: The Good, The Bad, and the League: 6/6 - 6/12
I have a problem with trying to log into ask riot. so i'm going to ask here since you brought up dns and server issues...What is riot doing to fix wintrading and DDOS problems.
Jag (NA)
: Teemo changes temporarily on PBE for early feedback
FUCK THIS, RIOT FREAKAZOID you dumb idiot, this is a bigggggggg noooooooooo. i use teemo's q as a effective tool against bad matchups taking away from his poison, and don't take away his invisibility. stop everything you're doing, stop touching his kit. STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOPS TOPSTOP.........stopppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp i hate everything about this.
: Part of the reason i have that helpless feeling when reporting someone, is because i really dont know 100% that they were trolling. i dont shit talk, im a silent reporter. But in the back of mind, i know that i only witnessed a small portion of their gameplay, and it was BAD. Going off just the mistakes i saw, they were trolling. But what about the 90% of their game that i didnt see... maybe if i wasnt watching myself and jusr watched them the entire time, i would see that theyre trying... but they just suck. Also, when it looks like someone inted, theres almost always some low health enemy near by. In the players mind, they walked into that turret with the hopes that they would somehow pick up that kill, even though it would take a serious mistake from the enemy to get it.(like say if they jusr turned arouns for no reason and stood still lol). Deep down, i can justify many of the mistakes made by these teammates who appear to be trolling or inting. Its just really bad play. But i report anyways, just in case Riot spots something that confirms the trolling.
> [{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NdmpEJey,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-09-24T00:33:23.546+0000) > > Part of the reason i have that helpless feeling when reporting someone, is because i really dont know 100% that they were trolling. i dont shit talk, im a silent reporter. But in the back of mind, i know that i only witnessed a small portion of their gameplay, and it was BAD. Going off just the mistakes i saw, they were trolling. But what about the 90% of their game that i didnt see... maybe if i wasnt watching myself and jusr watched them the entire time, i would see that theyre trying... but they just suck. Also, when it looks like someone inted, theres almost always some low health enemy near by. In the players mind, they walked into that turret with the hopes that they would somehow pick up that kill, even though it would take a serious mistake from the enemy to get it.(like say if they jusr turned arouns for no reason and stood still lol). > > Deep down, i can justify many of the mistakes made by these teammates who appear to be trolling or inting. Its just really bad play. But i report anyways, just in case Riot spots something that confirms the trolling. hi there, yeah i now exactly where you're coming from. sometimes mistakes look like trolls vice versa. but i applaud ya for letting the IFS system be aware that something posisbly fishy is going on.
: the cancer/trolling is real here in forums aslo, this morning i got reported by a pve noob for disagreeing with him that lol should also be a pve game :D
> [{quoted}](name=Krishal,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NdmpEJey,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-09-23T22:40:11.846+0000) > > the cancer/trolling is real here in forums aslo, this morning i got reported by a pve noob for disagreeing with him that lol should also be a pve game :D huh, weird. but also i'm completely down for a game using the champions of league of legend
: How are you going to prevent the banning then? Inability to select the champ an ally has hovered? That may actually lead to worse problems. *hovers op pick for patch* *enemy team gets it first* Or *even though first pick decides to pick something else* *enemy team gets it* Is it a great system? No, but it is probably the least evil out of those available. If only because hovering is optional. Time delay would be the only option if they did that. Could be m5 on the old version and trash on new (or could be trash on old just played them a lot). Bullet 3 is a trickery slope. You can't simply measure one's joy against another. Taking away the champ may reduce their joy, but that champ being in the game reduces my joy. It isn't about taking control and saying "my way or high way".
