: no I need to speak to someone directly because this stuff has got to stop and I don't want some automated damn reply
> [{quoted}](name=thajudge31,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eHGdgA3h,comment-id=0082,timestamp=2019-05-20T20:36:11.099+0000) > > no I need to speak to someone directly because this stuff has got to stop and I don't want some automated damn reply Them I'm afraid I cannot help you, as I am not aware of any way to get a direct line to a Rioter who would be in a position to assist you. Sorry.
: I need to speak to someone immediately over this bs suspension system you all have at riot!
> [{quoted}](name=thajudge31,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eHGdgA3h,comment-id=0081,timestamp=2019-05-20T20:29:53.888+0000) > > I need to speak to someone immediately over this bs suspension system you all have at riot! Send a ticket to **Player Support**! I'm just a boards moderator, and cannot assist you with in-game suspensions.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jiTEYkNM,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T20:08:15.195+0000) > > That's zero-tolerance language, as it's HATE SPEECH, not a curse word. You'd get an immediate 14-day ban. So wait if its an auto ban word then why not have it perma filtered because there is basically no point in having it exist in the game
> [{quoted}](name=JungleChopper,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jiTEYkNM,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T20:10:56.035+0000) > > So wait if its an auto ban word then why not have it perma filtered because there is basically no point in having it exist in the game Because filters are easy to work around. It's easier to *not* filter the word and punish those using it than try to solve for every possible filter workaround someone could try. Say "Cat" was banned, for example. Is "C4T"? What about "Caat?" What about "C@T"? All of those get the point across.
: > [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jiTEYkNM,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-20T19:51:57.388+0000) > > No one reports for swears. If someone fucking reports you for fucking using the word fuck, then their report goes into the mother fucking trash. > > What is reported is chat related harassment and slurs, as that is actually taking aim at someone. Real question, what if I said "im a (insert N word)" and somebody reported me would that be ok because i kinnda wanna say that now if its all ok when im not directing it at someone else
> [{quoted}](name=JungleChopper,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jiTEYkNM,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-05-20T19:58:49.201+0000) > > Real question, what if I said "im a (insert N word)" and somebody reported me would that be ok because i kinnda wanna say that now if its all ok when im not directing it at someone else That's zero-tolerance language, as it's HATE SPEECH, not a curse word. You'd get an immediate 14-day ban.
: I don't like tattoos on girls
I think we've had enough of this. While i appreciate you don't like tattoos, selecting a specific gender to focus on and adding comments like "*Also, here's another thing for any girl reading this. Studies have shown girls with tattoos have more sex, but they also are far less likely to be in committed relationships. So choose which is more important to you*" take this from "here's an opinion I'd like to share" to "here's me giving unwanted opinions on a personal decision and saying you may want to reconsider how you live your lives due to your "decreased aesthetic value" and "less likely committed relationship." That's not really okay here. By all means share your dislike for tattoos, but keep away from gender-focused condescension toward those who don't share your opinion. #Thread locked.
: stop banning people for talking shit, riot and the player base are SOOOOOOOO SOYYYYYYYYYYYYY
As per the updated **Player Behavior Rules:** >While we understand the need to vent from time to time, threads that only serve to start drama and provoke arguments are subject to removal as low-effort per the Universal Guidelines. > Additionally, threads whose sole intent is to vent, rage, or express displeasure without regard to reform or assistance (i.e., “shitposting”) will be removed per low-effort. We want this Board to be a genuine avenue of reform and guidance, not a whining ground. Thread locked.
: plz unban me rito
> [{quoted}](name=Gorderkiller,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8jEOizAN,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-20T17:34:36.754+0000)rito i reformed Cool! Let's see if your post shows your new reformed behavior, and thus indicates that anyone at Riot should take a second look here. >unban me idiots >my supp was a kid >brainless su >stop bein a cuck >cause hes brainless >i wont feed *unless* i get brainless kid on team again >how do u even alive? >brainless sups downvoting >nice work trolls >rito should ban u ...nope. Insults to your other players and the boards community, an assumption that your behavior was correct and appropriate due to your teammate's actions, an admission you *might* feed again if you don't like your teammates, and calling Riot "idiots" and questioning how they're alive. This make it seem pretty clear that you are *not* reformed. ##Also, as this thread contains a good number of insults towards other players and community members in your responses, I'm going to go ahead and lock it.
