I know about the Brackern. OG hextech was made specifically from Brackern crystals, yes, but the Piltovans didn't even know what it was they had. They were just like "Crystals made of magic, neato" Piltovans *did* end up figuring out how to synthetically make "magic crystals," albeit a *much* weaker version than the genuine artifact. Remember, Piltovan's aren't fully aware of the significance of the crystals they harvested. Modern Piltovan "hextech crystals" are just magical energy in crystal form, because that's what they thought the *original* stuff was. At some point we're just going to be arguing about the definition of "hextech." If your definition (which may very well be the correct one) says that hextech is specifically made with Brackern crystals, than no, Jhin's gun is not hextech. If your definition says that hextech is at least made from crystals that were made with Brackern crystals in mind, than no, Jhin's gun is not hextech. If your definition says that hextech is any infusion of technology with magic, than yes, Jhin's gun is hextech. To be clear, my understanding is that Jhin's gun is not powered by a crystal of any kind, but it *was* made with Piltovan hextech in mind. Don't know if I personally think it's hextech or not.

Okay, you talking about the teleport reminded me of something in-lore that I think is funny. Anyone reading this who doesn't know much about the lore, this is for you. In [Burning Tides](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/bilgewater-story/), a major Bilgewater story, TF is hired to steal a thing from one of Gangplank's treasure warehouses. I find it hilarious how he does it. Basically, he ults into the warehouse, grabs the thing he's supposed to steal, and then he just sits down to wait for his ult cooldown to be over so he can ult out of the warehouse.

Hextech is just the infusion of machines with magic. Piltovan hextech is the go-to, and they're the people who originally had the idea. Piltovan hextech works by having a magical crystal (which can now be synthetically made) and stickng it into a machine. While Piltovan hextech is definitely more machine than magic, Ionian "hextech" definitely isn't. The land itself in Ionia imbued with magic in a way that the rest of the world simply isn't. Jhin's gun can be considered hextech simply because it's a magically-enhanced machine, but I doubt that's that answer you're looking for. Jhin's gun was likely built with Piltovan hextech in mind, but because it's Ionian it's a much different beast, as shown in that quote you got.

I don't think she *needs* contact born of desire, it's just that at this point she wants that high-grade suffering enough that there's no point in suffering a little to get it. Remember, at the beginning of her "life," > At first, catching prey was a challenge for the demon. It could move undetected in its shadow form, but to touch a human, the creature needed to manifest as something tangible. It made several attempts to fashion a physical body from its shadow-flesh, but each result was more monstrous than the last, scaring off her prey. > The demon realized it needed a shape that was pleasing to humans, one that would not only lure them right into its claws, but would offer them ecstasy born of their own desires, so that their pain would be that much sweeter. Though now that I think of it, it's possible that as a demon grows in power, the *limitations* on their powers *also* increase. Tahm Kench is likely more powerful than Evelynn, and the rules that he must follow to complete a contract are much less cut-and-dry than Evelynn's. So I guess in conclusion, Evelynn didn't *always* need skin contact born from desire, but I don't know if that's still the case.

Okay, I'm doing some extra research here at it seems that when people touch her out of desire (not necessarily sexual desire, but yeah) the pleasure she receives from their pain is more satisfying because it was in part self-inflicted. Like how Tahm plays the long con in order to make his prey's misery the strongest. > The demon realized it needed a shape that was pleasing to humans, one that would not only lure them right into its claws, but would offer them ecstasy born of their own desires, so that their pain would be that much sweeter.

We don't know how Swain was able to conquer a demon, but it is almost certain that the mechanics of said demon's contract are different than Evelynn's. If a person physically touched Evelynn for any reason, they'd be signing her contract and she'd have power over them. Evelynn doesn't *need* to lure people in via seduction, it's just that lookin' hot is the most efficient way she's found to get people to touch her.

Tahm Kench, another demon, has made it clear that time means nothing to him. To Ekko: > "Time is but another river - and I care not what water I swim in." If Tahm can transcend time, it's likely that Eve can too. However, Tahm's powers are likely more mature than Eve's, so whether or not she can transcend time *now* is another question, but her abilities would allow it. I doubt Braum would ever make a contract with a demon, and if you don't let them in they're powerless (unless they work through a different contract.

