: [Spoiler Megathread] Avengers: Infinity War
Am I the only person who wasn't effected by the "deaths" except like minus Loki's at the start, everybody else is all "I am shook" ect and here I am going "well that was fun."
Zabam (NA)
: Where can I go to have an unbiased discussion about a rioter?
You're never going to find an unbiased opinion because whether people love them or hate them people have a biased opinion, however if you have a complaint I do suggest you take it to those above the person in question.
Jikker (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Taeseuk,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0bB3gn75,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-05-03T14:33:12.190+0000) > > It makes sense and with the msi stuff they have given me a way of supporting the region that I actually do support which I have done but this isn't the first time they have made it region based as stated to the previous comment. I get that most people will support their region especially since it's easier for them to watch/understand/get behind etc but like with the all stars event where I was forced to pick people from a league I know nothing about it made little sense to me to be forced to do it. I think with the picks, they had to find some way to limit it so people from other regions couldn't use their accounts to vote for multiple people that wouldn't be as good or something so that they couldn't skew the results. That's just my thought and I'm not sure if that's the reason or if Riot just wanted to keep things simple on their end. It does make sense to me in the case of All Stars that you should be able to vote for the region you support and follow and want to see do their best.
> [{quoted}](name=Jikker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0bB3gn75,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-03T14:37:16.510+0000) > > I think with the picks, they had to find some way to limit it so people from other regions couldn't use their accounts to vote for multiple people that wouldn't be as good or something so that they couldn't skew the results. That's just my thought and I'm not sure if that's the reason or if Riot just wanted to keep things simple on their end. It does make sense to me in the case of All Stars that you should be able to vote for the region you support and follow and want to see do their best. Maybe, it was just frustrating at the time, luckily I do watch worlds and was able to put a "team" together based on how they played there which isn't really the best way to judge a person because worlds is a whole lot different to how they do all year round and a player can have a good year but a bad worlds and vise versa. I get it if they were trying to prevent people from outside the region from being able to sabotage the other regions but maybe allow people to pick which 1 region they want to vote for instead it would make more sense for people to be able to support the region they watch {In my case the lck which I watch every game of and know the players strengths and weaknesses very well} instead.
Jikker (NA)
: By default, people are gonna support the region they are in, especially if they don't really follow esports. It makes sense that if you're going to give out an icon for free, you'd give the one most people want which is the one for their region. If they don't want to support their region, then they most likely follow and support esports enough that 250 RP to support someone else is no problem at all. It's kinda like here in Colorado, I'm going to see a lot of Bronco's gear for sale in stores during football season because most people living in Colorado are Bronco fans. Since I'm not originally from Colorado, I'm a Ravens fan and their gear is a bit harder to come by if at all so since I care enough to support my team, I pay the bit extra to order stuff rather than just run down to the local Target and grab a cheap shirt. I know it's not the same as a free icon and using it to actually support the team for benefits, but it's the same idea and logic as to why Riot is giving it for the region you are playing in. Does that make sense?
> [{quoted}](name=Jikker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0bB3gn75,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-03T14:25:31.443+0000) > > By default, people are gonna support the region they are in, especially if they don't really follow esports. It makes sense that if you're going to give out an icon for free, you'd give the one most people want which is the one for their region. If they don't want to support their region, then they most likely follow and support esports enough that 250 RP to support someone else is no problem at all. > > It's kinda like here in Colorado, I'm going to see a lot of Bronco's gear for sale in stores during football season because most people living in Colorado are Bronco fans. Since I'm not originally from Colorado, I'm a Ravens fan and their gear is a bit harder to come by if at all so since I care enough to support my team, I pay the bit extra to order stuff rather than just run down to the local Target and grab a cheap shirt. I know it's not the same as a free icon and using it to actually support the team for benefits, but it's the same idea and logic as to why Riot is giving it for the region you are playing in. > > Does that make sense? It makes sense and with the msi stuff they have given me a way of supporting the region that I actually do support which I have done but this isn't the first time they have made it region based as stated to the previous comment. I get that most people will support their region especially since it's easier for them to watch/understand/get behind etc but like with the all stars event where I was forced to pick people from a league I know nothing about it made little sense to me to be forced to do it.
SSmotzer (NA)
: Can't you buy the icons of the teams from other regions?