: You can literally turn on chat filter so why do you report bad words
Some players don't like cursing. The chat filter exists so that players who are okay with cursing can curse all they want. Remember, this game is ages 13+, but enough uses of the word "fuck" can merit an R-rating, so this option exists for players who don't want to see "Fuck that fucking fuck Yasuo and his fucking OP bullshit." It is *not* intended as an excuse to use insults, hatespeech, or other offensive behavior.
FkValeRly (EUW)
: Your content has been removed
>nah, the boards will tell you you're a toxic %%%% though. That particular word is a crass insult with both sexual and misogynistic overtones. As a result -- and although we know some countries view its casual usage differently -- it is on our list of zero tolerance words. Also, calling any player who chooses to use chat a "12 year old christian boy that has never used a potty word in his life" is a bit disrespectful to those of us who leave chat on.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=iaQmpZMi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-20T01:56:33.973+0000) > > This is stronger than every existing burst rune by a rather large margin, both in terms of output on the characters who get it and in terms of frequency. *Every* AD-based champion would get this rune. Adaptive Crit? Adaptive Crit meaning the basic attack will change to deal damage based on your most powerful power resource, not scale by it. If Ahri has 700 AP and 120 AD, the crit will deal 240 magic damage. First off, the adaptive crit is always going off how much your basic attack does, not a complete scaling of it. Again, if Ahri has 700 Ability Power and 120 Attack Damage, it changes the Attack Damage into magic damage while still seeming like a crit. ( It would have the ability crit icon on-hit rather than the orange normal crit icon. ) I'm sorry if I didn't specify. And yes, 105 - 125% bonus. A crit deal 200% of your normal basic attack. If you think this is 100% from basic attack + 105 - 125%, you're wrong. So I edited it to be 5 - 25% so it doesn't confuse anyone else. So every 2 / 0.5 seconds without basic attacking, the next basic attack deals 5 - 25% bonus damage based on your highest damaging stat. I actually expected you to spaz about the 2 - 10% crit damage increase.
That changed significantly helps. It is important to note that you originally wrote it would deal a 105% *bonus* damage, not 105% damage. This is why I was concerned, as bonus damage implies damage that is simply added on. IE deals 225% *damage*, not 225% *bonus* damage. That said, you are correct that I don't like the bonus crit damage. The damage values concerned be enough that I didn't mention it, but I think all that really does is make this almost a mandatory choice for any based characters, when they might otherwise have a wider selection of possibilities. Given how crit scales, I can't think of a single crit-based character who would sacrifice a 10% damage boost, especially is, unlike original stormrazor, this seems to be an attack enhancement rather than a crit replacement, so it stacks with critical hit builds just fine and, in doing so, becomes almost mandatory.
: Bringing back old Stormrazor as a Greater Rune.
>Every 2 - 0.5 seconds without attacking, ( Based on bonus attack speed. ) your next basic attack will crit for 105 - 125% ( based on level ) bonus adaptive damage. This is stronger than every existing burst rune by a rather large margin, both in terms of output on the characters who get it and in terms of frequency. *Every* AD-based champion would get this rune.
: 2.5 ATTACK SPEED OVER HIGHLANDER DURATION IS 17.5 WHICH ROUNDS TO 17. DAMAGE FROM 2100 HP NO RESIST TARGET. DAMAGE IS CALCULATED. IDK WHY THIS IS NECESSARY BUT THATS WHAT IT IS.
> [{quoted}](name=Street Reaperr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EUAdeWEe,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-19T23:12:47.225+0000) > > 2.5 ATTACK SPEED OVER HIGHLANDER DURATION IS 17.5 WHICH ROUNDS TO 17. > > DAMAGE FROM 2100 HP NO RESIST TARGET. > DAMAGE IS CALCULATED. > > IDK WHY THIS IS NECESSARY BUT THATS WHAT IT IS. And the build/runes you're assuming Yi has here?
: WTF DID YOU DO TO MASTER YI!!!!!???? WITH DPS+MATH INCLUDED 9.9 VS 9.10
...there's a LOT of math missing here, such as why you picked 17 attacks, where you're getting the damage from, etc.
: Kinda funny that you're all for "freedom" when it just means you have to do less work. But whatever. It's mods like you and the others who simply like to abuse their power and respond with, "shut the fuck up I'm the boss" to every criticism that make the boards a place Riot can't actually take seriously.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=hiv35E27,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-19T20:32:17.915+0000) > > Kinda funny that you're all for "freedom" when it just means you have to do less work. > But whatever. It's mods like you and the others who simply like to abuse their power and respond with, "shut the fuck up I'm the boss" to every criticism that make the boards a place Riot can't actually take seriously. Actually, I'd *rather* crack down harder on that sort of thing (as a personal stance). The community doesn't *want* that level of crack-down, for the most part. We've asked. I'm sorry that's not what you like, but insulting me personally doesn't really help in any way.