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NdmpEJey,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-23T19:02:33.506+0000) > > How are you going to prevent the banning then? Inability to select the champ an ally has hovered? That may actually lead to worse problems. > > *hovers op pick for patch* > *enemy team gets it first* > Or > *even though first pick decides to pick something else* > *enemy team gets it* > > Is it a great system? No, but it is probably the least evil out of those available. If only because hovering is optional. > > Time delay would be the only option if they did that. Could be m5 on the old version and trash on new (or could be trash on old just played them a lot). > > Bullet 3 is a trickery slope. You can't simply measure one's joy against another. Taking away the champ may reduce their joy, but that champ being in the game reduces my joy. It isn't about taking control and saying "my way or high way". yeah see this guy gets it, i do like the idea of mastery rank being a thing. maybe some sort of mastery rank towards reworks, i reached m7 malzahar before the rework and honestly don't like the new one, i'm just not that good with it, so do i think i can still play a m7 malzahar? hells no. i'm suggesting some sort of mastery rank reset based on versions but the question that brings up is i don't want my rank taken away, i earned that. and hovering a champ and getting it first is a risk ya sometimes gotta take, i see that all the time in lcs, and thats kind of the nature of the game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Trap Bunny Maid,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:47:32.756+0000) > > well seeing as you tried typing in a earlier post calling me a birch you clearly meant it to call me a bitch. you were being hateful towards me with some type of satirical outline. > > as for chunk spice goop, i actually have no idea and think you cherry picked 3 words followed by 3 random words. > > i'm at a loss of where to continue this because i'm not sure how to put it into words. > > just because the intention of a word rigga, duck used in place of a bad word, doesn't make it any less offensive. why would a child yell frick instead of fuck. they mean the exact same thing. crap and shit. guess what the same thing. but society has this weird perspective oh, well it isn't that specific word so its alright, but yet THEIR USED in the exact same place. so how do they not mean that and why are they not the same thing according to society...... > > i'ma leave it at that each of those words "Chunk, Spice, Goop" is one letter away from being a racial slur. My point is that if you are looking there are plenty of words out there that could be "mistaken" as offensive and/or racist terms.
> [{quoted}](name=Brauminator,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:59:13.810+0000) > > each of those words "Chunk, Spice, Goop" is one letter away from being a racial slur. My point is that if you are looking there are plenty of words out there that could be "mistaken" as offensive and/or racist terms. ah yeah i see it now, good hiding,
: Birch, Bass, Duck, Chunk, Spice, Goop. Quick OP tell me what hidden racist/offensive agenda is behind these words!
> [{quoted}](name=Brauminator,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:41:01.999+0000) > > Birch, Bass, Duck, Chunk, Spice, Goop. Quick OP tell me what hidden racist/offensive agenda is behind these words! well seeing as you tried typing in a earlier post calling me a birch you clearly meant it to call me a bitch. you were being hateful towards me with some type of satirical outline. as for chunk spice goop, i actually have no idea and think you cherry picked 3 words followed by 3 random words. i'm at a loss of where to continue this because i'm not sure how to put it into words. just because the intention of a word rigga, duck used in place of a bad word, doesn't make it any less offensive. why would a child yell frick instead of fuck. they mean the exact same thing. crap and shit. guess what the same thing. but society has this weird perspective oh, well it isn't that specific word so its alright, but yet THEIR USED in the exact same place. so how do they not mean that and why are they not the same thing according to society...... i'ma leave it at that
: > [{quoted}](name=Tharizdûn,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:35:00.430+0000) > > Oof, don't attract attention to player names, OP. You never know when yours might be banned for "transphobia". > > ######I love trap maids in animal costumes, don't judge me. https://pics.me.me/youve-activated-my-trap-card-29649931.png
> [{quoted}](name=Worst Brad Japan,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:40:57.286+0000) > > https://pics.me.me/youve-activated-my-trap-card-29649931.png <3{{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Pale Mask (EUW)
: Oof, don't attract attention to player names, OP. You never know when yours might be banned for transphobia.
> [{quoted}](name=Tharizdûn,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:35:00.430+0000) > > Oof, don&#x27;t attract attention to player names, OP. You never know when yours might be banned for &quot;transphobia&quot;. > > ######I love trap maids in animal costumes, don&#x27;t judge me. ha good one, i honestly don't have a good response at the moment, but....i enjoy femboi's, i like trap astetics, i am a furry, cottontail teemo is my favorite skin/champion. he has traps. he has bunny outfit, only thing missing is some cute maid accessories. i honestly strive for the trap look even though i am on HRT for MtF i don't find trap offensive but actually a great way to bring attention to a multitude of people that trap is okay. doesn't mean its gay. straight or anything. just a person who wants to look andro
: > [{quoted}](name=Trap Bunny Maid,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:20:51.068+0000) > > how many words can you find that end in igga? Most slang words that end in -ger. Digger>digga (typically used in relation to a gold-digger), for example.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:32:53.485+0000) > > Most slang words that end in -ger. Digger&gt;digga (typically used in relation to a gold-digger), for example. digga? bruh i've heard of a gold digga in speech but i've never ever once seen it on paper. digga is honestly more of a accent of where you come from and the pronunciation of the word digger based upon where you grew up (accent) edit: also digga is not a word
Chermorg (NA)
: Just because all you think of is hate speech doesn't mean that's what others do. That sounds like a personal problem you should fix.