> [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0bB3gn75,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-03T14:25:00.378+0000) > > Can't you buy the icons of the teams from other regions? You can which I have done but having the na and eu icons still means I am showing support to those teams, it isn't just the fandom battle the bothers me about the region stuff though like I stated the all stars was the same and it's EXTREMELY hard to pick a team based on seeing them for just a handful of matches at worlds.
: > [{quoted}](name=Taeseuk,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6eAKWYhi,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-03T14:08:18.043+0000) > > Honestly every region SHOULD be able to choose who they support, just because I am playing on x sever does not mean I support the team from that server and having an icon of a team I don't support just means said icon is wasted. You can always buy said icon though.
> [{quoted}](name=fallenreaper88,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6eAKWYhi,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-03T14:16:58.278+0000) > > You can always buy said icon though. Which I have done but that's missing the point with having the na team icon I am still technically supporting them as stated in the msi mission info, I do NOT support the na team so why would I want my support to be added towards their fandom score?
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6eAKWYhi,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-05-03T12:18:04.823+0000) > > Yeah but why can't we at least choose which one we support, since EUNE doesn't have LCS Because eune is for all of europe so its your "home team" by that logice every region should be allowed to choose who they support for free.
> [{quoted}](name=fallenreaper88,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6eAKWYhi,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-05-03T13:26:39.148+0000) > > Because eune is for all of europe so its your "home team" by that logice every region should be allowed to choose who they support for free. Honestly every region SHOULD be able to choose who they support, just because I am playing on x sever does not mean I support the team from that server and having an icon of a team I don't support just means said icon is wasted.
Jansuo (EUNE)
: Pause game outside of custom games
Not only would this feature be abused non stop hut it would also have to go to a vote on both sides as it's no fair on the enemy team that they have to wait for somebody on your team. I just don't see it working.
: I got permanantly banned for saying such thing?????
>Eternal Harvest: stfu Eternal Harvest: just stay gold Eternal Harvest: im inting Eternal Harvest: i just dont want to carry people like you Eternal Harvest: just tell yourself that draven Eternal Harvest: enjoy the lose While only mild they are all forms of toxicity/negativity and since you only had a 14 day ban 2 months ago the system has seen this and picked up you haven't learned from before so you got a perma ban as even mild toxicity will lead to you getting a perma ban from a 14 day ban until you've truly reformed and you account is back in good standing in riots eyes.
Sockzz (NA)
: - responding to someone flaming me is not blaming - im not passive aggressive anywhere this entire fucking system is INSANE when i see guys on streams telling people to kill themselves and nothing happens yet im defending myself from trolls and barely at that and get banned? bullshit
> Sockzz: u just lost game for me That is you blaming. > Sockzz: gj bot Sockzz: u did well Sockzz: u have a good win rate Passive aggressive given you spent the rest of the game complaining about them. Overall you created a negative environment and wasn't nice to play with this led to you being reported and thus being banned because you were already on your final warning. > im defending myself from trolls and barely at that and get banned? bullshit Your defence is mute them, report them move on. Do not respond to them, do not give them the satisfaction of getting you worked up just focus on playing the game and getting through it. The system doesn't take into account what has been done/said to you and nor should it because regardless of what is said to you, you should still be holding yourself to the ToU and conducting yourself in a good sportsmanship manner.
Sockzz (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Taeseuk,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L8NwFzwv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-12-13T09:54:37.501+0000) > > Did you have any prior punishments before this? If so what were they and when we're they? even if i had 50 punishments how on earth is this fucking toxic? the bot lanes calling me a fuckboy and im asking if he is serious ye i came off a 14 day ban but for more bullshit like this. benign reports that are "toxic" the system is INSANE
Then this is justified, when having a 14 day ban that is your final warning to change your behavior and any toxicity even minor can and will result in a perma ban such as in your case. Blaming people isn't allowed and can be considered harassment. Asking for reports isn't allowed and can be considered harassment. You we're passive aggressive a lot through out too which Riot has always frowned upon. As far as riots concerned you didn't reform, you didn't learn your lesson when you came off of your 14 day ban so the next punishment is the perma ban. You can try to appeal it by submitting a support ticket but it's very unlikely riot will life the ban as they only do so in cases of mistake.
