: TANKS NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS
Here's my suggestion for a Health-only first buy item for tanks that juggernauts/fighters wouldn't be able to abuse. As you can see from the votes it hasn't gone off well. But that might be because of the passive I gave it. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/Ec7Lwn2A-a-first-item-for-top-lane-tanks?show=flat&page=1
vrasidaros (EUNE)
: Too afraid to leave my turret
As Illaoi, you should hardly be afraid. You heal whenever a tentacle hits someone, even if it just hits the spirit. You're being way too passive if you're turret hugging as a juggernaut. Doesn't mean push up, but don't be afraid to fight.
TakaDama (NA)
: Not sure if the definition changed some time since the Juggernaut update years ago, but juggernauts then like Darius, Illaoi, Yorick, Udyr, Nasus, etc. had the following qualities: High damage potential High durability via tankiness and/or sustain Limited or situational crowd control **Limited mobility** That last one is bolded for a reason; while juggernauts can be raid bosses in teamfights, their lack of mobility in most circumstances means they can be kited and weakened substantially beforehand. This is especially true for Illaoi and Darius, who have no innate move speed steroid or disengage (Illaoi can somewhat engage with W). Mordekaiser is no different in this regard, and honestly the way his ult works now is actually a bit refreshing direction for juggernauts in general; as opposed to being an early game lane bully that punishes your top for having the jungle gank them (Darius, Illaoi, maybe Urgot) or a late game split pushing god (Nasus, Yorick), Mordekaiser seems to be very much a juggernaut that capitalizes on 1v1s.
> [{quoted}](name=TakaDama,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAkRGoto,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-20T18:28:23.485+0000) > > Not sure if the definition changed some time since the Juggernaut update years ago, but juggernauts then like Darius, Illaoi, Yorick, Udyr, Nasus, etc. had the following qualities: > > High damage potential > High durability via tankiness and/or sustain > Limited or situational crowd control > **Limited mobility** > > That last one is bolded for a reason; while juggernauts can be raid bosses in teamfights, their lack of mobility in most circumstances means they can be kited and weakened substantially beforehand. This is especially true for Illaoi and Darius, who have no innate move speed steroid or disengage (Illaoi can somewhat engage with W). > > Mordekaiser is no different in this regard, and honestly the way his ult works now is actually a bit refreshing direction for juggernauts in general; as opposed to being an early game lane bully that punishes your top for having the jungle gank them (Darius, Illaoi, maybe Urgot) or a late game split pushing god (Nasus, Yorick), Mordekaiser seems to be very much a juggernaut that capitalizes on 1v1s. It's kinda funny how limited mobility translates easily to: "Bring Phase rush, ghost, and Rylai's/Cleaver and it won't matter that you don't have a dash."
: Ok, lets accept that one, even though it makes no sense, but if that is how it functions why can i get hit by the outside fizz ult while in morde ult?
> [{quoted}](name=BogiTheSlayer,realm=EUNE,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=4hBmEX1L,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-20T19:02:26.653+0000) > > Ok, lets accept that one, even though it makes no sense, but if that is how it functions why can i get hit by the outside fizz ult while in morde ult? Ah, hold on. If the ult is _on_ you, it's on _you_. It's now a debuff that comes with you. Same way you don't cleanse ignite when you ult.
Rioter Comments
TakaDama (NA)
: Considering I dont play Fizz much if at all (only decided to try him out a little because of the changes to his damage mitigation) and the fact that tool tips exist to provide some clarity without having to use the practice tool to test it out, assuming this may be the case (as I mentioned the tooltip specifically given that the champion information on this site is still outdated with the basic attack version and the wiki literally says 'permanently ghosted') is not unreasonable; even if everything works as normal, someone new to playing as Fizz would not know he has that passive due to the lack of the tooltip unless they do research. Also, as far as true damage goes, yes; I'm well aware that true damage never gets reduced, even by undefined damage mitigation. Which, as I mentioned in the OP, is an issue as far as overall mechanics for League of Legends go, not just for Fizz or Leona due to their recent changes. Given the prevalance of true damage nowadays, this might be something to consider.
