: Matchmaking is done based on MMR, not mastery -- because you haven't picked a champion before entering the game, so it doesn't know if you're about to play that new champion you bought or your old main. The system also doesn't care if you have 10,000,000 points or 0 on a champion -- it just cares about where your account's MMR is.
Still does not address the issue that many people are having playing against smurfs. Smurfs take the place of a player that is supposed to be in that game instead of the smurf.
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: Im so happy Eu didnt get the new role ranks, such a flawed system
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcSnipeyz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TJTEkyvu,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-02-10T11:48:32.626+0000) > > Im so happy Eu didnt get the new role ranks, such a flawed system You are not wrong.
: > [{quoted}](name=TU Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZPssdbPA,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-02-12T20:05:29.482+0000) > > Honestly your comment is just venting anger I'm glad you can get it out constructively here. I actually wanna know what makes you think ardent meta is back when adcs are still not as strong as they were before the nerfs they received???
With recent itemization especially to crit items adcs are stronger. The supports are no longer buffing the adcs to an extent like the Real Ardent meta. Now the Meta is resembling that same playstyle but its not the supports. Adc's do not rely on ardent in this meta and its true. Adc's now get ad faster and with faster games they hit power spikes that cause stat checks that other roles can't.
: {{champion:117}} shield is only 2.5 seconds so more like a mini gun with a low ammo capacity
Thank you, for this post. IT did help a lot in seeing that the power isn't lulu when buffing an adc it is the adc that's just attacking faster do to what I think to be itemization and gold for ad.
: What about the Lulu + Yi strat in season 8? Enchanter and hypercarry is a viable strat. If the carry is adc, apc or melee doesnt matter
> [{quoted}](name=Pls Gift me RP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZPssdbPA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-12T18:42:41.574+0000) > > What about the Lulu + Yi strat in season 8? > > Enchanter and hypercarry is a viable strat. If the carry is adc, apc or melee doesnt matter This is exactly how ardent played but now its not that lulu is buffing yi to much its now that yi is strong. Same principle as if a nami buffs a strong draven. Thank you though this example helped me see that you are correct that lulu yi is very viable. And that its not the support that makes the adc. Its the adc that makes the support.
Alzon (NA)
: you forgot bardent censer
: Didn't knew that {{champion:81}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:119}} were strong in the Ardent meta. Maybe my memory is getting worse because the current meta doesn't remind me to Ardent at all.
Thank you for saying this because you were right. Its not hyper carry champs in the games as adc over all especially these three can gain gold fast for fast ad.
: > Ardent meta was about enchanter supports, not ADCs no all 3 were a problem ardent was busted as were enchanters but lets not forget most adcs were far stronger with (zeal and a bf) than mages who were stacking a tear most of the time
Thank you for discussing this post helped me see the game better.
: My god. Just because Adc is playable again doesn’t mean we are in the ardent meta. Jesus Christ you people just wanna cry.
Honestly your comment is just venting anger I'm glad you can get it out constructively here.
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: > [{quoted}](name=TU Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zi8wFWEG,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-09T21:33:19.027+0000) > > I cant say I've enjoyed but a couple games of ranked this season. The tower plating has put to much gold into the early game along with the bounty system. Now more than ever I feel that games are more decided in champion select than they are by gameplay. Quality of matches are very low as well. Maybe it is just my games but I think that patch 9.3 is just the tip of the iceberg for a bad ranked season of league. > > I have given a lot of thoughts on positional rankings as well. They only seem to make matchmaking worse. I don't ever feel that I am playing with team mates that are competent on the roles. It now makes people in secondary roles play with less intensity than if they had there main. While I like the idea of having a rank for each role. It now makes games less competitive do to the fact that an individual ranking instead of an overall doesn't hold a player responsible for how they play. > > Lane matchups are not decided by skill of players its decided by how much damage a champion does. Sure they are still outplays to be made but only if your champion has the kit for it. (or if your champ was made by certainlyT you can outplay) cough > > If your team is behind in the first fifteen minutes. your behind for probably the rest of the game do to the fact that there is more gold available in the early game than ever before in league thanks to plating and bounties. It is now near impossible to stall a game even with wave clear champs do to the fact that towers are very weak. > > Now more than ever is the pace of league becoming to fast. While league has been becoming a faster paced game for years now. It is now so noticeable that the original style league is non existent. The tower plating was put into to elongate laning phase but has actually proven to only speed up the game. Laning phase in theory is to last till 14 minutes till towers plating fades but laning phase feels as if it only last ten minutes before the early game skirmishing starts. With the minion speed change as well, its clear to see that the pacing of game is made to be fast. > > While decisive victories by good players with a few mistakes should be a fast game. On the other hand three deaths in the first 10 on your team shouldn't spell a loss. > > I miss when nobody surrendered at 20 minutes and there was room for macro play. No season has been healthy. We hear the same BS every season because whiny players whine about anything and everything and can't adapt. If you don't like it then go play something else. IT"S THAT SIMPLE.