Sockzz (NA)
: There is no way this is worth a perma ban
Did you have any prior punishments before this? If so what were they and when we're they?
Arammus (EUW)
: so it looks like saying f■g doesnt get you banned?
Send in a support ticket with all the information and the users name, if you reported him and the system failed then report him manually, also note that you did report him so there is no confusion.
: whats with the god damn rating systems
Your rating is based on what you do in game then is compared to the rest of the players on that champion. So if you only dropped a few wards then chances are you're not going to get higher, as a jungle you should be helping your team light the jungle up as a Christmas tree.
: 14 day ban
> you banned me for being toxic when apparently i was "baited". this guy is talking shit all game and when i say kys? **Yes. ** Doesn't matter why you said it, you have absolutely no right to endorse self harm on another individual, none what so ever. > welp uninstalling this garbage fire of a game. not wasting my time getting to level 30. i almost got there to tonight. You can play after your 14 day ban, you just have to be extra careful not be toxic as 14 day ban is your final warning and your on very thin ice.
: HONOR WILL BE RESETTING... BUT WAIT...."Level 0 & 1 -> stay at current level"
> Now you are telling me that when the honor resets I will STILL be at level 0 from September into a new year and into a new season. Why should your honor be reset just because it's the start of preseason? You had shown dishonorable behavior so you got punished as such, to get back to level 2+ you have to work hard at it like everybody else not get an easy way out because the new season is starting. > > I see no reason why anyone that is level 1 or 0 who will continue to be that level into another season and probably half way thru season 8 would even dare reform. Because if they don't their can kiss their accounts goodbye, the system is designed to make sure the player has truly reformed before they get their honor back if the person can't handle this then they haven't truly reformed and will eventually be banned for it. > the length to which it takes to level from 0-1 and 1-2 is insanely long if it ever actually happens. Judging by the boards, it rarely happens.. The length is meant to be long, the idea is to make sure as best riot can that the player has truly reformed and there for is deserving of rewards again. You don't get rewarded for bad behavior, it takes time, toms of games and honor from strangers to show riot that you've learned from your mistakes. Also do not take this board as the majority of what happens, this board is only a fraction of the player base so what you see here isn't necessarily reflected in most of the players. > Then again... to find out that after you have reformed and think you are going to start a new season off fresh with the opportunity to appreciate your newfound respect for the game and the players and looking forward to getting back to honor 5 , that you will STILL remain unable to participate in rewards after spending a quarter of the previous season and year in the same spot. Other people have had to slowly climb there way out of level 0 why shouldn't you have to? There are no shortcuts to reforming and you are treated the same as everybody else, you shouldn't get a quick fix just because the new season is coming you should have to work for it like everybody else did.
: What is the Support Role Exactly?
Neither of you are correct. First the support does not belong to anybody they are there for the team. That being said until the adc can handles themselves the support should be with them and helping them as much as possible, however if there is going to be a fight say mid or blue buff and they can get there in time to help without putting their add at risk they should. During the time that the support is with their adc they should die to allow their adc to escape however they shouldn't be diving in front of everything and committing support death if their adc isn't going to escape anyway. Now while that's the typical role of a support it really depend from person to person some adcs want their support with them all the time, some adcs want the freedom to flex their muscles so have their support roam. Some supports like to follow their adc everywhere others like to roam around giving their adc apace and helping the team. Neither type is wrong or right it's just a different play style just as there are more aggressive supports and more passive supports.
Stivciu (EUW)
: unfair ban
You harassed Ashe and Morgan's the whole game, you admitted to intentionally trolling the game, you asked for reports in both games, you insulted Ashe and morgana the whole game, you had a negative attitude in both games but mostly the first. This ban was 100% deserved, you we're extremely toxic through out and their choice to ban your champ does not give you the right to abuse them the way you did. You can try to appeal by submitting a support ticket but I highly doubt riot will overturn it as they only so this in cases that the ban was given in mistake. Since you are on a 14 day ban when you come back I'd be very careful as even small toxicity can lead to a perma ban, if somebody bothers you mute them report them at the end screen if they broke rules and move on do not respond as you responding puts you into trouble.
: Support my Blog?
While I would support it I can't really do so without a link and I'd advise against posting a link that deals with things of that nature here but good luck with it all the same.