No, it's completely reasonable because you didn't see anywhere in the patch that it was removed, and it was not removed. We aren't talking about someone new. We're talking about level 123 Takadama, who should know better than to think it's more than a tooltip bug, and should know to test it if he/she doesn't see that it was removed on the patch notes. It's not an issue for Fizz or Leona, because their old reduction didn't stop it either.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8dAmlFKN,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-20T15:56:49.458+0000) > > Yep. There really shouldn't. You can disable chat if you're one of the people who are so psychologically vulnerable that they'd take those things seriously. But hey, Riot doesn't employ psychologists so they wouldn't know it's better to give players the tools to prevent the things that trigger those feelings than to punish people for them. > > YOU on the other hand, are just mad someone didn't get punished, which is fucked up. Should _you_ be punished for coming to the boards to complain that you aren't getting to see people suffer enough? Feelings? Psycology? Man we are talking about rules.. Humans emotions and morals are off the hook here....
> [{quoted}](name=ThyDelutionist,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8dAmlFKN,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-20T15:59:19.217+0000) > > Feelings? Psycology? Man we are talking about rules.. Humans emotions and morals are off the hook here.... Then change your name to the Delusionist. Because that's what you are. _Delusional_. Rules are meant to reflect morality, not enforce it. And as I see it, it's your job and/or the job of your parents to prevent you from playing games you can't handle. Whether that's because of blood and gore, sexual themes, or online interactions.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qAffoMlF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-20T06:05:42.511+0000) > > Quit complaining about champions getting balanced just because you like abusing when they're unfair. > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Kench wasn't balanced, he was gutted, deep-fried, and served up on a plate for Renekton. {{champion:223}} {{champion:58}}
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qAffoMlF,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-20T16:38:59.903+0000) > > Kench wasn't balanced, he was gutted, deep-fried, and served up on a plate for Renekton. {{champion:223}} {{champion:58}} No, he was balanced. He is _not_ supposed to be able to fight one on one. Neither is Taric. Neither is Janna. Neither is Lulu.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8dAmlFKN,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-20T15:42:36.863+0000) > > Are you going to do that because a stranger you will never meet in your entire life told you to? > > If so, you need a lot of help and should avoid any online interactions until you get it. Also with your logic there shouldnt be any report buttons.
> [{quoted}](name=ThyDelutionist,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8dAmlFKN,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-20T15:53:35.611+0000) > > Also with your logic there shouldnt be any report buttons. Yep. There really shouldn't. You can disable chat if you're one of the people who are so psychologically vulnerable that they'd take those things seriously. But hey, Riot doesn't employ psychologists so they wouldn't know it's better to give players the tools to prevent the things that trigger those feelings than to punish people for them. YOU on the other hand, are just mad someone didn't get punished, which is fucked up. Should _you_ be punished for coming to the boards to complain that you aren't getting to see people suffer enough?
: Have we all just accepted that Ezrael kelpto is fine
They hurt him pretty badly by changing how the gold generation on Klepto works. Ezreal doesn't often stay in range to do the extra auto needed, so he's getting less gold than before.
TakaDama (NA)
: Why was Fizz given a net nerf?
His old passive didn't reduce true damage either. NOTHING reduces true damage, even self-inflicted damage reduction like Gargoyle's Stoneplate's active. (which is why Cho was a monster before they changed how it scales the HP) They probably just forgot to write the ghosted part when they rewrote his passive. Because it still works perfectly fine. So that "nerf" you're complaining about doesn't actually exist. In the future, could you at least go through the effort of the literally one minute it takes to go into practice tool and check?
: Secondary role problem
That's just how it is. Until they realize it's not fair to do that, and remove the autofill function, the most likely outcome is either your support or ADC is autofilled. Since those are the two least popular roles.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8dAmlFKN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-20T15:38:36.797+0000) > > Maybe because this is a game and if you take insults from strangers you've never met, who have never met nor even seen your family, seriously, you aren't fit to be playing _any_ online games. > > Hence, it takes a bit more than one game to get punished for it. Because the "victims" either can't possibly be effected by it enough to stop playing, or need serious psychological help themselves if they are. So why someone that says kill yrself deserves it ? And not the abuser?