: sadly it is harder to convince someone he has been fooled than to fool someone.... I i said before, did you actually watch the series and think? Every 2 mins there was a play that IG made that they would have not even considered making before. Ryze Ult into orianna. orianna R 3 people and IG get smashed... like a bronze player may be impressed by that but comon, what did you expect would happen. lee sin level 14, reksai level 13, doesent go for the steal but fights instead-.- like srsly, you really think a tier 1 team makes those mistakes -.- This is just 2 out of atleast 50 extrem examples in this series where IG went for obv bad moves that even my hardstuck trashelo brain can see. I understand that even tier 1 team can make mistakes and really bad calls. But bad call after bad call and again another one. 20 sec later the next bad mistake. And I get what you all are saying with A beats B , B beats C , and C beats A and yeah, thats totally possible if the teams are somewhat close in skill. But G2 just smashed TL , 0 chance, 0 hope, 0 anything And IG smashed G2 with 0 chance And in a BO1 TL can take a game off of any team in the world. But in a BO5 its close to 0 to beat IG let alone 3-1. if A smashes B, B smahes C, sry, but C winning against A is close to 0.....
> [{quoted}](name=Druid Eldric,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=do6E8pKl,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-05-19T20:02:04.994+0000)if A smashes B, B smahes C, sry, but C winning against A is close to 0..... That's entirely untrue. Heck, by this example **Rock / Paper / Scissors** wouldn't work. Rock destroys scissors, and scissors beat paper, so clearly rock *has* to beat paper. But it doesn't. Why? Because what allowed A to beat B may not be something that works against C. While C's weaknesses might be exploited by B, A might not be as good at exploiting those same weaknesses. We see this sort of thing frequently in games, sports, etc.
: That's a pretty long-winded way of saying the mods are too lazy to do what they signed up for. By definition venting and empty complaining are not topics that belong in DISCUSSION. I'd gladly become a mod to do the job if every existing mod is too lazy to do it.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=hiv35E27,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-19T18:50:49.677+0000)That's a pretty long-winded way of saying the mods are too lazy to do what they signed up for. It's more a long-winded way of saying that there's some ambiguity, and we err on the side of giving GD freedom, as GD often requests more freedom. I appreciate that you disagree, but "remove all venting from GD" is not and never has been part of what we signed up for. I know, because I've signed up for it.
: In no world can TL beat IG in a BO5! It was rigged!
> [{quoted}](name=Druid Eldric,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=do6E8pKl,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-19T18:28:54.122+0000)Fact 1: League of legends has been declining in the west for many years now. Its no secret. Everybody that has a brain knows that League was actually growing up until around 2017, and has only taken a about a 20% drop since then, which is a relatively reasonable drop considering how high they peaked. The fact that they are "losing huge amounts of players" seems based in no meaningful data. About the best way to calculate this is to look at the available ranked data, which gives players playing ranked. By that basis EUW lost about 300000 players from 2016 and NA lost about 200000, both from player pools of about 2.9 million and 1.8 million. That means that League spiked in 2016 in NA and 2017 in EUW, but the numbers on either side of those spikes are consistent -- from 2015 to 2018 EUW ended slightly higher than their 2015 values, and NA ended slightly lower. That implies a spike and a return to normality rather than a massive loss over "many years," and that's assuming that trend is mirror in casual play, which is something we don't really have data on. > Fact 2: Tencent, a chinese company owns league of legends. Basically they have the saying what happens to future league of legends. ***Tencent*** is fairly well known for being rather hands-off with *League*, actually. They've owned a controlling share for about six years now, and *League* has just sort of been doing its thing. > The smart move for Tecent would be to make IG lose to TL to boost league in the west again. Wow... a NA team in the finals. Massive puplicity for the game. Getting people hyped and interested again. A company will do whatever it takes to keep high profits. Or...or...bear with me here...maybe you're not as correct as you think when you say that victory was *impossible*. At some point we have to acknowledge that a team winning a match they weren't expected to win *can* and *does* happen (underdog victories have happened all the time in *League's* competitive history), and that's significantly *more* likely than all the (independently owned/operated) eSports organizations being okay with throwing a game and thus their chances of making money. > Now this here is a guess, but I would asume that the money Riot (Tencent) makes from League is mostly from the west. The west (your average western player) just has so much more money to spend than someone from the east. I'm pretty sure this is simply guesswork, and somewhat biased guesswork at that, as there are many well-off individuals in many non-western countries. Korea alone is about 20% larger than EUW, and we don't even have the numbers for the Garena servers (save that it's *huge*).