: I'm Slightly Annoyed
Keep working at it, you'll be landing them hooks in not time! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Zeko1221 (EUNE)
: Perma Bans
> The system is taking things out of context when it comes to flaming or toxic behavior. You're right, context doesn't matter when it comes to giving punishments for flaming or toxic behavior. > There is a huge difference when somone is beeing just toxic and when somone is just joking around with the enemy team(player)and having fun and both sides dont get offended. If nobody gets bothered by what is said there isn't an issue and the game a not flagged for review. > also some players dont see that just like the system and report you for beeing toxic. Then they obviously didn't like what you said and wanted your behavior to be looked into. > Clearly things are taken out of context here and as a result most of the players get perma banned. First context is hard enough to convey in text form, second what you find funny and take as a joke somebody else may not, third most players don't get banned for making jokes their haven't been many people complaining "I got banned for making a joke" unless they're trying to justify saying "kys" which is never a joke. > Well that just sucks but they should improve their system and dont just cut the fun where you spend years and years into one account and it goes away in one second.Maybe i talk no sense maybe i dont know anything,but if im wrong correct me.We all make mistakes and learn from them. It doesn't go away in one second very few people go from no punishments to perma ban, people usually at least get the 14 day ban first, this serves as a warning to **learn from your mistakes** these people then proceed not to and end up complaining they got banned and if you've actually climbed up the punishment ladder you get 3 warnings to learn from your mistakes so it's not like these people are making one mistake then getting instantly shipped off of league. Tl/Dr: don't make jokes to people you don't know that can be taken offensively, you get up to 3 warnings before you get your perma ban, don't let it get that far and **learn from your mistakes** before then.
benjji (NA)
: Fighting a leaver beaver
It would take you more time to submit a support ticket and get it lifted than it would to just wait out the timer.
Glîtchy (NA)
: Players mocking at end of game
They just might not be high enough on the punishment ladder to be punished, not to mention if it was just a chat restriction they may have already served it when you see them. Though I do have a question for you, do you make a note that it was in the end screen lobby and not the game?
Jony93MMA (EUNE)
: My 14 days suspension.....
While you can submit a support ticket and please your case ota highly unlikely your suspension will be overturned as you were insulting and toxic through out but good luck to you if you decide to submit a ticket.
: Ya know. Something i *Dont* quite understand.
A vast majority of the league community never visit the forum, chances are those that get banned on come here to post that they've been banned and that's it.
: Just going to copy and past at this point because it's like I'm talking to a brick wall. I don't care as much about being muted as much as I care about the player getting the just ban he deserves. What statistic do you need to see other than https://gyazo.com/768ec34c555e1d15908cf7b399d767b1 this? All I want is to see the clearcut feeding be treated as such and hopefully a perm ban come to this guys account so others don't have to deal with the same thing. Cause god forbid you call out a 0/19/0 35 cs D- jungle for feeding, that's what is important.. Lmao
As you have been told at least twice it takes more thank just kda and cs to prove inting, I've had games with ridiculous deaths and low cs where I was just having a bad game. It takes **time** and **multiple** games before a persons punished for trolling/inting, what you see as a clear cut case because it plagued your game riot does not. If they were to go around banning people low kda and cs a lot of genuine players would get banned so they have to be more careful. And I already addressed all of this previously so since it's a copy and paste message I will forego repeating myself.
Keyru (NA)
: Boards Moderation Discord Verification
Almo (NA)
: @ Forum Moderator: Application Status
As by the email I got by wukos today they're still going through the applications as quickly as they can, they got a lot of applications just give them time they'll get to it. As djinn said however you can ask through the mod chat but honestly I'd just be patient.
: and as far the clause of taking things into your own hands, Riot cant be contacted via phone and emails are ignored, so yeah, I think I do have the right to take it into my own hands when it's this obvious and this ridiculous.