> [{quoted}](name=ThyDelutionist,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8dAmlFKN,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-20T15:39:28.264+0000) > > So why someone that says kill yrself deserves it ? And not the abuser? Are you going to do that because a stranger you will never meet in your entire life told you to? If so, you need a lot of help and should avoid any online interactions until you get it.
ßoro (NA)
: why does morde do so much damage
Adaptive Helm would go a long way to help against it. And the answer is: because he's a juggernaut. By design, they aren't supposed to be possible to 1v1 because of their stats. That's not really a reasonable class design for a PvP game, but Riot seems to think it is--- despite the fact any time one of them has been strong enough to be played in pros they've absolutely dominated.
: About bans
Maybe because this is a game and if you take insults from strangers you've never met, who have never met nor even seen your family, seriously, you aren't fit to be playing _any_ online games. Hence, it takes a bit more than one game to get punished for it. Because the "victims" either can't possibly be effected by it enough to stop playing, or need serious psychological help themselves if they are.
: A blob of hp is no threat to you. You are safe to ignore them, avoiding blobs of hp is ok You've replied to a straw man that you've made
> [{quoted}](name=BigBrainSuppMain,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EwHzEaRU,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-20T08:20:50.474+0000) > > A blob of hp is no threat to you. You are safe to ignore them, avoiding blobs of hp is ok > > You've replied to a straw man that you've made No, I replied to what you said. You won't look more "BgBrain" by using buzzwords you know where they don't actually apply. _Especially_ in the current meta, where tanks are very unpopular and healthier fighters/juggernauts are far more popular. They are the kind of high-HP champions you can't ignore.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=H317OMR5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-20T07:20:38.038+0000) > > That goes to show you haven't been playing for all that long. Not long, only since 2012.
> [{quoted}](name=Rainbow Slayer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=H317OMR5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-20T07:23:49.804+0000) > > Not long, only since 2012. Sorry if it wasn't clear, but it's obvious you haven't played _much_. If you think any of the suggestions are viable, and haven't already been shot down, then you're delusional.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=H317OMR5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-20T07:20:38.038+0000) > > That goes to show you haven't been playing for all that long. What a compelling fucking argument. I think it's hilarious how I get warnings for not creating "fruitful discussion" but 90% of the replies to 90% of the threads on the boards are just like yours. What sort of discussion are you promoting with your lazy post.
> [{quoted}](name=XenaPhobiaFTW,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=H317OMR5,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-20T07:26:20.277+0000) > > What a compelling fucking argument. I think it's hilarious how I get warnings for not creating "fruitful discussion" but 90% of the replies to 90% of the threads on the boards are just like yours. What sort of discussion are you promoting with your lazy post. Fine, since you can't seem to understand something if it isn't spelled out to you: Not a single one of your suggestions is original. They have all been though of and posted since season 2. If any of them were implemented, it has the potential to completely alienate a large chunk of the playerbase. Anyone who isn't new would know the that. They've made jungle changes nearly every season, aside from this one. An older player would know that. Items are specifically designed for the champions that build them. ADC's aren't _supposed_ to have assassin strength early on. Anyone who isn't new would know that. In this game, ADC's are designed and balanced specifically around the fact that Support is a _bottom lane_ role. This isn't HOTS. Anyone who isn't new would know that. Enforcing roles wouldn't prevent trolling. It would simply get us seeing more AP Twitch's. Anyone who isn't new would know that. You want a fruitful discussion, don't repost suggestions that you didn't bother checking up on before making the thread.
: Some Ideas I Believe Would Benefit League For The Future.
That goes to show you haven't been playing for all that long.
: Maokai is Underwhelming
If you don't know, he's suffering from an intentional-nerf rework because he spent several seasons at the very top due to his old, completely overpowered ultimate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8f-VqAcQo And even making the ult self-case didn't help much.
: Way to ruin Kench completely
Quit complaining about champions getting balanced just because you like abusing when they're unfair. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3wUoFlBT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-20T04:21:54.218+0000) > > First of all, belongs in Memes & Games. > > And if you're somehow serious: it'd be after they themselves get sued by Philip Pullman. I think this board has forgotten what a meme is. This is a joke, and not all jokes are memes. (Hell, not all memes are jokes!) I feel like general's a fine place for a little dry humor.