: Rant posts do not belong on GD
This is very much the sort of situation that moderator discretion exists for. As a board, General Discussion has always been a place where pretty much anything is allowed to fly, and I don't want to lose too much of that through over moderation. In the case of threads complaining or venting specifically, there is a certain somewhat ambiguous area in which they are acceptable content for both boards. I would certainly be amenable to culling some of the more egregiously aggressive rant threads, but I think moving every venting or complaint thread to the Rant board would be over moderation of General Discussion.
: Yo if i jump *over* a cait trap, how tf did i trigger it?
League has no Z axis, and Caitlyn sets *very* tall traps.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2019-05-17T03:40:28.838+0000) > > We judge specific exceptions as they occur, and, as moderators, we do not have a "customer is always right" policy. why did you quote that specific thing in my specific post?
> [{quoted}](name=Calamitosus Cini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=0001000200000000,timestamp=2019-05-17T03:42:08.013+0000) > > why did you quote that specific thing in my specific post? The boards don't like quoting posts with parenthesis in them for whatever reason -- it messes up the quote, and you only see the stuff after the last closing parenthesis. I had meant to quote the entire post!
: Rank shame me please. "Roast me por favor?" Will the mods allow it?
As per the ***General Discussion Rules Update:*** >Always be respectful to players, community members, moderators, and Rioters. Joking with friends and playful teasing will not be removed. Flaming and insults specifically targeting someone (even in jest) is still against the rules and will be deleted. If the targeted player asks to stop, it is not considered a joke anymore and action will be taken as appropriate. > >***Threads asking for critique or teasing will be given some leeway ("Roast Me" threads, requests for account reviews etc).*** A thread owner can revoke consent at any time, at which point the thread will be subject to the normal rules of General Discussion. Emphasis mine. This seems fine, as long as the comments do not turn to flaming or overly aggressive personal insults.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:10:58.434+0000) > > Sure! You have a legal right to say a lot of things. > > You don't have a right to avoid the consequences for saying them in privately operated places that have rules against those statements. In this case sure -- you *can* post that stuff, and you won't face legal challenges from the government for doing so. That's your right to speech free from government intervention. Your content will end up being removed though, and your account may face punishment depending on the severity and your past offenses. That's because we have board rules against that. > > In short, the ***Universal Rules*** prohibit suggesting Riot employees be fired. If you ignore those rules on the boards, you will face the consequences for doing so. It's pretty clear-cut. remember DZK? Noone was banned for that.... I wasn't either and I am the one that exposed him. So yes We can Say fire "X Rioter" if there is a controversy because the customer is always right... except before certain times of course (wont say because that controversy is a dead horse of course)...... lol if you know the reference.......
> [{quoted}](name=Calamitosus Cini,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2019-05-17T01:04:11.277+0000)remember DZK? Noone was banned for that.... I wasn't either and I am the one that exposed him. So yes We can Say fire "X Rioter" if there is a controversy because the customer is always right... except before certain times of course [wont say because that controversy is a dead horse of course]...... lol if you know the reference....... We judge specific exceptions as they occur, and, as moderators, we do not have a "customer is always right" policy.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=jd8bO25Y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-16T23:42:02.432+0000) > > If you want to come to the Discord, I will be more than happy to explain my position on this, as someone who actually grew up on a farm in a very rural area. Is it the one named "lol community (LC)?
> [{quoted}](name=theveldman,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=jd8bO25Y,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-05-17T00:34:34.453+0000) > > Is it the one named "lol community (LC)? [It's this one.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification)
Myrmiron (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=jd8bO25Y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-16T22:11:48.852+0000) > > The thread effectively says **purchase this if you want to support these individuals**. Nothing more. It is not a political or social discussion. If you don't want to support LGBTQA individuals that is your prerogative, but the boards are not the place to discuss your religious beliefs about their identities or their morality, just like the boards are not the place for individuals to discuss their beliefs about your religion. > > The boards are also not the place to discuss your perception of which individuals or groups are being oppressed, nor which individuals or groups are doing the oppressing. Last time I checked it was only "LGBTQ+", now what's the A for?
