRE jungle player base just to speed things up a bit. i mean that only one role right? only roughly 20% of players? don't worry you'll live, maybe half of the junglers will stay will stay. some of us might even be willing to _come back_ if u get your shit together. but i know that's kinda dependent on you fixing your fucking shit.
Potchikir (EUW)
: Number of jungle champions - 40 Number of ADC champions - 17 Number of support champions - 25 Junglers champion pool is definetly not limited
> [{quoted}](name=Potchikir,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nce1phXE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-18T23:37:38.866+0000) > > Number of jungle champions - 40 > Number of ADC champions - 17 > Number of support champions - 25 > > Junglers champion pool is definetly not limited i think he means _viable_ champion pool becuase unless you have a god tier lvl 2 sucttle contest.. your fucked.. so that narrows its down to like.. {{champion:19}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:77}} and maybe one or two other
: Congrats riot, you made me quit league... again
lol a week? you think riot is going pull their head out of their ass in a WEEK? it took them the ENTIRETY of season 6 to remove dymanic que.. i dont expect to be back for at LEAST a couple patches, which should be long enough time for them to grow a pair. you got some damn high expectations of them. mine arn't that high, been playing for 5 years... i know better.
Joetri10 (EUW)
: Does the Jungle change confirm that Riot designates multiple teams to one patch without coms?
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Novalas,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=MQob4lFt,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2018-04-27T20:41:20.785+0000) > > While testing these changes, we've felt that there's adequate agency playing against for the first scuttle. Myself and the other jungler on the Playtest Team determined that ceding the scuttle is a solid option - Taking the first scuttle actually opens you up for a level 2 invade from the enemy jungler and can cause a jungler to get 3-buffed. > > You can defensive ward against it, ofc, but then you have a player advantage since their jungler is on the opposite side of the map taking scuttle. really? > Myself and the other jungler on the Playtest Team TWO OF YOU? there is what only TWO junglers at riot testing this shit. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}} that explains a lot {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: if you make it ranged only than kassadin fizz kat and diana cant use it
> [{quoted}](name=Loli Ravioli,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=niMW7Epl,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-05-18T11:20:04.777+0000) > > if you make it ranged only than kassadin fizz kat and diana cant use it then there are {{champion:76}} and {{champion:60}} who are both ranged and melee
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/MQob4lFt-upcoming-jungle-changes-for-810 Jungle experience is down early game: most notably this means that routes to level (3) are not as simple as going Buff -> Camp -> Buff. Instead, you hit 3 with the following routes: 2 standard camps and a Rift Scuttler 3 camps if you include a Krug clear 4 standard camps Yes it is very true LOL
> [{quoted}](name=JimTheSnail,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEEh0v7G,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-05-18T05:41:25.803+0000) > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/MQob4lFt-upcoming-jungle-changes-for-810 > > > Jungle experience is down early game: most notably this means that routes to level (3) are not as simple as going Buff -> Camp -> Buff. Instead, you hit 3 with the following routes: > 2 standard camps and a Rift Scuttler > 3 camps if you include a Krug clear > 4 standard camps > > > Yes it is very true LOL i have done th e clear myself like.. idk 8 times... u dont hit lvl 3... Maybe its some difference in real games as opposed to practice tool, idk. but it never ONCE hit me lvl 3 in practice tool
: 2 jungle camps + scuttle = 3? Like what xD
> [{quoted}](name=JimTheSnail,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEEh0v7G,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-05-18T05:29:03.497+0000) > > 2 jungle camps + scuttle = 3? Like what xD lol as if that was even true... i tested that on pbe on practice mode well before the chance ever went live. not a single route can hit you three with three camps without krugs, even WITH scutle crab u still needs to take at least part 4th camp to hit lvl 3 (like 2 small wolves or 1 big one or a couple raptors) and yeah we called thisd out to riot we told them what would happen they didn't listen and u wanty to know what they riot respocne was? > [{quoted}](name=Riot Novalas,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=MQob4lFt,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2018-04-27T20:41:20.785+0000) > > While testing these changes, we've felt that there's adequate agency playing against for the first scuttle. Myself and the other jungler on the Playtest Team determined that ceding the scuttle is a solid option - Taking the first scuttle actually opens you up for a level 2 invade from the enemy jungler and can cause a jungler to get 3-buffed. > > You can defensive ward against it, ofc, but then you have a player advantage since their jungler is on the opposite side of the map taking scuttle. btw that post has 155 downvotes on it show how much the other testers not part of the TWO FUCKING PEOPLE RIOT HAD WHO TESTED IT think of riots posts. TWO FUCKING PEOPLE THATS IT, YOU MAKE THIS CHANGE BASED ON TWO PEOPLE