> [{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3wUoFlBT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-20T04:46:36.151+0000) > > I think this board has forgotten what a meme is. This is a joke, and not all jokes are memes. (Hell, not all memes are jokes!) I feel like general's a fine place for a little dry humor. No, the "and Games" part refers to all other jokes. It seems people use the boards without reading any of the guidelines. It's no wonder they aren't taken seriously. Nevermind the fact your joke was stupid, and the actual joke went right over your head.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Lsgk897A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-20T04:15:59.100+0000) > > I'm not sure you know what "balanced" means. > > Having even a few outliers makes something unbalanced. You can have a pound of gold on either side of a scale, but if you swap out a few of the coins on one side for ones that are twice as heavy, it'll tip. The game can never be perfectly balanced to be fair to him. So I think you have to judge how well Riot is doing, by being realistic about how balanced the game can possibly be, and then analyzing how close Riot is to reaching that imagined state.
Alright, so here's a thought experiment for you. What would an unbalanced game look like, while still actually being something you could consider a game?
Yenn (NA)
: I have a support main in top lane against a million mastery Darius main
: The biggest tip for teamfights
This isn't right at all. If you're the ADC, your job is to deal damage to whoever you can while staying safe. Focusing down priority targets is the job of your assassin, diver, or mage. And avoiding champions who are behind is exactly how they kill you and get back into the game.
: Rapidfire cannon prevents akali from ulting
No, that'd be the intended function. To help with champs missing their abilities, a lot of them won't use it if someone isn't in their range. If you make the mistake of putting an RFC on a champion with a shorter range ability, that's on you. Don't put it on Darius, either.
: So, when does Riot sue?
First of all, belongs in Memes & Games. And if you're somehow serious: it'd be after they themselves get sued by Philip Pullman.
Erykon (NA)
: morderkaiser ult bug against katarina
Sounds more like a viable counter than a bug. Do you mean she can't Shunpo _to him_, or that her daggers already on the ground disappear?
: More Skarner skins
If they fix his stupid-ass chin, maybe.
: TFT BUG (or HACKER?)
It's a known bug. Not everyone who beats you is a l33t h4xx0rs.
: Honestly, if you look at champion balance overall the game is incredibly balanced
I'm not sure you know what "balanced" means. Having even a few outliers makes something unbalanced. You can have a pound of gold on either side of a scale, but if you swap out a few of the coins on one side for ones that are twice as heavy, it'll tip.
: Twisted Fate and Evelynn should be a legit thing
https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Journal_of_Justice Here's where a lot of the old lore is. Talks about the origins of several skins, including their Tango skins.
: so? why cant they work with that? ai evolves to be sentient, the same could apply to a stuffed bear made real with magic =3 they even has his lore already written into annie's story. they can add a bit more to make tibbers into his own champion easily =3
> [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=7tv6AvRr,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T19:13:23.347+0000) > > so? why cant they work with that? ai evolves to be sentient, the same could apply to a stuffed bear made real with magic =3 they even has his lore already written into annie's story. they can add a bit more to make tibbers into his own champion easily =3 The only reason it turns into a bear is due to Annie's magic. Without her, it's a normal teddy bear.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O7NAXjBs,comment-id=000100010000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:28:31.564+0000) > > I just recommend you to read my message that is about why I think they are a thing together: > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/O7NAXjBs-aside-from-varus-as-lgtbq-representation-here-are-some-other-champions-that-could-serve?comment=0008000000000000 > > This should explain everything and that I don't ship them for nothing. Heck, I didn't even care about them before Burning Tides. And, like more original comment, just because two people are friends, comrades, work partners, etc. does not mean they're romantically involved.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O7NAXjBs,comment-id=00010001000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000008,timestamp=2019-07-19T21:42:14.303+0000) > > If I really assumed in that way, I would include Garen-Jarvan, Udyr-Lee Sin, Master Yi-Wukong, Jax-Gragas too, right? We already have brotherly love in LoL enough. It is your time to not assume every brotherly love looking pairings are platonic to each other. Meanwhile you're using the stereotype that all men who've been in prison _become_ gay. Nevermind the fact the whole point of their story together is that Twisted Fate _didn't spend any time in prison, but left Graves to take the fall._
: ahh ok i was more focused on the yi boots kinda thing sorry, i actually didnt know what you meant with the wolf thing (iv been gone awhile catching up on all sorts of content) so i thought it was another silly thing making fun of his idea. sorry. that does sound cool =3 but so does tibbers!
