: Personally, I've always found it in poor sport to open a lane. Even when you lose a man; there's always a chance to win. I've literally been part of a 3v5 win before. In particular, jungle is the best possible role to lose, because all your lanes are still covered. You're just missing ganks. Apparently the consensus is that there are times and ways to fairly open a lane, so maybe I'm in the wrong, but it's just my opinion.
> [{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=KsjoEG9y,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-14T20:58:42.708+0000) > > Personally, I've always found it in poor sport to open a lane. Even when you lose a man; there's always a chance to win. I've literally been part of a 3v5 win before. In particular, jungle is the best possible role to lose, because all your lanes are still covered. You're just missing ganks. Apparently the consensus is that there are times and ways to fairly open a lane, so maybe I'm in the wrong, but it's just my opinion. Its all anyone's opinion. Majority does not mean right or true.
: Is it wrong to open mid after an early afk?
Like wrong morally/philosophically? Or wrong according to the rules of the game? The former, noone can tell you. Its merely a matter of opinion, and there is no moral authority over you in this world. The latter, yes.
: Ability to Honor Multiple People Including Opponents?
: I thought I was doing what she wanted
"I thought i was doing what she wanted" ....been there man.
: pretty much, i seen alot of boosted people that dont belong in their rank, you can CLEARLY see they are low skill players 20 sec in the lane
> [{quoted}](name=BoRnToKiLL666,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=5IzI9VXh,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-07-18T23:21:00.027+0000) > > pretty much, i seen alot of boosted people that dont belong in their rank, you can CLEARLY see they are low skill players 20 sec in the lane Ya, sucks. i mean, i dont see it since im low elo but i can imagine it ruins the integrity of ranked.
: Permanently banned on my main account
Lol that symbol is like two legs and a pair of balls hanging between em. Anyway, I actually started to feel a little bad for you until I read the chat log. You didnt get banned for repeating kys. You got banned for being a bully flaming people, calling them useless, r%%%%%ed, score shaming, etc...
: Taking the game seriously = chat restrictions
Sounds like you take yourself too seriously, not the game.
Srbonator (EUNE)
: Can people get banned if they swear in other Language?
Swearing is not against the rules. If they flame you in any language, it is against the rules. Also LMAO all those removed posts hahaha what did i miss!?
: You Get 0lp For Winning a Ranked Match you Disconnect from and Reconnect from
Doesnt it actually count as a loss? Im not sure, but yeah i remember when i discovered that as well after winning a game i dc'd from for a couple minutes. Sucks. Dems da breaks.
Nier64 (NA)
: A player I know is getting boosted by a duo smurf, is this reportable?
Yeah its allowed. And now your boosted friend will get flamed to oblivion and ruin games for other players because he doesnt belong in plat. Yayyyy..... :(
: stop banning me please it is unfair
Theyre not in the business of banning players for no reason other than being reported. They banned you for your actions, not because of false reports. Learn the rules man! Its not that hard. i can kinda explain them to you if you want.
Stratixx (NA)
: Lol.. you can PAY money to get your account unbanned. I may be wrong. Look it up. Sometimes riot will do courteous calls and unban every account. (Think it was S5 or S4) Don’t know why you guys are downvoting, he/she is just asking a question.
> [{quoted}](name=Stratixx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=qT4rB0b3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-18T17:17:17.753+0000) > > Lol.. you can PAY money to get your account unbanned. I may be wrong. Look it up. Sometimes riot will do courteous calls and unban every account. (Think it was S5 or S4) > Don’t know why you guys are downvoting, he/she is just asking a question. Lol are you talking about those scam sites that claim to be able to get your account unbanned? (And ya idk why ppl downvote OP for asking a question)
: I feel the same way. So many people grew up during the 'free love' movement, having all the carnal relations they could muster. And then I come of age during the height of the HIV epidemic. How's that for being born under a bad sign?