> so going 0/19/0 isn't worthy of any punishment in a ranked game If they we're purposefully trolling/inting absolutely it is, that being said however it is a lot harder to prove he wasn't just having a bad game than it is to prove x lines of chat are toxic there for toxicity is dealt with much quicker. It will take multiple games of this behavior to have have somebody punished for this kind d of thing. > n-word after the game again isn't worthy of punishment, Again absolutely it is, so you report him and move on, making sure you leave a comment stating it was after the game so it can be looked into. > but I am worthy of a mute in a game where I didn't even curse (probably why I got banned under the joke of "unsportsmanlike conduct") I don't know fully what you said as you haven't posted your chat logs but I will point out that cursing is **not** the only thing that is toxic and will get you punished in fact curse away as long as you don't spam it and direct it at anybody. > and as far the clause of taking things into your own hands, Riot cant be contacted via phone and emails are ignored, so yeah, I think I do have the right to take it into my own hands when it's this obvious and this ridiculous. Nope. Under no circumstances do you have a right to flame/insult/harass/otherwise negatively impact a team mate based on your own opinions/views of the situation. If you believe he's doing something he shouldn't you report it, take screencaps and send it into support if you really have to {I personally do not advice this at all they have enough to deal with} what you don't do is deal with it yourself in a manner that is against the rules as described above.
: Is this a joke Riot
Everybody is on different punishment ladders the report for this game may not have been enough to push him into a punishment that being said he may have chat restrictions and you not know it. As for you being punished, you are responsible for your own actions whatever they be {without the chat logs I have to assume they were toxic} you're not a vigilante you have not right to take matters into your own hands.
ß0l0gna (NA)
: Well we aren't all mindless like you, some of us tend to fall back on emotions. especially in a meaningful game, such as a ranked one.
I'm not mindless nor am I emotionless I just know there is absolutely no point in me bitching, fussing at, insulting or otherwise harassing anybody on my team as it achieves **nothing** in my case it wouldn't even make me feel better because then I feel like an asshole for attacking somebody for playing a game {other it may make them feel better but does nothing for the rest of the team} If it does nothing for the game why would I decide to use it in game? The answer is I wouldn't, instead of focusing on harassing my team mate I would rather play the game because all harassing them does is tilt them to the point they have a bad game if they weren't already, possibly tilt and annoy the other 3 members of my team and results in a team that can't agree on anything.
: whta is wrong with you all,if this happened to you i bet you wouldnt just type "Please dont take my farm,the weather is so beautiful my life is sunny and full of brightness haha :DD"
You're talking to somebody that doesn't believe insults achieve anything so yes I would just ask them to stop, if they didn't I would play through the game and do what I could to contribute like using myself as bait because I have less items than I "should" have, making sure my positioning is good so that I can stay alive longer on a fight so that I can do small amounts of damage over time etc. I have never once felt the need to insult somebody no matter what they've done to me.
: yeah "the boards prohibit sharing other's names" lmao then why is this discussion even available if i cant complain on a certain player
It's here for people to get help and advice, to figure out just why they got banned and hopefully learn from their mistakes so it doesn't happen again, it's not here to start a witch hunt which is exactly what happens when people are named on the boards.
: why do roles even exist then? lmao
Because your role is to do damage not take cs, the only reason supports let their adc take minions is so they can get their items quicker, there is no official rule stating they can't take minions.
: 20 minutes banned
It's hard to believe that you don't have a history of leaving games in some way or another of you have five 29 minute wait times. If you generally think it's a mistake because you really haven't been leaving games contact support but you'll most likely just have to wait the time out, good luck either way.
: I got permanently banned after this game.
What did the chat logs say that riot provided you with if there were any if not what does it say you were banned for when it tells you that you're banned.
: Some Terrible Players
You tilted that player by doing what you did that player then decided to give you a taste of your own medicine. While you're both in the wrong you could have avoided this if you hadn't first of all pointed out how badly they're doing {chances are they know and don't need it pointing out to them} then by purposefully not surrendering. While these were small things and their response was totally unacceptable you should have been more aware of your own actions and what they could have done to others in the game.