: game has gone downhill since the good ol days of s3-s5
> [{quoted}](name=PlayerNo27,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=L6jcX48o,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-05-18T05:09:03.525+0000) > > game has gone downhill since the good ol days of s3-s5 i was still pretty much a noob until the very end of season 3 it wasn't until season 4 i really knew much. but yeah season 4 was amazing... i mean yeah the client is MUCH better now.. the graphics are better tons of shit is better now.. but the BALANCE of season 4 was great. i mean sure there were some pretty awful patches. here and there.. but i was just estatic all season... i had my main {{champion:76}} reworked into everything i could have possible hoped for. not onyl was she still a great mid, but her top becuase viable and almost certainly OP and even support nid was great... season 5 i was rather unhappy with the keystone changes.. and then then threw laning nidalee under the buss and ran her over a couple time just to make sure she was well and truly dead. and i go pissed enough to quit league for 8 months. which sadly. i have had to do yet again. i HATE doing this. i just want to PLAY the game. but jungle is LITERALLY unplayable. and my other role of support is flat out bugged, and while i was doing bug testing to see if i can replicate the bug. im not going to do that for them if they are going out of their way to fuck up their game. there is literally nothing i can play that isn't worthless {{champion:76}} 100% banned {{champion:19}} or bugged (basically all of support becuase we dont know what the issue is) and i can only support for so long before i want to play my main role of jungle... which i now cant do. becuase unless u have plat level adc kiting mechanics you cannot safely start W 2nd as nidalee which flat out means she is 100% fucked because without W she cannot trade. meaning any person with half a brain cell can invade her and push her off scuttle and completly out of her jungle. and im not going to go thru that.. despite how long i have been dying to use the new {{item:1039}}
: honestly it felt like a step in the right direction jungler and bot lane just have to much power to effect the out come of the game
> [{quoted}](name=Bazooka Blade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9V5jyvVc,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-05-18T00:20:57.457+0000) > > honestly it felt like a step in the right direction jungler and bot lane just have to much power to effect the out come of the game junglers affect the game because bot lanes DECIDES the game.. and the jungle is the role that has the most infulence bot lane outside the bot laners themselves i play jungle and support. and right now i cant play support becuase at any time i could be flat out prevented from buying items do to a bug. and now jungle is completely ruined. because riot wouldn't listen to what HUNDREDS of people told them would be a bad idea every single thing i spelled out would happen because of that change happened... and even more i didn't see coming and know what? the ONLY thing i did on pbe was "paratice tool" with it. i didnt even JOIN a pvp game. and yet it took me ONE game to realize how fucking broken the lvl 2 duelers would be is riot that THAT fucking incompetent that they couldn't see the EXACT same thing.. i dont think so... you CAN'T have an ENTIRE team with EVERYONE being a complete moron. the problem is no one has the FUCKING BALLS to tell thier "supervisor" that thier idea is COMPLETE BULLSHIT Riot. you want to know why bot decided the game? because u made ADC op... you want to know why supports do too much damage? because u have the support tree of inspiration MORE damage than the sorcery tree, because u made SHIT that was OP. becuase YOU choose to instead of nerfnig the other classes in season 6 backed to a balanced state to match adc to BUFF adc and damage creep everthing was + healing and shielding not enough fo a clue that damage was too high? was having to add {{item:3193}} so even TANKS could survive not enough of an indication damage was too high?.. NO you choose to bloody fucking ignore the obvious. i honestly dont know who the fuck is in charge. YOU ARE LOSING PLAYING!!! you have ADVERTISEMENT videos. trying to get new people runed reforged only hurt long time players to make it easier for fresh new players to join. you are trying to change the game to get more people in. but by doing so completely alienating everyone who already loves the game. you completely remove the abiloity for junglers to ward with trackers knife, ingore how ti affect all lower elo jungler who have to ward for thier team becuase no one else will and support if damage creep.. if inspeacation damage wasn't enough you have to go and remove sightstone... DO U EVEN THINK???? you did TWO things 1. remove 800 worth of gold the support has to spend 2. remove the support from having to complete thier support item past t2 and this does what? well let me spell it out for you... it makes support build thier next CORE items about 2300 gold FASTER