> [{quoted}](name=fatherdarius,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wAw1pH9O,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T04:34:07.172+0000) > > I feel the same way. So many people grew up during the 'free love' movement, having all the carnal relations they could muster. And then I come of age during the height of the HIV epidemic. How's that for being born under a bad sign? Nothing is free, those hippies found that out the hard way huh?
: what's the point of "leaving the game afk" report option, if there's leavebuster?
Good question. I think its mainly for those who arent technically afk (as in, away from keyboard) but arent participating in the game. Like walking around base/fountain and stuff. Though, that is essentially griefing.
: Why are Smurfs allowed?
I made a smurf years ago just to start fresh ELO-wise, as this account is from when i was a newb. The longer you play on an account, the more games it takes to affect your MMR. So i played ranked on a smurf and was immediately placed silver 2, as opposed to this account where I have to stomp players from bronze every season (literally stomping them, like 20-5 type of games). I also made an account specifically for ARAM where I would only buy champs that are good on ARAM. Im not looking to stomp newbs. Just a couple non-malicious reasons to make a smurf account.
: I am truly disturbed by the reporting system.
Mind expanding on why you are unable to report someone? Oh wait i think someone else explained what you meant. You just want confirmation that they were banned? I think they have a stance that another player's account status is none of your business. Riot will deal with them as they see fit, not as you see fit.
: @Riot Recently i took the wrong runes in a game and team accused me of soft griefing? am I griefing
: I mean you'd call a bird a bird right? so if they're dumb, then calling them dumb wouldn't be wrong
> [{quoted}](name=Black Bald Eagle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1AwqYJRQ,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-07-18T00:01:05.688+0000) > > I mean you'd call a bird a bird right? so if they're dumb, then calling them dumb wouldn't be wrong Lol yes it would. Theyre strangers. Do you walk up to fat people and call them fatass? Is that not an insult in your fantasy world?
: I was chat banned rather than the troll on my team getting repurcussions
When you post chat logs, why say you only called her a noob as if we arentgonna see you calling her a crybaby, calling someone a dumbass, a "pussi", calling for reports, score shaming, etc...?
Zardo (NA)
: Report and submit a ticket here: http://support.riotgames.com . It probably won't get picked up by the IFS, but it falls under the "hate speech" category, so they will likely get banned if you submit a support ticket. If you run into them again, mute them and report them again. It's really all you can do.
> [{quoted}](name=Zardo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cuOMFkQM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-18T00:22:55.354+0000) > > Report and submit a ticket here: http://support.riotgames.com . It probably won't get picked up by the IFS, but it falls under the "hate speech" category, so they will likely get banned if you submit a support ticket. > > If you run into them again, mute them and report them again. It's really all you can do. What is "it" that falls under hate speech?
: Sexually harrassed on my alt
Mute them maybe? Why are you letting them harass you when you have a mute button to make it all disappear? Mute, report, move on.
: Saying anything anymore gives you chat restriction, Whats the point of chat if you cannot talk.
The point of chat is to talk strategy and maybe banter a bit if you want. Your premise that saying anything gets you banned is obviously false. Ive played for 4 or 5 ywars with no punishments and I use chat. What got you punished is your accusations against oother players and using chat to argue and call for reports against people. Youre trying to gang up on people for no reason. 1 report triggers a review. Adding reports to that in one game doesnt increase the likelihood of them having broken any rules or not. If they break rules, theyll get punished.
: Consequences in Ranked
Griefing is already a 14 day ban. I would be fine if that was stricter i suppose. Just permaban them. EDIT: Just realized what youre asking for is actually less strict than what we already have lol. But Riot believes in second chances, so I guess youre allowed to come back in 2 weeks if you do that. I think what you may actually have a problem with, but failed to communicate it, is their failure at successfully identifying trolling behaviors. This is understandable, but some dont want to understand it. They just want things to be perfect and dont care to understand how difficult it is to detect these things without falsely banning innocent players who suck at the game.