Synoxia (EUW)
: We need actual game admins, not bots :)
> I find it ridicolous that anyone isn't permablaming riot for this. With all the money that they make, they don't want to afford game admins, instead they put a stupid automatic system that bans you because you wrote triggered words. They had this it was the tribunal system, it was too slow the current system bans for the same reasons the tribunal system just much quicker. > The bot Doesn't care of seeing the whole game scenario and doesn't empathize. A real person would not full punish if you are counterflaming/someone else is inting. You can't treat the flame starter, and the person that's defending himself the same way. Yes they would, first of all they're under riots control and would ban for exactly the same reasons the bot does. Second it does not matter what the person does to you does not give you the right to flame them. > And the system is completely bs, because now you know what? You can still flame people, just try not to tell them trigger words like kys, or flame using ascii's (i think bot is good enough to detect numbers but idk) The system is very good at finding toxicity in games, it also learns so that it can adapt to new ways of flaming once they have been reported for it. > Innocent people can still be banned coz they say "kill myself, i am so bad" "i wanna die" "i suck" because bot doesn't care about context. These people are more than welcome to submit a support ticket and get their ban looked at if it's genuinely wrong riot will overturn it. > The best example of this is someone that got banned for saying "dude your english gave me cancer" .. This was toxic so he wasn't innocent. > With more Game Admins actually seeing the game inting people bans can become possible, and people would complain less about toxicity bans. While they might happen more often they still wouldn't be that frequent as inting isn't something that is so easily picked out. ---------------- All in all the bot is actually very useful and saves time, the only instance where a bot isn't the best option is when it comes to trolling.
: Full Story please?
Chat logs, show us what you said and we'll be able to point you in the direction of of the banned was justified and why or it you should appeal it.
moneybank (EUNE)
: Unfairly banned
> I got banned for being toxic, but I wasn't flaming, Flaming isn't the only thing that's toxic. > and even if I was i feel like it was justified, since I was playing with 2 players who were trolling and intentionally trying to ruin the game for me, which frustrated me. You are never justified to flame/be toxic regardless of what others are doing to you. > I am pretty sure they teamed up against me and both reported me, hoping to get me banned since they kept saying I was flaming when I know I wasn't. Irrelevant, 1 report gets the system to check the game as much as 9 reports do. That being said unless we see chat logs we can't tell you if the ban was justified or give you advice.
: Is it? because I never read anywhere on ay riot rules that pulling a quesiton mark when someone does something retarded ever being remotely toic lol
It's the frequency you do it not the ? Itself, you spam it several time for absolutely no reason when one is sufficient it's classed as harassment.
: I wrote them in support .. they just do not answer me. Close the question and all .. What is this nonsense?
If they closed it contact them again, make sure you're giving them all the information you can and have it under the right category.
: 14 day suspended. help, question
Honestly the only advice I can give you is contact support, it can't even be they just got the 2016 part wrong because it would be the 24the if you got it today.
: The best champion ( out of the ones i want to main ) poll
For what lane? I would guess jungle but could also be top.
WolfChases (EUNE)
: Damn...looks like I am gonna be forced to play few normal games in that case. Is there any Rioter who can tell me if switching between rankeds and normals can trigger the ban?
It shouldn't affect you at all, a lot of players do this but if you want a certain answer contact riot support.
: Riot, I want to get my nick back
If you truly believe your account name was suitable then submit a support ticket, without knowing what your previous name was we can't even give you any help or advice on it. Good luck.
: How do you create a perm champ from champ shards?
Do you mean upgrading a single share or refilling 3 into a perma champ?
WolfChases (EUNE)
: How does Riot detect MMR boosting?
Nobody can tell you an official answer as to how they do it because riot doesn't reveal this information to prevent people from finding a way around it.
: Riot should take the extra lengths for people who spend an insane amount of money on their game. That's funding them. That's paying their bills and keeping their game alive. Permanent chat mute should absolutely come before a permanent ban. A permanent ban should be the very last thing in their mind and mentioned.
> Riot should take the extra lengths for people who spend an insane amount of money on their game. That's funding them. That's paying their bills and keeping their game alive. Not at all, just because you spend money on something does not mean you have a right to act how you want to. If somebody walked into a store and brought something {effectively funding them and paying their bills keeping their store alive} then kicked off throwing hate at the staff they would be removed from the store and in some stores even banned from said store. While not exactly the same the premise is the same, a person that buys from riot knows the rules as much as somebody that doesn't if that person then breaks the rules they are and absolutely should be held to the same punishments. > Permanent chat mute should absolutely come before a permanent ban. A permanent ban should be the very last thing in their mind and mentioned. Again they already tried this and it did not work, perma ban **is** the last thing in their mind which is why there is a punishment ladder. A person gets 3 warnings unless they skip a tier 2 chat restrictions and a 14 day ban which also warns you that's your final warning, if a person does not and can not change their behavior during that time another warning isn't going to change that.
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