: Interesting - by super attack do you mean when you first agro the camp? Or do you mean at a certain time during the encounter? I could see us likely being able to do something with the first agro on the camp, only problem is that people usually tap the dragon, then back out to avoid the knockback. Giving them all the same attack animation - so this super attack, and only changing the actually debuffs/effects/particles would certainly help for memory, we'd have to investigate to see how much though.
> [{quoted}](name=Maple Nectar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vGpkzdql,comment-id=000f00010001,timestamp=2018-01-22T05:27:43.802+0000) > > Interesting - by super attack do you mean when you first agro the camp? Or do you mean at a certain time during the encounter? > > I could see us likely being able to do something with the first agro on the camp, only problem is that people usually tap the dragon, then back out to avoid the knockback. Giving them all the same attack animation - so this super attack, and only changing the actually debuffs/effects/particles would certainly help for memory, we'd have to investigate to see how much though. First Aggro doesn't seem super interesting, but a large AoE that triggers at, say, 66% and 33% might be interesting, or a breath weapon (same particles, different colors -- perhaps just a Cho'Gath like spread in White/Orange/Blue/Brown) might be interesting. Bonus points if it swings in an interesting pattern, such as selecting the closest target and swinging to pivot them while firing in a line past them. That way you get a fight that you have to occasionally dance in and out of, as well as some considerations of who is standing where and moving in which direction.
Weedbro (NA)
: i see it an infinite number of times, moderator moderator moderator moderator moderator filling the screen as my scroll bar gets smaller and smaller until i have to close the screen lest my browser crash
> [{quoted}](name=Weedbro,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9R1ZrsL2,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-01-22T12:43:16.187+0000) > > i see it an infinite number of times, moderator moderator moderator moderator moderator filling the screen as my scroll bar gets smaller and smaller until i have to close the screen lest my browser crash Working as intended.
: We're definitely not looking at this as an easy thing to do, but I also don't think it's impossible. I'm also seeing a lot of people latching onto the idea we'll only be focusing on melee champs. More mages is another thing I'd be really happy to see in the botlane (how do we get more Ziggs types down there?)
> [{quoted}](name=Maple Nectar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LTMxGH15,comment-id=0003000200100000,timestamp=2018-01-21T19:22:28.008+0000)(how do we get more Ziggs types down there?) Probably by finding a healthy way to give them a bit more sustain in exchange for a little less burst. The lane isn't super fun when a mage either wins outright or slowly loses over the course of the entire game. A mage out of mana is pretty useless, a carry can still farm and harass decently. Conversely, if you get the situations like you did where Ziggs is dominant, you have far too reliable poke driving other people out of the lane entirely. Tricky situation. :P
: The crazy thing is, LeBlanc is (probably) even older than him. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Interlocutioner,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zVdpde1w,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-01-19T20:29:45.932+0000) > > The crazy thing is, LeBlanc is (probably) even older than him. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Is this because LeBlanc is a magical hair pin that effectively "possesses" the new host? Because based on the unprecedented perspective shift in her release flavor piece I'm still confident this is the case. :P
: CaptainSmileys Got a Question About Bans, To Riots Staff
That's not a fun situation to be in, and I'm sorry I can't bring better news, but you are ultimately responsible for any behavior that occurs on your account (save in the case of legitimate hacks that are detected quickly). It's reasons like this (among others) that account sharing is actually a permaban-worthy offense on it's own. I'm afraid there isn't anything we can do, and a 100% chance that Riot will not overturn this ban. Your account could have been banned for being shared alone, and being shared with a toxic player who earned chat punishments makes it entirely unlikely you'd get ANY traction with attempting to overturn the ban. Sorry. :/
Za Warudo (OCE)
: I hate this game's ban system
You said more than one toxic thing. > Za Warudo: ur bad shut up > Za Warudo: and my bots retarded > Za Warudo: oh ur silver 3 > Za Warudo: im auotmatically better than u > Za Warudo: ur silver 3 remeber > Za Warudo: so im auto better than u > Za Warudo: and that makes u worse than "bad"" > Za Warudo: u guys are toxic fro trash talking > Za Warudo: and retarded bot at same time > Za Warudo: i hope u get butthurt > Za Warudo: the same way > Za Warudo: learn to get out of silevr > Za Warudo: then come shit talk > Za Warudo: i am better tahn u > Za Warudo: ur silver > Za Warudo: silvers Rank shaming, calling people toxic, calling people retarded, and calling people bad is all pretty unsportsmanlike and insulting behavior. Riot has a policy against that sort of thing. I also can't give much weight to the "they started it" argument for two reasons -- firstly, you're still responsible for your own behavior. Secondly, rather than attempt to deescalate the situation, respond gracefully, or simply ignore them, you opened immediately with this: >Za Warudo: ur bad shut up Za Warudo: silver That sort of defeats any argument that you were trying to remain composed.