> [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:34:07.417+0000) > > Just because all you think of is hate speech doesn&#x27;t mean that&#x27;s what others do. That sounds like a personal problem you should fix. again, clearly stated that i am curious as to what OGRigga means. hence the creation of this post
: Rigga is slang for Rigger. I think you are being childish in this post and trying to bring attention to something that has no real affect on you but you would like to cause trouble anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=JimTheSnail,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:25:42.102+0000) > > Rigga is slang for Rigger. I think you are being childish in this post and trying to bring attention to something that has no real affect on you but you would like to cause trouble anyway. i've literally never heard the word rigga once. i've worked on multiple construction sites. i've gone to truck plants. i've worked with churches and no machine builds only carpentry. never ever heard it once. just googled rigga came up with this Rigga Slang name for a fellow rower (crew mate) who takes part in rigging boats. Rower 1: "Yo rigga, grab me some tools for this boat" Rower 2: "Alright rigga, let me finish rigging this first." how is that not a alternative form of the n word also came back with this Rigga A term that is an alternative to the word "Ni***" Which in many people's opinions, only black people can say. Rigga you better fucking give me that money directly taken from google you were saying?
: Because either picks or bans have to come first. Which makes the most sense for that to be bans. There are plenty of acceptable reasons to ban a champ. .1. New/reworked champ. Ban because don't trust myself to be able to deal with it or a team mate to play it. .2. Pick or Ban Champ. There are times when certain things need pucked or banned. If we can't secure first or there are multiple for a patch, one or more get banned. Also may not trust team mate with it just because it was labeled "Freelo/S tier" on a list. .3. Fuck that Champ. There are just champs you absolutely hate and never want to see in a match. For me those include Nasus, Darius, and Blitz to just name 3. Depends which position I am playing, but safe to say one of those is gone. Also can apply to FOTM champs. .4. Horrible Win rate. I bothered to check and you have a 30% wr on a specific champ in ranked. Nah, that one is gone. Maybe you will discover a pocket pick now. Sure, there are cases where people will do it in hopes of you giving up the lane or dodging; but doesn't mean should lose the ability to ban for others.
i'm not convinced that the ability to ban teammate picks is a good idea. HOWEVER i do like the idea of a re-work champion or new champion to be not available in ranked for 2weeks. almost every other game requires you to have reached some certain skill level with a champion or time delays them before ranked we could also look at cs:go waiting on the new mp5 weapon balancing before letting players play with it in competitive. i understand where you're coming from with bullet point number 3 but it still doesn't make it okay in my book to ban someone's champ. you have denied them the joy of how they want to play the game. you've literally commandeered the ship saying you're the captain now, you've opted to not work with your teammates and say my way is the only way.
: I assumed it meant Rigger, as some sort of reference to champion Riggs.
> [{quoted}](name=Tenth Leper,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:24:33.361+0000) > > I assumed it meant Rigger, as some sort of reference to champion Riggs. so Rigger (still could be easily read as N) even though rigger is a actual word, why shorten it to rigga a slang word of a bad word, when you're a riot name and can clearly claim the name riot ogrigger. also i like the idea that it could be a referrence to riggs, but i'm not entirely sold on that's it
: Are you okay? The logic of this post is "when I read this name I see something racist that isn't actually there, but I'm going to act like it's there even though I know it isn't just to start some drama."
> [{quoted}](name=Brauminator,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:17:48.910+0000) > > Are you okay? The logic of this post is &quot;when I read this name I see something racist that isn&#x27;t actually there, but I&#x27;m going to act like it&#x27;s there even though I know it isn&#x27;t just to start some drama.&quot; ehh yeah i'm fine, but also i clearly stated in my post, that i'm coming from a curiosity frame of mind. i actually am more offended that you tried to paint me out to be some snowflake (re-reads this comment....OH GAWD I AM(ironic-kidding)). but just because someone else see's something that you can't see doesn't mean it's not there. for example if your eyes are closed and don't see a train coming, it's still gonna run you over if you're on the tracks. so maybe i'm a galaxy brain boi atm seeing some weird hidden intentions.