than they used it before that change. support gold income hast increased... you just flat out REMOVED EVERY ITEM support PRIORITIZED over damage. and at the same spot made allowed us a 6th item slot and guess what now "supports deal too much damage" WELL OF COURSE WE FUCKING DO!!!! ALL WE HAVE TO DO NOW IS GRAB A {{item:3098}} AND BUILD FULL MAGE!!! 1600 ruby sightstone? dont need rushing{{item:3312}} for active? nope because we need a entirely new item for that its better to just get core items first sure CERTAIN changes cant be predicted, NO ONE could have seen by adding hunted on jungle camps nidalle would become and absolute moster in the jungle in season 5 with ZERO changes done to any damage on her kit. and riot i dont blame u for missing thing like that.. i CAN'T NO ONE could see that coming.. NO ONE could have warned you. BUT THIS??? you had WEEKS of notice. HUNDREDS of people telling you this change was bad, AND you choose to IGNORE IT ALL!!! # THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID IN SEASON 6 WITH DYNAMIC QUE you IGNORE everyone who points out every single flaw. and its not just ONE flaws..its MULTIPLE MASSIVE flaws. and whats next patch? i would have gotten to look forward to pyke who has an ultimate that is so clearly op i question if u even have an internal testing phase before pbe. the jungle changes are so horrifically bad that it amazed me it even go past the brainstorming phase. and yeah there are GOOD changes this patch too.. the {{item:1039}} woudl be an absolute GODSEND to ap jungler EXCEPT it does NOTHING because the games are flat out decided by w/e jungler gets the fucking crab. here is a metaphor for you... you are holding this game uy buy a chain over a chasm.. and it doesn't matter if strengthen one part of the chain, if you decided to saw 90% of the way through a different link. THE WEAKEST LINK DECIDES. its been like that IN-GAME for nearly 2 seasons, games in my elo are decided based on w/e team gets the moron.. i mean sure every so often u get a great game.. and thats fine.. for normals.. IDK i could complain about endless things.. i could congratulate riot on endless things.. but the fact remains. your balance team. has been your weakest link for a LONG time.. riot... and that link just broke...
Mcsquzzy (NA)
: Leapard Nidalee was one of the skins I bought the year I started this game, still love her and wish to see her more
> [{quoted}](name=Mcsquzzy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9V5jyvVc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-17T23:58:55.840+0000) > > Leapard Nidalee was one of the skins I bought the year I started this game, still love her and wish to see her more funny part is my OTHER jungler.. is ( or i guess i should start using the _past_ tense now...) WAS {{champion:19}} the jungler in the game that benefits MOST from this change (well.. excluding the permaban status). i just hope this hiatus from ends up being a short one...
Rioter Comments
: With the new Jg Changes it might be time to change how Kindred's marks work
... no... kindrid marks arn't the issue.. the issue is riot stupid fucking change that needs to flat out be reverted. i will literally not play this game again until this shit is fixed, yeah kindrid is completely fucked... about 30 more junglers also just go completely fucked by this. the only thing comparably as bad as this change riot has done is "dynamic que" that is the ONLY thing that beats this out in terms of complete stupidity. i dont like giving riot a hard time i really don't they do some great stuff. but their balance team is composed of complete fucking morons or the people in change silence the people who speak up against thier insanity, and the same people have either left the company or are now too scared to talk back to thier supervisors. congrats riot. you finally did what you managed to do in season 5... you made me quit. last time it took you 8 months until i came back. how long are u planning on waiting until fixing your fucking bullshit this time. becuase i am flat out not playing this game with this change here. i warned you.. EVERYONE fucking warned you. but nooo YOU DON'T FUCKING LISTEN. and yeah.. i am swearing... congrats.. u ACTULLY got me to swear at you... you want to know why? BECUASE I FUCKING CARE. I LIKE THIS GAME. and i have to fucking stop playing it because you CHOOSE to make it COMPLETE SHIT. AND THAT FUCKING PISSES ME OFF RIOT. Whoever is in charge of your balance team.. whatever complete fucking moron lets this jungle exp change through. congrats.. u completely alienated over 1/5th of your playerbase. you want to know what i see your your "youtube channel" ADVERTISEMENTS FOR LEAGUE you want to know what you NEVER had to do in the past ADVERTISE like that. and u know.. what.. i am going to go out of my way to WARM people about how much your balance team is a group of fucking morons who wont stand up for what is correct and what is needed in this game. you have ONE game riot... JUST ONE. your ENTIRE COMPANY is based around LEAGUE. do u REALLY think you can pull shit like this? and not face consequences? im only one player yeah. but guess what. i talk to people. i will NOT play your game until you fix your shit. i have done it before. don't believe me? check my match history from season 5. i certainly hope u can get your shit together soon, because i really enjoyed this game..