: pls undelete my post
> [{quoted}](name=Psilocybinium,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=vEjfouOO,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-01-19T16:21:53.652+0000)1. this message says i posted it in the wrong section but i know i was correct, i was talking about a vissual, art issue > 2. i know the post its not seious at all, but a simple comment in it could've changed that...instead of delete it While point 1 is true (this is art related), the post itself is pretty clearly not serious, and that is the issue. If you want to have a discussion about the male body types present in *League* or why Riot is avoiding certain types of physical representation, feel free! If you want to mainly post pictures of butts and demand more shapely behinds, that seems a bit more ***Memes & Games*** or ***General Discussion***. To me personally this one is kind of right on that edge. The meme-like focus on the pictures and gifs with minimal text content and no meaningful discussion is what tips it, I think, even if only *just*, as does the fact that, by your own admission, the thread wasn't serious at all. > 3. ive seen a lot of less serious post in literally every section We try to keep things shipshape as much as we can, and the occasional stray post here and there happens. Feel free to report them if they bother you and we'll take a look.
: Jikker, can we talk?
> [{quoted}](name=HungryAngry2SPP,realm=EUNE,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=3ExVJbE1,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-01-18T21:01:01.594+0000)It was more a joke, a meme. Personally i found no reason to delete it. > Nuff said. While I understand that you may have intended it as a joke, our board policy is that if something is not a permissible topic then it is not a permissible topic whether as a joke or as an actual discussion. Additionally, even at its most innocent the "punchline" is sexual attraction towards a minor, which is not something we will allow to stay on the boards.
: Who wrote the article? Just being critical here, because I have not seen any evidence of this. I am telling you, from a consumer perspective, and every person I know who plays League, telling me they love those modes. How am I and everyone I know so disconnected from reality that we would just happen to really like the modes they aren't allowing back, meanwhile I am being told no one likes it and stops playing?
> [{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=MEPxMRzb,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-16T03:29:15.607+0000) > > Who wrote the article? Ghostcrawler and Riot Cactopus: two guys with more data on this than you and I will ever have. [Here's the article.](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/12/ask-riot-urf/) They wouldn't keep a super popular game mode out of rotation unless this were actually true -- it's not good for business to keep a popular thing on ice forever and ANNOUNCE that they're keeping it on ice, so I think we can trust that this is true. > Just being critical here, because I have not seen any evidence of this. > > I am telling you, from a consumer perspective, and every person I know who plays League, telling me they love those modes. A: that's anecdotal evidence (although I appreciate that it may be true for the people you know), and B: despite it possibly being something people love, if the end effect is that it's not good for the long-term health of the game than it's a bad business decision. > How am I and everyone I know so disconnected from reality that we would just happen to really like the modes they aren't allowing back, meanwhile I am being told no one likes it and stops playing? They're not saying no one likes it -- they're saying that, despite people liking it, having it around causes people to stop playing. Until they figure out why and can address it, it's a bad idea to feature it, since it causes a permanent reduction in the player base.
: If you know some of the design team, you should really let them know we only want URF, and Hexakill as alternate modes, none of the other even compare as far as being fun. The reason people stop playing league is because those modes are still gone, just sayin. Also, they should make a story mode with campaigns like the old Warcraft, it being an updated look would be so fun and cool, plus playing with buddies on a stress free mode would encourage more people to play the game. If they like money, they'd take this advice, also, just sayin. Have a good one man.
> [{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=MEPxMRzb,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-16T03:17:49.991+0000)...you should really let them know we only want URF, and Hexakill as alternate modes, none of the other even compare as far as being fun. The reason people stop playing league is because those modes are still gone, just sayin. There's actually an interesting article they published recently saying that URF actually makes people STOP playing *League*, even when it's running. There's a lot of evidence to back it up, which is one of the reasons we haven't seen it around again. > Also, they should make a story mode with campaigns like the old Warcraft, it being an updated look would be so fun and cool, plus playing with buddies on a stress free mode would encourage more people to play the game. That's actually a really huge undertaking. I imagine (but have no confirmation one way or another) that's something they'd naturally think about (it's low-hanging fruit, for a company making a MOBA), but the fact that they haven't yet leads me to believe they have a good reason for not developing such a thing.