> [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=jd8bO25Y,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T22:16:30.186+0000) > > Last time I checked it was only "LGBTQ+", now what's the A for? There are many different variations, hence the common LGBTQ+ or LGBTQA. Depending on your interpretation it can mean **axesual/aromantic** or it can mean **ally/advocate**.
: Hypocrisy
The thread effectively says **purchase this if you want to support these individuals**. Nothing more. It is not a political or social discussion. If you don't want to support LGBTQA individuals that is your prerogative, but the boards are not the place to discuss your religious beliefs about their identities or their morality, just like the boards are not the place for individuals to discuss their beliefs about your religion or *your* morality. The boards are also not the place to discuss your perception of which individuals or groups are being oppressed, nor which individuals or groups are doing the oppressing.
iiGazeii (NA)
: Can we get an early game monster?
Early game monsters released recently: * Sylas * Ornn * Camille * Kled * Illaoi * Aatrox rework * Urgot rework
DalekZec (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=000100010001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:48:06.782+0000) > > I frankly don't care what your specific issue with any particular individual is, although I do apologize if I incorrectly identified it. The point that you are not allowed to ask for an individual to be fired remains. Apology accepted. "The point that you are not allowed to ask for an individual to be fired remains." And my point still remains. No amount of bans will stop me. Yeah i'm that stubborn, but i love it.
> [{quoted}](name=DalekZec,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=0001000100010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:58:26.688+0000)And my point still remains. No amount of bans will stop me. Yeah i'm that stubborn, but i love it. Is this a statement that you will continue to violate the rules on this account?
DalekZec (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=0001000100010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:39:23.413+0000) > > Sure. So use arguments, logic, and evidence to make a case for the sort of change you want to see. That's totally fine. Calling for someone you dislike to be fired is not. It's that simple. Do you really think my opinion about ct is solely because i dislike him? Because if so, then you're missing a shit ton of points. Disliking someone is no excuse to have such opinion. It's far beyond that. Come on. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=DalekZec,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=00010001000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:44:57.789+0000)Do you really think my opinion about ct is solely because i dislike him? Because if so, then you're missing a shit ton of points. I frankly don't care what your specific issue with any particular individual is, although I do apologize if I incorrectly identified it. The point that you are not allowed to ask for an individual to be fired remains.
DalekZec (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=00010001000100010000,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:29:10.634+0000) > > Mostly because this sort of stuff is non-productive, can be heavily skewed by personal interpretation (someone made choices you felt were bad and threw a game -- were they trolling? Or did they just have a bad game that now everyone is yelling at them for?), and generally makes the boards more of a place to vent and complain. That's not a good use of this space. And the game not being fixed is being non-productive too. That's the player behavior part. We're talking about those who have can go full Thanos snap on this game and affect it, while all of us together and be like "Mr.Stark...i don't feel so good!".
> [{quoted}](name=DalekZec,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=000100010001000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:38:00.963+0000)We're talking about those who have can go full Thanos snap on this game and affect it, while all of us together and be like "Mr.Stark...i don't feel so good!". Sure. So use arguments, logic, and evidence to make a case for the sort of change you want to see. That's totally fine. Calling for someone you dislike to be fired is not. It's that simple.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:19:11.825+0000) > > No. > > I actually *wrote* the last iteration of the rules, and made several additions and removals precisely because I thought some things were stupid or poorly defined. I question them a lot, and the rules we have are those that have survived my questioning. So why is name and shame not allowed then? Honestly I would prefer it if I could come to the boards and say “x player is an obvious troll look out for them” instead of doing nothing other then reporting.
> [{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=0001000100010001,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:27:29.623+0000) > > So why is name and shame not allowed then? Honestly I would prefer it if I could come to the boards and say “x player is an obvious troll look out for them” instead of doing nothing other then reporting. Mostly because this sort of stuff is non-productive, can be heavily skewed by personal interpretation (someone made choices you felt were bad and threw a game -- were they trolling? Or did they just have a bad game that now everyone is yelling at them for?), and generally makes the boards more of a place to vent and complain. That's not a good use of this space.
DalekZec (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:19:11.825+0000) > > No. > > I actually *wrote* the last iteration of the rules, and made several additions and removals precisely because I thought some things were stupid or poorly defined. I question them a lot, and the rules we have are those that have survived my questioning. So why didn't you remove the rule that basically says "you can't have an opinion that a rioter deserves to be fired even if he's ruining the game or somehow caused world war 3"? The fact it's considered a harassment just shows that you don't even know what a harassment is.