: Update on Master Tier on new silver account
seems about right... games in silver are pretty much decided before u even pick your champions based on what teammates u get... its why i stop playing ranked.. hell as of this patch i stopped playing league in general... not playing with these jungle changes.
Doge2020 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=blackops III,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qv5MIvUo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-17T20:28:43.854+0000) > > na it should work like that. I always dodge when I get support. If you have a problem with it you should dodge too. Explain to me what you think Akashic’s post is about. I’m actually curious to see if we are looking at this from the same viewpoint.
> [{quoted}](name=Doge2020,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qv5MIvUo,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-05-17T20:54:41.743+0000) > > Explain to me what you think Akashic’s post is about. I’m actually curious to see if we are looking at this from the same viewpoint. i really don't think they was much "thinking" involved in his case... or reading for that matter.. also to address the OP, even as a support secondary... yeah that is stupid, if they is a remake or a dodge you should not be placed into autofill.
: Can we get Warwick nerfed already?
... its not {{champion:19}} fault.. its the damn jungle changes...
: Jungle is ruined, league is ruined. Season 8 killed it, thanks Riot for always fixing stuff that was never broken in the first place. Uninstalling this fucking game.
> [{quoted}](name=Yung Kaioken,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WiLAWa4Q,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-05-16T17:50:48.835+0000) > > Jungle is ruined, league is ruined. Season 8 killed it, thanks Riot for always fixing stuff that was never broken in the first place. Uninstalling this fucking game. im not quite uninstalling it, _yet_, but I'm certainly not PLAYING it. I'll probably give riot a patch to undo this shit.
: A message from jg in this meta to every laner
a message from your would-be be jungler to who would have been my laner... I'm sorry, I cant come join your game right now.. but leave me your role and champion and I'll return to the rift and soon as jungling is possible.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bigrig107,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IPnq2TUk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-17T20:12:39.012+0000) > > You’re kidding right? Lanes still aren’t decided by the laners, they’re decided by whichever jungler got the most scuttlecrabs. > > They’re not just bad for junglers, they’re bad for you too. hey id rather have the shitheads killing crabs than camping in my bush for 2 minutes.
> [{quoted}](name=inferïor jungler,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IPnq2TUk,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-05-17T20:14:32.376+0000) > > hey id rather have the shitheads killing crabs than camping in my bush for 2 minutes. there you are riot... this is the example of a person who thought your change was a good idea. if that alone isn't enough to tell you how shitty this change is... idk what is..
: New jungle screws over any jungler that can't duel at level 2
is ne1 going to answer that??? BECAUSE I FUCKING CALLED IT
Rioter Comments
: Feels that its Futures Market causing the problem. I've had it happened when I saw Items were buyable (lit up), when in fact I didn't have enough gold to buy em. But u can't actually click and buy. Afterwards when I did have enough gold, I could buy them.
> [{quoted}](name=Fraggleroc,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=qyiosgtA,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2018-05-17T18:19:53.911+0000) > > Feels that its Futures Market causing the problem. I've had it happened when I saw Items were buyable (lit up), when in fact I didn't have enough gold to buy em. But u can't actually click and buy. Afterwards when I did have enough gold, I could buy them. that was my first assumption, but i don't think that by itself is the issue, it an interaction of different things, what i can say the difference between the game i did have it and the games i didnt have it was i specifically remember selling an item to make room for another item
Ragnarooss (EUNE)
: movement skills/abilities
not evey champ needs to be mobile... in fact CC creep is a lot worse than mobility creep. at one point in time there were 8 Corki, Ezreal, Fiora, Katarina, Master Yi, Mordekaiser, Nidalee, Sivir. and im pretty sure we are down to 6 now becuase of changes to {{champion:42}} and {{champion:114}} so yeah...