: How are you so sure?
> [{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=MEPxMRzb,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-01-16T03:01:32.764+0000)How are you so sure? Knowing at least one member of the design team and several Rioters overall helps. They don't go looking here for ideas and a relatively low-hanging idea like this is something that would almost certainly come out of a brainstorming session. Something hyper specific, like, say, a "Taric eating an ice-cream cone" icon? Then we have to wonder. But when someone produces a super common expression ("Come at me," in this case) with a character not the one the OP suggested personally, only a month after his post? It's a HUGE stretch to say they took his idea.
: 2011/2012 or something first account ever made. I never had punishments on this account as far as i can remember before. -edit- but i didn't play often anymore at all. 40 games spread across a whole year. The year before probably like 10 or less. So i honestly don't understand the instant 14 days ban followed by permanent ban... I understand i might get chat restricted but an actual 14days/perma is way over.
> [{quoted}](name=Lethal Viper,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sesql080,comment-id=000400000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-15T18:23:38.317+0000)So i honestly don't understand the instant 14 days ban followed by permanent ban... I understand i might get chat restricted but an actual 14days/perma is way over. If you send in a ticket for your chat logs I'd be happy to help you figure out why this may have happened. Without them I can't do much other than say that *usually* there's something the banned party is overlooking, but exceptions to that rule exist.
: I do not. I know i ramped & got mad at him. But nowhere near enough to get a 14 day ban. I've played league in total for 6 years. Didn't get banned nor muted on multiple accounts. This one skipped straight to 14 days ban for something that should be chat restricted . I've quit the game in general before i got banned. Only figured out now i'm banned , don't even know when this ban happend. Must be month(s) or something not sure... But i do remember the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Lethal Viper,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sesql080,comment-id=0004000000010000,timestamp=2018-01-15T16:40:55.312+0000) > > I do not. I know i ramped & got mad at him. But nowhere near enough to get a 14 day ban. I've played league in total for 6 years. Didn't get banned nor muted on multiple accounts. This one skipped straight to 14 days ban for something that should be chat restricted . I've quit the game in general before i got banned. Only figured out now i'm banned , don't even know when this ban happend. Must be month(s) or something not sure... But i do remember the game. Is this account a relatively new one? I believe (this is an entirely unofficial comment based on something I remember reading once, and I don't have confirmation either way) punishments are a little more severe on newer accounts to help keep toxic smurfs from overrunning *League*. That could account for the escalation.
: Often they skip all those steps and straight up ban you. I've skipped chat restrictions. Went to 14 days. Wich i can understand because i fucked up that time. This was just a bad day. But i remember riot saying a bad day can happen. But don't do it often. Okay they replied after a 14 day ban you can get banned for ANY toxicity. INCLUDING asking why you didn't get a buff. --edit-- also i only played 40 games on here.
> [{quoted}](name=Lethal Viper,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sesql080,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-01-15T16:01:10.224+0000) > > Often they skip all those steps and straight up ban you. I've skipped chat restrictions. Went to 14 days. Wich i can understand because i fucked up that time. This was just a bad day. But i remember riot saying a bad day can happen. But don't do it often. Okay they replied after a 14 day ban you can get banned for ANY toxicity. INCLUDING asking why you didn't get a buff. > > --edit-- also i only played 40 games on here. Do you have your chat logs from that punishment, by any chance? I've read your comments later in this thread, and would be surprised if what you say happened earned an immediate 14-day ban. Also, asking why you didn't get a buff isn't toxicity -- depending on how you ask. "Hey Lee Sin -- can I ask why you took blue? I can really use it better" is fine. "Lee Sin, give me the fucking blue buff next time. Do you want us to lose?" is less fine. "Lee, you idiot, give me blue next time" is *not* fine at all. But yeah, if you have a previous 14-day ban you're on very thin ice. The "occasional bad day" protection doesn't extend to the sort of behavior that earns a 14-day ban, and pretty much doesn't exist past that point.
: The excuses they come up with to ban someone.