Adding on to Kassadin, she also doesn't know if this dude, if real, is actually still her dad or some Void corrupted monster by now.

Evelynn's powers aren't based on seduction, they're based on physical contact. In touching her willingly, a victim effectively signs a contract, which I assume makes Evelynn nearly all-powerful when it comes to tracking them down, catching them, or otherwise ending them in the most painful way possible. The key here is that *they* have to sign the contract, Evelynn can't just force someone into it. There probably is some mystical way to break a demon's contract, but we don't know what it is right now. Swain himself *did* conquer a demon, but we actually don't know if the demon is still playing him somehow. If the demon is playing him I think it's safe to say that Swain acknowledges this and considers the potential price worth it.

I agree with Bishop, though I also say that Riot's not going for a whole lot of continuity on this topic. Time stuff is always hard to write, especially in a video game setting where the character can't *actually* turn back time in-game. About Mundo: Pretty sure Mundo remembering things from previous timelines is something pretty unique to him. We aren't sure *what* Mundo is, and how time travel affects him is another thing entirely. I think the flashbinder is it's own thang. Just other timey-wimey shenanigans, not necessarily connected to the Z-drive.

Last we knew Jhin was leaving Ionia. Going to Piltover, if I remember correctly.

Okay, I don't know much about large cats. I was thinking of those videos of lions torturing gazelle and stuff. Thanks for the clarification, I'll put Nid behind Cho'Gath then. But wait, feeding Cho would speed up the coming of the Void… Eh, what's one more grave? *Yorick intensifies*

Fiora would not want to dance with me due to the political image it would leave on her house. Specifically, it would give the impression that she's open to suitors, so it's possible that she'd maim me in some way to prevent this. Katarina is an assassin who's given everything to her work. I would not feel safe. Evelynn is literally a demon of agony who can only touch you with consent, which means if I touch her I die one of the most painful deaths possible. No. Jayce would be an awkward dancer and would *not* want to dance with me. He gets second place. Irelia is master dancer who has complete control over her magical abilities, and she also seems like a genuinely nice person. I choose Irelia.

Urgot eats you via wood chipper preceded by impalement, so no thanks. Tahm Kench would leave you alive only to feast on the misery he causes you in the long term, don't want to do that. > Markus screamed as the steersman’s hooded robe collapsed, revealing that this was not a man at all, but a writhing nest of innumerable spiders given the semblance of a man. They fell upon him in their thousands, and his screams were choked to muffled grunts as they crawled into his mouth, clogged his ears and burrowed behind his eyes. > Elise swung into view above him, borne aloft by the jointed limbs at her back. She was no longer beautiful, no longer even human. Her features were alight with a ferocious hunger that could never be sated. The looming form of her monstrous spider god lifted Markus from the ground with its razored mandibles. > “You have to die now, Markus,” said Elise. From [Strand by Silken Strand](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/elise-color-story/), Elise's color story. No thank you. Evelynn is literally a demon of agony, it would not be fun. I don't think large cats always eat their pray dead, so I may be ripped to pieces and eaten alive. Cho'Gath would likely eat me whole and with the most speed out of everyone here. I choose Cho'Gath.

Rek'Sai would kill me instantly, so that's out of the question (as I am not suicidal). You say it doesn't have to be a weird kiss, like it could just be a kiss on the forehead or something, so you'd think I'd go with Zoe, but… See, Zoe is an aspect of change. Worst case scenario is she's volatile and might lash out at me on instinct, or maybe just kill me accidentally. With all the power she has, it'd be easy. My only thing against Gragas is that smelling his breath may immediately intoxicate me, but it doesn't have to be a kiss near the mouth, I could just kiss his hand. So yeah, I choose Gragas.