> [{quoted}](name=DalekZec,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=0001000100010000,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:25:38.088+0000)So why didn't you remove the rule that basically says "you can't have an opinion that a rioter deserves to be fired even if he's ruining the game or somehow caused world war 3"? Because it's a non-productive way of voicing your concerns about the current state of the game that has multiple downsides: * It creates an unwelcoming environment for Rioters. * It creates a board steeped more in complaint than in constructive conversation. * It shows a terrible understanding of the realities of gameplay design, as no single person is responsible for a kit's final iteration or for green-lighting it and so blaming a single individual for that is pretty inaccurate. * It's just rude, and, as such, is a violation of the *Golden Rule* in and of itself.
DalekZec (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:10:58.434+0000) > > Sure! You have a legal right to say a lot of things. > > You don't have a right to avoid the consequences for saying them in privately operated places that have rules against those statements. In this case sure -- you *can* post that stuff, and you won't face legal challenges from the government for doing so. That's your right to speech free from government intervention. Your content will end up being removed though, and your account may face punishment depending on the severity and your past offenses. That's because we have board rules against that. > > In short, the ***Universal Rules*** prohibit suggesting Riot employees be fired. If you ignore those rules on the boards, you will face the consequences for doing so. It's pretty clear-cut. Go away. You grind the rules too much and never question if they are too stupid or not. You're a sheep. Like that shit will ever stop me anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=DalekZec,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:15:14.411+0000)Go away. No. > You grind the rules too much and never question if they are too stupid or not. You're a sheep. I actually *wrote* the last iteration of the rules, and made several additions and removals precisely because I thought some things were stupid or poorly defined. I question them a lot, and the rules we have are those that have survived my questioning.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:10:58.434+0000) > > Sure! You have a legal right to say a lot of things. > > You don't have a right to avoid the consequences for saying them in privately operated places that have rules against those statements. In this case sure -- you *can* post that stuff, and you won't face legal challenges from the government for doing so. That's your right to speech free from government intervention. Your content will end up being removed though, and your account may face punishment depending on the severity and your past offenses. That's because we have board rules against that. > > In short, the ***Universal Rules*** prohibit suggesting Riot employees be fired. If you ignore those rules on the boards, you will face the consequences for doing so. It's pretty clear-cut. Out of curiosity when was this rule employed? Under Universal Rules I know we have the "Name & Shame" rule but that was never really enforced on public figures like Streamers and such. Was a modification made at some point?
> [{quoted}](name=TwitchInMyPants,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mjbkKTVT,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-16T21:14:32.837+0000)Out of curiosity when was this rule employed? Under Universal Rules I know we have the "Name & Shame" rule but that was never really enforced on public figures like Streamers and such. Was a modification made at some point? That rule has always been quietly indicated by the "be respectful of others" rule, but we made it a separate rule for clarity when we pushed out the last update to the **Universal Rules**.
DalekZec (EUNE)
: We have the right to say "fire X Rioter"
>We have the right to say "fire X Rioter" Sure! You have a legal right to say a lot of things. You don't have a right to avoid the consequences for saying them in privately operated places that have rules against those statements. In this case sure -- you *can* post that stuff, and you won't face legal challenges from the government for doing so. That's your right to speech free from government intervention. Your content will end up being removed though, and your account may face punishment depending on the severity and your past offenses. That's because we have board rules against that. In short, the ***Universal Rules*** prohibit suggesting Riot employees be fired. If you ignore those rules on the boards, you will face the consequences for doing so. It's pretty clear-cut.
: Lmfao this game, its employees and boards have become such a joke, i dont even... Recheck your thinking k? Bye. P.s. i havent made any spoilers, but your reaction is just childish at best, what to expect when thats the target audience of the game these days. Been here from season one so yes i know.
> [{quoted}](name=Friction Addict ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GcThn9Hn,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2019-05-16T13:13:11.592+0000)Lmfao this game, its employees and boards have become such a joke, i dont even... Recheck your thinking k? Bye. I'm sorry that you disapprove of allowing people to fully enjoy things they want to enjoy. It's not like we banned all discussions -- only those that aren't clearly marked as spoilers. If that's too restrictive for you I'm not really sure what to say. *shrug*
: we won't ever get cute skins for "serious" champs?