: tigga plz https://imgur.com/a/JwqGzMF
> [{quoted}](name=HellawhiteIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:19:41.899+0000) > > tigga plz > > https://imgur.com/a/JwqGzMF[] ha very funny, also his name is tigger (which i know, you knew but still funny, very quipy of you wink)
: do all terms with -igga in it gonna be associated with the n word?
> [{quoted}](name=GarenStoleMyBike,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd084Qa1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-23T18:14:29.499+0000) > > do all terms with -igga in it gonna be associated with the n word? how many words can you find that end in igga?
Xhaiden (EUNE)
: You're Silver 4. Most of your opponents were Silver 5 and Bronze 1 - 3 - so, what you described above is quite normal for this leagues. Simply put it - most summoners from those league are beginners - still struggling with the basics. They get tilted for being bad at the game (they don't understand why they die, what most champions can do or what they're suppose to do). Even more than that - they don't even understand what they're doing wrong (like - not helping the jg). If you manage to reach Silver 1 or Gold - you won't have to deal with some of those issues anymore. Tough, people will still get mad due to bad choices - or even worst - when they're being flamed by other players (that's usually the worst thing you can do - since they already feel bad for failing - so getting criticized for a past mistake - only adds more salt to their wounds). That's something you can see even in the highest leagues like Challenger. The reasons for getting banned - seem to be already pretty strict. Yet, inefficient against the worst of the LoL community. Since most of the heavily toxic players got banned multiple times - and they got so used to the idea of making a new account - that now they're immune to bans (they can be as toxic as possible - while feeling untouchable). Even IP Bans can't solve that issue - cause they'll just hide their IP behind a VPN. Some even take pride in that and add it to their name (Banned X Times, xth Banned account).
false. i have reached silver 1, i have reached gold. i still deal with these exact same issues. reason i failed gold promos this season. a troll. in 2 of the 3 games. rank should not have anything to do with trolls. i can understand where you're coming from about beginners being in that area of elo. but i'm not a beginner i've played since season 3. i won all 10 placement matches before and actually got placed bronze TWICE. the system is rigged (thank god their changing it) and on criticizing them for past mistakes i totally get that, thats why i try to enforce the positives like, nice job holding the tower, or hey great job on taking the tower. it happens all the time and i don't think riot is pro-actively doing anything to help edit: and trolling and flaming teammates being a normal for that elo. read that again. trolling and flaming teammates is a normal, for that elo. do you even hear what you just wrote, how is that even possible. that riot has allowed this monstrosity to grow. that it is normal for players to troll/throw/int/grief/feed/flame. thats the normal. i'm glad you wrote that because it means you realize that this is a problem for riot and something needs to change
Rioter Comments
: reporting players does not feel good. riot lets work together to stop the trolls
Does anyone have suggestions on how to fix this{{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: Unsportmanship in this game is getting higher
i've always reported people for negative attittude who do a ggez
Sephibro (EUW)
: This smells to me like the usual silver player who's stuck in there because of their teammates
this isn't about me. this is about the trolls that encompass the game and why riot is dragging their feet.
Nea104 (EUW)
: I'm actually not sure their system works fine, or works at all. The intentional afk-er, troller and inter guy (**29** deaths, no items) who ruined one of mine Odyssey games apparently hasn't been punished at all. This kinda makes you feel "allowed" to do the same in some other people's games. Of course I don't, but someone else could. And this is not how a good company manages its own community, anyway.
wow, thats umm..tons of deaths :) feeling allowed to troll/grief let me take a minute to think on that....1:50pm 1:53pm yeah i would 100% agree with that statement. just like how you're allowed to ban teammate champions why does riot allow us to do that when we can totally ban them with malicious intent to cause spiteful attitudes and get others all riled up. it doesn't make sense.