The nature kills you in Ionia. It's a better idea to visit the Shadow Isl… Wait…

I think this is the only image we have of other sea monsters around Bilgewater, but they look smaller than your thing, so maybe the stuff that the people of Bilgewater hunt are a lot smaller typically? It would kind of make sense, Pyke talks about betrayal, maybe his crew was running from something too big to hunt and they threw him over as bait? https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/region/bilgewater/?mv=highlights I can't copy the link for whatever reason, so just do right arrow key

Yeah, she can extend her life probably, but Zoe is straight up ancient.

As far as I know, all the actual Aspects know that Diana is super important and there for a reason, the only people who hate her are the Solari, who are misinterpreting their gods' doctrine. This isn't an issue for the Aspects, because they're directly connected to their gods.

Wait, who's the nightmare champion?

Yeh, these were my thoughts.

I mean, Varus, Zoe, and Kayn get a hard pass. We already knew about Darkin and Targonian Aspects. And yeah, Swain was written really well. Anyway, Karma's old lore actually said "She is the soul of Ionia made manifest," which could mean that her power source hasn't changed at all. I'm switching topics now. My thoughts are really disjointed. I would think that the reason Riot writes stories about humans gaining magical power through external means is simply because that's the nature of Runeterra. I can name 6 champions who were just magical to begin with: Taliyah, Lux, Syndra, Annie, Irelia and Xerath pre-ascension, I think. All the rest gained most if not all of their power through external forces. Runeterra is a world, and it's a natural world, but it's set upon on all sides by magical forces. The spirit world, other dimensions, space, it's simply a place where the supernatural bleeds and has bled into the natural, tainting it with its power. It's no wonder people are affected by all of it.

First and foremost, I agree with GreenLore, but it's possible that she met the Kindred due to being near one of their "sacred" sites, or maybe they were actually just interested in her. I agree with GreenLore completely on his take on Forest for the Trees. Remember, > Lamb danced lithely from sword edge to spear tip, the red-blooded butchery never staining her pale coat. . > The last breath of a soldier came with a ragged consent as his shield gave way to a heavy axe. Stuck in his heart was a single white arrow, shimmering with ethereal brilliance. These are probably the best examples of what you're talking about. The Kindred don't kill people, yet in the *moment* of a person's death, the Kindred *are* what ends them. Lamb *is* the spear tip, she *is* the sword edge, and her arrow *is* the axe. It's the same with the boy, even if we can't tell exactly why. Maybe he was mortally wounded and died from heavy bleeding. Maybe a stray arrow took him as he ran from the battlefield. Maybe he only ran at the end of the battle and was hunted down by the enemy. Maybe he ran for days and died of starvation. Maybe he ran into the woods and literally got hunted down by a pack of wolves. Whatever the case, it was his time to die. The Kindred didn't choose that time, but they were there for it.

I mean, this hasn't just been a recent thing. Udyr, Diana, Leona, Taric, and Illaoi use magical forces that inhabit them as weapons, and Pantheon is straight up a flesh-suit for an external force. Oh, and saying Swain's power comes from an external force is like saying Caitlyn's power comes from an external force, it's just that Swain subdued a demon and Caitlyn trained with a rifle. Actually, this can be said with a lot of champions.

Sorry if you've read this before and your answer was not to reply. Okay, this is kind of a last ditch effort, but I'm trying it anyway. For a school assignment, I need an interview with a Riot employee. Specifically an employee who helps with communicating with League's playerbase. I made a post in GD about this, and someone suggested that I talk to you, Meddler, using this method (going into dev corner and finding you) Context: I am a student taking the IB Business and Management course, and as a part of the course I must interview an employee of a company to discuss a topic of my choosing. My specific topic asks the question "how would a video game company benefit from maintaining open communication with its players and player community." I've chosen Riot out of all video game companies because keeping up open communication with League players is something that I think Riot does very well. The fact that I feel like what I'm doing right now might actually work is proof of that. It's completely fine if the interview is done right here on the Boards, but if there's some issue with that please tell me so I can work something out. To sum up, I would like to conduct an interview with you, Meddler, to discuss how Riot's generally open communication with its playerbase affects the company, whether positively or negatively. I'll try to stay on standby in case a you really does appear, but I am only mortal and can't be around all the time. Thanks for taking the time to read this, I'd completely understand if you have better and more important things to do.