While I understand ***cute*** is subjective, here are some cute and/or silly skins from serious champions: * Meowrick * Pretty Kitty Rengar * Birdio * Beekeeper Singed * Moo Cow Alistar * Renektoy * Baker Pantheon * Barbecue Leona * Butcher Olaf * Definitely Not Vel'Koz * Meowkai * Archduke Nasus The list goes on (and the Pool Party skins can qualify). These skins are *less* common, yes, but champions that aren't normally cute/funny do, naturally, get fewer cute/funny skins, as that's not really their main fantasy.
: Small Diana Gameplay changes coming to PBE
Hey there, Zhanos! I understand the changes here are intentionally low in scope and designed around extending Diana's kill pattern into more of a bruiser-like paradigm, but I'm not convinced there's enough offered to her to increase her sustained damage, CC, mobility, or durability to compensate for these changes. The stickiness with the passive MS and E buff is pretty awesome, as is the increased attack speed from her base stats, but I'm not sure these are actually going to *feel* good enough, especially since she doesn't get any extra durability. Admittedly, this is entirely without testing it myself, but it would be nice to see at least some sort of durability increase to help her survive longer with her new longer kill window.
Crunktd (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0lQho4fs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-14T16:51:19.405+0000) > > They did not unban any of his accounts -- they simply said they'd stop banning his accounts on sight. In short, he had a special type of ban called a *personal ID ban*, and *those* can be lifted, although *none of the banned accounts are returned*. > > In 99.99% of cases, permanently banned accounts are not unbanned. Your best bet if you still want to try would be to contact **Player Support** by sending in a ticket. https://www.riftherald.com/culture/2018/1/4/16850598/tyler1-unbanned-lol-reformed There are dozens of legacy skins on that account. I worked very hard and was very blindsided by a permanent ban.. Why not a 14 day ban? Why a permanent ban? I didn't do anything that deserved a permanent ban. Riot has the functionality to be able to recover these accounts. Please Riot. I jsut want to play your game. No making a new account would not work. I don't have the money or time to collect everything that account had. Not to mention the new way of collecting dust or whatever is 10x slower than it was years ago. Please unban my account riot.
> [{quoted}](name=Crunktd,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=0lQho4fs,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-14T17:01:02.642+0000)https://www.riftherald.com/culture/2018/1/4/16850598/tyler1-unbanned-lol-reformed Yes, but you're confusing the two sorts of bans: >Riot refers to bans on this level as ID Bans, they are the most severe bans that Riot serves to players and constitute bans on all known accounts. These bans are only reversed if Riot determines that they have convincing and overwhelming evidence of a player’s reformed behavior. He did *not* get his banned accounts returned to him. He *did* get the on-sight ban policy lifted, which allows him to make *new* accounts. >Why a permanent ban? I didn't do anything that deserved a permanent ban Then contact **Player Support**. They will be able to review your case and judge accordingly.
Crunktd (NA)
: Riot games, I Have been banned for 1 year, pelase unban my account
>You unbanned Tyler1, who is still extremely toxic. They did not unban any of his accounts -- they simply said they'd stop banning his accounts on sight. In short, he had a special type of ban called a *personal ID ban*, and *those* can be lifted, although *none of the banned accounts are returned*. In 99.99% of cases, permanently banned accounts are not unbanned. Your best bet if you still want to try would be to contact **Player Support** by sending in a ticket.
Meddler (NA)
: Prototype Wukong Changes on PBE Context
>How much Wukong have you previously played? A solid amount, although less in recent seasons. >Do you feel these changes result in you playing in somewhat different ways? Given that I preferred Bruiser Wukong to Assassin Wukong, not really -- the Q changes make lethality less valuable and give me more sustain, which helps my playstyle. >Is it clear what’s happening in game and how you should play against this version of the kit? Yes. >How frustrating do you find trickery from this kit relative to trickery from other champions in LoL? Barely frustrating at all. E clones don't last long enough, and the W doesn't *appear* to move as written, so it's still probably too easy for me to tell which is which. -------------------------- Overall, I like the *direction* of these changes, but I'm actually a bit concerned that so much of Wukong's "press button for gameplay" remains. There's no incentive to, say, position super well for some ability during your stealth (and you get bonus range, which actually helps that not be required), no way to keep targets in range of your clone, and less trickery and finesse than I was hoping to see. I understand it's a low-scope rework, so I guess that's perhaps an unrealistic expectation on my part, but I'm a little saddened to see my combat pattern basically "hit E into W into Q to get passive stacks quickly." I get that there's more nuance *possible*, but that combo *feels* like it's the right one more often than using trickery feels right.