ThePikol (EUNE)
: Will we see mid becoming duo lane after all these changes?
i read this thread as "how badly can riot fuck up the game with one change everyone fucking said was horrible"
: I miss Tracker's Knife - but not for the wards...
: I am surpised that no one is talking about the horrific jungle exp change
: Well .01% is clearly an exaggeration. I'm not sure if it is clear that that is the verdict that it is that uncommon. Reading the posts some people have experienced it multiple times. People have seen it in games where it didn't happen to them but an ally. I've seen it at least 2 times in my games. Then again, I don't play a terrible amount. That being said they've disabled rare game breaking bugs before (Xerath comes to mind where only 1 or two people were using it). They've disabled champions that could exploit even though only 1 person was doing it, so extremely extremely rare, but they disabled it. Then we have to have a consensus on how rare it needs to be before action has to be taken? Not sure. It's all just speculation, but it is really game breaking to not be able to buy items. I'd probably word it differently too, but it is an extremely #FeelsBadMan moment.
> [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ej495V1w,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-05-16T15:02:38.718+0000) > > Well .01% is clearly an exaggeration. I'm not sure if it is clear that that is the verdict that it is that uncommon. Reading the posts some people have experienced it multiple times. People have seen it in games where it didn't happen to them but an ally. I've seen it at least 2 times in my games. Then again, I don't play a terrible amount. > > That being said they've disabled rare game breaking bugs before (Xerath comes to mind where only 1 or two people were using it). They've disabled champions that could exploit even though only 1 person was doing it, so extremely extremely rare, but they disabled it. Then we have to have a consensus on how rare it needs to be before action has to be taken? Not sure. It's all just speculation, but it is really game breaking to not be able to buy items. > > I'd probably word it differently too, but it is an extremely #FeelsBadMan moment. i 100% agree, but i think part of the issue is, if they don't know what is causing it.. how can they know what to disable? other than disabling ranked entirely.
: Can we confirm that it's support item quest related and/or whether it's a specific support item? It has only happened once for me when I was playing support Lux and I did have a quest completed for Frostfang, but my immediate thought was not that it was an issue with my support item but an issue with the shop registering current gold and/or items because I had components for Oblivion Orb but it was grey and would not let me buy it for less than the 1500g that I did not have (I could however sell my components for the gold and buy Oblivion Orb, undoing sales did not fix the bug, though I did not try selling my support item b/c I was concerned whether it would reset my quest or not and I was in ranked). The issue persisted when I came back to finish Morello, but items like Void Staff were highlighted as purchasable with gold I did not have but I could not actually purchase the items. https://i.imgur.com/RbcSPJc.jpg
> [{quoted}](name=ShadowGlaive213,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ej495V1w,comment-id=000f00020000,timestamp=2018-05-17T04:30:58.154+0000) > > Can we confirm that it's support item quest related and/or whether it's a specific support item? It has only happened once for me when I was playing support Lux and I did have a quest completed for Frostfang, but my immediate thought was not that it was an issue with my support item but an issue with the shop registering current gold and/or items because I had components for Oblivion Orb but it was grey and would not let me buy it for less than the 1500g that I did not have (I could however sell my components for the gold and buy Oblivion Orb, undoing sales did not fix the bug, though I did not try selling my support item b/c I was concerned whether it would reset my quest or not and I was in ranked). The issue persisted when I came back to finish Morello, but items like Void Staff were highlighted as purchasable with gold I did not have but I could not actually purchase the items. > > https://i.imgur.com/RbcSPJc.jpg what i noticed in my game also as support lux (3 days ago) was i had sold an item (the red pots at like 14:22 or w/e that was in the match history) it could be related to that, maybe selling an item triggers it, in conjunction with some other thing. i had to see the pots to make room it first occured when trying to complete ardent. or i could have somthing to do with having an full inventory when trying to purchase idk... thats was the lastr thing i remember before my mind was torn away with "WTF why cant i buy my item"
: is lux klepto any good im just asking
> [{quoted}](name=LichKing234,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=qyiosgtA,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-05-17T03:50:55.641+0000) > > is lux klepto any good im just asking i find it to be amazing, because of the way her passive work, your pretty much want to weave in autos every trade anyways and becuase it also procs {{item:3310}} better. in a losing match-up its pretty worthless, but i only pick lux as a support into a match i know they can't abuse me with hard cc. most of the time i play morg support as its a safer all around pick that u can pick blind into anything,, i poretty much never go lux without seeing thier suport pick first and verying its not something like {{champion:53}} {{champion:412}} or {{champion:89}} but into specific things lux is VERY good, you just need to be able to safely auto without getting chunked
: I had an enemy Nidalee jungle and Teemo top complain that my friend was playing Kayle top because of her ult and auto attacks. "I wish I could play point and click champions." , said the Nidalee, to which my friend replied, "Then do it duh." People have the choice to pick whatever they want and always find an excuse as to why they're losing lane instead of trying to learn to do better in the matchup for the next time.