: You guys are soft. This isn't toxic
Yeah, insulting players is against the rules. Idk in what world calling people dumb isnt toxic. I mean, whether its soft to take offense to it or not is something else, but its objectively toxic. Also, idk why you would say it if you werent trying to make them feel bad. Like what was your goal in letting them know theyre dumb? Its to offend them, no? Because its natural to take offense to that, no? If people just told you that youre dumb all day, you would have a natural reaction to that, wouldnt you? And i dont mean your friends. I mean strangers just calling you dumb.
: My PC is DESTROYED
: INT/GRIEF/Trolls
Well she used the chat while trolling you, so I dont see the correlation. We will just have to see and collect more data over time to see if theres any relation between more trolling and less chat. Oh also, you asked for ways to avoid that. Dont EVER tell anyone anything obvious like when theyre getting poked telling them to back off. You never know their state of mind. They might be frustrated about all that poke and you telling them to back off might trigger these pussies. Like "oh back off?? I can do that!? No shit!!! Im trying to get cs, fucking dumbass tells me to back off..." you know what I mean? Its like when someone says "stop feeding" oh really? Great advice! Lol. Some people get triggered by the littlest things. So just keep all criticism and advice to yourself because some people just are looking for a reason to stop playing seriously and they see your comments as a reason. Instead of continuing to get outplayed, theyre gonna focus on pissing you off. Just my advice, and its pretty solid in my opinion, as i almost never encounter trolls.
: has it started yet?
I wouldnt know cuz im the shit at this game and no one ever flames me.
: Better solutions: * After a permaban the account is unbanned after 1 year, but the IFS is strict and one punishment will lead to an actual permaban. * Bans and chat restrictions should be exclusive to the offense; only chat restrictions for chat related offenses and bans for gameplay related offenses
> [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zK6ab14t,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T17:22:02.555+0000) > > Better solutions: > > * After a permaban the account is unbanned after 1 year, but the IFS is strict and one punishment will lead to an actual permaban. > > * Bans and chat restrictions should be exclusive to the offense; only chat restrictions for chat related offenses and bans for gameplay related offenses If they were better at detecting gameplay offenses, I would totally support that.
: why riot ban ppl for speak normal ?
: 14 Day suspension, Reported by a 1/17 Ashe, and a toxic griefing feeding Master Yi
You should know that calling players trash is also against the rules. With the way Riot is these days, im surprised you think that would be okay.
Barkley (NA)
: Meh... you’re kinda on the right track... But maybe something more like a demotion series instead. If your death average over the past 10 games is 6-8 or something like that, and your win rate is below 50%, you get put in a demotion series. If, within those 3 games ONLY (no consideration of any previous games, stats are exclusive to the 3 game demotion series) if you continue to have a 6+ death average and < 50% win rate in those three games — you’re automatically demoted to the middle of the next division down. At zero lp division 5, under the same circumstances but with 5 games — you lose a rank.
> [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=WoQX3Bh2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-17T02:15:51.389+0000) > > Meh... you’re kinda on the right track... > > But maybe something more like a demotion series instead. If your death average over the past 10 games is 6-8 or something like that, and your win rate is below 50%, you get put in a demotion series. > > If, within those 3 games ONLY (no consideration of any previous games, stats are exclusive to the 3 game demotion series) if you continue to have a 6+ death average and < 50% win rate in those three games — you’re automatically demoted to the middle of the next division down. > > At zero lp division 5, under the same circumstances but with 5 games — you lose a rank. I think youre focusingtoo much on kda. This is not a deathmatch game. Its about objectives, not your kda.
: How to fix ranked griefing
Zardo (NA)
: The source only talks about flagging someone for review, not automated banning. In my experience people don't get punished for saying terrible things if only 1 person reports them for it, but if 4 people report for things not quite as bad they get punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Zardo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yk8djsV5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-17T00:14:14.612+0000) > > The source only talks about flagging someone for review, not automated banning. In my experience people don't get punished for saying terrible things if only 1 person reports them for it, but if 4 people report for things not quite as bad they get punished. Of course it doesn't say 1 report flags them for automated bans. That would make no sense. It has to be reviewed first, otherwise your report would basically get someone banned regardless if they broke any rules or not.