A common misunderstanding is that only the most toxic *behavior* gets banned. This is not entirely true. The most toxic *players* end up banned, but this toxicity can take the form of extreme toxicity (which usually gets banned quickly as escalated to higher punishments sooner) or persistent low-grade toxicity. Someone who makes 1000 game experiences bad is a problem, as is someone who spouts racist slurs in 2 games. For something like this to get you punished, I imagine you've had to work your way up through a 10-game chat restriction, 25-game chat restriction, and a 14-day ban, all without showing the necessary adjustment in behavior. That's not a "lame reason:" it's a pattern of insufficient change and negative impact on the game experience of others. >Asking your jungler why he didn't gank you. (Complaining) Asking your team why they didn't give you the buff. (Complaining) Pinging a "?" when someone makes a misplay or does something stupid. (Complaining , criticizing) Spamm pinging on a team mate for whatever reason. (Mocking , making fun of , criticizing w/e.) Pinging the death timer of an ally. (Criticizing / mocking) Typing "bye" , "cya" or "rekt" in chat when killing someone. (Making fun of) None of these will get you punished unless they become common issues. The system has some built-in leeway for things like this every now and then, and many of them are even then highly dependent on the circumstances and frequency (and the wording, where appropriate) of the action.
malek vr (EUW)
: Give me your opinion about my drawings.
If you don't link your drawings we can't see them! :P
needHymn (NA)
: When Riot uses an idea from your thread, and it hits #1 on store, but no comment the thread... :(
I'm about 99.999999% sure this is coincidence. It's not an uncommon suggestion for a thing to say to an opponent, and the team working on this *certainly* sits around coming up with a list of things a player might like to say and then figuring out how best to implement the best ones. Dev also often takes more than a month, even for features that seem tiny. Champion design, for example, is often 6+ months out. So chances are that emote (or the initial drafts of it) were already in the pipeline by the time your thread emerged. That said, it's always cool to know that you and Riot were thinking along the same lines! I personally always love it when an idea I had appears in *League* in a similar form.
: Champion Idea I thought might be interesting
As written, the passive is way too powerful. Displacement in *League* locks out other commands, so this is effectively a permanent stun you can move people with. It NEEDS a per-target cooldown, but that also means you can't move people around with it more than once.
: And if any rioter has an issue, PLEASE comment below instead of deleting the post and sending an alert. People NEED to see how rioters react so other players can LEARN. Doing things behind closed doors does NOT help anyone in anyway (this does not go for posts that are clearly inappropriate [i.e. posts that REALLY shouldn't be on]) Also it can help show people what ACTUALLY is and isn't allowed on the boards before it was deleted
> [{quoted}](name=Pull0utGameWeak,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=QE6EtBHj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-10T09:06:37.739+0000) > > And if any rioter has an issue, PLEASE comment below instead of deleting the post and sending an alert. People NEED to see how rioters react so other players can LEARN. Doing things behind closed doors does NOT help anyone in anyway (this does not go for posts that are clearly inappropriate [i.e. posts that REALLY shouldn't be on]) Commenting on specific problematic content doesn't actually help as much as you think -- a lot of players either don't see it or ignore it, and it means that content is left around for others to encounter. It also means we're effectively making a negative example out of a community member, which we prefer to avoid whenever possible. You'll see moderator comments occasionally on threads where we give people advance warnings that the tone/direction is in danger of slipping into unacceptable boundaries, but in general moderation is kept private and I do not believe that, at this time, we have any desire to change that. Hence this board, where we're happy to answer questions and address concerns. :)
: Attention Rioters
The initial post specifically mentioned that the hack included nudity, which is inappropriate board content. A post that doesn't encourage looking it up but serves only to draw attention to a site known to contain nudity is likewise inappropriate. In this case it is a specific instance where advanced knowledge (i.e. this poster knows that site contains mature content at the moment) takes a post that might otherwise be acceptable and pushes it into the realm of moderator discretion. In short, we know your friend knew it was inappropriate, so we couldn't assume good faith on the second post. I'd also like to clarify that we're volunteer community moderators, not Rioters. It's an important distinction to make. :)
: Getting Perma-Banned
Without actually having your chat logs here, it's impossible to weigh in on the situation. :)
: may i?
Yep! Feel free! :)
: "Recent" Yasuo topic from 3 years ago?
Without seeing the specific thread I can't comment specifically, but there's a chance that someone commented on it and then either deleted their comment or had it deleted by a moderator for a violation. I'll admit I'm not 100% on how precisely the code that determines a recent post works, but I'd hazard a guess that it doesn't retroactively reposition the thread if a deletion happens.
Jamerz (NA)
: Creating Legends
Riot does not accept (or seek out) champion designs from the public. If you're just seeking feedback, the best way is to post here and hope that someone pops by -- this happens VERY rarely, so don't count on it. If you're seeking input for another reason, the only real path is to submit an application to Riot Games and hope it gets enough attention that someone reads your sample designs.