Well i play this game collegiately so I do adapt and play what the meta dictates so dont tell me i can just quit when my scholarship is riding on me playing. The game is becoming more and more of a moblie moba instead of an actual rts by todays standards.
: I chin in to disagree. Turret plating was actually the best thing we could hope for, and it has upped the quality of our games quite noticeably. Let's be very honest from the start: Riot wants to speed up the game. Be it Tencent, be it Korean cafe culture, be it the need to appeal to casuals/younglings, **that is their corporate decision and they will never back down to it.** They are slowly but deliberately doing it since 3 years. Systemic changes all lead to this very goal. To a certain degree, if this is the future they envision for the game, it is legit for them to pursue it. We might not like it, but that's fine. We can leave and cherish the good memories on lol, and move on. It is their game after all. The issue with speeding up the game is not the idea of speeding up the game, it is how incompetently it has been implemented. I believe that the best talents at Riot were moved to legends of runeterra development a long time ago. The clueless were left behind in charge of lol with the order to make the game faster, year by year... And the brightest way they came up with was to: - remove "tanking" as a concept - increasing damage - tenfolding snowball The quality of the game plummeted so fucking hard in S6, S7, and S8 it's unreal. **Games were decided solely by early advantages, macro play was non-existent, damage was the only thing that mattered and game were never won, but only lost by the worst player on either team**. They sped up the game by increasing every means of winning the game: turrets became paper, Baron became immense, lane phase shortened, midgame expanded, lategame disappeared, killing was frequent and rewarding. The game was utter shit, because it was standard league of legends, but with unbalanced and artificially bloated aspects. They're not going back. Never. But they have finally started band-aid fixing the problems arose with those years of forced acceleration. Turret plating extends lane, albeit artificially, albeit adding even extra snowball if taken down. But snowball itself is mitigated by high bounties, allowing a comeback, albeit, again, artificially. The game is still getting faster, but now there are new mechanics that account for it, and the game is far more fair and interesting.
I like everything you said except "Turret plating was actually the best thing we could hope for, and it has upped the quality of our games quite noticeably." It has downgraded games imo as the early game gold from platings inflates early leads instead of cs leads and skillfull play.
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: Can we talk about the Leblanc chain range though? You can't even flash out of it sometimes.... Also the akali nerfs are laughable...
Leblanc chain range I agree with needs a change but the akali nerf will be pretty big.
: Well, not only the minions, but this supposed artificial elongation of laning with the turret armor doesn't seem to change much to me. Games still seem to happen just as quickly as they did before the preseason, and the turret armor only seems to add more options for snowballing, combined with the new bounty system that gets you a bounty for doing normal game things. Overall, this preseason is a huge dud and a huge letdown, it doesn't actually seem to fix any of the problems that have been talked about, and in a lot of cases, it exacerbates too many existing problems.
Yes the turret plating was put into to stop snowballing by elongating lane phase as you said but the fact the economy is so misbalanced on the turret plating it causes a harder snowball.
BiasZebra (EUW)
: > >It is at the point that getting an inhibitor in one lane forces an opponent or player there That's...sort of...the whole point. The whole point of inhibs is that each is worth a player. That's why inhibs are a top priority objective, it denies other objectives.
Yes but in comparison to last season if your inhibitor was down you could push the wave out and then rotate out but with the minion changes you are forced to stay in the lane.
: Everyone be like "it's just preseason, wait until the season starts" "Can't do anything now during the holidays" "The season just started, wait until midseason" "Midseason now, just wait, it will come" "They can't change anything now, Worlds is coming" "So Worlds is over. Wait until preseason comes*
I am afraid of this. I don't care that is the thanksgiving holidays if riot doesn't want to put the foot forward to improve the game towards better gameplay I will put my foot forward towards advocacy towards other games.
: Minion speed change ruins late game
Also regular minion pressure just allows enemy team to trap you in base if they are ahead.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Anìmê,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sYAE2p53,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-23T19:48:04.226+0000) > > First off it is the first patch of the preseason so they have a good amount of time to fix some issues that you addressed and other issues. They did some huge changes that they will need time to adjust to make work. Turret changes are huge and will need adjusting and same with minion changes. That is no excuse. Once a new season comes out, they should already be thinking ahead in the future on next season. This balance team is lazy.
Thank you. and I just don't know what there balance team does or who is on it. I wish the balance team would at least give us some updates.