Okay, this is kind of a last ditch effort, but I'm trying it anyway. For a school assignment, I need an interview with a Riot employee. Specifically an employee who helps with communicating with League's playerbase. I made a post in GD about this, and someone suggested that I talk to you, Meddler. Context: I am a student taking the IB Business and Management course, and as a part of the course I must interview an employee of a company to discuss a topic of my choosing. My specific topic asks the question "how would a video game company benefit from maintaining open communication with its players and player community." I've chosen Riot out of all video game companies because keeping up open communication with League players is something that I think Riot does very well. The fact that I feel like what I'm doing right now might actually work is proof of that. It's completely fine if the interview is done right here on the Boards, but if there's some issue with that please tell me so I can work something out. To sum up, I would like to conduct an interview with you, Meddler, to discuss how Riot's generally open communication with its playerbase affects the company, whether positively or negatively. I'll try to stay on standby in case a you really does appear, but I am only mortal and can't be around all the time. Thanks for taking the time to read this, I'd completely understand if you have better and more important things to do.

> [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZEY1rdyq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-03-01T00:22:21.902+0000) > > Hey OP, you might try asking for Meddler, as he's probably one of the most involved Rioters in communication with players on the boards. How would I go about specifically asking Meddler?

> [{quoted}](name=Teémò,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZEY1rdyq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-01T00:19:14.934+0000) > > You could try a support ticket.. Though why not try communicating with companies around you? they're only mortal too. I tried a support ticket already.

> [{quoted}](name=Unrefõrmed,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZEY1rdyq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-01T00:18:21.241+0000) > > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new Already tried that.

The idea of a gun is pretty simple though. People were thinking about the concept of guns irl before they ever existed. Shooting magic out of a stick is conceptually the same thing as shooting metal out of stick.

BRUH I WAS LOOKING AT HER FACE JUST TODAY AND THOUGHT THE SAME THING

She doesn't sound uninspired to me, just bad at conveying her emotion. To me she sounds like a person who finds it hard to feel strongly about anything, as everything was taken away from her. It seems like she's low on social interaction and that the Void and the need for survival has kind of sucked some of the life out of her, but she still has hope.

It's true that she seems unrealistic to me. It'll be hard to justify it in lore. But right now I like her.

Yeah, makes me sad when I find out that a new champ has lines that I will never in my life ever trigger on my own. Like, I think Xayah has a Pentkill quote? And now Kai'Sa has quotes that she says when she hits 1-26 kills. I will never hear 81% of those quotes.

Illaoi's god only demands that life be in motion, as Nagakabouros gives every being their destiny and it would be denying Nagakabouros to deny your destiny. This is shown in [Illaoi's color story](https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/illaoi-color-story/) when she puts Gangplank through his trial. He had been left stagnating as the king of Bilgewater for too long, so he almost didn't make it. His will to rise and become king once more was what put him back in motion to let him pass the trial. Nagakabouros is all about the flow of life, and life itself *is* motion, so Nagakabouros can be called a god of life. We see this in [Shadow and Fortune](http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/shadow-and-fortune/chapter-1.html) when Illaoi straight up annihilates a ton of undead. I would assume that undead are the ultimate form of stagnation. To help visualize what being in motion is like: Gangplank was almost stagnating, but he is now in motion. Miss Fortune is likely in motion, but she might not have had her trial yet. This may become a plot point. As confirmed by Rioters, Braum would definitely pass a trial, but apparently he would so obviously pass that Illaoi wouldn't bother putting him through a trial. Jhin would not pass a trial. Someone asked why, as he's pursuing his art and that could be "in motion," to this a Rioter replied: > Is Jhin actually happy? Is he actually chasing what his heart wants him to do? There is a bit of subtext in many, many of his lines, here's one on the nose -- "There is nothing for me... but this." --Jhin If Illaoi could put him on trial, Galio would pass. Apparently divine magic and arcane magic work with different methods, so Galio might be able to get a trial. Rakan would pass. All undead would fail automatically, and that might apply to Ascended beings, as they're "trying to cheat death." Not sure if this applies as much to Renekton tho… Vi would pass. Now, quotes > Illaoi's religion is about life serving the universe. But Nagakabouros is see as bigger than that goal. Illaoi knows, she can not comprehend her god or it's plan. So she and her religion are attempting to serve and understand a small portion of that god idea. - > Nagakabouros doesn't give out bibles, or hard rules. It demands you to be self aware, emotionally present, and iron willed. Her faith requires you to approach you're own subconcious with simultaneous questioning doubt and total certainty. - > Having doubts isn't a "sin" in her religion-- failing to take action is. Arguably having to test Gangplank, a former lover, was an extremely difficult test to give... but she examined her own motives, listened to her gut, and didn't allow herself to hesitate as soon as she realized he needed to be tested. Almost all of this information came from [this](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/icewate2-what-exactly-are-illaois-powers-and-which-champions-would-survive-the-test-of-nagakabouros), so if you want the full discussion go there.