: Suspended for abuse or whatever
I've avoided using your poll for one simple reason: ***While it is okay to report teammates who break behavioral rules for ANY reason, it is NOT okay to intentionally aggravate or tilt them.*** So it's not okay to tilt teammates, but it IS okay to report anyone who is violating the rules, regardless of the reasons. We'd need an option of "it's not okay to tilt players intentionally, but it is always okay to report rules violations." Also, everyone else on your team could also have reported you. The behavior of other players does not justify your own behavior being problematic.
Pinkaj (NA)
: What's your reason for being on the boards?
I was a little short of wood planks for a shed I was building, and heard I could find good boards here. Clearly a bit of confusion there, but I like to think it's worked out in the end.
: I'm not a 9 year old who mutes my team b.c they say something mean, the way you win games is through communication. The mute button should be a last option, not the go-to reaction.
> [{quoted}](name=dalethewhale,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wUgVBn43,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2018-01-03T19:58:07.032+0000)The way you win games is through communication. The mute button should be a last option, not the go-to reaction. Sure. Let's take a look on your game-winning communication. >dalethewhale: with this %%%got nerd hounding my jungle >dalethewhale: with these %%%got nerds >dalethewhale: angry gamer are you fuckin retarded? This is not game-winning communication. In fact, looking at your logs, the only even slightly game-related thing that wasn't saying you couldn't play or you should let the minions win was this: >b.c i came into the lane so i may as well get some gold
Jbels (NA)
: I love the Riot style of justice. If somebody shoots you and you shoot him back in self defense, the other guy gets off scott free and you're charged with shooting somebody because you were the most recent person to do it. It just works!
> [{quoted}](name=Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wUgVBn43,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-03T15:44:04.405+0000) > > I love the Riot style of justice. If somebody shoots you and you shoot him back in self defense, the other guy gets off scott free and you're charged with shooting somebody because you were the most recent person to do it. It just works! That parallel doesn't work. Firstly, insults and flaming don't stop someone from insulting or flaming you, so it's not like you're actually defending yourself effectively against an attack. Secondly, there's a mute button, which safely disarms and neutralizes the attacker's verbal toxicity 100% of the time. If the real world gave you a choice between shooting back or shutting down the threat instantly and peacefully with 100% certainty, you can bet choosing to shoot them instead would get you in trouble.
: Morganna
> [{quoted}](name=sexytemptress23,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=xKAvoby9,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-01-03T04:54:10.097+0000)ok back in 2008 morganna was a mage ok she was spellvamp because that helped her utility her utility leeched life for the duration to cast now she must build support and I hate you for ruining her... Mid mage Morgana currently has an extremely solid win rate, and her healing, while not as mindless, is still super strong. It's just limited to large minions, monsters, and champions, but it's stronger against those that it was before. Post-change her mid and mage build win rates spiked pretty hard, as did her *jungle*, of all things. Frankly, right now she's almost more of a mage than she's ever been -- instead of just mindless AFK farming and healing you have an active mage-like playstyle that combines powerful waveclear with reliable, repeatable burst + healing when you hit large minions or champions with your W.
Barkley (NA)
: How hard would it be to make an external analysis tool?
>Especially since replays are in a proprietary format. (Why not mp4?) Because videos are big -- a 1080p 30 minute game could be over 2.5GB at 60fps. The replays, to my knowledge, are kept small by being basically just data that the client reinterprets as a game, so it's basically replaying the game in real time.
: Warning to everyone!
As the initial concern has been addressed by Chermorg, and as this thread is beginning to descend into stone-walling discussions and arguments, I'm going to be locking this now.
: https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAVUAAAAJGI1ZGE1MDE0LTJjODctNDU0YS1hNDQyLWM1YjI3MTNiZTk0Nw.png
> [{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uABNQxQR,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-02T22:33:23.520+0000) > > https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAVUAAAAJGI1ZGE1MDE0LTJjODctNDU0YS1hNDQyLWM1YjI3MTNiZTk0Nw.png Well played, but my love for Sherlock Holmes makes me obligated to voice my frustration with that famous line, which was never actually said by him. It's the *Luke, I am your father* of turn-of-the-20th-century detective stories!
: it's entirely possible that you got lucky and went down a punishment tier in those 4 months before getting the second 2 week ban moral of the story: don't push your luck!