: > [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NdmpEJey,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-09-23T02:22:44.559+0000) > > This is a you problem. You have an unhealthy and abnormal desire to enjoy the punishment of others. > > Reporting isn&#x27;t about the justice for you. It&#x27;s a flex of your proverbial muscle. It&#x27;s you proving your horse is big. > > That&#x27;s a problem with your attitude, not one Riot will support, nor will virtually anyone else in life. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Trap Bunny Maid,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NdmpEJey,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2018-09-23T08:40:48.407+0000) > > so yasuo is my number 1 banned champion because of that reason almost entirely. also doesn&#x27;t help that i consider myself a adc main who loves toplane, but is forced to adc because i can&#x27;t trust any adc to properly do their job.... > > ANYWAYS back to topic of yasuo 1/12. i&#x27;ve recently been thinking about teammates and what i expect from them. honestly i would rather have a 0/0 teammate than a 5/5 teammate. a 0/0 teammate to me is like a golden egg that i just can never find. In all honesty a 5/5 teammate can be far superior than a 0/0 teammate and vice versa. It depends on who they gave the 5 kills to and how. Sometimes all five of the kills the guy gets or even 4 or 3 could be shut down kills then the 5 deaths accompanied are very worth imo. Say for example im playing lux vs ori; a lane that goes even. Ori gets 2 kills on lux whilst lux gets one but it is a shut down for 450 g. Lux comes back gets another kill for 300. That's 2/2 but you are up 150 gold on the other person. Put that into a 5/5 context and even bigger shutdowns, etc. the 5/5 would be very worth. In another spectrum if you had the ori who is now down much more gold due to timing of the kills the 5/5 is worse than the 0/0. I always think even if the player has died a lot of times if each death was properly spaced and got you a kill or better in return its worth and was very important in fact. Most of my lux games mid I do trashy early go about 1/4/4 then around teamfights pick it up to 4/6/18 and win teamfights. But that means I still have to heavily rely on my team there. The problem with the state of the game is not trolls and reporting satisfaction or anything along those lines. The only reason this season is far worse than any other season previous is because this is the only season you can not solo carry if the rest of your team cannot stay on your page. In previous seasons I could play well and since my game knowledge would exceed the enemy team's I would be able to solo carry by simply positioning and using map awareness. In previous seasons I didn't play as many as I did this season but I can tell you, even if you have vastly superior game knowledge to everyone and great timing, if your team can not keep up you will lose and get flamed. The fact that you can no longer solo carry games essentially added to the fact someone is tilted, toxic, bad at the game or poor game knowledge makes it that much harder to win games leaving you tilted. In previous seasons if one person afk and the 4 of you either had good game knowledge or simply played carefully they would have an equal chance until everyone got close to full builds (this is depending on the selection of champs as well tho tbh). This season is almost impossible to 4v5 unless all 4 of you are ahead or have the better game knowledge, mechanics, etc. Before it used to be if just the one did good he could fill another role now it feels like if one does bad he adds 2 more roles to the enemy team. Idk this system is def flawed.
you are absolutely correct about shut down gold being rewarded and who got the kills on the enemy team. for example. the mid laner of your team, roams bot and kills the adc, but dies to the soraka support. not a bad trade, you'll take it. but it does not fit my playstyle, i'm 100% confident i can carry the game as long as i have teammates who do not die early and group. but when i have teammates that refuse to work together almost every game why do i even bother. i usually play with 2 friends, switching between them for ranked. both of them are super fun supports (one is way better than the other) the problem we have. is that if my good support friend is with me, there is a position on our team elsewhere on the map that he could probably be doing better( hes a even better jungler/top laner than a support) and he would love to play top lane or jungle because he is better and mad at ours for.....dying/notganking/notobjectiveclearing. so when i play with good support friend we're forced to spread our skill across the map to reach a wider skill per sq footage in hopes of preventing teammate mistakes. that is why i prefer a 0/0 teammate
: Another reasons why I tried to avoid Ranked games. Everytime i tried, I always met with a troll/trolls or int feeders who just using their smurf accounts to ruin other people's game...Ranked games like this really made me pulling my hair from anger and frustration.....Ranked games are not enjoyable when these people running around.....
: Or! we're tired of the 1:12 yasuo inting because we asked him to stop diving 1v5 into the enemy and just want toxic players removed so everyone else can enjoy the game and actually climb.
so yasuo is my number 1 banned champion because of that reason almost entirely. also doesn't help that i consider myself a adc main who loves toplane, but is forced to adc because i can't trust any adc to properly do their job.... ANYWAYS back to topic of yasuo 1/12. i've recently been thinking about teammates and what i expect from them. honestly i would rather have a 0/0 teammate than a 5/5 teammate. a 0/0 teammate to me is like a golden egg that i just can never find.