: > All right enough is enough, I get afk players at least 1/6 games No you don't. 17% is a huge number.
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Lq14bVrd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-16T16:35:20.009+0000) > > No you don't. 17% is a huge number. Meh, with 10 players in a game, its not that bad of an exaggeration. Its basically 1 out of 54 players that he plays with go afk. Think about it that way and its not so alarming.
coreym11 (NA)
: I fear that the player that sabotaged my match from champion select won't be banned.
Yeah, the system isnt too good at catching those kinds of things. I hope you wrote what happened in the description so they at least have a hint that there was subtle griefing and it was intentionally trying to be hidden. Furthermore, technically what he did may noteven be against the rules. That CS isnt technically yours, that red buff isnt technically the jungler's. So i too fear (though i will neverthink about it again after this post) that he will get away with it.
: Is kda 0-21-4 flagged or considered as international feeding?
International lol. Anyway, idk. Depends on the game length and whether the deaths were intentional. Im gonna say "probably".
IrvenM (NA)
: Am I in the Wrong?
Morally, its a toss up. Opinions will differ of course and no one has moral authority over you. Under the rules of this game however, yes you broke the rules, and therefore "deserve" a punishment. Thats just how it works. Break rules, get punished. Racism (%%%%%%%%%%% is an old old racist thing) gets escalated punishments.
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: new feature disable ally chat
Stop being a victim man. You're better than that. Take control of yourself and your emotions and get over the past.
: > [{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6vGoqVxN,comment-id=000100000002,timestamp=2019-07-16T22:23:37.760+0000) > > Ooof. Very misinformed. > > It goes 10 game chat restrict, 25 game chat restrict, 14 day ban, permaban. Just for future reference ;) Thats an ignorant comment. Racial slurs are auto 14 day suspend not ban. No chat restricts available.
> [{quoted}](name=Rythmatic,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6vGoqVxN,comment-id=0001000000020000,timestamp=2019-07-16T22:24:51.161+0000) > > Thats an ignorant comment. Racial slurs are auto 14 day suspend not ban. No chat restricts available. Telling you the punishment tiers while leaving out specifics doesn't make it an ignorant comment anyway :/
: > [{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6vGoqVxN,comment-id=000100000002,timestamp=2019-07-16T22:23:37.760+0000) > > Ooof. Very misinformed. > > It goes 10 game chat restrict, 25 game chat restrict, 14 day ban, permaban. Just for future reference ;) Thats an ignorant comment. Racial slurs are auto 14 day suspend not ban. No chat restricts available.
> [{quoted}](name=Rythmatic,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6vGoqVxN,comment-id=0001000000020000,timestamp=2019-07-16T22:24:51.161+0000) > > Thats an ignorant comment. Racial slurs are auto 14 day suspend not ban. No chat restricts available. Ahhh I have a problem of editing my comments literally right after I hit post lol. Already covered that in the edit ;)
: Plz stop rubbing my nose in being bad... im trying.
Yeah, people put way too much value in the ability to play a video game well. It's just a damn game. Hope you got the thick skin, because it will never stop. Everyone gets flamed in this game.
: > [{quoted}](name=CharDeeMcDenniz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6vGoqVxN,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-16T22:14:24.629+0000) > > if 100 people get banned do you think 100 people are going to bother to make new accounts? > > if the answer is no (which it is) then the system is doing what they intend People arent getting banned though they only get suspended for anywhere from 1 day to a month. This games been out for like 10 years now and most people have more then 1 account. You think they just wake up one morning and decide they dont want troll some league games?