> [{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uABNQxQR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-02T22:01:11.559+0000) > > it's entirely possible that you got lucky and went down a punishment tier in those 4 months before getting the second 2 week ban > > moral of the story: don't push your luck! ^^Came here to say this. Didn't have to. Good day. :)
: You heard it here folks, if people suck at their job, you can't call for them to be fired
Nah, you can, provided it's as respectful as that can be. "Djinn's a dick and ruined Christmas, fire his volunteer ass" isn't okay. "Djinn did XYZ, which I find a poorly made decision for reasons ABC, whoch i will now explain. I'd therefore like him to be removed from the team" is fine. Basically, just don't make antagonistic call-out threads. Have good discussions of your concerns instead! Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a secret board police meeting to attend. We're getting our new K-9 unit today, and I want to pet it.
: Double Standard
Trolling, griefing, and intentional feeding are not allowed. In fact, they are aggressively bad whenever they are identified. The problem is that those behaviors are a lot harder to detect then toxic in-game communication, and it often takes longer to confirm that behavior. This is especially true with intentional feeding or in game trolling such as following someone around and taking all their minions, because killing minions is something that happens in a game, and being bad and dying a lot is allowed as long as you aren't doing it intentionally. As a result, you tend to see less punishments go out for this, because while your reports add to the pile of evidence, but it also takes longer for the system to be confident a punishment is warranted.
GummiSnake (EUNE)
: RIOT PLEASE UNBAN ME
Riot does not unban accounts (or reverse/remove punishment escalations) that were not incorrectly applied. You will not, however, be banned for going 0/10. Playing poorly is allowed, as long as you are not intentionally feeding. The only thing you will be banned for is bad in-game behavior, whether it be *intentionally* feeding, trolling, or chat-based behavior. Also, "defending" yourself isn't a thing in League. A defense is muting them or ignoring them. What most people call "defending" is really just attacking back, which means there are now TWO people flaming or harassing instead of one.
Kasarana (NA)
: I personally think that CertainlyT is not fleshed out for the League's Design Philosophy.
...this is an example of the sort of critique we need more of here. Constructive, detailed, and as respectful as possible given the feedback being provided. I'm going to offer a counterargument to this point though: >I'm sure that CertainlyT is definitely qualified for a position at Riot, but I'm not sure if given his past record, he does not belong in champion design. As someone who does game design, I'd argue that Champion Design is the *exact* place you want him. He creates innovative, exciting mechanics, and pushes the design of the game. While it can create frustrating things, champions can be easily reworked, buffed, or nerfed to the point where their playrate isn't super high or their win rate is low enough to offset their frustrating aspects. In short, it allows you to experiment and inject cool new things into the game, with a fairly easy to manage safety net. Compare to Runes, Items, Maps, or core gameplay adjustments, where crazy balance skews *everything* in a way that can't be easily adjusted. If you introduce a crazy experimental item that's a ton of fun but really frustrating, you don't have the fallback of bans -- it's just there, and everyone can get it/use it 100% of the time. CertainlyT creates some frustrating stuff, definitely. But he also creates some amazing gameplay experiences, and I think *League* is stronger for the sort of innovation he seems like he encourages -- see the unique new mechanical explorations in Kled, Illaoi, Kayne, Xayah, Ornn, Ivern, Taliyah, A.Sol, Jhin, etc. I suspect a lot of that sort of thing came from people like CertainlyT pushing against those boundaries until it became Riot's practice to be willing to push further and further, and I believe it's to the game's benefit. Certainly (T...) there might be a need to do a little more vigorous testing on certain mechanics prior to release to judge the frustration they can create, but I think he's proven to be a very valuable member to the team. The fact that most of his designs are awesome, memorable champions -- who, admittedly sometimes have a few big frustration points -- seems like a reason to just vet them a little more thoroughly for said frustration points, since the gameplay fun and champion memorability of his kits is usually high.
: Why was my account banned?
If you want to communicate with a friend using zero tolerance language like hate speech or encouraging self-harm, use the /whisper command to send it to just that friend. The moment you bring it into a public chat it becomes unacceptable behavior.
: Any like heplful tips on doing that especially after my ban (which i think will make the lvl.ing up way harder If not thnx for your time.
> [{quoted}](name=MajeesticWolf,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hgZeyFdn,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-01-02T03:31:37.631+0000) > > Any like heplful tips on doing that especially after my ban (which i think will make the lvl.ing up way harder > If not thnx for your time. No insults, no "ez"s, no passive aggressiveness, no commenting on low scores. If you want to gain honor, try doing the opposite -- be encouraging, be friendly, be positive, be helpful. You'll find that you get more honor, and ALSO that you find less toxic games -- if you're encouraging and actively work towards building team unity, it honestly often works.