: First off it is the first patch of the preseason so they have a good amount of time to fix some issues that you addressed and other issues. They did some huge changes that they will need time to adjust to make work. Turret changes are huge and will need adjusting and same with minion changes.
Yes it is the first patch but the preseason was suppose to address some issues that the community has been highlighting since season 8 and they have made the issues more prevalent.
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: So, is that why people think League is on the D-Klein?
Kat1 (NA)
: if league ever dies, it will be to a new moba, not another game. the odds are low.
> [{quoted}](name=SomeKat,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2zAEgG2T,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-09T00:45:32.318+0000) > > if league ever dies, it will be to a new moba, not another game. the odds are low. This isn't about the game becoming obsolete to some new game I'm just saying the only thing that keeps me playing is my obligation to play. If I didn't have my obligation I'd move to tekken full time.
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Hotarµ (NA)
: Were you in URF, Aram, or norms/ranked?
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: It doesn't, and yet it does so anyway. We've dedicated tens of millions in prosthetic limb research and development. This lends itself to an argument I made in another post where a man was offended by my allusion to wolves: The more humanity as adapted and grown, the more it has _chosen_ to support the weakest among them. We could apply all that time, money and manpower that goes into prosthetics research into... any number of fields propping up the best of mankind. Space programs. State pensions for beloved singers and actors. Infrastructure projects that allow entrepreneurs private roadways that allow them to get to and from their places of business more efficiently, leading to greater profits and greater private sector yields. But instead, humanity spends this time and money helping people without hands, or feet, or limbs, to function better in society. Because one day, that kid without hands might go on with their prosthetic appendages to author some society-shaping treatise. Or to compose music that alters a generation's mindset. Or to be a superb firefighter who saves dozens of lives. Abandoning the weak is nonsense, and wolves recognized this ages before humans did. Fortunately, humans are catching on.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hibeki,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=arjvFu4R,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2018-03-28T00:38:53.296+0000) > > Still terrible analogy. If one wolf sucks it will be left behind and eventually die if it cant be put into high gear. Not join another pack like this game. First of all, let's get this out of the way: Wolves invite outsiders to their pack. It happens. It's not ideal and it's not commonplace, but if there's a sense that the pack is understaffed for whatever reason when an outsider wanders into the territory, the will absolutely hunt with that outsider. So yes, wolves can in fact join another pack. More pertinently, we're talking about different things. You're discussing the long term "survival" of carrying yourself to high ELO. I'm discussing the short term "survival" of winning a game in which you have a poignantly bad player on your team.
Show us your biology degree or animal behavior degree but face it no one likes the wolves thing.
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Anatera (NA)
: All towers could use fortification at this point.
You are not wrong, There is no way to turtle effectively now because of it.
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: Why i dont like people in there ranked placements in my games.
Fair enough but if they cost me games its hard to climb.
Mcemc (EUW)
: Your ranked matchmaking system is absolute MESS.
I get people in their ranked placements and you can tell they don't belong at your elo. Even if it is only silver.
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: Illaoi E hitbox invisible
I have had this happen on three separate occasions
: Do you know why people continut to ask for the old Tribunal, over and over? Because it felt right!
I just had the same thing happen to me where a twitch was doing bad had no damage and made little impact blamed his support and me the jg.
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: This may be the forums, but you're still dealing with the LoL community in the end. If you expect maturity and thoughtful discussion you are going to be severely disappointed more often than not.
I know and that's what I'm getting at. I mean If I posted something like YASUO NERF PLS Id understand all the flak.
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: > [{quoted}](name=The Mindless God,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cb136Fqd,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2016-11-20T06:57:48.346+0000) > > I never said he got banned but Skyaldehart has posted the post of him being told that his off meta pick is basically for his suspension. I didn't say he got banned It's not the reason. You can understand and accept that or not. Your name right now is fitting. Totally mindless to think you can shove an IF A then C argument down our throats.
I just think now that when people don't have anything else to bring up they point out my name.I mean I just wanted to have a conversation about the idea that if you play something new or fresh your only met with and unchanging meta oriented environment that doesn't allow for growth. Everyone is just so hostile I'm not here demanding anything all I want is to actually have a conversation about a game I play. That's like me saying I don't think you were ready or that your the first player or something.
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: False premise, false logic and untrue. Stop bringing up this troll post. He didn't get a ban for playing an off meta pick. No one has ever been banned for that... including this guy.
> [{quoted}](name=ReadyxPlayerxOne,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cb136Fqd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-19T19:15:14.780+0000) > > False premise, false logic and untrue. > > Stop bringing up this troll post. > > He didn't get a ban for playing an off meta pick. No one has ever been banned for that... including this guy. I never said he got banned but Skyaldehart has posted the post of him being told that his off meta pick is basically for his suspension. I didn't say he got banned
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