> [{quoted}](name=Wisteriå,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pq9gObos,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-16T14:41:50.423+0000) > > I had an enemy Nidalee jungle and Teemo top complain that my friend was playing Kayle top because of her ult and auto attacks. "I wish I could play point and click champions." , said the Nidalee, to which my friend replied, "Then do it duh." People have the choice to pick whatever they want and always find an excuse as to why they're losing lane instead of trying to learn to do better in the matchup for the next time. i can relate to that nidalee, i also play nidalee.. and i also wish i could play point and click champions people think "oh its point and click, so its easy" no it's really not ADC is the ONE role i cant play because i dont have the mechanics to kite. this isnt somthing that takes SKILL , it take mechanics and click accuracy. neither of which i have what i DO have is the ability to watch and enemy, learn their movements and land a skillshot. i can see an enemy walk into fog of war and still hit them with a spear about 75% of the time base on the default pathing riot would go and thier optimal escape route and thier current movement speed. these are two different things.. i can play nidalee because i can outsmart my opponent, but i can never have the click accuracy or orbwalking skills as it takes to play adc or point and click champsions i have game extensive knowledge, and i use that to my advantage because i know my actual mechanics suck. now i dont think i am the nidalee in question but like i said.. i can certainly relate to her. most skillshot champs are NOT mechanically intensive at all, they take KNOWLEDGE, where as point and click champs are more based on mechanics and less reliant on game knowledge. so IMO the nidalee was just saying that she wish she had better mechanics.
: what was the ashe hack? my favorite hack moments were global xerath q and the infinite BOTRK
> [{quoted}](name=Giggle Physics,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=qyiosgtA,comment-id=000e0000,timestamp=2018-05-16T19:44:11.791+0000) > > what was the ashe hack? > > my favorite hack moments were global xerath q and the infinite BOTRK basically {{champion:22}} could hack her game to bug her teammates to change thier spells to another spell so {{champion:268}} Q (his sand soldiers) would instead spawn his passive turret https://youtu.be/ennb7gh8rbE?t=87
: We're definitely looking into this, and have had teams hammering away to try to get a repro case for us, but we've turned up empty so far. I put out a call for help on Twitter last week which unfortunately didn't yield results other than people expressing that it happened to them and with rough potential repro steps which didn't end up being consistent. We know that the actually occurrence of this event is super low, but do know that when this happens it's incredibly painful and impactful to your game. Anytime the way you fix a problem is to reboot your client in the middle of the game something is definitely wrong. We're working on it, and will fix it as soon as we can.
> [{quoted}](name=Maple Nectar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Ej495V1w,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-05-16T19:32:36.241+0000) > > We're definitely looking into this, and have had teams hammering away to try to get a repro case for us, but we've turned up empty so far. I put out a call for help on Twitter last week which unfortunately didn't yield results other than people expressing that it happened to them and with rough potential repro steps which didn't end up being consistent. > > We know that the actually occurrence of this event is super low, but do know that when this happens it's incredibly painful and impactful to your game. Anytime the way you fix a problem is to reboot your client in the middle of the game something is definitely wrong. We're working on it, and will fix it as soon as we can. Thank you for this response, i greatly appreciate you have acknowledged this bug, and even more so the insight you have provided that you are having trouble reproducing it. this not only gives people like myself reassurance that you are doing everything u can to fix this but it mean we as player could still provide useful data to try to fix this. So you have my thanks for your response. and now to you my forum members, riot seems to have trouble reproducing this. lets see if we solve that for them. I hereby challenge everyone reading this, find a way to reproduce this, because it about damn time this community did something to try to help fix things rather than just point them out, and complain. We now have that power. we can actually help them with something they need help with. #SO LETS DO THIS!!!
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