: Ok so yeah i guess unless i'm the nicest guy in the match (even if they say all the shit they want to me) i will be banned. Just is there any chance that when this ban is over can i still lvl. up my honor?(i'm currently dishonorable) If i can i will literally not say a fking word in any games that i play i will constantly do /mute all
> [{quoted}](name=MajeesticWolf,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hgZeyFdn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-02T03:26:13.486+0000)Just is there any chance that when this ban is over can i still lvl. up my honor?(i'm currently dishonorable) When your ban is over you can begin to work on leveling up your honor, yes. It may take a little while, but you can definitely do that.
: Confused as to why I am chat restricted?
Chat logs would be extremely helpful here. Without them we can only guess.
: "poor sportsmanship" hmm didn't know that was bannable thnx.
> [{quoted}](name=MajeesticWolf,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hgZeyFdn,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-01-02T03:14:44.295+0000) > > "poor sportsmanship" hmm didn't know that was bannable thnx. It's more the constant insults that caused this punishment, but yes -- taunting and excessive poor sportsmanship can get you punished.
: Is this really worth 14 days ban?No sarcasm
> MajeesticWolf: ez > MajeesticWolf: he was in your bush you moron it was even warded lmao pay attention > MajeesticWolf: ez > MajeesticWolf: you guys had to 3v2 all game lmao bunch of losers > MajeesticWolf: ez > MajeesticWolf: ez > MajeesticWolf: gg ez > MajeesticWolf: god damn you ammumu GOD DAMN YOU BURN IN HELL! > MajeesticWolf: fking moron > MajeesticWolf: pussies > MajeesticWolf: hopeless > MajeesticWolf: fking morons > MajeesticWolf: suck it lux > MajeesticWolf: nice supp lmap > MajeesticWolf: lmao* > MajeesticWolf: fking troll > MajeesticWolf: he's a moron > MajeesticWolf: gg easy The constant "ez" is a classic example of poor sportsmanship, and there's good number of insults thrown in there as well. This is definitely a deserved punishment, and would escalate to a 14-day ban if you have a previous punishment history.
: Yes, I realize the canned response here is "theres never any circumstance in which flaming is acceptable. It will not improve the situation, so if you cant say anything nice dont say anything!" True, yeah, agreed. Except we're all humans, this is an online game, and if you honestly think that, you arent really in touch with reality. Can you tell me with 100% honesty that you are perfectly okay with having people intentionally ruin a game for 8-9 other people, and you have never said anything negative to one of those people? Honestly? Riot, you gotta take humanity into consideration.
> [{quoted}](name=Cv Anthem,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7mKNy0Ms,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-01-01T17:29:36.827+0000)True, yeah, agreed. Except we're all humans, this is an online game, and if you honestly think that, you arent really in touch with reality. Can you tell me with 100% honesty that you are perfectly okay with having people intentionally ruin a game for 8-9 other people, and you have never said anything negative to one of those people? Honestly? I can 100% say I have never flamed them or insulted them, although I may have said 1-2 slightly negative things, which the system normally allows if it happens occasionally. There's a difference between "Knock off the feeding please, Nunu. You're ruining the damn game" once every dozen games or so, and insulting/flaming/harassing/asking for reports for the entire rest of the game.
: Ok so maybe I am not understanding. It keeps switching from like a reddit style thread of comments with quotes encased and replies apart of the original comment, and then sometimes it is like a forum style and just every reply and quote get appended as a new comment in a series? Is this the page not loading correctly?