> [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=7tv6AvRr,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T18:41:44.258+0000) > > ahh ok i was more focused on the yi boots kinda thing sorry, i actually didnt know what you meant with the wolf thing (iv been gone awhile catching up on all sorts of content) so i thought it was another silly thing making fun of his idea. sorry. that does sound cool =3 but so does tibbers! It wouldn't fit with the new lore. It used to be that Annie captured a type of bear that exists in their universe. But now it's that Tibbers is only her stuffed bear.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KhvOWleA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-19T17:01:45.690+0000) > > The icon kinda shows your bias. > > The most important similarity between the champions is that they're all melee. It wouldn't be fair to give an ADC their own AoE lockdown. i doubt that that was meant seriously
> [{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KhvOWleA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T17:07:10.355+0000) > > i hardly doubt that that was meant seriously So you... don't doubt it? What are you _trying_ to say there?
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KhvOWleA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-19T17:01:45.690+0000) > > The icon kinda shows your bias. > > The most important similarity between the champions is that they're all melee. It wouldn't be fair to give an ADC their own AoE lockdown. I just don't see why Blitz or Renekton needs a shield break. Nor do I see why Kled needs GW. That was more the point on why I made this thread. Besides, it's not wholly unreasonable on MF because her E has a cost of 80 at all levels, only 20 behind her ultimate. And Make it Rain's cooldown is 18 (before CDR) until she finally has nothing else to put points into. Lowest it will get is 10 at rank 5 (6 seconds with 40% cdr) and that's only when she hits level 18. If you can help me understand why those champions needed those major buffs, that'd be great. Oh, and "Riot wants Top Down Call of Duty" isn't enough. Call of Duty didn't make a bunch of pistols suddenly have grievous wounds because they weren't effective enough.
Because they're not major buffs. They're buffs to strengthen them against champs they're already supposed to counter, but were still struggling against. Same with the Poppy and Cass buffs. It is wholly unreasonable to give her something in her own kit that completely removes the need to time and position your own ultimate properly. That'd be like making Ashe's, Ezreal's, or Jinx's ults the same range and damage, but also targeted.
: no cuz those wouldn't be nearly as cool =3 i love the tibbers champion idea! don't be so negative man. you sound like a really sour pussy there...
> [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=7tv6AvRr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T17:18:59.390+0000) > > no cuz those wouldn't be nearly as cool =3 i love the tibbers champion idea! don't be so negative man. you sound like a really sour pussy there... You don't think being an actual bird of prey instead of a half-assed magic bird would be cool? And I've made full concepts for Wolf _myself_. The one about Yi's boots was a joke.
: Since we're adding shield breaks and grievous wounds to simpler champions...
The icon kinda shows your bias. The most important similarity between the champions is that they're all melee. It wouldn't be fair to give an ADC their own AoE lockdown.
: Tibbers, the champ
So are we gonna mage Valor, Wolf, and... idk, Yi's sword-boots champions too?
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TI1eOcQ8,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-19T07:40:47.464+0000) > > A team wide damage reduction aura cannot be on an item. It was taken off of Maokai because he completely dominated with it. It was taken off Maokai because they reworked him. They wanted to give him a lane wide root and it would only fit as an ultimate ability.