> [{quoted}](name=Rythmatic,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6vGoqVxN,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-16T22:17:53.302+0000) > > People arent getting banned though they only get suspended for anywhere from 1 day to a month. This games been out for like 10 years now and most people have more then 1 account. You think they just wake up one morning and decide they dont want troll some league games? Ooof. Very misinformed. It goes 10 game chat restrict, 25 game chat restrict, 14 day ban, permaban. Just for future reference ;) And also punishments get escalated, so you could go straight to a 14 day ban first offense, if Riot finds it eggregious enough. ("Hatespeech", inting, trolling, telling people to kys)
: Reporting people is actually just a waste of time.
Lol yes its a waste of 10 seconds of my time... but im already wasting hours playing a video game, so what the hell.
: Is flirting with toxic biggoted players bad? ;)
Yes, stop flirting and play the game. Andyour example isnt even flirting. Its egging them on. Focus on the game.
: Is flirting with toxic biggoted players bad? ;)
Damn wifi going in and out. Double posted, oops.
: all the layered out of game influences
What an exhausting read lol. Sounds like a bunch of nit picking complaining about imperfections with the game. I dont like your idea of de-ranking people for dodging a game. I disagree with a lot of shit in here but it was so long and dragged on and on, i dont even remember half the shit anymore lol. I suggest you add a TL;DR section, or take out all the filler about popcorn and the "so now" this and that.
: > [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dF9bxzhN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-15T18:53:48.464+0000) > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/f9P7YRXv-bad-game-i-guess > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/FcYJWc1F-permanently-banned-for-feeding-in-1-single-game > > --- > > Statistically speaking, you benefited more from inter (not that it is right to have them in your game on any team). If you are not an inter, then there are only 4 rando on your team and 5 rando on the enemy team. The chance of the enemy having an inter given you a big chance to win is far greater than the chance of you having an inter on your own team over a big enough amount of games you play. > > So inters (again, it is not a good thing to have in the game period) would have benefited you more in your climb over numerous games you play by pure statistics. If you cannot climb out of silver, it is not because of inters. You should look inward to what you can improve instead of finding blame on something you cannot control and over season long, even be beneficial to you, not detrimental. That/this is false. "If you are not an inter, then there are only 4 rando on your team and 5 rando on the enemy team. The chance of the enemy having an inter"
> [{quoted}](name=Hailey Hayato,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dF9bxzhN,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-15T20:57:47.861+0000) > > That/this is false. "If you are not an inter, then there are only 4 rando on your team and 5 rando on the enemy team. The chance of the enemy having an inter" Then enlighten us. What are the chances? The odds? Please school us.
: can we make leaving non-ranked games only punishable with low priority and nothing else?
Holy shit. Banned for AFK? Your friend has to leave A LOT of games to get that. Tell him to stop leaving so damn often.
: ban this dude plz (death threats and everything XD)
Youre daring him to but you wanna act like its some serious offense? Thats so bogus. Egging him on and then acting like he needs to be banned. Jesus...
: I tend to err on speaking from the letter of the rules, but in this case I'm also going with the understanding that very few people would appreciate being called "noob". There are of course going to be exceptions and niche cases (modest self-deprecation, friend groups, etc.), but the point remains.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=rYhGZvk9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-16T00:14:33.011+0000) > > I tend to err on speaking from the letter of the rules, but in this case I'm also going with the understanding that very few people would appreciate being called "noob". > > There are of course going to be exceptions and niche cases (modest self-deprecation, friend groups, etc.), but the point remains. I just struggle with how to ask for bad players to carry, without being insulting. How do i do that? I cant say bad, i cant say newb. What am i supposed to ask for if everything is an insult? Newb= new player. Yes it can be used to insult, but by default, it simply means you are new to whatever it is you are doing. Lol it just feels bad walking on egg shells trying to tip toe around to avoid insulting anyone. Why does it have to be an insult? If youre new, you are a newby. Newb. New. Come onnnnnn lol
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