This is also true.

This is true.

Yo, just gonna say, Jinx x Ekko mostly doesn't make sense. It's true that Ekko *used* to have a crush on Jinx, but after she went crazy he completely dropped it. And even *that* is old lore! So tbh it's likely that Ekko and Jinx have never had a conversation before. Taliyah and Ekko haven't either, actually. Taliyah would only have a crush on Ekko if they *did* happen to meet, but that hasn't happened yet.

See, then how do they access the code? Why is it that Lux can only bring up various light.pngs? How does the code *work*, *why* does it work? What's preventing someone from straight up deleting someone else? Why are their boundaries? Why can some hack it and others can't? These are all questions.

Where it gets interesting is when you get into the questions. *What is* magic? Where does it come from? What makes some things more magical than others?

I don't know how useful this comment will be, but I'll try. It's true that Jhin used blades before guns, but it's important to note that it wasn't *just* blades, it was a whole martial art, specifically a chi technique. This fighting style was invented by Jhin's father, and apparently it would have been far more well known, but wuju style (Master Yi's thing) overshadowed it. Jhin would power his blades with chi energy, and this energy would let him change things physically when he struck them. He does the same thing with his bullets now, which is how he does his E passive. Read [this](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/f4rA8EGP-jhins-alternative-color-story). The chi technique could most likely do more, but I'm not sure what.

Yo, so I know you're probably not expecting this, but I have something to tell you. I was going through a "routine" check of my story-archive and found that an unacceptable amount of the stories listed had dead links or something like that, so I went through and cleaned everything up. The updated list has been re-posted here, but editing a comment doesn't notify the OP, so here's your notification. Have a good one.

I mean the *new* old lore. As in, the lore we had, like, five months ago.

To be honest, I think Sion's lore is largely unchanged. In the "old lore," Sion was resurrected by the Black Rose, but when Swain learned about Sion and decided to tell LeBlanc about what he's found, you can tell that he's unaware of the Black Rose's involvement and LeBlanc feigns ignorance. In the new lore and old, Swain and the Black Rose are allies who don't trust each other, know that the other doesn't trust them, and are always trying to outmaneuver the other. Anyway, GreenLore is prob right.

For now, we don't know. However, a lot of people are saying that petricite isn't magic because it's simply a natural property of the stone. However, being a natural property doesn't make it *not* magic. A lot of things in the LoL universe are "naturally magical." For example, literally all of Ionia. But really, we don't know.

That's your *issue* with this? I think that's part of what makes Kench's lore so cool. It's like, Kench is a being, but he's also a *force*. You don't think that that's even a *tiny* bit awesome? As for what I think happened, I think it's likely that the Gambler physically met Kench. He might not have seen a catfish, it's possible that he actually just met what he saw as a ferryman, but either way the Gambler made a deal to receive help and later give something to Kench. Later in life, Kench watched in glee as the Gambler's addiction destroyed his life. It's possible that Gambler died thinking that he still had a debt to Kench/some ferryman to pay off, but I think it's very likely that Kench revealed himself at the end of it all, whether when Gambler's wife was killed or when Gambler eventually died.