> [{quoted}](name=Oxyrotten,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=RRzT9xWu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-01T10:25:45.695+0000) > > Ok so maybe I am not understanding. It keeps switching from like a reddit style thread of comments with quotes encased and replies apart of the original comment, and then sometimes it is like a forum style and just every reply and quote get appended as a new comment in a series? Is this the page not loading correctly? There are two types of view -- Discussion View (with nested comments) and Chronological View (without nested comments). **General Discussion** is Chronological only, and all other boards allow you to select your choice. At the bottom of the main post there is text that says "Switch to Discussion View" or "Switch to Chronological View." Pick your preference. :)
: > No, because 90% of other Marksmen do the same from those two. Really? O_O On On MF, Trist and cait i usually kite as normal, since my autos still do good damage. > Jhin/Caitlyn, who can lose their super powerful shot easily to blinds and invulnerabilities, and with it lose a lot of their damage. Cait doesn't rely on it so much, her autos still do pretty good damage and traps let you react to stuff like Zhonya and GA perfectly. > There are other hard counters like this. Try playing TF into Fizz, for example -- you can do basically nothing ever, and he one-shots you. Hell...you don&#x27;t even need to make him burn his ult. Ah true that matchup is pretty awful, but at least Fizz kinda stops being useful post 4-5 items as long as you have either banshee or Zhonya. > Carry counterplay against characters like assassins, Olaf, and Yi is to rely on your team to assist you. That&#x27;s working as intended. I don't really want to beat them 1v1, i just want my autos to do some damage in teamfights ;_; > You&#x27;re also underestimating her. She&#x27;s not GREAT right now, but she&#x27;s around the middle of the pack. She doesn&#x27;t bring the highest damage, but she brings hard AoE CC on her ultimate, consistent slows, S-tier kiting, and vision. The fact that two characters can avoid most of her damage for 6 seconds out of every minute or two doesn&#x27;t make her worthless, or mean there&#x27;s a problem with her design, in much the same way that fact that Zilean or Kayle can undo or negate anyone&#x27;s burst doesn&#x27;t mean there&#x27;s a problem with all burst mages. Slows aren't so strong in the current league, it's really easy to stack tenacity, although with everyone prefering damage a good ulti is still welcomed. Her kiting is pretty mediocre though, against everything that isn't Mordekaiser or Sion without ulti, Especially now that all melee with a bit of sanity stack tenacity. S-tier? Thats tristana, Vayne and maybe Xayah. > It&#x27;s a game of strengths and weaknesses. Yi and Olaf happen to be amazing vs. Ashe, much like Udyr and Darius so on struggle against her. That&#x27;s fine. Udyr doesn't really struggle at all since he can stack his speed buffs and slow resistance high enough for it to really feel irrelevant from a early point, Darius does struggle but whenever he get's TBC, merc threads and deadman he will run Ashe down too x) I´ve been having a really hard time with her <.<
> [{quoted}](name=Thefrostyviking,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=AITwp8pt,comment-id=000300000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-31T22:27:02.802+0000)Really? O_O Really. A good Yi can slaughter those in the same time he can slaughter Ashe, and about as easily. > I don&#x27;t really want to beat them 1v1, i just want my autos to do some damage in teamfights ;_; Then hit the more vulnerable targets. Just like you avoid a armored up Rammus, or an ulting Alistar, or a raging Tryndamere, or a nearly dead target in a Kindred ult, or Mundo if you can't burst him, or...the list goes on. When some targets are less vulnerable, hit those you can hit. > S-tier? Thats tristana, Vayne and maybe Xayah. Vayne, sure. Xayah not really. Tristana has it on two abilities. Crit Ashe has a repeatable, ranged, 60% slow. That's REALLY good for kiting. > I´ve been having a really hard time with her &lt;.&lt; Frankly, that seems like more of a you issue. Not to be blunt, but, while she's not one of the TOP ADCs right now, she's more than capable if you play to her strengths.
: Her? Damn this whole time I thought she was a guy
> [{quoted}](name=Príncess Diana,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Z7hWUyLX,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-12-31T21:53:58.978+0000) > > Her? Damn this whole time I thought she was a guy She/he might be. I don't know, so I picked Mildred. :D
: Wouldn't it make more sense to change the way the system works at higher ranks when that's actually a concern, rather than forcing the majority of the playerbase who's not anywhere near that rank to wind up playing against someone they blocked?
> [{quoted}](name=Karunamon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GvYoBfEl,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-12-31T21:26:53.133+0000) > > Wouldn&#x27;t it make more sense to change the way the system works at higher ranks when that&#x27;s actually a concern, rather than forcing the majority of the playerbase who&#x27;s not anywhere near that rank to wind up playing against someone they blocked? Not really. What happens when such a player improves? Suddenly the block list they loved and relied on just starts randomly failing them? What about players in the accepted MMR range who decide to play lower-player-number game modes like an unpopular rotating game more or Twisted Treeline? Is their block list suddenly invalid? What about the guy who just blocks everyone? Does he suddenly not get games? It's frankly an issue at all MMRs, just MOST obvious at higher MMRs.
Kei143 (NA)
: Psssstttt... he's saying "bot", not "support".
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=MjdcWc9I,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-12-31T21:05:58.098+0000) > > Psssstttt... he&#x27;s saying &quot;bot&quot;, not &quot;support&quot;. ...derp. I guess that IS the name of a role now. I tend to forget that. :D
: When someone is trolling their pick, its important to wait till the very last second to dodge
~~That moment when Blitzcrank has the [27th highest winrate in Diamond](http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/) and is the 6th or 7th highest ranked support, yet is still "troll." :P~~ That moment when Djinn totally forgets that "bot" is a specific role these days, rather than just a pick in bottom lane.
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