They wanted to rework him because that ultimate was overpowered, not outdated. That was the only ability they changed much. It was the _reason_ they reworked him, not removed _because_ of the rework. They didn't want to give him the root and just decide it had to be an ult. They wanted to get rid of that ult and decided it would be the root.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EEYuvIWH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T06:54:44.137+0000) > > No. Old Aatrox was a balance nightmare. > > We have a version of the old Aatrox already. It's simply that a _balanced_ version of that kit _belongs_ in the jungle. You cannot make a version of that kit that's not either underpowered or overpowered and still have it be a top laner. The iteration right before his rework was pretty balanced. Both players basically had to play around bloodwell, and the one that did it better, basically won. And while he had an amazing early and mid game, he did fall off lategame, as he normally wouldn't be able to dps down a front line fast enough, or get to the back line and survive long enough to kill anyone
No, it was seeing win rates of 53-56% across the board. That time period is the _main_ example of his kit being "either underpowered _or overpowered_". And the average length of games overall has gone done, let alone the length of games in high ELO. Yeah, if the entire Aatrox team was doing poorly besides him, he would "fall off", but otherwise the game was won before that.
: Can we give tanks ONE good item?
A team wide damage reduction aura cannot be on an item. It was taken off of Maokai because he completely dominated with it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O7NAXjBs,comment-id=000100010000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:28:31.564+0000) > > I just recommend you to read my message that is about why I think they are a thing together: > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/O7NAXjBs-aside-from-varus-as-lgtbq-representation-here-are-some-other-champions-that-could-serve?comment=0008000000000000 > > This should explain everything and that I don't ship them for nothing. Heck, I didn't even care about them before Burning Tides. And, like more original comment, just because two people are friends, comrades, work partners, etc. does not mean they're romantically involved.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O7NAXjBs,comment-id=00010001000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000002,timestamp=2019-07-19T00:21:51.173+0000) > > You can be only that dull and blind. I literally gave you rioter messages, and you say they are in the same level of Jarvan and Garen? You are trolling right now. There is no way someone can be that in denial. > > I at least have arguments on why I think they are together. You give no fucking shit except saying "2 men can be close without romantic love." I don't even know why I am arguing with a bigot homophobe that doesn't even have arguments at all. > > Remember me when they confirm they are together. At this point, you can lose your mind, or quit the game. I don't care. The hate speech isn't necessary. And in fact, what the screenshot you provided says is only additional proof they _aren't_ gay. At best, it's the "any port in a storm" excuse. Unless you're so homophobic that you'd make the claim it's a _choice_ based on _circumstance_.
Yenn (NA)
: Can Akali's level 6 all in be given more counterplay for casters?
Stopwatch, Barrier, Exhaust. Don't bring ignite thinking you're gonna beat an assassin's level 6 all-in.
BigFBear (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=IjMucYOF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T17:09:09.596+0000) > > Seriously. At the very least, every single mob who doesn't drop an item should drop 1 gold. So if you get 0 items you would have 9 gold but the other guy 8 gold and 1 Item? Or 7 Gold and 2 items? That would change nothing xD Would be exactly the same like now.
> [{quoted}](name=BigFBear,realm=EUW,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=IjMucYOF,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-07-19T03:40:50.410+0000) > > So if you get 0 items you would have 9 gold > > but the other guy 8 gold and 1 Item? > Or 7 Gold and 2 items? > > That would change nothing xD > Would be exactly the same like now. No, yeah, I already responded to someone who said the same.
Barkley (NA)
: This has happened to me twice now
Hey, if they're gonna bullshit and give her her old ult in TFT while it remains the shitty single-target in the real game, I'm all for it also stunning your team.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O7NAXjBs,comment-id=000100010000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T19:28:31.564+0000) > > I just recommend you to read my message that is about why I think they are a thing together: > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/O7NAXjBs-aside-from-varus-as-lgtbq-representation-here-are-some-other-champions-that-could-serve?comment=0008000000000000 > > This should explain everything and that I don't ship them for nothing. Heck, I didn't even care about them before Burning Tides. And, like more original comment, just because two people are friends, comrades, work partners, etc. does not mean they're romantically involved.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=O7NAXjBs,comment-id=00010001000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:05:24.995+0000) > > Is that really what you got from the entire message? Have you even read? Because them being friends wasn't my reason at all. Otherwise, I would think the same for Jarvan and Garen. There's just as much _nothing_ hinting at them being lovers as there is between Garen and Jarvan. Like OP, you're reading between lines where there's only blank space.
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