: My post was deleted because of Naming and Shaming ?? U are kiding me right ?
>What was here shaming and naming? The fact that you called out a specific player name in your post. If you have a problem with a specific player name, submit a ticket to [Player Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us) or report them in-game. If you have a problem with Riot's name filters, make a post here voicing your frustrations/concerns, but do *not* name specific players in that post.
: Where can I contact customer support ?
> [{quoted}](name=PsychedelicTrave,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=dG8KBVU5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-13T17:54:24.907+0000) > > Where can I contact customer support ? [Player Support can be contacted here.](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us)
Sarutobi (NA)
: Is there a reasoning why this only happen now? What about other series/movies? Seems weird to only stop spoilers for this series only! I do like this idea, but as i said before it seems weird that its only for this series!
> [{quoted}](name=Sarutobi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GcThn9Hn,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-05-13T10:57:37.059+0000) > > Is there a reasoning why this only happen now? What about other series/movies? Seems weird to only stop spoilers for this series only! > > I do like this idea, but as i said before it seems weird that its only for this series! We aso did this for *Endgame.* Our normal rules against malevolently spoiling media cover most normal uses, but given that both of these are decade-long cultural phenomena with enormous viewer bases *and* the culminations of their respective universes, we decided to go a little bit harder on those attempting to spoil the fun.
: > [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=kK1XEFpe,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-11T23:10:09.507+0000) > > Bro, I wasn't saying what I think is important. You know, I was going to quote the board rules, but it's not even worth the time. You're posting looking for arguments and I'm not taking the bait. The board rules are also opinions. Just because they say it doesnt make it so. Its completely subjective to say that this or that is non constructive.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkinPrime,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=kK1XEFpe,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-12T00:05:48.430+0000) > > The board rules are also opinions. Just because they say it doesnt make it so. Its completely subjective to say that this or that is non constructive. Regardless of your opinion on whether or not it is constructive, the fact is that calling for people to be fired is also not allowed, and that will not be changing. When we were more lenient with this sort of stuff in the past it lead to a marked increase in the boards being unpleasant and full of insulting call-out threads, and we're not doing that again.
: No one cares about GoT. This is a pointless post.
> [{quoted}](name=RoG Seraph,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GcThn9Hn,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-05-12T15:30:13.432+0000) > > No one cares about GoT. This is a pointless post. You're totally fine thinking that. This one was a community request after our *Avenger's* post, so we obliged the community. Not everyone will think it's important, and that's fine -- if you don't care about GoT, the presence or absence of spoilers shouldn't mean much to you.
: Not being able to criticize Riot on here
>The idea that you cant say anything that can be construed as disrespectful is absurd. Agreed. That's why this isn't the case: a number of things on the board *could* be taken as being disrespectful, and are still up. We do, however, stamp down on this that are *actually* disrespectful and non-constructive. "You suck" is both disrespectful and non-constructive. "I dislike your work because of X, Y, and Z, and I'd suggest you focus more on making sure your work does A, B, and C instead" is respectful and constructive. Heck, I'd even be okay with "Designer X's designs cause problems for the game. Here's why, and here's how to take steps to improve that."
: 14 Day Ban :(
I mean, you did rush Boots of Mobility and nothing else in a 23 minute game, which seems suspicious, as that costs less gold than you'd earn in 23 minutes if you completely ignored your gold income item and earned 0 hold from it. If you're confident this is a mistake, though, send a ticket to Player Support.
: If they manage to come across it sure, but i'm not sure how likely that is.
> [{quoted}](name=Colonel J,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GcThn9Hn,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-05-10T13:56:14.636+0000)If they manage to come across it sure, but i'm not sure how likely that is. Then we'll cross that bridge when/if we come to it.
: but...didn't we have tons of shiposts like that ? I thought now RANT section is made for this.
> [{quoted}](name=ScoundrelRuffian,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=PzzJiN2n,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-05-10T04:02:59.897+0000) > > but...didn't we have tons of shiposts like that ? > I thought now RANT section is made for this. RANT was made to allow the venting of frustration that many players disliked seeing on *Gameplay* and other places, but still requires that the rules be followed for the most part.
Flagg (EUW)
: Transition from Boards to Discord - Will the US boards be deleted too?
If there is a plan to do that here, *I* haven't heard of it, and neither have my relevant Riot contacts.
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