: i agree. unfortunately, its been like this since season 2 :/ (could have been longer but thats when i started playing)
i started early season 3. but i kept up to date with it before then. i would say you're definitely right. and guess what we can stop it in season 8 basically 9 though now.... we CAN stop it in season 9 :D it's never too late to stop the toxicity :) good on you
Chermorg (NA)
: Nobody. This is a toxic attitude that needs to be called out.
: > [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NdmpEJey,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-09-23T02:22:44.559+0000) > > This is a you problem. You have an unhealthy and abnormal desire to enjoy the punishment of others. > > Reporting isn&#x27;t about the justice for you. It&#x27;s a flex of your proverbial muscle. It&#x27;s you proving your horse is big. > > That&#x27;s a problem with your attitude, not one Riot will support, nor will virtually anyone else in life. Whoa dude. Who hurt you?
(cough after my last reply to him i'm pretty sure it's safe to say i did tons of damage wink) edit: cough cough v2 i also hope someone caught my pun in the reply :3
Chermorg (NA)
: This is a you problem. You have an unhealthy and abnormal desire to enjoy the punishment of others. Reporting isn't about the justice for you. It's a flex of your proverbial muscle. It's you proving your horse is big. That's a problem with your attitude, not one Riot will support, nor will virtually anyone else in life.
> [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NdmpEJey,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-09-23T02:22:44.559+0000) > > This is a you problem. You have an unhealthy and abnormal desire to enjoy the punishment of others. > > Reporting isn&#x27;t about the justice for you. It&#x27;s a flex of your proverbial muscle. It&#x27;s you proving your horse is big. > > That&#x27;s a problem with your attitude, not one Riot will support, nor will virtually anyone else in life. hello, thank you for comment and providing a interesting topic of what my subject might be. first i would like to clarify a big misconception people might have with this thread. I do not take comfort in reporting players. I do not want to receive enjoyment from other players being reported. secondly i would like to point out that just because i wrote "reporting players does not feel good" does not mean i want it to feel good. it actually only has one meaning. i feel awful that i would have to deny someone that is the joy of a beautiful well structured 5v5 game with a rich background and lore, a amazing cosplay community etc, etc etc. thirdly i can count 3 people in this thread alone that "technically" have supported me virtually. thanks to the upvotes i can actually count that. {{champion:202}} NOW lets get back to the topic of what this is about please. this negative behavior of you insinuating i'm some kind of sadist/masochist is not beneficial to the topics i pointed out in the original thread so your comment actually has 0 place being here ans has not only distracted the original intents of the thread, making the community better, the game better. but has also now distracted us from doing just that. your very comment has actually done the exact thing i've basically pointed out about griefing. one could infer that your comment is basically a top lane jax running it down top(the thread) and refuses to groupfight (us the commentators) trying to cause spiteful intentions.
: when half the time u type directions and ur team just says stfu or fuck you, its kinda pointless. but i do understand what you are saying, there is a tactical element to this game that we need to harness, but sometimes cannot due to players unwillingness to play the TEAM game.
exactly but also that's not the issue i'm having. i'm almost willing to work with someone who only goes top lane all game. i'll just get my teammates to group up, and then go top with them (now when they run away after we group is a different issue) my issue is how can i take comfort in the fact that riot is doing things to change this when i've literally had 2 games in a row of the exact same thing. reporting people almost seems useless. in the time i could take to type a report up, have it sent, i could already be in another loading screen, with the same trolls. chances are slim. but like. you get what i'm saying. i don't think riot is doing a good job or even a job of managing trolls.
: I mean you could start a petition if you want, though I think just explaining how you feel in the Player Behavior board is likely your best bet
: Inting or trolling in ranked is much worse than flaming/being toxic in my opinion, at least u can mute someone to stop hearing their terrible attitude, u cant physically stop them from walking mid and inting though. i believe there is a worse issue at hand with players who dont care and troll or int but play ranked, as opposed to toxicity (which is also really bad) delete in game chat and have ping system for talking similar to hearthstone.
i ended up muting them. but honestly that does take away maybe some strategic elements. how am i suppose to tell my team through pings to bait baron or guys we need to do a 4/1 split, or how about please buy more pinks.
: reporting players does not feel good. riot lets work together to stop the trolls
reposted this from general discussion and ask the community because this is something that we need to be talking about. i would like to update the post with something though. after failing my friend's promos to get him out of bronze, the very next game we played 5 hours later or something had the exact same issue. literally identical. i almost want to quit league until this has been fixed.
Rioter Comments
: I recommend you repost this over in the [Player Behavior](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation) section. This sub-board is mainly for asking community members with help on something, such as fixing a tech issue or understanding a game mechanic. As such, there are not many looking for discussions here, and it is highly unlikely anyone in Riot will see the post here. Player Behavior is far more populated so far more people will see it, including (but no promises) the chance Riot will see it.
i will do that, but i still want to leave it here, because i think just demanding riot to fix something without ideas is kinda selfish, do you have any ideas we could put together? like a petition?
: Reporting players should not feel good. You should not feel like you are enacting justice here, you're just doing paperwork for Riot. The Tribunal was nice, but had issues that would have required a lot more work to fix than was worth it. Players are punished and banned every day. That's not the problem with the current punishment system. Trolls are allowed to play ranked because everyone is allowed to play ranked, and there is no quick and easy way to tell if someone is a troll by using an automated system. Unskilled players have their place in League. If you don't want to be matched with them maybe you should get better at the game.
> [{quoted}](name=redniwediS,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=16ecQAoe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-21T21:53:36.669+0000) > > Unskilled players have their place in League. If you don&#x27;t want to be matched with them maybe you should get better at the game. i'm not sure you understood my question. i asked WHY riot allowed us to report unskilled. not if unskilled deserve to play league. not i hate matching with unskilled players. i just want to know why riot thought it was a good idea to report unskilled. a easy way to tell if someone has been trolling is to check out the report history of that account. boom ban/place them in iron. so becuase the tribunal needs more work to fix it its not worth it? i totally disagree. i think the tribunal was the start of a beautiful relationship between players and a company. letting players in on things. i literally brough it up that some form of tribunal needs to come back in some changes. so for the comment you posed we have, reporting players should not feel good. and you are absolutely right i 100% agree with you. i hate that there is a report button. that there are players out there malicious intent and we have to police them. in a perfect world, no report button would exist. and players are punished and banned every day. what proof do you have? has riot provided us with some tool or graph or data? maybe some sort of api? i would love to know more on how you got that information. 2 lines of your comment have furthered the discussion of this post, and i thank ye kindly
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: NO BLUE ESSENCE MISSION
i miss influence points. blue essence actually sucks bad. at least let us win blue essence every game like old system >.>
: Blue Essence
blue essence is riots answer of micro transactions and lootboxes. not hextech chests. blue essence is to get rid of influence points. forcing players to spend money on newer goods aka champs. because we wont have the blue essence saved up. because we're spending a crap load of it on champ mastery. blue essence is a scam!
Porocles (NA)
: Post game rewards currently grant XP and not BE, but there are[ discussions in this thread](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/pt/c/developer-corner/Jh3Mtzu6-blue-essence-earn-rates-learning-the-numbers-with-carl-and-henrietta) that may change that in the future. You can find BE through honor, master, and leveling though.
are you sure i can find blue essence through leveling because i just hit 36 and got a warwick shard and amu shard, which is some pretty crappy scaling. when i delete 4 rows of champion shards to get a single champion unlock *zoe* something is wrong with the game. if it was influence points i would have her unlocked. i can't even re roll champ shards to get her now. blue essence is made to screw the player base!
: Thoughts about Blue essence
riot changed the game to be like starwars battlefront 2 lootboxes iwth level up. its garbage. absolute garbage
: [SurrenderAt20] Supposed changes to BE system. Can anyone compare?
this is strictly worse. with the current system if you want to get champion shards for a level 6 or 7 mastery token easier with now. instead we'll have to level up EVEN MORE to get the tokens we need for that champion instead of the freaking blue essence. i'm telling you this is bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lyte (NA)
: Rewards for positive play
i know i have said some very slur things and sometimes i havn't meant them to be because i have a very chaotic thinking process, and think some people understand what i'm saying(typing) but no one actually does and i know have said some stuff, so please post some chat logs from me?
: SR Open Beta live in all queues
URF OR WE RIOT on this map waiting for urf
Veraska (NA)
: LETS FIND ALL THE MAINS! A MAIN FOR EVERY CHAMPION!
teemo main "because hes the devil reincarnated so much fun to see solo que rage and how players play differently towards him.
: Anyone here loving Gnar as much as I am?
play gnar top against me i dare you. (aatr0x) (sion) win lane
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